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Remote Video Transmitter

ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2001-07-08 18:35 in General Discussion
Anyone know how to get a remote video system and R/C
system to work together without interfering with each
other. I have a camera and Ramsey Electronic
transmitter mounted on a platform controlled by radio
control. As long as the video transmitter is off, the
R/C functions properlly. The instant the video
transmitter is turned on the R/C system functions as
if it has a mind of its own. Also I noticed that the
picture from the video is affected by the R/C system.
I read about a similar system in John Iovine's book
"Robots, Androids and Animatrons". Evidently it can be
done.
Brian

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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-07-07 23:56
    For Briank

    There is NO way. I've been that route. The only way I could solve the
    problem was to program Stamp so it turned off the video when I wanted to R/C
    and then turn it back on when I wanted to video. Worked for my robot may
    wouldn't work for an airplace or boad where R/C commands are coninuous. The
    video is the one really causeing the problem I think. It puts out more power
    the your R/C Xmtr.

    Sid - W4EKQ
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-07-08 00:19
    At 18:44 07/07/01, Brian McMillion wrote:

    >Anyone know how to get a remote video system and R/C
    >system to work together without interfering with each
    >other. I have a camera and Ramsey Electronic
    >transmitter mounted on a platform controlled by radio
    >control. As long as the video transmitter is off, the
    >R/C functions properlly. The instant the video
    >transmitter is turned on the R/C system functions as
    >if it has a mind of its own. Also I noticed that the
    >picture from the video is affected by the R/C system.
    >I read about a similar system in John Iovine's book
    >"Robots, Androids and Animatrons". Evidently it can be
    >done.
    >Brian

    What frequencies are the two devices using and how far apart are the
    antennas for video and R/C on the robot?

    You can try separating the antennas a bit more and orienting them at right
    angles to each other. The circuitry inside the robot for these two devices
    should also be separated as much as possible.

    You *might* get some improvement by slipping a small ferrite bead over the
    antenna to the R/C receiver, assuming it is receiving a frequency *MUCH*
    lower than the video transmitter is using.

    Alternatives could involve turning off the video transmitter periodically
    and if R/C signals are sensed during that off period, keep it off until R/C
    signals cease being received. How workable that might be depends on how
    dependent the robot is on the R/C controller and how much you like jumpy video.

    Good luck,

    Jim H
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-07-08 02:19
    This must be possible. I recently looked up the International Aerial
    Robotics Competition website and the competitors are doing this kind of
    thing. Check out http://avdil.gtri.gatech.edu/AUVS/IARCLaunchPoint.html for
    links and info.

    HTH
    Justin.


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    At 18:44 07/07/01, Brian McMillion wrote:

    >Anyone know how to get a remote video system and R/C
    >system to work together without interfering with each
    >other. I have a camera and Ramsey Electronic
    >transmitter mounted on a platform controlled by radio
    >control. As long as the video transmitter is off, the
    >R/C functions properlly. The instant the video
    >transmitter is turned on the R/C system functions as
    >if it has a mind of its own. Also I noticed that the
    >picture from the video is affected by the R/C system.
    >I read about a similar system in John Iovine's book
    >"Robots, Androids and Animatrons". Evidently it can be
    >done.
    >Brian

    What frequencies are the two devices using and how far apart are the
    antennas for video and R/C on the robot?

    You can try separating the antennas a bit more and orienting them at right
    angles to each other. The circuitry inside the robot for these two devices
    should also be separated as much as possible.

    You *might* get some improvement by slipping a small ferrite bead over the
    antenna to the R/C receiver, assuming it is receiving a frequency *MUCH*
    lower than the video transmitter is using.

    Alternatives could involve turning off the video transmitter periodically
    and if R/C signals are sensed during that off period, keep it off until R/C
    signals cease being received. How workable that might be depends on how
    dependent the robot is on the R/C controller and how much you like jumpy
    video.

    Good luck,

    Jim H


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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-07-08 04:45
    Video circuits need to be well shielded to prevent interference
    with other circuits and annoying the neighbors.

    Shielding inside VCRs is made of Mu metal (difficult to find unless
    you live in a large city). I have had good luck with metal from an
    ordinary tin can though.

    Cables also need to be shielded, even if they are short in length.
    Avoid ground loops, I.E. try to make all grounds at or near the same
    place.

    Avoid power supplies with a floating ground.
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-07-08 04:55
    What Bill said.

    I might add that you need to figure out if the interference is caused by the
    RC handset, the RC receiver, video transmitter or video receiver. Could be
    any number of strange things.

    Even though the RC and video may be on different transmit and receive
    frequencies, many RF circuits share common intermediate frequencies, which
    can be susceptible to interference.

    Original Message

    > Video circuits need to be well shielded to prevent interference
    > with other circuits and annoying the neighbors.
    >
    > Shielding inside VCRs is made of Mu metal (difficult to find unless
    > you live in a large city). I have had good luck with metal from an
    > ordinary tin can though.
    >
    > Cables also need to be shielded, even if they are short in length.
    > Avoid ground loops, I.E. try to make all grounds at or near the same
    > place.
    >
    > Avoid power supplies with a floating ground.
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-07-08 13:35
    Here is one filter circuit;
    http://www.northcountryradio.com/rcfltr.htm
    Shielding of the camera head may help too along with bypass caps.
    > Anyone know how to get a remote video system and R/C
    > system to work together without interfering with each
    > other. ....................
    > Brian


    Mike DeMetz sect. Michiana R/C Choppers
    miked@t...
    http://sites.netscape.net/mdemetz
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-07-08 18:35
    If your application doesn't need much range I can suggest trying an IR
    controller instead of an RF one, it wouldn't interfere as much.


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