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Gyro. What is it?

ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2001-08-01 16:14 in General Discussion
Hello all,
I was on a summer proj. and back to doin some BS2 now (getting ready
for winter activities - if u know what I mean).

I've seen quite a few postings on gyro earlier. I apologize for
missing those. Could you please give me info on these topics and
also suggest any ideas on my project plan?

thanks a lot in advance for all you help (and patience)


1. What is a gyro
2. How can I interface this with BS2 (and am sure I need some sort of
motor speed control device - may be Al Williams')
3. Any existing project ideas that I can try out.

This is what I want to do:
a. Build a flying object that uses motors that will receive commands
from BS2 (and some speed control chip) to hover as an interior object

b. Let this object hover under the ceiling at about 1 foot distance -
using some sort of distance measuring component (panasonic IR sensor
may be)

c. I'd like to keep this to use a single motor if possible that uses
2 or 3 servos to handle its axis.


I might be wrong in what I'm expecting to do. But, I'd like to learn
from your ideas and thoughts.

thanks a lot everybody
nagi

Comments

  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-08-01 05:40
    Dennis,
    thanks a lot for u'input. When u say, "roll, pitch and yaw", what axis
    would they be in? s

    Original Message
    From: Dennis P. O'Leary [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=OnkvzZ7ApMHhxKbCrAGFr5NYqSR7bquWVSCTkYnUXM59Quf6S0PiFjfWp_INk3M_1c_VPdjd68qT_Us]doleary@h...[/url
    Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 11:47 PM
    To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Gyro. What is it?


    A gyro is often shorthand for gyro stabilizer. It monitors rotational
    motion about one of three axes (roll, pitch and yaw) of a flying (or
    floating) object, and sends the rotational signal to a feedback control
    system containing actuators that maintain the craft level and relatively
    stable about that axis. In the past, they were based on spinning
    gyroscopes, hence the name gyro. More recently, they are MEMS-based
    microchip devices that accurately record rotational velocity. One
    example
    is made by Murata, and weighs only 1 gram. I use them in OEM medical
    devices for human motion monitoring, but it is difficult to obtain them
    in
    small quantities (< 100). Other examples are readily available, and
    found
    in suppliers such as Digikey. For interfacing, you will need to use an
    analog-to-digital converter, ported to a BS2. As to project plans, a
    hovercraft would appear to require a relatively complex actuator system
    to
    keep it stable and level, but I'm not an expert in that area.

    Dennis

    Dennis O'Leary
    WSR Inc
    Pasadena CA

    Original Message
    From: nags@c... [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=PJ8TZ-Z32NomcOp7S_FICrAIdvSyoQwh-msdKCJDJYybLRQf_mcvvoIhZiMARpJBX3BigJVOriucQPJn]nags@c...[/url
    Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 5:28 PM
    To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Gyro. What is it?


    Hello all,
    I was on a summer proj. and back to doin some BS2 now (getting ready
    for winter activities - if u know what I mean).

    I've seen quite a few postings on gyro earlier. I apologize for
    missing those. Could you please give me info on these topics and
    also suggest any ideas on my project plan?

    thanks a lot in advance for all you help (and patience)


    1. What is a gyro
    2. How can I interface this with BS2 (and am sure I need some sort of
    motor speed control device - may be Al Williams')
    3. Any existing project ideas that I can try out.

    This is what I want to do:
    a. Build a flying object that uses motors that will receive commands
    from BS2 (and some speed control chip) to hover as an interior object

    b. Let this object hover under the ceiling at about 1 foot distance -
    using some sort of distance measuring component (panasonic IR sensor
    may be)

    c. I'd like to keep this to use a single motor if possible that uses
    2 or 3 servos to handle its axis.


