Next-Generation Stamp ideas?
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Hello,
For a while I've been thinking about "what will be next" in the
BASIC Stamp series. As I'm sure we all know competitors have come
along boasting greater performance and more features. However, the
original BASIC STAMP still seems to be the winner as far as software
goes, as they are extremely easy to program. However, in some
situations 32 bytes of RAM just isn't enough, and a little more
speed is needed. At the moment I currently use Atmel AVR chips as
well as Stamps. The stamp is usually the main controller, with the
AVR as a purpose-made high-speed precision coprocessor. The AVR is
quite an amazing chip, and for the very short time I used the PIC, I
could say that it is simply superior as far as speed goes. As we
all know the main component of the Stamp is it's PIC or SX
microcontroller. I think the Atmel AVR would be best suited for the
job of the "Basic Stamp 3". Most important is the new Atmel ATMega8
chip. It runs at 16MHz at about 12-14 MIPS (almost all instrucitons
are 1-cycle, branch instructions are 4) and is available in a 32-pin
MLF package. The MLF is 5mm x 5mm! The chip also has 1kbyte of
SRAM on board, as well as 512B of EEPROM, and 8kbytes of FLASH Rom
for the interpreter code. It can optonally use an on-chip
oscillator, eliminating the need for a crystal and providing 2 extra
I/O pins. In addition it has 8 10-bit ADC's on-chip. If the
onboard oscillator is used, the chip can handle 22 general I/O pins,
2 of which can be used as hardware accellerated serial pins (like
the SIN and SOUT pins on the BS2) and 8 of which can be used as 10-
bit ADC. With 1024bytes of RAM, the stamp would be able to have at
least 768 bytes of RAM as opposed to the 32 bytes used in the
current PIC and SX based Stamps! You can see more data on the chip
here:
http://www.avrfreaks.com/Devices/devices.php?action=1&devid=52
As you can tell I think a Stamp based on the ATMega8 would be a
really great chip. It might not offer many more I/O pins, but it
would be more powerful than any current stamp, and probably any
other BASIC microcontroller on the market at this time. But what I
think we'd really like to know is what everyone wants. I'm not a
Parallax employee or anything, but if we can gather our ideas
together, maybe we can find out what the best "next stamp" would be.
For a while I've been thinking about "what will be next" in the
BASIC Stamp series. As I'm sure we all know competitors have come
along boasting greater performance and more features. However, the
original BASIC STAMP still seems to be the winner as far as software
goes, as they are extremely easy to program. However, in some
situations 32 bytes of RAM just isn't enough, and a little more
speed is needed. At the moment I currently use Atmel AVR chips as
well as Stamps. The stamp is usually the main controller, with the
AVR as a purpose-made high-speed precision coprocessor. The AVR is
quite an amazing chip, and for the very short time I used the PIC, I
could say that it is simply superior as far as speed goes. As we
all know the main component of the Stamp is it's PIC or SX
microcontroller. I think the Atmel AVR would be best suited for the
job of the "Basic Stamp 3". Most important is the new Atmel ATMega8
chip. It runs at 16MHz at about 12-14 MIPS (almost all instrucitons
are 1-cycle, branch instructions are 4) and is available in a 32-pin
MLF package. The MLF is 5mm x 5mm! The chip also has 1kbyte of
SRAM on board, as well as 512B of EEPROM, and 8kbytes of FLASH Rom
for the interpreter code. It can optonally use an on-chip
oscillator, eliminating the need for a crystal and providing 2 extra
I/O pins. In addition it has 8 10-bit ADC's on-chip. If the
onboard oscillator is used, the chip can handle 22 general I/O pins,
2 of which can be used as hardware accellerated serial pins (like
the SIN and SOUT pins on the BS2) and 8 of which can be used as 10-
bit ADC. With 1024bytes of RAM, the stamp would be able to have at
least 768 bytes of RAM as opposed to the 32 bytes used in the
current PIC and SX based Stamps! You can see more data on the chip
here:
http://www.avrfreaks.com/Devices/devices.php?action=1&devid=52
As you can tell I think a Stamp based on the ATMega8 would be a
really great chip. It might not offer many more I/O pins, but it
would be more powerful than any current stamp, and probably any
other BASIC microcontroller on the market at this time. But what I
think we'd really like to know is what everyone wants. I'm not a
Parallax employee or anything, but if we can gather our ideas
together, maybe we can find out what the best "next stamp" would be.
Comments
They are called BASIC Step
Friendly Regards
Octavio Nogueira
===================================================
nogueira@p... ICQ# 19841898
ProPic tools - low cost PIC programmer and emulator
http://www.propic2.com
===================================================
Original Message
From: <pyromaneyakk@h...>
To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 1:55 AM
Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Next-Generation Stamp ideas?
