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BS2SX relay help.

ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2001-07-27 19:19 in General Discussion
After a little phone time with Parallax tech support, I was directed
to this group for some help. This is what I need:

1. Actuate 16 relays from my board (BOE).
I know that I cannot pull any more than 30mA per I/O, thus my
problem.

I need to find a company that sells relays that actuate at 5V and
pull no more than 25mA. I am using these relays to turn on and off
equipment that runs at 24VAC. I am just going to put a transformer on
the other side of the relays to run the equipment. PLEASE HELP!
~Joe

Comments

  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-07-20 16:06
    While you might be able to find low-current relays, you'd be better off
    using a simple transistor driver to drive any relay. This not only relaxes
    the current requirement, but it is quite cheap and protects your relatively
    expensive processor.

    Read http://www.al-williams.com/wd5gnr/stampfaq.htm#s2.5

    Regards,

    Al Williams
    AWC
    * SALE: PAK-IX Floating Point A/D - http://www.al-williams.com/awce/pak9.htm


    >
    Original Message
    > From: hellerj@p... [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=M9I9LyOmWaCjOvDMbLmy23SujuTyC5BJemMVCZTHFGawiNbBBBEh3RS4PTMV2xTEt7KOgP4Whm63ZnsO]hellerj@p...[/url
    > Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 10:00 AM
    > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] BS2SX relay help.
    >
    >
    > After a little phone time with Parallax tech support, I was directed
    > to this group for some help. This is what I need:
    >
    > 1. Actuate 16 relays from my board (BOE).
    > I know that I cannot pull any more than 30mA per I/O, thus my
    > problem.
    >
    > I need to find a company that sells relays that actuate at 5V and
    > pull no more than 25mA. I am using these relays to turn on and off
    > equipment that runs at 24VAC. I am just going to put a transformer on
    > the other side of the relays to run the equipment. PLEASE HELP!
    > ~Joe
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-07-20 16:27
    And don't leave out the flyback diodes....

    BTW, are mechanical relays really necessary? There are a number of
    non-mechanical ways to do on/off switching that are often preferred....

    Chris

    you'd be
    > better off
    > using a simple transistor driver to drive any relay. This not
    > only relaxes
    > the current requirement, but it is quite cheap and protects
    > your relatively
    > expensive processor.
    >
    > Read http://www.al-williams.com/wd5gnr/stampfaq.htm#s2.5
    >
    >
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-07-20 17:15
    You need to get away from trying to power everything off the Stamp voltage
    regulator and pins. Fortunately, the BOE has a healthy regulator that *may*
    run all 16 relays at once. You can use a 2N222 transistor, an 1N914 and a
    10k resistor to run any kind of small 5 volt relay. Might try Mouser.com,
    RadioShack.com or DigiKey for the relays.

    Original Message


    > After a little phone time with Parallax tech support, I was directed
    > to this group for some help. This is what I need:
    >
    > 1. Actuate 16 relays from my board (BOE).
    > I know that I cannot pull any more than 30mA per I/O, thus my
    > problem.
    >
    > I need to find a company that sells relays that actuate at 5V and
    > pull no more than 25mA. I am using these relays to turn on and off
    > equipment that runs at 24VAC. I am just going to put a transformer on
    > the other side of the relays to run the equipment. PLEASE HELP!
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-07-20 23:07
    At 7/20/2001 Friday 10:59 AM, hellerj@p... promulgated:
    >After a little phone time with Parallax tech support, I was directed
    >to this group for some help. This is what I need:
    >
    >1. Actuate 16 relays from my board (BOE).
    > I know that I cannot pull any more than 30mA per I/O, thus my
    >problem.
    >
    >I need to find a company that sells relays that actuate at 5V and
    >pull no more than 25mA. I am using these relays to turn on and off
    >equipment that runs at 24VAC. I am just going to put a transformer on
    >the other side of the relays to run the equipment. PLEASE HELP!
    >~Joe
    Hi Joe -

    One way do accomplish this is with an addressable relay driver.
    The following web link is a typical unit from Philips:
    http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/pip/ne5090n

    Regards,

    Bruce Bates
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-07-20 23:43
    go to the dontronics web site they have a relay board that uses a uln2003 or
    uln2803 driver this chip will allow you to use 12 volt relays ( cheaper and
    more types )
    Original Message
    From: Bruce Bates <bvbates@u...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: July 20, 2001 3:07 PM
    Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] BS2SX relay help.