    I might be wrong in what I'm expecting to do. But, I'd like to learn
    from your ideas and thoughts.

    thanks a lot everybody
    nagi




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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-08-01 05:46
    A gyro is often shorthand for gyro stabilizer. It monitors rotational
    motion about one of three axes (roll, pitch and yaw) of a flying (or
    floating) object, and sends the rotational signal to a feedback control
    system containing actuators that maintain the craft level and relatively
    stable about that axis. In the past, they were based on spinning
    gyroscopes, hence the name gyro. More recently, they are MEMS-based
    microchip devices that accurately record rotational velocity. One example
    is made by Murata, and weighs only 1 gram. I use them in OEM medical
    devices for human motion monitoring, but it is difficult to obtain them in
    small quantities (< 100). Other examples are readily available, and found
    in suppliers such as Digikey. For interfacing, you will need to use an
    analog-to-digital converter, ported to a BS2. As to project plans, a
    hovercraft would appear to require a relatively complex actuator system to
    keep it stable and level, but I'm not an expert in that area.

    Dennis

    Dennis O'Leary
    WSR Inc
    Pasadena CA

    Original Message
    From: nags@c... [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=R7WiYdKjoB8jGTznGNk1u-eR5cMCb5NbJo3xOjklh3QgVHWt3gmgqnQ3c40S4_QFRy2i5PSfdGyy9zYkHA]nags@c...[/url
    Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 5:28 PM
    To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Gyro. What is it?


    Hello all,
    I was on a summer proj. and back to doin some BS2 now (getting ready
    for winter activities - if u know what I mean).

    I've seen quite a few postings on gyro earlier. I apologize for
    missing those. Could you please give me info on these topics and
    also suggest any ideas on my project plan?

    thanks a lot in advance for all you help (and patience)


    1. What is a gyro
    2. How can I interface this with BS2 (and am sure I need some sort of
    motor speed control device - may be Al Williams')
    3. Any existing project ideas that I can try out.

    This is what I want to do:
    a. Build a flying object that uses motors that will receive commands
    from BS2 (and some speed control chip) to hover as an interior object

    b. Let this object hover under the ceiling at about 1 foot distance -
    using some sort of distance measuring component (panasonic IR sensor
    may be)

    c. I'd like to keep this to use a single motor if possible that uses
    2 or 3 servos to handle its axis.


    I might be wrong in what I'm expecting to do. But, I'd like to learn
    from your ideas and thoughts.

    thanks a lot everybody
    nagi




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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-08-01 06:16
    Nagi,

    Referenced to a flying aircraft, roll refers to rotation about the long axis
    of the fusilage (or aircraft body), pitch refers to up or down motion of the
    aircraft's nose, and yaw refers to left or right turning motions while
    flying level. Note that actual aircraft motions involve simultaneous
    actions or components of all three. So roll, pitch and yaw are angular
    equivalents of the x, y, and z axes of a linear, 3-dimensional coordinate
    system.

    Dennis

    Original Message
    From: Nagi Babu [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=ALmbZnNvcRBUKI8kkaeTF76vRXj_K2-E0JHg3DFKHakllqdNl4BjaY3N8hUaptJLzNM6ZGozZ-w]nags@c...[/url
    Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 9:41 PM
    To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Gyro. What is it?


    Dennis,
    thanks a lot for u'input. When u say, "roll, pitch and yaw", what axis
    would they be in? s

    Original Message
    From: Dennis P. O'Leary [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=z1zqZi7K-nkslES2J27PSAtEp5wyyt8jTJ0Lh_d3-xZrDGX8dnpr0FonyYuA07_9oNxQUa-vZW6uM_o6]doleary@h...[/url
    Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 11:47 PM
    To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Gyro. What is it?


    A gyro is often shorthand for gyro stabilizer. It monitors rotational
    motion about one of three axes (roll, pitch and yaw) of a flying (or
    floating) object, and sends the rotational signal to a feedback control
    system containing actuators that maintain the craft level and relatively
    stable about that axis. In the past, they were based on spinning
    gyroscopes, hence the name gyro. More recently, they are MEMS-based
    microchip devices that accurately record rotational velocity. One
    example
    is made by Murata, and weighs only 1 gram. I use them in OEM medical
    devices for human motion monitoring, but it is difficult to obtain them
    in
    small quantities (< 100). Other examples are readily available, and
    found
    in suppliers such as Digikey. For interfacing, you will need to use an
    analog-to-digital converter, ported to a BS2. As to project plans, a
    hovercraft would appear to require a relatively complex actuator system
    to
    keep it stable and level, but I'm not an expert in that area.