> Hello,
>
> For a while I've been thinking about "what will be next" in the
> BASIC Stamp series. As I'm sure we all know competitors have come
> along boasting greater performance and more features. However, the
> original BASIC STAMP still seems to be the winner as far as software
> goes, as they are extremely easy to program. However, in some
> situations 32 bytes of RAM just isn't enough, and a little more
> speed is needed. At the moment I currently use Atmel AVR chips as
> well as Stamps. The stamp is usually the main controller, with the
> AVR as a purpose-made high-speed precision coprocessor. The AVR is
> quite an amazing chip, and for the very short time I used the PIC, I
> could say that it is simply superior as far as speed goes. As we
> all know the main component of the Stamp is it's PIC or SX
> microcontroller. I think the Atmel AVR would be best suited for the
> job of the "Basic Stamp 3". Most important is the new Atmel ATMega8
> chip. It runs at 16MHz at about 12-14 MIPS (almost all instrucitons
> are 1-cycle, branch instructions are 4) and is available in a 32-pin
> MLF package. The MLF is 5mm x 5mm! The chip also has 1kbyte of
> SRAM on board, as well as 512B of EEPROM, and 8kbytes of FLASH Rom
> for the interpreter code. It can optonally use an on-chip
> oscillator, eliminating the need for a crystal and providing 2 extra
> I/O pins. In addition it has 8 10-bit ADC's on-chip. If the
> onboard oscillator is used, the chip can handle 22 general I/O pins,
> 2 of which can be used as hardware accellerated serial pins (like
> the SIN and SOUT pins on the BS2) and 8 of which can be used as 10-
> bit ADC. With 1024bytes of RAM, the stamp would be able to have at
> least 768 bytes of RAM as opposed to the 32 bytes used in the
> current PIC and SX based Stamps! You can see more data on the chip
> here:
>
> http://www.avrfreaks.com/Devices/devices.php?action=1&devid=52
>
> As you can tell I think a Stamp based on the ATMega8 would be a
> really great chip. It might not offer many more I/O pins, but it
> would be more powerful than any current stamp, and probably any
> other BASIC microcontroller on the market at this time. But what I
> think we'd really like to know is what everyone wants. I'm not a
> Parallax employee or anything, but if we can gather our ideas
> together, maybe we can find out what the best "next stamp" would be.
>
>
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>
search 'tato ind' and select 'translate this page' and
presto ! it is in english !
way too cool.
I got hung on on 4028 enchalads/salads......
I have to agree that it is time for the next generation.
faster, more memory and some analogue inputs.
I think the recent talk about competotors shows that
there is a market for a faster/smarter/better unit.
Dave
--- In basicstamps@y..., "Octavio P Nogueira" <octaviopnogueira@u...>
wrote:
> We have some of them ready at http://www.tato.ind.br
> They are called BASIC Step
>
> Friendly Regards
>
> Octavio Nogueira
> ===================================================
> nogueira@p... ICQ# 19841898
> ProPic tools - low cost PIC programmer and emulator
> http://www.propic2.com
> ===================================================
>
>
Original Message
> From: <pyromaneyakk@h...>
> To: <basicstamps@y...>
> Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 1:55 AM
> Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Next-Generation Stamp ideas?
>
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > For a while I've been thinking about "what will be next" in the
> > BASIC Stamp series. As I'm sure we all know competitors have come
> > along boasting greater performance and more features. However,
the
> > original BASIC STAMP still seems to be the winner as far as
software
> > goes, as they are extremely easy to program. However, in some
> > situations 32 bytes of RAM just isn't enough, and a little more
> > speed is needed. At the moment I currently use Atmel AVR chips as
> > well as Stamps. The stamp is usually the main controller, with
the
> > AVR as a purpose-made high-speed precision coprocessor. The AVR
is
> > quite an amazing chip, and for the very short time I used the
PIC, I
> > could say that it is simply superior as far as speed goes. As we
> > all know the main component of the Stamp is it's PIC or SX
> > microcontroller. I think the Atmel AVR would be best suited for
the
> > job of the "Basic Stamp 3". Most important is the new Atmel
ATMega8
> > chip. It runs at 16MHz at about 12-14 MIPS (almost all
instrucitons
> > are 1-cycle, branch instructions are 4) and is available in a 32-
pin
> > MLF package. The MLF is 5mm x 5mm! The chip also has 1kbyte of
> > SRAM on board, as well as 512B of EEPROM, and 8kbytes of FLASH Rom
> > for the interpreter code. It can optonally use an on-chip
> > oscillator, eliminating the need for a crystal and providing 2
extra
> > I/O pins. In addition it has 8 10-bit ADC's on-chip. If the
> > onboard oscillator is used, the chip can handle 22 general I/O
pins,
> > 2 of which can be used as hardware accellerated serial pins (like
> > the SIN and SOUT pins on the BS2) and 8 of which can be used as
10-
> > bit ADC. With 1024bytes of RAM, the stamp would be able to have
at
> > least 768 bytes of RAM as opposed to the 32 bytes used in the
> > current PIC and SX based Stamps! You can see more data on the
chip
> > here:
> >
> > http://www.avrfreaks.com/Devices/devices.php?action=1&devid=52
> >
> > As you can tell I think a Stamp based on the ATMega8 would be a
> > really great chip. It might not offer many more I/O pins, but it
> > would be more powerful than any current stamp, and probably any
> > other BASIC microcontroller on the market at this time. But what
I
> > think we'd really like to know is what everyone wants. I'm not a
> > Parallax employee or anything, but if we can gather our ideas
> > together, maybe we can find out what the best "next stamp" would
be.
