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ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2001-08-30 06:55 in General Discussion
Hello,
Can anyone tell me how I can control the speed of an 8A motor
(forward and reverse) with a BS2? I was thinking of using PWM and a
FET switch, but I couldnt find a high current FET switch anywhere,
and I couldn't think of a way for it to run in reverse. Thanks.

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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-08-21 18:16
    Do you need speed control, or just forward and reverse?

    8 amps is a bit much for normal components, but there are some FETs
    available that would do the job.

    Original Message

    > Can anyone tell me how I can control the speed of an 8A motor
    > (forward and reverse) with a BS2? I was thinking of using PWM and a
    > FET switch, but I couldnt find a high current FET switch anywhere,
    > and I couldn't think of a way for it to run in reverse.
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-08-21 18:47
    --- In basicstamps@y..., Rodent <daweasel@s...> wrote:
    > Do you need speed control, or just forward and reverse?
    >
    > 8 amps is a bit much for normal components, but there are some FETs
    > available that would do the job.
    >

    It would be nice to have both: from -100%(full reverse) to +100%(full
    forward) and anywhere in between. Do you know where I could get those
    kind of FETs? Thank you very much.
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-08-21 23:30
    At 05:47 PM 8/21/01 +0000, you wrote:
    >--- In basicstamps@y..., Rodent <daweasel@s...> wrote:
    > > Do you need speed control, or just forward and reverse?
    > >
    > > 8 amps is a bit much for normal components, but there are some FETs
    > > available that would do the job.
    > >
    >
    >It would be nice to have both: from -100%(full reverse) to +100%(full
    >forward) and anywhere in between. Do you know where I could get those
    >kind of FETs? Thank you very much.

    It's not the FET that determines FWD and REV, it's how you hook them
    up. To switch polarity/direction you need a single H-Bridge or a Relay
    configured to switch polarity with the supply power controlled by a FET.

    My FET of choice for my RC-car hobby is an NTE2395 (approx. $5.00 US)

    Spec:
    Continuous Drain Current = 50Amps @ 25 deg C
    = 36Amps @ 100 deg C

    RDSon = 0.028 Ohms
    Gate Threshold Voltage = 2V Min 4V Max
    http://www.nteinc.com/specs/2300to2399/pdf/nte2395.pdf


    Here is an example circuit for a typical single direction
    speed controller using a standard (1mS to 2mS) RC pulse.
    http://www.capable.on.ca/esc.htm


    Typically I configure four NTE2395's in parallel providing
    an RDSon of .007 Ohms and to reverse, I simply used a relay.

    The LOWER RDSon you have the "cooler" your MOSFETS will run,
    and the more efficient your power transfer will be in delivering
    your power directly to your motor(s).






    Beau Schwabe IC Mask Designer
    National Semiconductor Wired Communications Division
    500 Pinnacle Court, Suite 525 Mail Stop GA1 Norcross, GA 30071
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-08-22 21:11
    Check out http://www.digikey.com

    They have a wide range of FETs, including the high amperage ones.

    Although you should note (I've mentioned this recently in another
    post) that when working with mosfets rated for higher amperages, and
    with lower RDSon values, there is a higher gate capacitance, meaning
    that it takes longer for the mosFET to turn on, thus letting it pass
    through linear mode for a longer amount of time (linear mode is where
    the resistance is high, and it heats up) You can use a MOSFET driver,
    which will provide high enough current to turn the mosfet on quickly,
    so it won't heat up as much.. I use the tc4427 (also available at
    digikey).. All I do is place it between the PWM or I/O signal, and
    the mosfet's gate.. It works really good.

    ~Roger~
    TenFour

    --- In basicstamps@y..., "Beau Schwabe" <bschwabe@a...> wrote:
    > At 05:47 PM 8/21/01 +0000, you wrote:
    > >--- In basicstamps@y..., Rodent <daweasel@s...> wrote:
    > > > Do you need speed control, or just forward and reverse?
    > > >
    > > > 8 amps is a bit much for normal components, but there are some
    FETs
    > > > available that would do the job.
    > > >
    > >
    > >It would be nice to have both: from -100%(full reverse) to +100%
    (full
    > >forward) and anywhere in between. Do you know where I could get
    those
    > >kind of FETs? Thank you very much.
    >
    > It's not the FET that determines FWD and REV, it's how you hook them
    > up. To switch polarity/direction you need a single H-Bridge or a
    Relay
    > configured to switch polarity with the supply power controlled by a
    FET.
    >
    > My FET of choice for my RC-car hobby is an NTE2395 (approx. $5.00
    US)
    >
    > Spec:
    > Continuous Drain Current = 50Amps @ 25 deg C
    > = 36Amps @ 100 deg C
    >
    > RDSon = 0.028 Ohms
    > Gate Threshold Voltage = 2V Min 4V Max
    > http://www.nteinc.com/specs/2300to2399/pdf/nte2395.pdf
    >
    >
    > Here is an example circuit for a typical single direction
    > speed controller using a standard (1mS to 2mS) RC pulse.
    > http://www.capable.on.ca/esc.htm
    >
    >
    > Typically I configure four NTE2395's in parallel providing
    > an RDSon of .007 Ohms and to reverse, I simply used a relay.
    >
    > The LOWER RDSon you have the "cooler" your MOSFETS will run,
    > and the more efficient your power transfer will be in delivering
    > your power directly to your motor(s).
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Beau Schwabe IC Mask Designer
    > National Semiconductor Wired Communications Division
    > 500 Pinnacle Court, Suite 525 Mail Stop GA1 Norcross, GA 30071
    >
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-08-30 06:55
    For Leroy:
    Original Message
    From: Beau Schwabe <bschwabe@a...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 6:30 PM
    Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: motor & PWM


    > At 05:47 PM 8/21/01 +0000, you wrote:
    > >--- In basicstamps@y..., Rodent <daweasel@s...> wrote:
    > > > Do you need speed control, or just forward and reverse?
    > > >
    > > > 8 amps is a bit much for normal components, but there are some FETs
    > > > available that would do the job.
    > > >
    > >
    > >It would be nice to have both: from -100%(full reverse) to +100%(full
    > >forward) and anywhere in between. Do you know where I could get those
    > >kind of FETs? Thank you very much.
    >
    > It's not the FET that determines FWD and REV, it's how you hook them
    > up. To switch polarity/direction you need a single H-Bridge or a Relay
    > configured to switch polarity with the supply power controlled by a FET.
    >
    > My FET of choice for my RC-car hobby is an NTE2395 (approx. $5.00 US)
    >
    > Spec:
    > Continuous Drain Current = 50Amps @ 25 deg C
    > = 36Amps @ 100 deg C
    >
    > RDSon = 0.028 Ohms
    > Gate Threshold Voltage = 2V Min 4V Max
    > http://www.nteinc.com/specs/2300to2399/pdf/nte2395.pdf
    >
    >
    > Here is an example circuit for a typical single direction
    > speed controller using a standard (1mS to 2mS) RC pulse.
    > http://www.capable.on.ca/esc.htm
    >
    >
    > Typically I configure four NTE2395's in parallel providing
    > an RDSon of .007 Ohms and to reverse, I simply used a relay.
    >
    > The LOWER RDSon you have the "cooler" your MOSFETS will run,
    > and the more efficient your power transfer will be in delivering
    > your power directly to your motor(s).
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Beau Schwabe IC Mask Designer
    > National Semiconductor Wired Communications Division
    > 500 Pinnacle Court, Suite 525 Mail Stop GA1 Norcross, GA 30071
    >
    >
    >
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