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IR/555 Timer Question????

ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2001-06-29 23:32 in General Discussion
Hello everyone?

Does anyone have a diagram/schematic of the IR Detector and 555 Timer
circuit? I want to be able to detect something that is between 4 and
6 feet away.

Thanks in advance,

Frank G.
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-06-29 11:59
    Glad you asked -- I need one also.

    Original Message

    > Does anyone have a diagram/schematic of the IR Detector and 555 Timer
    > circuit? I want to be able to detect something that is between 4 and
    > 6 feet away.
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-06-29 15:42
    Do it like this:

    Drive an infrared LED with a 555, running at 38Khz (or 36Khz, not
    sure) Anyway, I think 38Khz is the frequency almost all IR remotes
    operate on. Detect the modulated IR with an IR detector module
    (RatShack has 'em) This module will reject everything except IR
    modulated at the correct frequency (again, off the top of my head, I
    think 38Khz)

    The easy way:

    The IR receiver module will output data when it "sees" IR from any IR
    remote you have laying around. This data can be "smoothed" thru a
    cap, buffered through a transistor, and you're done.

    This may be a good opportunity for you guys to play around with the
    Holtek IR encoder/decoder chips (The heart of many remotes and garage
    door openers) The holtek chips come in IR and RF flavors...

    Regards

    Rich

    --- In basicstamps@y..., Rodent <daweasel@s...> wrote:
    > Glad you asked -- I need one also.
    >
    >
    Original Message
    >
    > > Does anyone have a diagram/schematic of the IR Detector and 555
    Timer
    > > circuit? I want to be able to detect something that is between 4
    and
    > > 6 feet away.
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-06-29 15:57
    I think we grasp the concept -- does anyone have a DIAGRAM / SCHEMATIC ??

    *************

    Do it like this:

    Drive an infrared LED with a 555, running at 38Khz (or 36Khz, not
    sure)

    <SNIP!>

    > > Glad you asked -- I need one also.
    > >
    > >
    Original Message
    > >
    > > > Does anyone have a diagram/schematic of the IR Detector and 555
    > Timer
    > > > circuit? I want to be able to detect something that is between 4
    > and
    > > > 6 feet away.
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-06-29 18:28
    If you are using Stamp, maximum IR range is acheived by using a detection
    frequency of 38500. Range can be lowered by moving either side of that
    frequency. If 38500 will not give you the distance you want with your
    present IR transmitter then you need a transmitter with a little more power.
    I don't think using the timer is not going to improve your distance because
    you are using it only to generate a frequency.

    Regards
    Sid
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-06-29 18:44
    Yes, I do have the schematics to do this (called a "data sheet").
    Would you like me to build this project for you as well as design it
    for you? You seem like a nice enough guy...

    Sorry, Driving a 555 at 38Khz should not be to challenging. You know
    what, I told you how I would do it. That should have been enough.

    Instead of whining about my not giving you the fine details about
    how to wire a 555, you should be thanking me for taking the time to
    consider, and answer, your query.

    You want to know how to wire a 555, go to ratshack and purchase the
    mini engineers book about 555 applications. Get a datasheet from
    National semiconductor, learn about the chip. The 555 is easy, trust
    me.

    I don't mean to be pompous, I received much help here, but, if you
    consider my suggestions to be good ones, why not make it your
    business to figure out how to use a 555? (one of the most versitale
    chips ever made.) At 1/100 the cost of a BS2 it might really make
    sense someday.

    Next time I'll keep my suggestions to myself.

    Ciao


    --- In basicstamps@y..., Rodent <daweasel@s...> wrote:
    > I think we grasp the concept -- does anyone have a DIAGRAM /
    SCHEMATIC ??
    >
    > *************
    >
    > Do it like this:
    >
    > Drive an infrared LED with a 555, running at 38Khz (or 36Khz, not
    > sure)
    >
    > <SNIP!>
    >
    > > > Glad you asked -- I need one also.
    > > >
    > > >
    Original Message
    > > >
    > > > > Does anyone have a diagram/schematic of the IR Detector and
    555
    > > Timer
    > > > > circuit? I want to be able to detect something that is
    between 4
    > > and
    > > > > 6 feet away.
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-06-29 18:58
    In my case, I want a stand-alone driver for the LEDs because I don't want to
    tie up the processor with this task, especially since its a BS1. Since this
    is for sumo, I'm not really interested in determining range, just where the
    opponent is.