> >
> >
> > To UNSUBSCRIBE, just send mail to:
> > basicstamps-unsubscribe@y...
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Subject and
> Body of the message will be ignored.
> >
> >
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http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
As long as it is as fast and feature packed as the basic stamp 2 plus 40, I
don't care what it uses. I really really need 4 decimal places to make the
stamp into exactly what I want from a micro.
Robert Staph, W3RCS
The Center for Advanced Technologies
> >
Original Message
> > From: <pyromaneyakk@h...>
> > To: <basicstamps@y...>
> > Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 1:55 AM
> > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Next-Generation Stamp ideas?
> >
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > For a while I've been thinking about "what will be next" in the
> > > BASIC Stamp series. As I'm sure we all know competitors have come
> > > along boasting greater performance and more features. However,
> the
> > > original BASIC STAMP still seems to be the winner as far as
> software
> > > goes, as they are extremely easy to program. However, in some
> > > situations 32 bytes of RAM just isn't enough, and a little more
> > > speed is needed. At the moment I currently use Atmel AVR chips as
> > > well as Stamps. The stamp is usually the main controller, with
> the
> > > AVR as a purpose-made high-speed precision coprocessor. The AVR
> is
> > > quite an amazing chip, and for the very short time I used the
> PIC, I
> > > could say that it is simply superior as far as speed goes. As we
> > > all know the main component of the Stamp is it's PIC or SX
> > > microcontroller. I think the Atmel AVR would be best suited for
> the
> > > job of the "Basic Stamp 3". Most important is the new Atmel
> ATMega8
> > > chip. It runs at 16MHz at about 12-14 MIPS (almost all
> instrucitons
> > > are 1-cycle, branch instructions are 4) and is available in a 32-
> pin
> > > MLF package. The MLF is 5mm x 5mm! The chip also has 1kbyte of
> > > SRAM on board, as well as 512B of EEPROM, and 8kbytes of FLASH Rom
> > > for the interpreter code. It can optonally use an on-chip
> > > oscillator, eliminating the need for a crystal and providing 2
> extra
> > > I/O pins. In addition it has 8 10-bit ADC's on-chip. If the
> > > onboard oscillator is used, the chip can handle 22 general I/O
> pins,
> > > 2 of which can be used as hardware accellerated serial pins (like
> > > the SIN and SOUT pins on the BS2) and 8 of which can be used as
> 10-
> > > bit ADC. With 1024bytes of RAM, the stamp would be able to have
> at
> > > least 768 bytes of RAM as opposed to the 32 bytes used in the
> > > current PIC and SX based Stamps! You can see more data on the
> chip
> > > here:
> > >
> > > http://www.avrfreaks.com/Devices/devices.php?action=1&devid=52
> > >
> > > As you can tell I think a Stamp based on the ATMega8 would be a
> > > really great chip. It might not offer many more I/O pins, but it
> > > would be more powerful than any current stamp, and probably any
> > > other BASIC microcontroller on the market at this time. But what
> I
> > > think we'd really like to know is what everyone wants. I'm not a
> > > Parallax employee or anything, but if we can gather our ideas
> > > together, maybe we can find out what the best "next stamp" would
> be.
> > >
> > >
> > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, just send mail to:
> > > basicstamps-unsubscribe@y...
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Where did you get it?
Friendly Regards
Octavio Nogueira
===================================================
nogueira@p... ICQ# 19841898
ProPic tools - low cost PIC programmer and emulator
http://www.propic2.com
===================================================
Original Message
From: "Dave Mucha" <davemucha@j...>
To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 10:57 AM
Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Next-Generation Stamp ideas?
> google is way too cool !
>
> search 'tato ind' and select 'translate this page' and
> presto ! it is in english !
>
> way too cool.
>
> I got hung on on 4028 enchalads/salads......
>
> I have to agree that it is time for the next generation.
> faster, more memory and some analogue inputs.
