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ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2001-09-28 00:35 in General Discussion
Please help,
I have a speed queen washing machine that died. The
machine is computer controlled and the processor
intermittently locks up and the replacement board is
$262.00!!! So what does a stamp programmer do? Build a
new controller and program it with a stamp, and that's
exactly what I did. However, I don't understand
something about the operation of the motor. In one
direction(ccw) the motor causes agitation to happen
and the pump to recirculate water, in the other
direction(cw) the drum spins and the pump drains the
tank out. The problem is that I can't get the pump to
drain without causing the tank to spin. When the
machine is loaded with cloths, you should be able to
drain off the water before spinning the load. The
motor is controlled by two relays,(I am using the
original high level driver board) one supplies the
main winding and the other is a double pole double
throw type that causes the motor direction to change.
It may be that these relays need to be energized in a
certain sequence or delay time. If anyone has any info
about the motor or machine operation I would greatly
appreciate it.
Scott

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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-09-23 04:14
    From what little I have watched a washing machine in action, it seems
    that the spin and drain go together. The centrifugal action forces the
    water out of the clothes. Would love to see your code when done. This
    sounds like a real neat application for a stamp.

    Leroy HAll

    Scott Sutton wrote:
    >
    > Please help,
    > I have a speed queen washing machine that died. The
    > machine is computer controlled and the processor
    > intermittently locks up and the replacement board is
    > $262.00!!! So what does a stamp programmer do? Build a
    > new controller and program it with a stamp, and that's
    > exactly what I did. However, I don't understand
    > something about the operation of the motor. In one
    > direction(ccw) the motor causes agitation to happen
    > and the pump to recirculate water, in the other
    > direction(cw) the drum spins and the pump drains the
    > tank out. The problem is that I can't get the pump to
    > drain without causing the tank to spin. When the
    > machine is loaded with cloths, you should be able to
    > drain off the water before spinning the load. The
    > motor is controlled by two relays,(I am using the
    > original high level driver board) one supplies the
    > main winding and the other is a double pole double
    > throw type that causes the motor direction to change.
    > It may be that these relays need to be energized in a
    > certain sequence or delay time. If anyone has any info
    > about the motor or machine operation I would greatly
    > appreciate it.
    > Scott
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-09-23 07:06
    I was thinking on most washing machines there was a wig-wag solenoid that
    shifted the transmission from agitate to pump. On the Sears washers the look
    like two solenoid coils next to each other on one assembly.


    Original Message

    > I have a speed queen washing machine that died. The
    > machine is computer controlled and the processor
    > intermittently locks up and the replacement board is
    > $262.00!!! So what does a stamp programmer do? Build a
    > new controller and program it with a stamp, and that's
    > exactly what I did. However, I don't understand
    > something about the operation of the motor. In one
    > direction(ccw) the motor causes agitation to happen
    > and the pump to recirculate water, in the other
    > direction(cw) the drum spins and the pump drains the
    > tank out. The problem is that I can't get the pump to
    > drain without causing the tank to spin. When the
    > machine is loaded with cloths, you should be able to
    > drain off the water before spinning the load. The
    > motor is controlled by two relays,(I am using the
    > original high level driver board) one supplies the
    > main winding and the other is a double pole double
    > throw type that causes the motor direction to change.
    > It may be that these relays need to be energized in a
    > certain sequence or delay time. If anyone has any info
    > about the motor or machine operation I would greatly
    > appreciate it.
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-09-23 10:40

    Original Message
    From: "Leroy Hall" <leroy@f...>

    Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] washing machine


    > >From what little I have watched a washing machine in action, it seems
    > that the spin and drain go together. The centrifugal action forces the
    > water out of the clothes. Would love to see your code when done. This
    > sounds like a real neat application for a stamp.

    Yes, and this is an application that our wives will appreciate !
    (finally...) :-)
    I don't know if I'm the only one in this situation, but my wife always say
    that I'm 'playing' when I work on my central heating control project...

    Phil.
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-09-23 18:15
    Do you have a stamp on your heating system too ??? What kind of tasks
    does it do? I have some of the clock chips if you need one. 6355 I
    think is the number. They are serial..


