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Here is the scenerio ...

ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2001-07-13 05:52 in General Discussion
This is more of an electronics question but it is part of a stamp
project...

I am setting up a weather station computer at an RC Flying field that has
no electrictiy and the problem I am currently having has to do with not
understanding a few basics. Here is my plan:

1. Set up a laptop and hook it up to a 12v car battery.

2. Hook up a Car Battery Solar Charger to keep the battery topped off.

My question is this. Will this solar charger
(http://www.baproducts.com/rpgt0417.htm) put out enough juice to make the
laptop never go dead? I dont kno what kind of draw the laptop takes and I
dont really understand the mA ratings on the solar panel.

2nd issue. I need to hook the laptop up to the car battery, how do I do
that? I know its probably pretty simple. I looked at the laptop ac adapter
and the ac adapter puts out 19v == 2.6A. Does that mean I can go straight
to the car battery and run 12v or do I need to make some circuit or
something... or am I looking at this all wrong? Also, on the ac adapter
cord there is like a cylinker in-line with the cord, what is that?

Now that the scenerio is out there, can anyone help me and tell me where
my plan is flawed?


- Matt Johnson

Comments

  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-07-11 22:21
    Hi Matt,
    For starters, even if the AC/DC problem didn't get you,
    it would take a considerable Solar array to keep a lead/acid
    battery topped up continuously.
    Maybe, if you had plenty of sunshine, and only used the system
    sporadically, you might get away with it, but I know that with both
    of my laptops, the 110VAC to 12v transformer gets pretty warm,
    indicating a serious power consumption on the part of the Laptop.
    Solar arrays don't yield much in the way of charging current, but
    probably can be used to "trickle charge" the battery given enough
    time, but if you're taking continuous readings, the laptop must be
    on continuously, and I don't think you'd like to pay for a solar
    array that was up to that task.

    Maybe someone else has a better idea.
    regards
    Russ

    Original Message
    From: Matt Johnson <matt@p...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 3:29 PM
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Here is the scenerio ...


    |
    | This is more of an electronics question but it is part of a stamp
    | project...
    |
    | I am setting up a weather station computer at an RC Flying field that has
    | no electrictiy and the problem I am currently having has to do with not
    | understanding a few basics. Here is my plan:
    |
    | 1. Set up a laptop and hook it up to a 12v car battery.
    |
    | 2. Hook up a Car Battery Solar Charger to keep the battery topped off.

    snip....|
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-07-11 22:47
    > This is more of an electronics question but it is part of a stamp
    > project...
    >
    > I am setting up a weather station computer at an RC Flying field that
    > has no electrictiy and the problem I am currently having has to do
    > with not understanding a few basics. Here is my plan:
    I saw something like this at an r/c field near Battle Creek,MI. I think the
    county put it there. Various weather sensors, solar panel and UHF tx.
    > 1. Set up a laptop and hook it up to a 12v car battery.
    >
    > 2. Hook up a Car Battery Solar Charger to keep the battery topped off.
    >
    > My question is this. Will this solar charger
    > (http://www.baproducts.com/rpgt0417.htm) put out enough juice to make
    > the laptop never go dead? I dont kno what kind of draw the laptop
    > takes and I dont really understand the mA ratings on the solar panel.
    Usually they give a maximum open circuit voltage and short circuit current.
    In this case they are giving typical ratings 125mA@15V or 1.8W
    From the adapter ratings you know it is around 2 Amps.
    > 2nd issue. I need to hook the laptop up to the car battery, how do I
    > do that? I know its probably pretty simple. I looked at the laptop ac
    > adapter and the ac adapter puts out 19v == 2.6A. Does that mean I can
    > go straight to the car battery and run 12v or do I need to make some
    > circuit or something... or am I looking at this all wrong? Also, on
    > the ac adapter cord there is like a cylinker in-line with the cord,
    > what is that?
    Is that 19V AC or DC? What is the internal battery voltage? If it is 12V then
    it may work.
    > Now that the scenerio is out there, can anyone help me and tell me
    > where my plan is flawed?
    >
    >
    > - Matt Johnson
    >
    >
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-07-12 01:46
    It is 12 vdc to answer your question. So it looks like the solar cant keep
    the battery charged then? ... What would be the best way then to power a
    laptop where there is no power? Is there a way to gauge the draw coming
    from the laptop?