    Original Message

    > If you are using Stamp, maximum IR range is acheived by using a detection
    > frequency of 38500. Range can be lowered by moving either side of that
    > frequency. If 38500 will not give you the distance you want with your
    > present IR transmitter then you need a transmitter with a little more
    power.
    > I don't think using the timer is not going to improve your distance
    because
    > you are using it only to generate a frequency.
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-06-29 19:08
    Keeping your suggestions to yourself sounds good to me. While you're
    designing and building the circuit for me, I have another task you can
    perform... ()()

    One reason we ask these questions is so we don't have to reinvent the
    wheel -- the datasheet is helpful, but there may be other non-standard ways
    of making it work better, not to mention some caveats as to resistor and
    capacitor values.

    As for Radio Shack, I don't believe they still carry the 555 book, and the
    555 cookbook is long out of print.

    And just remember, some of us are not as smart as you think you are...

    Original Message

    > Yes, I do have the schematics to do this (called a "data sheet").
    > Would you like me to build this project for you as well as design it
    > for you? You seem like a nice enough guy...
    >
    > Sorry, Driving a 555 at 38Khz should not be to challenging. You know
    > what, I told you how I would do it. That should have been enough.
    >
    > Instead of whining about my not giving you the fine details about
    > how to wire a 555, you should be thanking me for taking the time to
    > consider, and answer, your query.
    >
    > You want to know how to wire a 555, go to ratshack and purchase the
    > mini engineers book about 555 applications. Get a datasheet from
    > National semiconductor, learn about the chip. The 555 is easy, trust
    > me.
    >
    > I don't mean to be pompous, I received much help here, but, if you
    > consider my suggestions to be good ones, why not make it your
    > business to figure out how to use a 555? (one of the most versitale
    > chips ever made.) At 1/100 the cost of a BS2 it might really make
    > sense someday.
    >
    > Next time I'll keep my suggestions to myself.

    > > I think we grasp the concept -- does anyone have a DIAGRAM /
    > SCHEMATIC ??
    > >
    > > *************
    > >
    > > Do it like this:
    > >
    > > Drive an infrared LED with a 555, running at 38Khz (or 36Khz, not
    > > sure)
    > >
    > > <SNIP!>
    > >
    > > > > Glad you asked -- I need one also.
    > > > >
    > > > >
    Original Message
    > > > >
    > > > > > Does anyone have a diagram/schematic of the IR Detector and
    > 555
    > > > Timer
    > > > > > circuit? I want to be able to detect something that is
    > between 4
    > > > and
    > > > > > 6 feet away.
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-06-29 19:16
    Ok, Ok, guys, calm down out there. We are all friends, right?
    Besides, your making me feel guilty because I'm the one who asked
    this question.
    Hey Rodent, check out this link. I don't know if it will help you.
    But I think it is what I'm looking for.

    http://www.ee.washington.edu/conselec/Sp96/projects/mitchrob/final/fin
    al.htm