>
> I think the recent talk about competotors shows that
> there is a market for a faster/smarter/better unit.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In basicstamps@y..., "Octavio P Nogueira" <octaviopnogueira@u...>
> wrote:
> > We have some of them ready at http://www.tato.ind.br
> > They are called BASIC Step
> >
> > Friendly Regards
> >
> > Octavio Nogueira
> > ===================================================
> > nogueira@p... ICQ# 19841898
> > ProPic tools - low cost PIC programmer and emulator
> > http://www.propic2.com
> > ===================================================
> >
> >
Original Message
> > From: <pyromaneyakk@h...>
> > To: <basicstamps@y...>
> > Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 1:55 AM
> > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Next-Generation Stamp ideas?
> >
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > For a while I've been thinking about "what will be next" in the
> > > BASIC Stamp series. As I'm sure we all know competitors have come
> > > along boasting greater performance and more features. However,
> the
> > > original BASIC STAMP still seems to be the winner as far as
> software
> > > goes, as they are extremely easy to program. However, in some
> > > situations 32 bytes of RAM just isn't enough, and a little more
> > > speed is needed. At the moment I currently use Atmel AVR chips as
> > > well as Stamps. The stamp is usually the main controller, with
> the
> > > AVR as a purpose-made high-speed precision coprocessor. The AVR
> is
> > > quite an amazing chip, and for the very short time I used the
> PIC, I
> > > could say that it is simply superior as far as speed goes. As we
> > > all know the main component of the Stamp is it's PIC or SX
> > > microcontroller. I think the Atmel AVR would be best suited for
> the
> > > job of the "Basic Stamp 3". Most important is the new Atmel
> ATMega8
> > > chip. It runs at 16MHz at about 12-14 MIPS (almost all
> instrucitons
> > > are 1-cycle, branch instructions are 4) and is available in a 32-
> pin
> > > MLF package. The MLF is 5mm x 5mm! The chip also has 1kbyte of
> > > SRAM on board, as well as 512B of EEPROM, and 8kbytes of FLASH Rom
> > > for the interpreter code. It can optonally use an on-chip
> > > oscillator, eliminating the need for a crystal and providing 2
> extra
> > > I/O pins. In addition it has 8 10-bit ADC's on-chip. If the
> > > onboard oscillator is used, the chip can handle 22 general I/O
> pins,
> > > 2 of which can be used as hardware accellerated serial pins (like
> > > the SIN and SOUT pins on the BS2) and 8 of which can be used as
> 10-
> > > bit ADC. With 1024bytes of RAM, the stamp would be able to have
> at
> > > least 768 bytes of RAM as opposed to the 32 bytes used in the
> > > current PIC and SX based Stamps! You can see more data on the
> chip
> > > here:
> > >
> > > http://www.avrfreaks.com/Devices/devices.php?action=1&devid=52
> > >
> > > As you can tell I think a Stamp based on the ATMega8 would be a
> > > really great chip. It might not offer many more I/O pins, but it
> > > would be more powerful than any current stamp, and probably any
> > > other BASIC microcontroller on the market at this time. But what
> I
> > > think we'd really like to know is what everyone wants. I'm not a
> > > Parallax employee or anything, but if we can gather our ideas
> > > together, maybe we can find out what the best "next stamp" would
> be.
> > >
> > >
> > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, just send mail to:
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IF-THEN-ELSE and IF-THEN GOSUB would really trim down on redundant code.
Mike
At 10:46 AM 9/10/2001 -0400, you wrote:
>I want floating point math! [noparse]:)[/noparse] or at least 4 decimal places to play with.
>As long as it is as fast and feature packed as the basic stamp 2 plus 40, I
>don't care what it uses. I really really need 4 decimal places to make the
>stamp into exactly what I want from a micro.
>
>Robert Staph, W3RCS
>The Center for Advanced Technologies
_________________________________
Mike Walsh
walsh@i...
Jay
>and, Santa, while you're at it,
>IF-THEN-ELSE and IF-THEN GOSUB would really trim down on redundant code.
>I want floating point math! [noparse]:)[/noparse] or at least 4 decimal places to play with.
>As long as it is as fast and feature packed as the basic stamp 2 plus 40, I
>don't care what it uses. I really really need 4 decimal places to make the
>stamp into exactly what I want from a micro.
Tim
At 07:00 AM 9/10/2001 -0300, you wrote:
>We have some of them ready at http://www.tato.ind.br
>They are called BASIC Step
>
>Friendly Regards
>
>Octavio Nogueira
>===================================================
>nogueira@p... ICQ# 19841898
>ProPic tools - low cost PIC programmer and emulator
>http://www.propic2.com
>===================================================
>
>
Original Message
>From: <pyromaneyakk@h...>
>To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 1:55 AM
>Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Next-Generation Stamp ideas?