    Leroy

    Philippe Derenne wrote:
    >
    >
    Original Message
    > From: "Leroy Hall" <leroy@f...>
    >
    > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] washing machine
    >
    > > >From what little I have watched a washing machine in action, it seems
    > > that the spin and drain go together. The centrifugal action forces the
    > > water out of the clothes. Would love to see your code when done. This
    > > sounds like a real neat application for a stamp.
    >
    > Yes, and this is an application that our wives will appreciate !
    > (finally...) :-)
    > I don't know if I'm the only one in this situation, but my wife always say
    > that I'm 'playing' when I work on my central heating control project...
    >
    > Phil.
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-09-24 01:11
    Hi Scott,

    Some of the machines trigger the spin after pumpout mechanically I
    think. The late model Sears (Whirlpool) I have will pump, then stop
    briefly and some mechanism latches. When the motor reenergizes it spins
    and pumps.

    Don

    Scott Sutton wrote:
    >
    > Please help,
    > I have a speed queen washing machine that died. The
    > machine is computer controlled and the processor
    > intermittently locks up and the replacement board is
    > $262.00!!! So what does a stamp programmer do? Build a
    > new controller and program it with a stamp, and that's
    > exactly what I did. However, I don't understand
    > something about the operation of the motor. In one
    > direction(ccw) the motor causes agitation to happen
    > and the pump to recirculate water, in the other
    > direction(cw) the drum spins and the pump drains the
    > tank out. The problem is that I can't get the pump to
    > drain without causing the tank to spin. When the
    > machine is loaded with cloths, you should be able to
    > drain off the water before spinning the load. The
    > motor is controlled by two relays,(I am using the
    > original high level driver board) one supplies the
    > main winding and the other is a double pole double
    > throw type that causes the motor direction to change.
    > It may be that these relays need to be energized in a
    > certain sequence or delay time. If anyone has any info
    > about the motor or machine operation I would greatly
    > appreciate it.
    > Scott
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-09-24 01:13
    Ooops forgot to mention. On my machine if I interrupt the pumpout by
    raising the lid I hear the latch engage as the motor slows. When I
    close the lid it spins and pumps. So your machine may not have an
    electrical method of engaging the spin. It may be mechanical.

    Don


    Scott Sutton wrote:
    >
    > Please help,
    > I have a speed queen washing machine that died. The
    > machine is computer controlled and the processor
    > intermittently locks up and the replacement board is
    > $262.00!!! So what does a stamp programmer do? Build a
    > new controller and program it with a stamp, and that's
    > exactly what I did. However, I don't understand
    > something about the operation of the motor. In one
    > direction(ccw) the motor causes agitation to happen
    > and the pump to recirculate water, in the other
    > direction(cw) the drum spins and the pump drains the
    > tank out. The problem is that I can't get the pump to
    > drain without causing the tank to spin. When the
    > machine is loaded with cloths, you should be able to
    > drain off the water before spinning the load. The
    > motor is controlled by two relays,(I am using the
    > original high level driver board) one supplies the
    > main winding and the other is a double pole double
    > throw type that causes the motor direction to change.
    > It may be that these relays need to be energized in a
    > certain sequence or delay time. If anyone has any info
    > about the motor or machine operation I would greatly
    > appreciate it.
    > Scott
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-09-24 14:10
    Thanks for all the help!
    As it turns out, the speed queen set-up uses a spring
    loaded idler that supplies that tranny with power for
    the spin cyle. The idler disengages the belt to the
    drum when the drum is loaded (water and clothes) but
    the pump continues to run at full speed, when the drum
    empties the water the drum becomes lighter and the
    idler gradually engages the belt for the spin mode. By
    the way, a bs2 comtrolled washing machine is
    great!!And the wife finally appreciates one of my
    projects>
    Scott Sutton
    --- Don Denhardt <dondenhardt@y...> wrote:
    > Hi Scott,
    >
    > Some of the machines trigger the spin after pumpout
    > mechanically I
    > think. The late model Sears (Whirlpool) I have will
    > pump, then stop
    > briefly and some mechanism latches. When the motor
    > reenergizes it spins
    > and pumps.
    >
    > Don
    >
    > Scott Sutton wrote:
    > >
    > > Please help,
    > > I have a speed queen washing machine that died.
    > The
    > > machine is computer controlled and the processor
    > > intermittently locks up and the replacement board
    > is
    > > $262.00!!! So what does a stamp programmer do?
    > Build a
    > > new controller and program it with a stamp, and
    > that's
    > > exactly what I did. However, I don't understand
    > > something about the operation of the motor. In one
    > > direction(ccw) the motor causes agitation to
    > happen
    > > and the pump to recirculate water, in the other
    > > direction(cw) the drum spins and the pump drains
    > the
    > > tank out. The problem is that I can't get the pump
    > to
    > > drain without causing the tank to spin. When the
    > > machine is loaded with cloths, you should be able
    > to
    > > drain off the water before spinning the load. The
    > > motor is controlled by two relays,(I am using the
    > > original high level driver board) one supplies the
    > > main winding and the other is a double pole double
    > > throw type that causes the motor direction to
    > change.
    > > It may be that these relays need to be energized
    > in a
    > > certain sequence or delay time. If anyone has any
    > info
    > > about the motor or machine operation I would
    > greatly
    > > appreciate it.
    > > Scott
    > >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-09-24 22:10
    Hi Leroy,

