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basic stamp voltage regulator

ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2001-07-13 15:07 in General Discussion
Hi mark,

If you use a REGULATED 5V source you MUST power the stamp via its VDD pin
(leave Vin disconnected !!).
The Vin pin is for voltages that are between 5.5V and 15V and these may have
some ripple as the stamp's internal regulator fixes this. If you use the Vin
pin then you must NOT connect
a 5V source to the VDD pin.

Greetings peter


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If I'm powering the stamp with voltage that is being filtered through
a 5v regulator, should I hook it up to the vin pin, vdd pin, or does
it matter?

thanks!

Mark

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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-07-10 23:30
    If I'm powering the stamp with voltage that is being filtered through
    a 5v regulator, should I hook it up to the vin pin, vdd pin, or does
    it matter?

    thanks!

    Mark
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-07-11 00:07
    Mark, the Vdd pin on the Stamp to the the output of the 5 volt regulator.
    The Vin pin on the Stamp goes to the same voltage that is fed to the input of
    the regulator. I don't know that it is really necessary to hook up but it's
    better not to take a chance.

    Sid
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-07-11 02:12
    >Hi mark,
    >
    >If you use a REGULATED 5V source you MUST power the stamp via its VDD pin
    >(leave Vin disconnected !!).
    >The Vin pin is for voltages that are between 5.5V and 15V and these may have
    >some ripple as the stamp's internal regulator fixes this. If you use the Vin
    >pin then you must NOT connect
    >a 5V source to the VDD pin.


    Peter, thanks for the advice. Out of curiosity, what is the problem
    with hooking 5v up to Vin? Is it that 5v is just a little to small a
    voltage? Or is it just redundant to regulate the voltage twice?

    -Mark
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-07-11 04:16
    Hi Mark,

    You just gave the answer. The stamp regulator is a small current version
    of a 7805-type regulator and therefore needs a higher voltage at its input.
    All
    this information is also described in the stamp's manual with more
    specifics.

    Greetings peter


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    Onderwerp: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] basic stamp voltage regulator

    >Hi mark,
    >
    >If you use a REGULATED 5V source you MUST power the stamp via its VDD pin
    >(leave Vin disconnected !!).
    >The Vin pin is for voltages that are between 5.5V and 15V and these may
    have
    >some ripple as the stamp's internal regulator fixes this. If you use the
    Vin
    >pin then you must NOT connect
    >a 5V source to the VDD pin.


    Peter, thanks for the advice. Out of curiosity, what is the problem
    with hooking 5v up to Vin? Is it that 5v is just a little to small a
    voltage? Or is it just redundant to regulate the voltage twice?

    -Mark


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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-07-11 06:08
    The regulators Parallax uses are a low-drop regulator, meaning the input
    does not have to have 3 or 4 volts higher than the regulator rating to get
    proper regulation. The Stamp manual says Vin should be 5.5 to 12 volts DC,
    with 7.5 volts DC being optimal. Vin should be left unconnected if a
    regulated 5 volts is supplied to Vdd from an external source.

    Original Message

    > You just gave the answer. The stamp regulator is a small current version
    > of a 7805-type regulator and therefore needs a higher voltage at its
    input.
    > All
    > this information is also described in the stamp's manual with more
    > specifics.

    > >If you use a REGULATED 5V source you MUST power the stamp via its VDD pin
    > >(leave Vin disconnected !!).
    > >The Vin pin is for voltages that are between 5.5V and 15V and these may
    > have
    > >some ripple as the stamp's internal regulator fixes this. If you use the
    > Vin
    > >pin then you must NOT connect
    > >a 5V source to the VDD pin.
    >
    >
    > Peter, thanks for the advice. Out of curiosity, what is the problem
    > with hooking 5v up to Vin? Is it that 5v is just a little to small a
    > voltage? Or is it just redundant to regulate the voltage twice?
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-07-13 15:07
    An answer and a question for others.

    VIN will regulate the voltage DOWN from 5.5 to 12
    volts (15 for the Stamp I), so starting too low will
    not yield enough voltage. There is the advantage when
    using external power regulation (that is, a +5 volt
    power supply) in that each group of eight pins (0..7,
    8..15) can source or sink 100 mA - effectively 3, 30
    mA pins, while with internal regulation using VIN, the
    limit is 75 mA for ALL pins. So you would not want to
    use VIN if you have a regulated 5 volt supply. On the
    other hand, if you do not have a 5 volt supply and so
    use VIN, VDD then outputs 5 volts that could be used
    as the reference for shift registers or ADC's.

    By the way, with regard to the current limits on
    groups of eight pins, my current application may have
    a flaw. One group of eight pins has _CS, CLK, and DIO
    for use with ADC's, plus two LED's, both of which may
    be on simultaneously. Perhaps someone can help me
    understand whether this is a problem when, for
    instance, sending SHIFTOUT configuration over DIO to
    the LTC1298 ADC with both LED's High (at which point
    CLK would be pulsing but _CS would be Low). Would this
    be a problem area (4 * 30 mA > 100 mA), and if so
    would it be the only problem area (in which case I can
    modify my light sequence so that only one of the two
    lights is on at once)? Or do I have a problem when
    only one LED is High, SHIFTOUT is using CLK and DIO,
    and both _CS and the second LED are set Low?

    Regards,

    Bob Pence


    --- markallen <markallen@m...> wrote:
    > >Hi mark,
    > >
    > >If you use a REGULATED 5V source you MUST power the
    > stamp via its VDD pin
    > >(leave Vin disconnected !!).
    > >The Vin pin is for voltages that are between 5.5V
    > and 15V and these may have
    > >some ripple as the stamp's internal regulator fixes
    > this. If you use the Vin
    > >pin then you must NOT connect
    > >a 5V source to the VDD pin.
    >
    >
    > Peter, thanks for the advice. Out of curiosity, what
    > is the problem
    > with hooking 5v up to Vin? Is it that 5v is just a
    > little to small a
    > voltage? Or is it just redundant to regulate the
    > voltage twice?
    >
    > -Mark
    >
    >
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