>
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > For a while I've been thinking about "what will be next" in the
> > BASIC Stamp series. As I'm sure we all know competitors have come
> > along boasting greater performance and more features. However, the
> > original BASIC STAMP still seems to be the winner as far as software
> > goes, as they are extremely easy to program. However, in some
> > situations 32 bytes of RAM just isn't enough, and a little more
> > speed is needed. At the moment I currently use Atmel AVR chips as
> > well as Stamps. The stamp is usually the main controller, with the
> > AVR as a purpose-made high-speed precision coprocessor. The AVR is
> > quite an amazing chip, and for the very short time I used the PIC, I
> > could say that it is simply superior as far as speed goes. As we
> > all know the main component of the Stamp is it's PIC or SX
> > microcontroller. I think the Atmel AVR would be best suited for the
> > job of the "Basic Stamp 3". Most important is the new Atmel ATMega8
> > chip. It runs at 16MHz at about 12-14 MIPS (almost all instrucitons
> > are 1-cycle, branch instructions are 4) and is available in a 32-pin
> > MLF package. The MLF is 5mm x 5mm! The chip also has 1kbyte of
> > SRAM on board, as well as 512B of EEPROM, and 8kbytes of FLASH Rom
> > for the interpreter code. It can optonally use an on-chip
> > oscillator, eliminating the need for a crystal and providing 2 extra
> > I/O pins. In addition it has 8 10-bit ADC's on-chip. If the
> > onboard oscillator is used, the chip can handle 22 general I/O pins,
> > 2 of which can be used as hardware accellerated serial pins (like
> > the SIN and SOUT pins on the BS2) and 8 of which can be used as 10-
> > bit ADC. With 1024bytes of RAM, the stamp would be able to have at
> > least 768 bytes of RAM as opposed to the 32 bytes used in the
> > current PIC and SX based Stamps! You can see more data on the chip
> > here:
> >
> > http://www.avrfreaks.com/Devices/devices.php?action=1&devid=52
> >
> > As you can tell I think a Stamp based on the ATMega8 would be a
> > really great chip. It might not offer many more I/O pins, but it
> > would be more powerful than any current stamp, and probably any
> > other BASIC microcontroller on the market at this time. But what I
> > think we'd really like to know is what everyone wants. I'm not a
> > Parallax employee or anything, but if we can gather our ideas
> > together, maybe we can find out what the best "next stamp" would be.
> >
> >
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>Body of the message will be ignored.
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AT90S2313 Atmel processor running at 10MHz.
It has 2k of memory, runs a compiled code, not interpreted,
You can mix assembler routines as well and it has
2 true external interrupts.
15 I/O pins are available and true RS-232 up to 115200 bps.
The language accepts:
Decision:
IF, THEN, ELSE, ELSEIF, END IF, DO, LOOP, WHILE, WEND, UNTIL, EXIT DO, EXIT
WHILE, FOR, NEXT, TO, DOWNTO, STEP, EXIT FOR, ON .. GOTO/GOSUB, SELECT,
CASE.
Input and Output:
PRINT, INPUT, INKEY, PRINT, INPUTHEX, LCD, UPPERLINE, LOWERLINE,DISPLAY
ON/OFF, CURSOR ON/OFF/BLINK/NOBLINK, HOME, LOCATE, SHIFTLCD LEFT/RIGHT,
SHIFTCURSOR LEFT/RIGHT, CLS, DEFLCDCHAR, WAITKEY, INPUTBIN, PRINTBIN, OPEN,
CLOSE, DEBOUNCE, SHIFTIN, SHIFTOUT, GETATKBD
Numeric Functions:
AND, OR, XOR, INC, DEC, MOD, NOT, ABS, BCD, SIN,COS,TAN,EXP.
I2C:
I2CSTART, I2CSTOP, I2CWBYTE, I2CRBYTE, I2CSEND and I2CRECEIVE.
1WIRE:
1WWRITE, 1WREAD, 1WRESET, 1WIRECOUNT, 1WSEARCHFIRST, 1WSEARCHNEXT.
SPI:
SPIINIT, SPIIN, SPIOUT.
Interrupts:
ON INT0/INT1/TIMER0/TIMER1/SERIAL, RETURN, ENABLE, DISABLE, COUNTERx,
CAPTUREx, INTERRUPTS, CONFIG, START, LOAD.
Bit manipulation:
SET, RESET, ROTATE, SHIFT, BITWAIT, TOGGLE.
Variables:
DIM, BIT , BYTE , INTEGER , WORD, LONG, SINGLE, STRING , DEFBIT, DEFBYTE,
DEFINT, DEFWORD.