    --- In basicstamps@y..., Rodent <daweasel@s...> wrote:
    > Keeping your suggestions to yourself sounds good to me. While you're
    > designing and building the circuit for me, I have another task you
    can
    > perform... ()()
    >
    > One reason we ask these questions is so we don't have to reinvent
    the
    > wheel -- the datasheet is helpful, but there may be other non-
    standard ways
    > of making it work better, not to mention some caveats as to
    resistor and
    > capacitor values.
    >
    > As for Radio Shack, I don't believe they still carry the 555 book,
    and the
    > 555 cookbook is long out of print.
    >
    > And just remember, some of us are not as smart as you think you
    are...
    >
    >
    Original Message
    >
    > > Yes, I do have the schematics to do this (called a "data sheet").
    > > Would you like me to build this project for you as well as design
    it
    > > for you? You seem like a nice enough guy...
    > >
    > > Sorry, Driving a 555 at 38Khz should not be to challenging. You
    know
    > > what, I told you how I would do it. That should have been enough.
    > >
    > > Instead of whining about my not giving you the fine details about
    > > how to wire a 555, you should be thanking me for taking the time
    to
    > > consider, and answer, your query.
    > >
    > > You want to know how to wire a 555, go to ratshack and purchase
    the
    > > mini engineers book about 555 applications. Get a datasheet from
    > > National semiconductor, learn about the chip. The 555 is easy,
    trust
    > > me.
    > >
    > > I don't mean to be pompous, I received much help here, but, if you
    > > consider my suggestions to be good ones, why not make it your
    > > business to figure out how to use a 555? (one of the most
    versitale
    > > chips ever made.) At 1/100 the cost of a BS2 it might really make
    > > sense someday.
    > >
    > > Next time I'll keep my suggestions to myself.
    >
    > > > I think we grasp the concept -- does anyone have a DIAGRAM /
    > > SCHEMATIC ??
    > > >
    > > > *************
    > > >
    > > > Do it like this:
    > > >
    > > > Drive an infrared LED with a 555, running at 38Khz (or 36Khz,
    not
    > > > sure)
    > > >
    > > > <SNIP!>
    > > >
    > > > > > Glad you asked -- I need one also.
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    Original Message
    > > > > >
    > > > > > > Does anyone have a diagram/schematic of the IR Detector
    and
    > > 555
    > > > > Timer
    > > > > > > circuit? I want to be able to detect something that is
    > > between 4
    > > > > and
    > > > > > > 6 feet away.
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-06-29 19:22
    At 14:08 06/29/01, Rodent wrote:

    >One reason we ask these questions is so we don't have to reinvent the
    >wheel -- the datasheet is helpful, but there may be other non-standard ways
    >of making it work better, not to mention some caveats as to resistor and
    >capacitor values.
    >
    >As for Radio Shack, I don't believe they still carry the 555 book, and the
    >555 cookbook is long out of print.
    >
    >And just remember, some of us are not as smart as you think you are...

    Did you look in your Stamp manual? Try page 119 in the Ver 1.8 manual. I
    bet it's still in the Ver 1.9 manual too. This circuit also includes the
    ability to modulate the output of the 555 as a bonus.


    Jim H
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-06-29 19:25
    As far as the detector goes, the Panasonic 4602 looks like the way to go.
    +5, ground and one pin to the Stamp. They are anywhere from $1.35 to $2.60
    in price from several sources including Al Williams and Parallax. If you
    want to use a Stamp to drive the LED you can refer to the Parallax weekend
    deal they had a while back:

    http://www.parallaxinc.com/downloads/Resources/Weekend%20Special%20-%20IR%20
    LED%20&%2040%20kHz%20Detector.PDF

    If the link doesn't work, go to the main Parallax site and search for
    "weekend."


    Original Message

    > Hey Rodent, check out this link. I don't know if it will help you.
    > But I think it is what I'm looking for.
    >
    > http://www.ee.washington.edu/conselec/Sp96/projects/mitchrob/final/fin
    > al.htm
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-06-29 19:35
    Hi,
    I wouldn't - and won't - help any rude idiot...
    Certain members here are now on my "idiot" auto-delete list.
    You know who you are [noparse];)[/noparse]


    Ken



    with enough thrust, pigs fly just fine.





