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newbie question, having problems setting up

ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2001-07-14 18:41 in General Discussion
my issue involves a situation which has been addressed in a previous
post (message 4532 expanded gives all the details) but it still
doesn't solve my problem. I am using a BS2-SX chip (which im
realizing now wasn't the greatest idea after doing more research, but
the difference in price for the kits wasn't significant and i thought
it would be cheaper than upgrading later. oh well)that came in a kit,
the "board of education" from parallax. This is my problem: I'm using
Win98 so I installed the Win9x editing software. I plugged in the
serial cable to the board and the COM1 port, i put in the BS2-SX chip
in the proper orientation, then i plugged in the power adapter. So
far so good. I wrote a somple test program consisting of the
lines '{$Stamp BS2SX} and debug "hello", the result being that the
text should print in the debug window. I tried to run the program, no
snytax errors, and it gave me the message "Basic Stamp IISX detected
but not responding to COM1. Check power supply." Since then i've done
just about everything i could think of: I've unplugged the power,
switched wall outlets, switched computers, I've changed ports and the
settings in preferences, i've gone into device manager and changed
the com settings to BAUD 2400 and i've disbled the FIFO buffers
(wasn't sure if that would change anything), i've switched to a 9V
battery and I always got the same message. So, that led me to believe
that there may be something wrong on the board but all i have is the
chip, the cable, and the power supply. I did some searching on this
site and found the post i mentioned at the beginning and how i should
check the resonator to be sure that is the right kind. If im not
mistaken the BS2-SX chip should have a 50 Mhz resonator. So i
checked, the resonator has 50 00 printed on it, which i can only
assume corresponds to 50 mhz. I'm sorry to bother all of you with
such a simple question but im all out of ideas. here's a link to the
kit i bought, in case you need more info:
http://www.parallaxinc.com/html_files/products/BS_Kits/basic_training_
kit.asp.
i've also contacted the tech support on this issue but i figured
there was no harm in getting advice from experienced users. any
insights or solutions would be greatly appreciated. I'm really eager
to get started.

Comments

  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-07-13 02:52
    i didnt read the last post you mentioned...but did youset the program
    to the BS2-sx mode...its under the preferences menu under "editor
    operations"

    Its pretty common sense but sometimes we overlook the obvious...

    g'luck
    Greg
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-07-13 03:19
    Could be a port problem too... Quick way to check:

    From Windows, click START, RUN and type COMMAND to get to a DOS window.

    In the DOS window, type DEBUG and press enter -- you should see a minus sign
    on the screen.

    Type D0:0400 and press enter. You should see a whole bunch of numbers

    The first line of numbers reveals the port information. If your PC has one
    serial port, the line should start with F8 03 00..., Two ports should be F8
    03 F8 02 00.... If you get different characters or they are in a different
    order you may have a port problem. The most common issue is having a port
    turned off in the BIOS and still being found by Windows, and having a port
    set to auto in the BIOS.

    oh yeah, type Q and press enter to get out of the DEBUG program.

    Original Message


    > my issue involves a situation which has been addressed in a previous
    > post (message 4532 expanded gives all the details) but it still
    > doesn't solve my problem. I am using a BS2-SX chip (which im
    > realizing now wasn't the greatest idea after doing more research, but
    > the difference in price for the kits wasn't significant and i thought
    > it would be cheaper than upgrading later. oh well)that came in a kit,
    > the "board of education" from parallax. This is my problem: I'm using
    > Win98 so I installed the Win9x editing software. I plugged in the
    > serial cable to the board and the COM1 port, i put in the BS2-SX chip
    > in the proper orientation, then i plugged in the power adapter. So
    > far so good. I wrote a somple test program consisting of the
    > lines '{$Stamp BS2SX} and debug "hello", the result being that the
    > text should print in the debug window. I tried to run the program, no
    > snytax errors, and it gave me the message "Basic Stamp IISX detected
    > but not responding to COM1. Check power supply." Since then i've done
    > just about everything i could think of: I've unplugged the power,
    > switched wall outlets, switched computers, I've changed ports and the
    > settings in preferences, i've gone into device manager and changed
    > the com settings to BAUD 2400 and i've disbled the FIFO buffers
    > (wasn't sure if that would change anything), i've switched to a 9V
    > battery and I always got the same message. So, that led me to believe
    > that there may be something wrong on the board but all i have is the
    > chip, the cable, and the power supply. I did some searching on this
    > site and found the post i mentioned at the beginning and how i should
    > check the resonator to be sure that is the right kind. If im not
    > mistaken the BS2-SX chip should have a 50 Mhz resonator. So i
    > checked, the resonator has 50 00 printed on it, which i can only
    > assume corresponds to 50 mhz. I'm sorry to bother all of you with
    > such a simple question but im all out of ideas. here's a link to the
    > kit i bought, in case you need more info:
    > http://www.parallaxinc.com/html_files/products/BS_Kits/basic_training_
    > kit.asp.
    > i've also contacted the tech support on this issue but i figured
    > there was no harm in getting advice from experienced users. any
    > insights or solutions would be greatly appreciated. I'm really eager
    > to get started.
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-07-13 03:25
    If you have the stamp statement in the code, as he did, it overrides the
    editor setting.

    Original Message

    > i didnt read the last post you mentioned...but did youset the program
    > to the BS2-sx mode...its under the preferences menu under "editor
    > operations"
    >
    > Its pretty common sense but sometimes we overlook the obvious...
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-07-13 04:19
    Hello Justin,

    Re-check the orientation of your chip. I got the same error messages when I
    had my chip in backwards.