Misc:
REM, ' , SWAP, END, STOP, CONST, DELAY, WAIT, WAITMS, GOTO, GOSUB,
POWERDOWN, IDLE, DECLARE, CALL, SUB, END SUB, MAKEDEC, MAKEBCD, INP,OUT,
ALIAS, DIM , ERASE, DATA, READ, RESTORE, INCR, DECR, PEEK, POKE, CPEEK,
FUNCTION, READMAGCARD.
Friendly Regards
Octavio Nogueira
===================================================
nogueira@p... ICQ# 19841898
ProPic tools - low cost PIC programmer and emulator
http://www.propic2.com
===================================================
Original Message
From: "Timothy Medema" <timm@c...>
To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Next-Generation Stamp ideas?
>
> Do you have an English version of the web site?
>
> Tim
>
> At 07:00 AM 9/10/2001 -0300, you wrote:
> >We have some of them ready at http://www.tato.ind.br
> >They are called BASIC Step
> >
> >Friendly Regards
> >
> >Octavio Nogueira
> >===================================================
> >nogueira@p... ICQ# 19841898
> >ProPic tools - low cost PIC programmer and emulator
> >http://www.propic2.com
> >===================================================
> >
> >
Original Message
> >From: <pyromaneyakk@h...>
> >To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
> >Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 1:55 AM
> >Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Next-Generation Stamp ideas?
> >
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > For a while I've been thinking about "what will be next" in the
> > > BASIC Stamp series. As I'm sure we all know competitors have come
> > > along boasting greater performance and more features. However, the
> > > original BASIC STAMP still seems to be the winner as far as software
> > > goes, as they are extremely easy to program. However, in some
> > > situations 32 bytes of RAM just isn't enough, and a little more
> > > speed is needed. At the moment I currently use Atmel AVR chips as
> > > well as Stamps. The stamp is usually the main controller, with the
> > > AVR as a purpose-made high-speed precision coprocessor. The AVR is
> > > quite an amazing chip, and for the very short time I used the PIC, I
> > > could say that it is simply superior as far as speed goes. As we
> > > all know the main component of the Stamp is it's PIC or SX
> > > microcontroller. I think the Atmel AVR would be best suited for the
> > > job of the "Basic Stamp 3". Most important is the new Atmel ATMega8
> > > chip. It runs at 16MHz at about 12-14 MIPS (almost all instrucitons
> > > are 1-cycle, branch instructions are 4) and is available in a 32-pin
> > > MLF package. The MLF is 5mm x 5mm! The chip also has 1kbyte of
> > > SRAM on board, as well as 512B of EEPROM, and 8kbytes of FLASH Rom
> > > for the interpreter code. It can optonally use an on-chip
> > > oscillator, eliminating the need for a crystal and providing 2 extra
> > > I/O pins. In addition it has 8 10-bit ADC's on-chip. If the
> > > onboard oscillator is used, the chip can handle 22 general I/O pins,
> > > 2 of which can be used as hardware accellerated serial pins (like
> > > the SIN and SOUT pins on the BS2) and 8 of which can be used as 10-
> > > bit ADC. With 1024bytes of RAM, the stamp would be able to have at
> > > least 768 bytes of RAM as opposed to the 32 bytes used in the
> > > current PIC and SX based Stamps! You can see more data on the chip
> > > here:
> > >
> > > http://www.avrfreaks.com/Devices/devices.php?action=1&devid=52
> > >
> > > As you can tell I think a Stamp based on the ATMega8 would be a
> > > really great chip. It might not offer many more I/O pins, but it
> > > would be more powerful than any current stamp, and probably any
> > > other BASIC microcontroller on the market at this time. But what I
> > > think we'd really like to know is what everyone wants. I'm not a
> > > Parallax employee or anything, but if we can gather our ideas
> > > together, maybe we can find out what the best "next stamp" would be.
> > >
> > >
> > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, just send mail to:
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and
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> Timothy Medema
> CrystaLite, Inc.
> 3307 Cedar St. (425) 745-6000 800-666-6065
> Everett, WA 98201 Fax: (425) 257-0232
>
> www.crystaliteinc.com
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version of your page.
-John
At 07:00 AM 9/10/01 -0300, you wrote:
>We have some of them ready at http://www.tato.ind.br
>They are called BASIC Step
>
>Friendly Regards
>
>Octavio Nogueira
>===================================================
>nogueira@p... ICQ# 19841898
>ProPic tools - low cost PIC programmer and emulator
>http://www.propic2.com
>===================================================
>
>
Original Message
>From: <pyromaneyakk@h...>
>To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 1:55 AM
>Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Next-Generation Stamp ideas?