    ---- On Fri, 29 Jun 2001, Rodent (daweasel@s...) wrote:

    > Keeping your suggestions to yourself sounds good to me. While
    you're
    > designing and building the circuit for me, I have another
    task you can
    > perform... ()()
    >
    > One reason we ask these questions is so we don't have to
    reinvent the
    > wheel -- the datasheet is helpful, but there may be other non-
    standard
    > ways
    > of making it work better, not to mention some caveats as to
    resistor and
    > capacitor values.
    >
    > As for Radio Shack, I don't believe they still carry the 555
    book, and
    > the
    > 555 cookbook is long out of print.
    >
    > And just remember, some of us are not as smart as you think
    you are...
    >
    >
    Original Message
    >
    > > Yes, I do have the schematics to do this (called a "data
    sheet").
    > > Would you like me to build this project for you as well as
    design it
    > > for you? You seem like a nice enough guy...
    > >
    > > Sorry, Driving a 555 at 38Khz should not be to challenging.
    You know
    > > what, I told you how I would do it. That should have been
    enough.
    > >
    > > Instead of whining about my not giving you the fine
    details about
    > > how to wire a 555, you should be thanking me for taking the
    time to
    > > consider, and answer, your query.
    > >
    > > You want to know how to wire a 555, go to ratshack and
    purchase the
    > > mini engineers book about 555 applications. Get a datasheet
    from
    > > National semiconductor, learn about the chip. The 555 is
    easy, trust
    > > me.
    > >
    > > I don't mean to be pompous, I received much help here, but,
    if you
    > > consider my suggestions to be good ones, why not make it
    your
    > > business to figure out how to use a 555? (one of the most
    versitale
    > > chips ever made.) At 1/100 the cost of a BS2 it might
    really make
    > > sense someday.
    > >
    > > Next time I'll keep my suggestions to myself.
    >
    > > > I think we grasp the concept -- does anyone have a
    DIAGRAM /
    > > SCHEMATIC ??
    > > >
    > > > *************
    > > >
    > > > Do it like this:
    > > >
    > > > Drive an infrared LED with a 555, running at 38Khz (or
    36Khz, not
    > > > sure)
    > > >
    > > > <SNIP!>
    > > >
    > > > > > Glad you asked -- I need one also.
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    Original Message
    > > > > >
    > > > > > > Does anyone have a diagram/schematic of the IR
    Detector and
    > > 555
    > > > > Timer
    > > > > > > circuit? I want to be able to detect something
    that is
    > > between 4
    > > > > and
    > > > > > > 6 feet away.
    >
    >
    >
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-06-29 19:36
    Quick search of 2.0c Stamp manual does not show it. Is it listed with a
    particular command or in another section?

    Is this the deal that shows you how to tune the frequency of the oscillator
    with a Stamp? I think I ran across it in one of the Stamps In Class
    documents a while back.


    Original Message

    > Did you look in your Stamp manual? Try page 119 in the Ver 1.8 manual. I
    > bet it's still in the Ver 1.9 manual too. This circuit also includes the
    > ability to modulate the output of the 555 as a bonus.
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-06-29 19:39
    For daweasel -

    I think I might have a schematic of the 555 in an ancient Texas Instruments
    manual. If I remember correctly, it shows you how to add external components
    to adjust the frequency. If you need it let me know. If I can find it I
    could scan the page and e-mail it to you.

    Sid Weaver
    Newzed@a...
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-06-29 19:40
    Gracias for the tip...

    Looks like its in the Stamp 1 App Notes v1.9 on page 119.

    Original Message

    > Did you look in your Stamp manual? Try page 119 in the Ver 1.8 manual. I
    > bet it's still in the Ver 1.9 manual too. This circuit also includes the
    > ability to modulate the output of the 555 as a bonus.
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-06-29 19:41
    http://www.andy-clarkson.co.uk/555/

    is a good site on the 555 chip. It'll help you pick resistor and
    capacitor values for whatever frequency you're looking for, and it has
    schematics on there..

    Rory


    > Does anyone have a diagram/schematic of the IR Detector and 555 Timer circuit?
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-06-29 19:47
    I just sit back and smile while you guys figure out ways of making
    fifty dollar microcontrollers do things that could be done with 5
    bucks worth of parts.

    Now before things get more out of hand, my reply to your query was
    intended to be helpful.

    I THINK WE GRASP THE CONCEPT... That's your way of thanking me for
    taking the time to address your query.

