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Stepper Question

ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2001-11-16 23:31 in General Discussion
I am trying to make a CNC mill (Small one) Using the basic stamp. I
am trying to use two stepper motors. I got a good program (i think).
But I need help with what tipe of all thread (a long bolt without a
head) I need. The steppers that I am using has a 1.8deg per step. And
I want the table to move .001" per step. Please help.

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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-11-16 01:31
    I'm kind of a novice stamper, but I've been machining for a while so
    lets see...

    360 degrees / 1.8 degrees per step = 200 steps per rotation.

    This means you want one rotation to go 200 thousandths of an inch, or
    1/5th of an inch. So, using a shaft with 5 threads per inch would
    get what you want.

    However, a 5 TPI (threads per inch) screw is way huge and probably
    won't give you enough mechanical advantage. My little Sherline mill
    uses a 20 TPI lead screw. I'd suggest you go with something standard
    and readily available, like a 1/4" 20 TPI (course thread) lead screw,
    or if you need it more beefy a 7/16" 20 TPI (fine thread). Since 20
    is easily divisible by 5, you won't have to worry about any floating
    point math with the stamp, and you'll get better accuracy.

    Stew

    On Fri, 16 Nov 2001 01:01:17 -0000, iamturbo2000@y... wrote:
    >I am trying to make a CNC mill (Small one) Using the basic stamp. I
    >am trying to use two stepper motors. I got a good program (i think).
    >But I need help with what tipe of all thread (a long bolt without a
    >head) I need. The steppers that I am using has a 1.8deg per step.
    >And
    >I want the table to move .001" per step. Please help.
    >
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    --
    Stewart Mayer, stewlist@k... on 11/15/2001
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-11-16 02:08
    AirPax makes steppers with a 12" threaded lead screw through the center.
    They are sometimes sold in the surplus outlets like Mouser.

    Dennis
    Original Message
    From: <iamturbo2000@y...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 5:01 PM
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Stepper Question


    > I am trying to make a CNC mill (Small one) Using the basic stamp. I
    > am trying to use two stepper motors. I got a good program (i think).
    > But I need help with what tipe of all thread (a long bolt without a
    > head) I need. The steppers that I am using has a 1.8deg per step. And
    > I want the table to move .001" per step. Please help.
    >
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-11-16 02:59
    Well, it needs to be acme thread -- standard V-thread does not work well for
    this kind of stuff.

    As far as the thread pitch, your stepper motor apparently makes 200 steps
    per rotation, which means you need a lead screw with 5 threads-per-inch.

    360 degrees / 1.8 degrees = 200 steps per rotation

    0.001 per step x 200 steps = 0.20" per rotation

    1" / 0.20" = 5 TPI


    Might want to check out the Heavy Iron articles in the last 4 or so Nuts &
    Volts issues -- a guy is using an X-Y table to make a mill.

    Original Message

    > I am trying to make a CNC mill (Small one) Using the basic stamp. I
    > am trying to use two stepper motors. I got a good program (i think).
    > But I need help with what tipe of all thread (a long bolt without a
    > head) I need. The steppers that I am using has a 1.8deg per step. And
    > I want the table to move .001" per step. Please help.
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-11-16 03:04
    DOH! Didn't see you had already replied. At least we checked each other's
    math!

    I'm too lazy to go in the garage and check, but I think most smaller lathes
    and mills typically move 0.050 per turn of the crank on the cross / compound
    / longitudinal feed. (Unless its a weird Chinese / Indian / Pakistani made
    product, and then its something weird like 0.062" per turn.

    Original Message

    > I'm kind of a novice stamper, but I've been machining for a while so
    > lets see...
    >
    > 360 degrees / 1.8 degrees per step = 200 steps per rotation.
    >
    > This means you want one rotation to go 200 thousandths of an inch, or
    > 1/5th of an inch. So, using a shaft with 5 threads per inch would
    > get what you want.
    >
    > However, a 5 TPI (threads per inch) screw is way huge and probably
    > won't give you enough mechanical advantage. My little Sherline mill
    > uses a 20 TPI lead screw. I'd suggest you go with something standard
    > and readily available, like a 1/4" 20 TPI (course thread) lead screw,
    > or if you need it more beefy a 7/16" 20 TPI (fine thread). Since 20
    > is easily divisible by 5, you won't have to worry about any floating
    > point math with the stamp, and you'll get better accuracy.

    > >I am trying to make a CNC mill (Small one) Using the basic stamp. I
    > >am trying to use two stepper motors. I got a good program (i think).
    > >But I need help with what tipe of all thread (a long bolt without a
    > >head) I need. The steppers that I am using has a 1.8deg per step.
    > >And
    > >I want the table to move .001" per step. Please help.
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-11-16 05:53
    Theres a company called Sterling Instruments that has everything under
    the sun when it comes to the kind of parts your looking for. Including
    lead screws from 1/4x20 to 1x10
    Also leadscrew Supernuts

    On Fri, 16 Nov 2001 01:01:17 -0000 iamturbo2000@y... writes:
    > I am trying to make a CNC mill (Small one) Using the basic stamp. I
    > am trying to use two stepper motors. I got a good program (i think).
    >
    > But I need help with what tipe of all thread (a long bolt without a
    > head) I need. The steppers that I am using has a 1.8deg per step.
    > And
    > I want the table to move .001" per step. Please help.
    >
    >
    > To UNSUBSCRIBE, just send mail to:
    > basicstamps-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
    > from the same email address that you subscribed. Text in the
    > Subject and Body of the message will be ignored.
    >
    >
    > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
    > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
    >
    >
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-11-16 07:42

    Original Message
    From: "Rodent" <daweasel@s...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 4:04 AM
    Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Stepper Question


    > (Unless its a weird Chinese / Indian / Pakistani made
    > product, and then its something weird like 0.062" per turn.

    It is not weird at all, it is metric, used by all the world
    except US.
    Regards
    ECO
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-11-16 23:31
    It is when the manual says its 0.0625 per turn and the wheel is marked 0.062
    or 0.063 (or 0.064) -- God bless dial indicators.

    We do use metric here though -- most US-made cars are half and half. My
    wife's Nissan (Mercury) van has SAE bleeders on the front brakes and metric
    on the rear.

    Original Message

    > > (Unless its a weird Chinese / Indian / Pakistani made
    > > product, and then its something weird like 0.062" per turn.
    >
    > It is not weird at all, it is metric, used by all the world
    > except US.
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