>
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > For a while I've been thinking about "what will be next" in the
> > BASIC Stamp series. As I'm sure we all know competitors have come
> > along boasting greater performance and more features. However, the
> > original BASIC STAMP still seems to be the winner as far as software
> > goes, as they are extremely easy to program. However, in some
> > situations 32 bytes of RAM just isn't enough, and a little more
> > speed is needed. At the moment I currently use Atmel AVR chips as
> > well as Stamps. The stamp is usually the main controller, with the
> > AVR as a purpose-made high-speed precision coprocessor. The AVR is
> > quite an amazing chip, and for the very short time I used the PIC, I
> > could say that it is simply superior as far as speed goes. As we
> > all know the main component of the Stamp is it's PIC or SX
> > microcontroller. I think the Atmel AVR would be best suited for the
> > job of the "Basic Stamp 3". Most important is the new Atmel ATMega8
> > chip. It runs at 16MHz at about 12-14 MIPS (almost all instrucitons
> > are 1-cycle, branch instructions are 4) and is available in a 32-pin
> > MLF package. The MLF is 5mm x 5mm! The chip also has 1kbyte of
> > SRAM on board, as well as 512B of EEPROM, and 8kbytes of FLASH Rom
> > for the interpreter code. It can optonally use an on-chip
> > oscillator, eliminating the need for a crystal and providing 2 extra
> > I/O pins. In addition it has 8 10-bit ADC's on-chip. If the
> > onboard oscillator is used, the chip can handle 22 general I/O pins,
> > 2 of which can be used as hardware accellerated serial pins (like
> > the SIN and SOUT pins on the BS2) and 8 of which can be used as 10-
> > bit ADC. With 1024bytes of RAM, the stamp would be able to have at
> > least 768 bytes of RAM as opposed to the 32 bytes used in the
> > current PIC and SX based Stamps! You can see more data on the chip
> > here:
> >
> > http://www.avrfreaks.com/Devices/devices.php?action=1&devid=52
> >
> > As you can tell I think a Stamp based on the ATMega8 would be a
> > really great chip. It might not offer many more I/O pins, but it
> > would be more powerful than any current stamp, and probably any
> > other BASIC microcontroller on the market at this time. But what I
> > think we'd really like to know is what everyone wants. I'm not a
> > Parallax employee or anything, but if we can gather our ideas
> > together, maybe we can find out what the best "next stamp" would be.
> >
> >
> > To UNSUBSCRIBE, just send mail to:
> > basicstamps-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > from the same email address that you subscribed. Text in the Subject and
>Body of the message will be ignored.
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
>
>
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Thank you for taking the time to provide the English translation
yourself - very kind and much appreciated.
Tim
At 04:29 PM 9/10/2001 -0300, you wrote:
>Unfortunately not yet, but the BASIC Step 2K uses a
>AT90S2313 Atmel processor running at 10MHz.
>It has 2k of memory, runs a compiled code, not interpreted,
>You can mix assembler routines as well and it has
>2 true external interrupts.
>15 I/O pins are available and true RS-232 up to 115200 bps.
>The language accepts:
>
>Decision:
>IF, THEN, ELSE, ELSEIF, END IF, DO, LOOP, WHILE, WEND, UNTIL, EXIT DO, EXIT
>WHILE, FOR, NEXT, TO, DOWNTO, STEP, EXIT FOR, ON .. GOTO/GOSUB, SELECT,
>CASE.
>
>Input and Output:
>PRINT, INPUT, INKEY, PRINT, INPUTHEX, LCD, UPPERLINE, LOWERLINE,DISPLAY
>ON/OFF, CURSOR ON/OFF/BLINK/NOBLINK, HOME, LOCATE, SHIFTLCD LEFT/RIGHT,
>SHIFTCURSOR LEFT/RIGHT, CLS, DEFLCDCHAR, WAITKEY, INPUTBIN, PRINTBIN, OPEN,
>CLOSE, DEBOUNCE, SHIFTIN, SHIFTOUT, GETATKBD
>
>Numeric Functions:
>AND, OR, XOR, INC, DEC, MOD, NOT, ABS, BCD, SIN,COS,TAN,EXP.
>
>I2C:
>I2CSTART, I2CSTOP, I2CWBYTE, I2CRBYTE, I2CSEND and I2CRECEIVE.
>
>1WIRE:
>1WWRITE, 1WREAD, 1WRESET, 1WIRECOUNT, 1WSEARCHFIRST, 1WSEARCHNEXT.
>
>SPI:
>SPIINIT, SPIIN, SPIOUT.
>
>Interrupts:
>ON INT0/INT1/TIMER0/TIMER1/SERIAL, RETURN, ENABLE, DISABLE, COUNTERx,
>CAPTUREx, INTERRUPTS, CONFIG, START, LOAD.
>
>Bit manipulation:
>SET, RESET, ROTATE, SHIFT, BITWAIT, TOGGLE.
>
>Variables:
>DIM, BIT , BYTE , INTEGER , WORD, LONG, SINGLE, STRING , DEFBIT, DEFBYTE,
>DEFINT, DEFWORD.