    When I needed a hand out here I never asked anyone to write the code
    for me. I did my own research.

    And as for my performing some unmentionable task for you, I would be
    delighted. Make sure to give me a call next time you're around New
    England. Me and you, we'll get together for some coffee...

    What a dope





    --- In basicstamps@y..., Rodent <daweasel@s...> wrote:
    > Keeping your suggestions to yourself sounds good to me. While you're
    > designing and building the circuit for me, I have another task you
    can
    > perform... ()()
    >
    > One reason we ask these questions is so we don't have to reinvent
    the
    > wheel -- the datasheet is helpful, but there may be other non-
    standard ways
    > of making it work better, not to mention some caveats as to
    resistor and
    > capacitor values.
    >
    > As for Radio Shack, I don't believe they still carry the 555 book,
    and the
    > 555 cookbook is long out of print.
    >
    > And just remember, some of us are not as smart as you think you
    are...
    >
    >
    Original Message
    >
    > > Yes, I do have the schematics to do this (called a "data sheet").
    > > Would you like me to build this project for you as well as design
    it
    > > for you? You seem like a nice enough guy...
    > >
    > > Sorry, Driving a 555 at 38Khz should not be to challenging. You
    know
    > > what, I told you how I would do it. That should have been enough.
    > >
    > > Instead of whining about my not giving you the fine details about
    > > how to wire a 555, you should be thanking me for taking the time
    to
    > > consider, and answer, your query.
    > >
    > > You want to know how to wire a 555, go to ratshack and purchase
    the
    > > mini engineers book about 555 applications. Get a datasheet from
    > > National semiconductor, learn about the chip. The 555 is easy,
    trust
    > > me.
    > >
    > > I don't mean to be pompous, I received much help here, but, if you
    > > consider my suggestions to be good ones, why not make it your
    > > business to figure out how to use a 555? (one of the most
    versitale
    > > chips ever made.) At 1/100 the cost of a BS2 it might really make
    > > sense someday.
    > >
    > > Next time I'll keep my suggestions to myself.
    >
    > > > I think we grasp the concept -- does anyone have a DIAGRAM /
    > > SCHEMATIC ??
    > > >
    > > > *************
    > > >
    > > > Do it like this:
    > > >
    > > > Drive an infrared LED with a 555, running at 38Khz (or 36Khz,
    not
    > > > sure)
    > > >
    > > > <SNIP!>
    > > >
    > > > > > Glad you asked -- I need one also.
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    Original Message
    > > > > >
    > > > > > > Does anyone have a diagram/schematic of the IR Detector
    and
    > > 555
    > > > > Timer
    > > > > > > circuit? I want to be able to detect something that is
    > > between 4
    > > > > and
    > > > > > > 6 feet away.
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-06-29 19:48
    Gracias Sid. I've got the spec sheets and stuff already, just need to sit
    down and put the pencil to it and figure out what the component values are.

    Funny how you don't think you'll ever need your old books -- at one time I
    had a 555 cookbook as well as the Radio Shack deal, but they either got
    tossed or piled into the back of the closet a long time ago.

    Looks like the schematic the other guy found may work if you use their
    detector circuit also, but it won't work as is with a 38 khz unit.

    Original Message

    > I think I might have a schematic of the 555 in an ancient Texas
    Instruments
    > manual. If I remember correctly, it shows you how to add external
    components
    > to adjust the frequency. If you need it let me know. If I can find it I
    > could scan the page and e-mail it to you.
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-06-29 19:51
    Gracias. Found that site earlier -- pretty cool.

    Has anyone tried the 50% duty cycle circuit in the National application
    notes?

    Original Message

    > http://www.andy-clarkson.co.uk/555/
    >
    > is a good site on the 555 chip. It'll help you pick resistor and
    > capacitor values for whatever frequency you're looking for, and it has
    > schematics on there..
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-06-29 20:11
    Hi,
    Please don't let that rude infant (probably should change his
    name to "rodent ****" ) deter you from further participation in
    this list. I appreciate the help you offer here, as I'm sure
    99% of the members do...