    Well, Im currently working on this system.
    The stamp is controlling 2 pumps (one for each floor), and the fuel burner.
    I use 3 DS1620 to get the room temperature, outside temperature, and the
    water temperature.
    So I can control the water temperature (if the weather is colder, I set the
    water temperature higher). Also, as I'm working on differents shifts, I need
    heating at different moments. It's very simple to program that (plus
    summer/winter mode, holidays...). The system has a LCD and a 6-key keyboard.
    I begin to make some tests with the DS1302 (Dallas Semiconductors). I think
    it's a nice chip, with real-time clock, 31 bytes of RAM, 3-wire interface,
    and it may be backuped by a super-cap. And it's cheap (about 3$ in
    Belgium...)

    Phil.

    Original Message
    From: "Leroy Hall" <leroy@f...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2001 7:15 PM
    Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] washing machine


    > Do you have a stamp on your heating system too ??? What kind of tasks
    > does it do? I have some of the clock chips if you need one. 6355 I
    > think is the number. They are serial..
    >
    >
    > Leroy
    >
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-09-25 05:44
    Hey if you want really white whites try this for cycling
    1. Prewash tepid water (not warm-not cold) (20 minutes)
    Use thermistor to monitor temps using RCTIME
    Engage hot or cold as needed
    2. Spinout
    3. Pause (add soap and bleach)
    4. Hot water wash (20 minutes)
    5. Double rinse

    Boy you could really have fun with that project using LCD. Use KISS
    concepts to avoid having wife get confused. Would be really slick if
    you could do custom cycles by menu selection for custom washes and
    retain some standard cycles also. 'Course that will keep you
    programming for a few months. I can picture wife tapping toes wondering
    if she'll ever get to use the machine again. AND, if so, if it will
    take a doctorate degree in engineering to figure out how to work it.

    Have fun

    Don

    Scott Sutton wrote:
    >
    > Thanks for all the help!
    > As it turns out, the speed queen set-up uses a spring
    > loaded idler that supplies that tranny with power for
    > the spin cyle. The idler disengages the belt to the
    > drum when the drum is loaded (water and clothes) but
    > the pump continues to run at full speed, when the drum
    > empties the water the drum becomes lighter and the
    > idler gradually engages the belt for the spin mode. By
    > the way, a bs2 comtrolled washing machine is
    > great!!And the wife finally appreciates one of my
    > projects>
    > Scott Sutton
    > --- Don Denhardt <dondenhardt@y...> wrote:
    > > Hi Scott,
    > >
    > > Some of the machines trigger the spin after pumpout
    > > mechanically I
    > > think. The late model Sears (Whirlpool) I have will
    > > pump, then stop
    > > briefly and some mechanism latches. When the motor
    > > reenergizes it spins
    > > and pumps.
    > >
    > > Don
    > >
    > > Scott Sutton wrote:
    > > >
    > > > Please help,
    > > > I have a speed queen washing machine that died.
    > > The
    > > > machine is computer controlled and the processor
    > > > intermittently locks up and the replacement board
    > > is
    > > > $262.00!!! So what does a stamp programmer do?
    > > Build a
    > > > new controller and program it with a stamp, and
    > > that's
    > > > exactly what I did. However, I don't understand
    > > > something about the operation of the motor. In one
    > > > direction(ccw) the motor causes agitation to
    > > happen
    > > > and the pump to recirculate water, in the other
    > > > direction(cw) the drum spins and the pump drains
    > > the
    > > > tank out. The problem is that I can't get the pump
    > > to
    > > > drain without causing the tank to spin. When the
    > > > machine is loaded with cloths, you should be able
    > > to
    > > > drain off the water before spinning the load. The
    > > > motor is controlled by two relays,(I am using the
    > > > original high level driver board) one supplies the
    > > > main winding and the other is a double pole double
    > > > throw type that causes the motor direction to
    > > change.
    > > > It may be that these relays need to be energized
    > > in a
    > > > certain sequence or delay time. If anyone has any
    > > info
    > > > about the motor or machine operation I would
    > > greatly
    > > > appreciate it.
    > > > Scott
    > > >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-09-26 19:19
    I already told my wife about this post. She's loving the idea of
    totally customizing the appliances. She's been sending me things she
    wants in the code. Settable extended soak, pause and chime after
    rinse (to remind her to add the fabric softener), auto re-rinse if
    the clothes sat in the washer overnight. She wants to customize the
    dryer too, with a short cool tumble every 20mins after it stopped
    drying (to prevent wrinkles) in case she forgets to take the clothes
    out right away.