    > At 7/20/2001 Friday 10:59 AM, hellerj@p... promulgated:
    > >After a little phone time with Parallax tech support, I was directed
    > >to this group for some help. This is what I need:
    > >
    > >1. Actuate 16 relays from my board (BOE).
    > > I know that I cannot pull any more than 30mA per I/O, thus my
    > >problem.
    > >
    > >I need to find a company that sells relays that actuate at 5V and
    > >pull no more than 25mA. I am using these relays to turn on and off
    > >equipment that runs at 24VAC. I am just going to put a transformer on
    > >the other side of the relays to run the equipment. PLEASE HELP!
    > >~Joe
    > Hi Joe -
    >
    > One way do accomplish this is with an addressable relay driver.
    > The following web link is a typical unit from Philips:
    > http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/pip/ne5090n
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    > Bruce Bates
    >
    >
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-07-20 23:45
    http://www.dontronics.com/download.html

    look for the dt106 board for a start this is a 4 relay board

    Original Message
    From: Bruce Bates <bvbates@u...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: July 20, 2001 3:07 PM
    Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] BS2SX relay help.


    > At 7/20/2001 Friday 10:59 AM, hellerj@p... promulgated:
    > >After a little phone time with Parallax tech support, I was directed
    > >to this group for some help. This is what I need:
    > >
    > >1. Actuate 16 relays from my board (BOE).
    > > I know that I cannot pull any more than 30mA per I/O, thus my
    > >problem.
    > >
    > >I need to find a company that sells relays that actuate at 5V and
    > >pull no more than 25mA. I am using these relays to turn on and off
    > >equipment that runs at 24VAC. I am just going to put a transformer on
    > >the other side of the relays to run the equipment. PLEASE HELP!
    > >~Joe
    > Hi Joe -
    >
    > One way do accomplish this is with an addressable relay driver.
    > The following web link is a typical unit from Philips:
    > http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/pip/ne5090n
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    > Bruce Bates
    >
    >
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-07-23 14:38
    > >I need to find a company that sells relays that actuate at 5V and
    > >pull no more than 25mA. I am using these relays to turn on and off
    > >equipment that runs at 24VAC. I am just going to put a transformer on
    > >the other side of the relays to run the equipment. PLEASE HELP!

    Joe,

    Also look at http://www.aromat.com/ECD.htm. Aromat is a big player in the
    low power relay buisness. They have a line of 50 mW relays (that's 4.5V at
    around 11mA). You can also probably use photoMOS relays which will take
    lower current (approx 10 mA or less). If I had my high speed link like I do
    at work, I'd look them up for ya, but at home I have a whopping 24K internet
    connection [noparse]:)[/noparse] ....

    Take care!
    John
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-07-27 19:19
    There are some very nice solid state relays that are mosfets with optical
    isolation. I know they are available from Digikey but I do not have the
    part number handy. I think they are made by arromat or something like that.
    I used them in a show controller run from a 16C74 PIC processor and had
    some severe current limitations. They worked great and have had no problems
    in the field.

    Larry


    At 02:59 PM 7/20/01 -0000, you wrote:
    >After a little phone time with Parallax tech support, I was directed
    >to this group for some help. This is what I need:
    >
    >1. Actuate 16 relays from my board (BOE).
    > I know that I cannot pull any more than 30mA per I/O, thus my
    >problem.
    >
    >I need to find a company that sells relays that actuate at 5V and
    >pull no more than 25mA. I am using these relays to turn on and off
    >equipment that runs at 24VAC. I am just going to put a transformer on
    >the other side of the relays to run the equipment. PLEASE HELP!
    >~Joe
    >
    >
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    >
    >
    Larry G. Nelson Sr.
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