    - Matt

    On Wed, 11 Jul 2001, Mike DeMetz wrote:

    >
    > > This is more of an electronics question but it is part of a stamp
    > > project...
    > >
    > > I am setting up a weather station computer at an RC Flying field that
    > > has no electrictiy and the problem I am currently having has to do
    > > with not understanding a few basics. Here is my plan:
    > I saw something like this at an r/c field near Battle Creek,MI. I think the
    > county put it there. Various weather sensors, solar panel and UHF tx.
    > > 1. Set up a laptop and hook it up to a 12v car battery.
    > >
    > > 2. Hook up a Car Battery Solar Charger to keep the battery topped off.
    > >
    > > My question is this. Will this solar charger
    > > (http://www.baproducts.com/rpgt0417.htm) put out enough juice to make
    > > the laptop never go dead? I dont kno what kind of draw the laptop
    > > takes and I dont really understand the mA ratings on the solar panel.
    > Usually they give a maximum open circuit voltage and short circuit current.
    > In this case they are giving typical ratings 125mA@15V or 1.8W
    > From the adapter ratings you know it is around 2 Amps.
    > > 2nd issue. I need to hook the laptop up to the car battery, how do I
    > > do that? I know its probably pretty simple. I looked at the laptop ac
    > > adapter and the ac adapter puts out 19v == 2.6A. Does that mean I can
    > > go straight to the car battery and run 12v or do I need to make some
    > > circuit or something... or am I looking at this all wrong? Also, on
    > > the ac adapter cord there is like a cylinker in-line with the cord,
    > > what is that?
    > Is that 19V AC or DC? What is the internal battery voltage? If it is 12V then
    > it may work.
    > > Now that the scenerio is out there, can anyone help me and tell me
    > > where my plan is flawed?
    > >
    > >
    > > - Matt Johnson
    > >
    > >
    >
    >
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-07-13 05:52
    i think a lap top is 20 watts, so you need 1x2 foot panel.
    Original Message
    From: "Russ Bassani" <RussBassani@a...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 2:21 PM
    Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Here is the scenerio ...


    > Hi Matt,
    > For starters, even if the AC/DC problem didn't get you,
    > it would take a considerable Solar array to keep a lead/acid
    > battery topped up continuously.
    > Maybe, if you had plenty of sunshine, and only used the system
    > sporadically, you might get away with it, but I know that with both
    > of my laptops, the 110VAC to 12v transformer gets pretty warm,
    > indicating a serious power consumption on the part of the Laptop.
    > Solar arrays don't yield much in the way of charging current, but
    > probably can be used to "trickle charge" the battery given enough
    > time, but if you're taking continuous readings, the laptop must be
    > on continuously, and I don't think you'd like to pay for a solar
    > array that was up to that task.
    >
    > Maybe someone else has a better idea.
    > regards
    > Russ
    >
    >
    Original Message
    > From: Matt Johnson <matt@p...>
    > To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    > Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 3:29 PM
    > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Here is the scenerio ...
    >
    >
    > |
    > | This is more of an electronics question but it is part of a stamp
    > | project...
    > |
    > | I am setting up a weather station computer at an RC Flying field that
    has
    > | no electrictiy and the problem I am currently having has to do with not
    > | understanding a few basics. Here is my plan:
    > |
    > | 1. Set up a laptop and hook it up to a 12v car battery.
    > |
    > | 2. Hook up a Car Battery Solar Charger to keep the battery topped off.
    >
    > snip....|
    >
    >
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