    It looks like I'll be doing this for my next project. Thanks for the
    ideas.




    --- In basicstamps@y..., Don Denhardt <dondenhardt@y...> wrote:
    > Hey if you want really white whites try this for cycling
    > 1. Prewash tepid water (not warm-not cold) (20 minutes)
    > Use thermistor to monitor temps using RCTIME
    > Engage hot or cold as needed
    > 2. Spinout
    > 3. Pause (add soap and bleach)
    > 4. Hot water wash (20 minutes)
    > 5. Double rinse
    >
    > Boy you could really have fun with that project using LCD. Use KISS
    > concepts to avoid having wife get confused. Would be really slick
    if
    > you could do custom cycles by menu selection for custom washes and
    > retain some standard cycles also. 'Course that will keep you
    > programming for a few months. I can picture wife tapping toes
    wondering
    > if she'll ever get to use the machine again. AND, if so, if it will
    > take a doctorate degree in engineering to figure out how to work it.
    >
    > Have fun
    >
    > Don
    >
    > Scott Sutton wrote:
    > >
    > > Thanks for all the help!
    > > As it turns out, the speed queen set-up uses a spring
    > > loaded idler that supplies that tranny with power for
    > > the spin cyle. The idler disengages the belt to the
    > > drum when the drum is loaded (water and clothes) but
    > > the pump continues to run at full speed, when the drum
    > > empties the water the drum becomes lighter and the
    > > idler gradually engages the belt for the spin mode. By
    > > the way, a bs2 comtrolled washing machine is
    > > great!!And the wife finally appreciates one of my
    > > projects>
    > > Scott Sutton
    > > --- Don Denhardt <dondenhardt@y...> wrote:
    > > > Hi Scott,
    > > >
    > > > Some of the machines trigger the spin after pumpout
    > > > mechanically I
    > > > think. The late model Sears (Whirlpool) I have will
    > > > pump, then stop
    > > > briefly and some mechanism latches. When the motor
    > > > reenergizes it spins
    > > > and pumps.
    > > >
    > > > Don
    > > >
    > > > Scott Sutton wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > > Please help,
    > > > > I have a speed queen washing machine that died.
    > > > The
    > > > > machine is computer controlled and the processor
    > > > > intermittently locks up and the replacement board
    > > > is
    > > > > $262.00!!! So what does a stamp programmer do?
    > > > Build a
    > > > > new controller and program it with a stamp, and
    > > > that's
    > > > > exactly what I did. However, I don't understand
    > > > > something about the operation of the motor. In one
    > > > > direction(ccw) the motor causes agitation to
    > > > happen
    > > > > and the pump to recirculate water, in the other
    > > > > direction(cw) the drum spins and the pump drains
    > > > the
    > > > > tank out. The problem is that I can't get the pump
    > > > to
    > > > > drain without causing the tank to spin. When the
    > > > > machine is loaded with cloths, you should be able
    > > > to
    > > > > drain off the water before spinning the load. The
    > > > > motor is controlled by two relays,(I am using the
    > > > > original high level driver board) one supplies the
    > > > > main winding and the other is a double pole double
    > > > > throw type that causes the motor direction to
    > > > change.
    > > > > It may be that these relays need to be energized
    > > > in a
    > > > > certain sequence or delay time. If anyone has any
    > > > info
    > > > > about the motor or machine operation I would
    > > > greatly
    > > > > appreciate it.
    > > > > Scott
    > > > >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-09-26 20:01
    You should write up a detailed project notes in case anyone else has a
    problem similar.