    Dennis

    Dennis O'Leary
    WSR Inc
    Pasadena CA

    Original Message
    From: nags@c... [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=ALmbZnNvcRBUKI8kkaeTF76vRXj_K2-E0JHg3DFKHakllqdNl4BjaY3N8hUaptJLzNM6ZGozZ-w]nags@c...[/url
    Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 5:28 PM
    To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Gyro. What is it?


    Hello all,
    I was on a summer proj. and back to doin some BS2 now (getting ready
    for winter activities - if u know what I mean).

    I've seen quite a few postings on gyro earlier. I apologize for
    missing those. Could you please give me info on these topics and
    also suggest any ideas on my project plan?

    thanks a lot in advance for all you help (and patience)


    1. What is a gyro
    2. How can I interface this with BS2 (and am sure I need some sort of
    motor speed control device - may be Al Williams')
    3. Any existing project ideas that I can try out.

    This is what I want to do:
    a. Build a flying object that uses motors that will receive commands
    from BS2 (and some speed control chip) to hover as an interior object

    b. Let this object hover under the ceiling at about 1 foot distance -
    using some sort of distance measuring component (panasonic IR sensor
    may be)

    c. I'd like to keep this to use a single motor if possible that uses
    2 or 3 servos to handle its axis.


    I might be wrong in what I'm expecting to do. But, I'd like to learn
    from your ideas and thoughts.

    thanks a lot everybody
    nagi




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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-08-01 16:14
    Do also a search on "agv" (Automated Guided Vehicles) and/or accelerometers
    (these are the measuring devices which calculates the acceleration of the
    object on which they are fastened) which all uses an inertial platform
    system and a two axis accelerometers to calculate the position of the AGV in
    a two dimensional space.
    An inertial platform system (INS with 3 accelerometers) is also used in all
    aircrafts all over the world as an independent position measuring system.
    (In most aircrafts, there are 3 independent INS systems). A GPS still needs
    some sattelites (which can be set off any time by the US Army) to determine
    his position but an INS system is complete independent and therefore still
    used in modern aircrafts and is therfore more safe then a GPS. (A flight
    with an INS from Brussels to Tokyo gives a fault from ony 2 nautical miles
    when arriving Tokio). You also can use fixed well known points to
    recalibrate the measuring system (which is done in all aircrafts).
    Hope this was helpfull.
    Peter, Belgium
    Sorry for my crappy English.

    Some links
    http://www.spp.co.jp/sssj/sirikon-e.html
    http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~nd/surprise_97/journal/vol1/jmd/
    http://www.entran.com/atoc.htm
    http://www.dseurope.com/


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    Verzonden: woensdag 1 augustus 2001 6:47
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    Onderwerp: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Gyro. What is it?


    at is it?


    Hello all,
    I was on a summer proj. and back to doin some BS2 now (getting ready
    for winter activities - if u know what I mean).

    I've seen quite a few postings on gyro earlier. I apologize for
    missing those. Could you please give me info on these topics and
    also suggest any ideas on my project plan?

    thanks a lot in advance for all you help (and patience)


    1. What is a gyro
    2. How can I interface this with BS2 (and am sure I need some sort of
    motor speed control device - may be Al Williams')
    3. Any existing project ideas that I can try out.

    This is what I want to do:
    a. Build a flying object that uses motors that will receive commands
    from BS2 (and some speed control chip) to hover as an interior object

    b. Let this object hover under the ceiling at about 1 foot distance -
    using some sort of distance measuring component (panasonic IR sensor
    may be)

    c. I'd like to keep this to use a single motor if possible that uses
    2 or 3 servos to handle its axis.


    I might be wrong in what I'm expecting to do. But, I'd like to learn
    from your ideas and thoughts.

    thanks a lot everybody
    nagi
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