    Regards, Harrison - Cleveland OH


    Original Message
    From: "Justin" <chipmunk1886@h...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 9:17 PM
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] newbie question, having problems setting up


    > my issue involves a situation which has been addressed in a previous
    > post (message 4532 expanded gives all the details) but it still
    > doesn't solve my problem. I am using a BS2-SX chip (which im
    > realizing now wasn't the greatest idea after doing more research, but
    > the difference in price for the kits wasn't significant and i thought
    > it would be cheaper than upgrading later. oh well)that came in a kit,
    > the "board of education" from parallax. This is my problem: I'm using
    > Win98 so I installed the Win9x editing software. I plugged in the
    > serial cable to the board and the COM1 port, i put in the BS2-SX chip
    > in the proper orientation, then i plugged in the power adapter. So
    > far so good. I wrote a somple test program consisting of the
    > lines '{$Stamp BS2SX} and debug "hello", the result being that the
    > text should print in the debug window. I tried to run the program, no
    > snytax errors, and it gave me the message "Basic Stamp IISX detected
    > but not responding to COM1. Check power supply." Since then i've done
    > just about everything i could think of: I've unplugged the power,
    > switched wall outlets, switched computers, I've changed ports and the
    > settings in preferences, i've gone into device manager and changed
    > the com settings to BAUD 2400 and i've disbled the FIFO buffers
    > (wasn't sure if that would change anything), i've switched to a 9V
    > battery and I always got the same message. So, that led me to believe
    > that there may be something wrong on the board but all i have is the
    > chip, the cable, and the power supply. I did some searching on this
    > site and found the post i mentioned at the beginning and how i should
    > check the resonator to be sure that is the right kind. If im not
    > mistaken the BS2-SX chip should have a 50 Mhz resonator. So i
    > checked, the resonator has 50 00 printed on it, which i can only
    > assume corresponds to 50 mhz. I'm sorry to bother all of you with
    > such a simple question but im all out of ideas. here's a link to the
    > kit i bought, in case you need more info:
    > http://www.parallaxinc.com/html_files/products/BS_Kits/basic_training_
    > kit.asp.
    > i've also contacted the tech support on this issue but i figured
    > there was no harm in getting advice from experienced users. any
    > insights or solutions would be greatly appreciated. I'm really eager
    > to get started.
    >
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-07-13 14:19
    --- In basicstamps@y..., jeep4x4greg@y... wrote:
    > i didnt read the last post you mentioned...but did youset the
    program
    > to the BS2-sx mode...its under the preferences menu under "editor
    > operations"
    >
    > Its pretty common sense but sometimes we overlook the obvious...
    >
    > g'luck
    > Greg

    yeah, i actually tried it on different chip settings (BS2, etc.), but
    that had no effect. Because i was getting the same error messae on
    different computers im convinced that im doing something wrong on the
    board itself.
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-07-13 14:24
    --- In basicstamps@y..., Rodent <daweasel@s...> wrote:
    > Could be a port problem too... Quick way to check:
    >
    > From Windows, click START, RUN and type COMMAND to get to a DOS
    window.
    >
    > In the DOS window, type DEBUG and press enter -- you should see a
    minus sign
    > on the screen.
    >
    > Type D0:0400 and press enter. You should see a whole bunch of
    numbers
    >
    > The first line of numbers reveals the port information. If your PC
    has one
    > serial port, the line should start with F8 03 00..., Two ports
    should be F8
    > 03 F8 02 00.... If you get different characters or they are in a
    different
    > order you may have a port problem. The most common issue is having
    a port
    > turned off in the BIOS and still being found by Windows, and having
    a port
    > set to auto in the BIOS.
    >
    > oh yeah, type Q and press enter to get out of the DEBUG program.

    -good idea, i did what you told me and my numbers checked out. i'm
    gonna go check my bios info and see if i can't make some progress.
    thanks for the help.
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-07-14 01:27
    If those values look OK and Windoze finds two ports, leave stuff alone. What
    you see in DEBUG is what DOS is seeing for ports. If the are right in DOS,
    they usually work in Windows. Believe me, this stuff will drive you crazy. I
    spent three years supporting a very ancient Quick Basic DOS application in a
    Windows environment. The horror stories I could tell...

    You might consider making a loopback connector to test the port, or connect
    an external modem.

    Original Message

    > > Could be a port problem too... Quick way to check:

    > -good idea, i did what you told me and my numbers checked out. i'm
    > gonna go check my bios info and see if i can't make some progress.
    > thanks for the help.
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-07-14 14:06
    nothing is working so far and tech support hasn't figured anything
    out yet. I'm returning the stamp and getting a replacement. Hopefully
    the same problem won't happen again.
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-07-14 18:41
    I got my first stamp (BS2e) two weeks ago, and it would
    not work. Almost sent it back. Wiggling the 9-pin cable
    where it connects to the stamp carrier fixed it and has
    been working ever since. I have to tell it alt-I every
    time TWICE though to identify. Is this normal?

    Perhaps they got a bad batch of
    cables.


    Original Message
    From: Justin [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=YrZOWE1OJHDR6sE7V8EOMkeiKwHepdk8V6jmoK-kTDNUl7LV9jWJWE4YQRDrPsJ8i9Or4ioCO2GQ71Wb08rS]chipmunk1886@h...[/url
    Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 7:06 AM
    To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: newbie question, having problems setting up


    nothing is working so far and tech support hasn't figured anything
    out yet. I'm returning the stamp and getting a replacement. Hopefully
    the same problem won't happen again.


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