    -Rich

    On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Scott Sutton wrote:

    > Thanks for all the help!
    > As it turns out, the speed queen set-up uses a spring
    > loaded idler that supplies that tranny with power for
    > the spin cyle. The idler disengages the belt to the
    > drum when the drum is loaded (water and clothes) but
    > the pump continues to run at full speed, when the drum
    > empties the water the drum becomes lighter and the
    > idler gradually engages the belt for the spin mode. By
    > the way, a bs2 comtrolled washing machine is
    > great!!And the wife finally appreciates one of my
    > projects>
    > Scott Sutton
    > --- Don Denhardt <dondenhardt@y...> wrote:
    > > Hi Scott,
    > >
    > > Some of the machines trigger the spin after pumpout
    > > mechanically I
    > > think. The late model Sears (Whirlpool) I have will
    > > pump, then stop
    > > briefly and some mechanism latches. When the motor
    > > reenergizes it spins
    > > and pumps.
    > >
    > > Don
    > >
    > > Scott Sutton wrote:
    > > >
    > > > Please help,
    > > > I have a speed queen washing machine that died.
    > > The
    > > > machine is computer controlled and the processor
    > > > intermittently locks up and the replacement board
    > > is
    > > > $262.00!!! So what does a stamp programmer do?
    > > Build a
    > > > new controller and program it with a stamp, and
    > > that's
    > > > exactly what I did. However, I don't understand
    > > > something about the operation of the motor. In one
    > > > direction(ccw) the motor causes agitation to
    > > happen
    > > > and the pump to recirculate water, in the other
    > > > direction(cw) the drum spins and the pump drains
    > > the
    > > > tank out. The problem is that I can't get the pump
    > > to
    > > > drain without causing the tank to spin. When the
    > > > machine is loaded with cloths, you should be able
    > > to
    > > > drain off the water before spinning the load. The
    > > > motor is controlled by two relays,(I am using the
    > > > original high level driver board) one supplies the
    > > > main winding and the other is a double pole double
    > > > throw type that causes the motor direction to
    > > change.
    > > > It may be that these relays need to be energized
    > > in a
    > > > certain sequence or delay time. If anyone has any
    > > info
    > > > about the motor or machine operation I would
    > > greatly
    > > > appreciate it.
    > > > Scott
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-09-26 21:22
    Hey you guys forgot about one of the best features!!

    How about having a automotive windshield washer pump inject the soap???

    When you bring home liquid soap you could just set it on the floor and
    drop the suction tube in it. The stamp could inject different amounts
    depending on,

    A. Water Level
    B. User defined grade of soiling
    Light
    Medium
    Heavy


    I don't know if those little plastic pumps could handle bleach. But it
    might be worth a try. They are only $10-$15.

    Probably the easiest reminder for wife to do clothes is to have the
    Stamp automatically hang up the phone for her [noparse]:)[/noparse]