>
>Misc:
>REM, ' , SWAP, END, STOP, CONST, DELAY, WAIT, WAITMS, GOTO, GOSUB,
>POWERDOWN, IDLE, DECLARE, CALL, SUB, END SUB, MAKEDEC, MAKEBCD, INP,OUT,
>ALIAS, DIM , ERASE, DATA, READ, RESTORE, INCR, DECR, PEEK, POKE, CPEEK,
>FUNCTION, READMAGCARD.
>
>
>
>Friendly Regards
>
>Octavio Nogueira
>===================================================
>nogueira@p... ICQ# 19841898
>ProPic tools - low cost PIC programmer and emulator
>http://www.propic2.com
>===================================================
>
>
Original Message
>From: "Timothy Medema" <timm@c...>
>To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 2:28 PM
>Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Next-Generation Stamp ideas?
>
>
> >
> > Do you have an English version of the web site?
> >
> > Tim
> >
> > At 07:00 AM 9/10/2001 -0300, you wrote:
> > >We have some of them ready at http://www.tato.ind.br
> > >They are called BASIC Step
> > >
> > >Friendly Regards
> > >
> > >Octavio Nogueira
> > >===================================================
> > >nogueira@p... ICQ# 19841898
> > >ProPic tools - low cost PIC programmer and emulator
> > >http://www.propic2.com
> > >===================================================
> > >
> > >
Original Message
> > >From: <pyromaneyakk@h...>
> > >To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
> > >Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 1:55 AM
> > >Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Next-Generation Stamp ideas?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > For a while I've been thinking about "what will be next" in the
> > > > BASIC Stamp series. As I'm sure we all know competitors have come
> > > > along boasting greater performance and more features. However, the
> > > > original BASIC STAMP still seems to be the winner as far as software
> > > > goes, as they are extremely easy to program. However, in some
> > > > situations 32 bytes of RAM just isn't enough, and a little more
> > > > speed is needed. At the moment I currently use Atmel AVR chips as
> > > > well as Stamps. The stamp is usually the main controller, with the
> > > > AVR as a purpose-made high-speed precision coprocessor. The AVR is
> > > > quite an amazing chip, and for the very short time I used the PIC, I
> > > > could say that it is simply superior as far as speed goes. As we
> > > > all know the main component of the Stamp is it's PIC or SX
> > > > microcontroller. I think the Atmel AVR would be best suited for the
> > > > job of the "Basic Stamp 3". Most important is the new Atmel ATMega8
> > > > chip. It runs at 16MHz at about 12-14 MIPS (almost all instrucitons
> > > > are 1-cycle, branch instructions are 4) and is available in a 32-pin
> > > > MLF package. The MLF is 5mm x 5mm! The chip also has 1kbyte of
> > > > SRAM on board, as well as 512B of EEPROM, and 8kbytes of FLASH Rom
> > > > for the interpreter code. It can optonally use an on-chip
> > > > oscillator, eliminating the need for a crystal and providing 2 extra
> > > > I/O pins. In addition it has 8 10-bit ADC's on-chip. If the
> > > > onboard oscillator is used, the chip can handle 22 general I/O pins,
> > > > 2 of which can be used as hardware accellerated serial pins (like
> > > > the SIN and SOUT pins on the BS2) and 8 of which can be used as 10-
> > > > bit ADC. With 1024bytes of RAM, the stamp would be able to have at
> > > > least 768 bytes of RAM as opposed to the 32 bytes used in the
> > > > current PIC and SX based Stamps! You can see more data on the chip
> > > > here:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.avrfreaks.com/Devices/devices.php?action=1&devid=52
> > > >
> > > > As you can tell I think a Stamp based on the ATMega8 would be a
> > > > really great chip. It might not offer many more I/O pins, but it
> > > > would be more powerful than any current stamp, and probably any
> > > > other BASIC microcontroller on the market at this time. But what I
> > > > think we'd really like to know is what everyone wants. I'm not a
> > > > Parallax employee or anything, but if we can gather our ideas
> > > > together, maybe we can find out what the best "next stamp" would be.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, just send mail to:
> > > > basicstamps-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > > > from the same email address that you subscribed. Text in the Subject
>and
> > >Body of the message will be ignored.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
>http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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> > > >
> > >
> > >
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> >
> > Timothy Medema
> > CrystaLite, Inc.
> > 3307 Cedar St. (425) 745-6000 800-666-6065
> > Everett, WA 98201 Fax: (425) 257-0232
> >
> > www.crystaliteinc.com
> > <mailto:timm@c...>timm@c...
> >
> >
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Timothy Medema
CrystaLite, Inc.
3307 Cedar St. (425) 745-6000 800-666-6065
Everett, WA 98201 Fax: (425) 257-0232
www.crystaliteinc.com
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