    timevex@o... wrote:
    >
    > I already told my wife about this post. She's loving the idea of
    > totally customizing the appliances. She's been sending me things she
    > wants in the code. Settable extended soak, pause and chime after
    > rinse (to remind her to add the fabric softener), auto re-rinse if
    > the clothes sat in the washer overnight. She wants to customize the
    > dryer too, with a short cool tumble every 20mins after it stopped
    > drying (to prevent wrinkles) in case she forgets to take the clothes
    > out right away.
    >
    > It looks like I'll be doing this for my next project. Thanks for the
    > ideas.
    >
    > --- In basicstamps@y..., Don Denhardt <dondenhardt@y...> wrote:
    > > Hey if you want really white whites try this for cycling
    > > 1. Prewash tepid water (not warm-not cold) (20 minutes)
    > > Use thermistor to monitor temps using RCTIME
    > > Engage hot or cold as needed
    > > 2. Spinout
    > > 3. Pause (add soap and bleach)
    > > 4. Hot water wash (20 minutes)
    > > 5. Double rinse
    > >
    > > Boy you could really have fun with that project using LCD. Use KISS
    > > concepts to avoid having wife get confused. Would be really slick
    > if
    > > you could do custom cycles by menu selection for custom washes and
    > > retain some standard cycles also. 'Course that will keep you
    > > programming for a few months. I can picture wife tapping toes
    > wondering
    > > if she'll ever get to use the machine again. AND, if so, if it will
    > > take a doctorate degree in engineering to figure out how to work it.
    > >
    > > Have fun
    > >
    > > Don
    > >
    > > Scott Sutton wrote:
    > > >
    > > > Thanks for all the help!
    > > > As it turns out, the speed queen set-up uses a spring
    > > > loaded idler that supplies that tranny with power for
    > > > the spin cyle. The idler disengages the belt to the
    > > > drum when the drum is loaded (water and clothes) but
    > > > the pump continues to run at full speed, when the drum
    > > > empties the water the drum becomes lighter and the
    > > > idler gradually engages the belt for the spin mode. By
    > > > the way, a bs2 comtrolled washing machine is
    > > > great!!And the wife finally appreciates one of my
    > > > projects>
    > > > Scott Sutton
    > > > --- Don Denhardt <dondenhardt@y...> wrote:
    > > > > Hi Scott,
    > > > >
    > > > > Some of the machines trigger the spin after pumpout
    > > > > mechanically I
    > > > > think. The late model Sears (Whirlpool) I have will
    > > > > pump, then stop
    > > > > briefly and some mechanism latches. When the motor
    > > > > reenergizes it spins
    > > > > and pumps.
    > > > >
    > > > > Don
    > > > >
    > > > > Scott Sutton wrote:
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Please help,
    > > > > > I have a speed queen washing machine that died.
    > > > > The
    > > > > > machine is computer controlled and the processor
    > > > > > intermittently locks up and the replacement board
    > > > > is
    > > > > > $262.00!!! So what does a stamp programmer do?
    > > > > Build a
    > > > > > new controller and program it with a stamp, and
    > > > > that's
    > > > > > exactly what I did. However, I don't understand
    > > > > > something about the operation of the motor. In one
    > > > > > direction(ccw) the motor causes agitation to
    > > > > happen
    > > > > > and the pump to recirculate water, in the other
    > > > > > direction(cw) the drum spins and the pump drains
    > > > > the
    > > > > > tank out. The problem is that I can't get the pump
    > > > > to
    > > > > > drain without causing the tank to spin. When the
    > > > > > machine is loaded with cloths, you should be able
    > > > > to
    > > > > > drain off the water before spinning the load. The
    > > > > > motor is controlled by two relays,(I am using the
    > > > > > original high level driver board) one supplies the
    > > > > > main winding and the other is a double pole double
    > > > > > throw type that causes the motor direction to
    > > > > change.
    > > > > > It may be that these relays need to be energized
    > > > > in a
    > > > > > certain sequence or delay time. If anyone has any
    > > > > info
    > > > > > about the motor or machine operation I would
    > > > > greatly
    > > > > > appreciate it.
    > > > > > Scott
    > > > > >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-09-26 22:01
    It might not be a good idea to use "liquid soap" in your washing machine,
    unless it is of a special type for this appliance. You risk producing too
    much foam!!!

    Good luck, it's nice to hear that computing can keep a wife happy and
    enthusiastic on your programming activity!

    Jose Luis

    At 13:22 26/09/2001 -0700, you wrote:

    >Hey you guys forgot about one of the best features!!
    >
    >How about having a automotive windshield washer pump inject the soap???
    >
    >When you bring home liquid soap you could just set it on the floor and
    >drop the suction tube in it. The stamp could inject different amounts
    >depending on,
    >
    >A. Water Level
    >B. User defined grade of soiling
    > Light
    > Medium
    > Heavy
    >
    >
    >I don't know if those little plastic pumps could handle bleach. But it
    >might be worth a try. They are only $10-$15.
    >
    >Probably the easiest reminder for wife to do clothes is to have the
    >Stamp automatically hang up the phone for her [noparse]:)[/noparse]
    >
    >
    >
    >timevex@o... wrote:
    > >
    > > I already told my wife about this post. She's loving the idea of
    > > totally customizing the appliances. She's been sending me things she
    > > wants in the code. Settable extended soak, pause and chime after
    > > rinse (to remind her to add the fabric softener), auto re-rinse if
    > > the clothes sat in the washer overnight. She wants to customize the
    > > dryer too, with a short cool tumble every 20mins after it stopped
    > > drying (to prevent wrinkles) in case she forgets to take the clothes
    > > out right away.
    > >
    > > It looks like I'll be doing this for my next project. Thanks for the
    > > ideas.
    > >
    > > --- In basicstamps@y..., Don Denhardt <dondenhardt@y...> wrote:
    > > > Hey if you want really white whites try this for cycling
    > > > 1. Prewash tepid water (not warm-not cold) (20 minutes)
    > > > Use thermistor to monitor temps using RCTIME
    > > > Engage hot or cold as needed
    > > > 2. Spinout
    > > > 3. Pause (add soap and bleach)
    > > > 4. Hot water wash (20 minutes)
    > > > 5. Double rinse
    > > >
    > > > Boy you could really have fun with that project using LCD. Use KISS
    > > > concepts to avoid having wife get confused. Would be really slick
    > > if
    > > > you could do custom cycles by menu selection for custom washes and
    > > > retain some standard cycles also. 'Course that will keep you
    > > > programming for a few months. I can picture wife tapping toes
    > > wondering
    > > > if she'll ever get to use the machine again. AND, if so, if it will
    > > > take a doctorate degree in engineering to figure out how to work it.
    > > >
    > > > Have fun
    > > >
    > > > Don
    > > >
    > > > Scott Sutton wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > > Thanks for all the help!
    > > > > As it turns out, the speed queen set-up uses a spring
    > > > > loaded idler that supplies that tranny with power for
    > > > > the spin cyle. The idler disengages the belt to the
    > > > > drum when the drum is loaded (water and clothes) but
    > > > > the pump continues to run at full speed, when the drum
    > > > > empties the water the drum becomes lighter and the
    > > > > idler gradually engages the belt for the spin mode. By
    > > > > the way, a bs2 comtrolled washing machine is
    > > > > great!!And the wife finally appreciates one of my
    > > > > projects>
    > > > > Scott Sutton
    > > > > --- Don Denhardt <dondenhardt@y...> wrote:
    > > > > > Hi Scott,
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Some of the machines trigger the spin after pumpout
    > > > > > mechanically I
    > > > > > think. The late model Sears (Whirlpool) I have will
    > > > > > pump, then stop
    > > > > > briefly and some mechanism latches. When the motor
    > > > > > reenergizes it spins
    > > > > > and pumps.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Don
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Scott Sutton wrote:
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > Please help,
    > > > > > > I have a speed queen washing machine that died.
    > > > > > The
    > > > > > > machine is computer controlled and the processor
    > > > > > > intermittently locks up and the replacement board
    > > > > > is
    > > > > > > $262.00!!! So what does a stamp programmer do?
    > > > > > Build a
    > > > > > > new controller and program it with a stamp, and
    > > > > > that's
    > > > > > > exactly what I did. However, I don't understand
    > > > > > > something about the operation of the motor. In one
    > > > > > > direction(ccw) the motor causes agitation to
    > > > > > happen
    > > > > > > and the pump to recirculate water, in the other
    > > > > > > direction(cw) the drum spins and the pump drains
    > > > > > the
    > > > > > > tank out. The problem is that I can't get the pump
    > > > > > to
    > > > > > > drain without causing the tank to spin. When the
    > > > > > > machine is loaded with cloths, you should be able
    > > > > > to
    > > > > > > drain off the water before spinning the load. The
    > > > > > > motor is controlled by two relays,(I am using the
    > > > > > > original high level driver board) one supplies the
    > > > > > > main winding and the other is a double pole double
    > > > > > > throw type that causes the motor direction to
    > > > > > change.
    > > > > > > It may be that these relays need to be energized
    > > > > > in a
    > > > > > > certain sequence or delay time. If anyone has any
    > > > > > info
    > > > > > > about the motor or machine operation I would
    > > > > > greatly
    > > > > > > appreciate it.
    > > > > > > Scott
    > > > > > >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-09-27 13:26
    From: Hughes <rihughes@s...>

    >You should write up a detailed project notes in case anyone else has a
    >problem similar.
    >
    >-Rich
    >
    >On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Scott Sutton wrote:
    >
    >> Thanks for all the help!

    Agreed, it would make a good candidate for the LOSA archive :-)

    Cheers
    --
    Regards,

    Derryck Croker
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-09-27 21:28
    MAke it a network device. Have it order more soap when it runs low.

    -Rich

    On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, Don Denhardt wrote:

    >
    > Hey you guys forgot about one of the best features!!
    >
    > How about having a automotive windshield washer pump inject the soap???
    >
    > When you bring home liquid soap you could just set it on the floor and
    > drop the suction tube in it. The stamp could inject different amounts
    > depending on,
    >
    > A. Water Level
    > B. User defined grade of soiling
    > Light
    > Medium
    > Heavy
    >
    >
    > I don't know if those little plastic pumps could handle bleach. But it
    > might be worth a try. They are only $10-$15.
    >
    > Probably the easiest reminder for wife to do clothes is to have the
    > Stamp automatically hang up the phone for her [noparse]:)[/noparse]
    >
    >
    >
    > timevex@o... wrote:
    > >
    > > I already told my wife about this post. She's loving the idea of
    > > totally customizing the appliances. She's been sending me things she
    > > wants in the code. Settable extended soak, pause and chime after
    > > rinse (to remind her to add the fabric softener), auto re-rinse if
    > > the clothes sat in the washer overnight. She wants to customize the
    > > dryer too, with a short cool tumble every 20mins after it stopped
    > > drying (to prevent wrinkles) in case she forgets to take the clothes
    > > out right away.
    > >
    > > It looks like I'll be doing this for my next project. Thanks for the
    > > ideas.
    > >
    > > --- In basicstamps@y..., Don Denhardt <dondenhardt@y...> wrote:
    > > > Hey if you want really white whites try this for cycling
    > > > 1. Prewash tepid water (not warm-not cold) (20 minutes)
    > > > Use thermistor to monitor temps using RCTIME
    > > > Engage hot or cold as needed
    > > > 2. Spinout
    > > > 3. Pause (add soap and bleach)
    > > > 4. Hot water wash (20 minutes)
    > > > 5. Double rinse
    > > >
    > > > Boy you could really have fun with that project using LCD. Use KISS
    > > > concepts to avoid having wife get confused. Would be really slick
    > > if
    > > > you could do custom cycles by menu selection for custom washes and
    > > > retain some standard cycles also. 'Course that will keep you
    > > > programming for a few months. I can picture wife tapping toes
    > > wondering
    > > > if she'll ever get to use the machine again. AND, if so, if it will
    > > > take a doctorate degree in engineering to figure out how to work it.
    > > >
    > > > Have fun
    > > >
    > > > Don
    > > >
    > > > Scott Sutton wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > > Thanks for all the help!
    > > > > As it turns out, the speed queen set-up uses a spring
    > > > > loaded idler that supplies that tranny with power for
    > > > > the spin cyle. The idler disengages the belt to the
    > > > > drum when the drum is loaded (water and clothes) but
    > > > > the pump continues to run at full speed, when the drum
    > > > > empties the water the drum becomes lighter and the
    > > > > idler gradually engages the belt for the spin mode. By
    > > > > the way, a bs2 comtrolled washing machine is
    > > > > great!!And the wife finally appreciates one of my
    > > > > projects>
    > > > > Scott Sutton
    > > > > --- Don Denhardt <dondenhardt@y...> wrote:
    > > > > > Hi Scott,
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Some of the machines trigger the spin after pumpout
    > > > > > mechanically I
    > > > > > think. The late model Sears (Whirlpool) I have will
    > > > > > pump, then stop
    > > > > > briefly and some mechanism latches. When the motor
    > > > > > reenergizes it spins
    > > > > > and pumps.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Don
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Scott Sutton wrote:
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > Please help,
    > > > > > > I have a speed queen washing machine that died.
    > > > > > The
    > > > > > > machine is computer controlled and the processor
    > > > > > > intermittently locks up and the replacement board
    > > > > > is
    > > > > > > $262.00!!! So what does a stamp programmer do?
    > > > > > Build a
    > > > > > > new controller and program it with a stamp, and
    > > > > > that's
    > > > > > > exactly what I did. However, I don't understand
    > > > > > > something about the operation of the motor. In one
    > > > > > > direction(ccw) the motor causes agitation to
    > > > > > happen
    > > > > > > and the pump to recirculate water, in the other
    > > > > > > direction(cw) the drum spins and the pump drains
    > > > > > the
    > > > > > > tank out. The problem is that I can't get the pump
    > > > > > to
    > > > > > > drain without causing the tank to spin. When the
    > > > > > > machine is loaded with cloths, you should be able
    > > > > > to
    > > > > > > drain off the water before spinning the load. The
    > > > > > > motor is controlled by two relays,(I am using the
    > > > > > > original high level driver board) one supplies the
    > > > > > > main winding and the other is a double pole double
    > > > > > > throw type that causes the motor direction to
    > > > > > change.
    > > > > > > It may be that these relays need to be energized
    > > > > > in a
    > > > > > > certain sequence or delay time. If anyone has any
    > > > > > info
    > > > > > > about the motor or machine operation I would
    > > > > > greatly
    > > > > > > appreciate it.
    > > > > > > Scott
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-09-28 00:35
    >MAke it a network device. Have it order more soap when it runs low.

    You would probably enjoy the article "Homedaddy does the Laundry"
    by Todd Pinsky, which addresses the issue of highly-customized
    washing machines... It's in "Funny Times" magazine/newspaper
    October issue page 21, available at most Borders/Barnes & Noble.

    Reg Neale
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