    Ken Ambrose

    with enough thrust, pigs fly just fine.



    ---- On Fri, 29 Jun 2001, iceninevt@y...
    (iceninevt@y...) wrote:

    > I just sit back and smile while you guys figure out ways of
    making
    > fifty dollar microcontrollers do things that could be done
    with 5
    > bucks worth of parts.
    >
    > Now before things get more out of hand, my reply to your
    query was
    > intended to be helpful.
    >
    > I THINK WE GRASP THE CONCEPT... That's your way of thanking
    me for
    > taking the time to address your query.
    >
    > When I needed a hand out here I never asked anyone to write
    the code
    > for me. I did my own research.
    >
    > And as for my performing some unmentionable task for you, I
    would be
    > delighted. Make sure to give me a call next time you're
    around New
    > England. Me and you, we'll get together for some coffee...
    >
    > What a dope
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > --- In basicstamps@y..., Rodent <daweasel@s...> wrote:
    > > Keeping your suggestions to yourself sounds good to me.
    While you're
    > > designing and building the circuit for me, I have another
    task you
    > can
    > > perform... ()()
    > >
    > > One reason we ask these questions is so we don't have to
    reinvent
    > the
    > > wheel -- the datasheet is helpful, but there may be other
    non-
    > standard ways
    > > of making it work better, not to mention some caveats as to
    > resistor and
    > > capacitor values.
    > >
    > > As for Radio Shack, I don't believe they still carry the
    555 book,
    > and the
    > > 555 cookbook is long out of print.
    > >
    > > And just remember, some of us are not as smart as you think
    you
    > are...
    > >
    > >
    Original Message
    > >
    > > > Yes, I do have the schematics to do this (called a "data
    sheet").
    > > > Would you like me to build this project for you as well
    as design
    > it
    > > > for you? You seem like a nice enough guy...
    > > >
    > > > Sorry, Driving a 555 at 38Khz should not be to
    challenging. You
    > know
    > > > what, I told you how I would do it. That should have been
    enough.
    > > >
    > > > Instead of whining about my not giving you the fine
    details about
    > > > how to wire a 555, you should be thanking me for taking
    the time
    > to
    > > > consider, and answer, your query.
    > > >
    > > > You want to know how to wire a 555, go to ratshack and
    purchase
    > the
    > > > mini engineers book about 555 applications. Get a
    datasheet from
    > > > National semiconductor, learn about the chip. The 555 is
    easy,
    > trust
    > > > me.
    > > >
    > > > I don't mean to be pompous, I received much help here,
    but, if you
    > > > consider my suggestions to be good ones, why not make it
    your
    > > > business to figure out how to use a 555? (one of the most
    > versitale
    > > > chips ever made.) At 1/100 the cost of a BS2 it might
    really make
    > > > sense someday.
    > > >
    > > > Next time I'll keep my suggestions to myself.
    > >
    > > > > I think we grasp the concept -- does anyone have a
    DIAGRAM /
    > > > SCHEMATIC ??
    > > > >
    > > > > *************
    > > > >
    > > > > Do it like this:
    > > > >
    > > > > Drive an infrared LED with a 555, running at 38Khz (or
    36Khz,
    > not
    > > > > sure)
    > > > >
    > > > > <SNIP!>
    > > > >
    > > > > > > Glad you asked -- I need one also.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    Original Message
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > Does anyone have a diagram/schematic of the IR
    Detector
    > and
    > > > 555
    > > > > > Timer
    > > > > > > > circuit? I want to be able to detect something
    that is
    > > > between 4
    > > > > > and
    > > > > > > > 6 feet away.
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-06-29 20:34
    CS MicroSystems has a really nice (free) software application that makes finding
    component values for 555 based oscillator circuits quite painless at:
    http://www.csmicrosystems.com/timerdesigner/index.html

    If you have the equipment to program a small 8-pin PIC12C508, I can provide
    you with the assembly (or .hex) code to build your own 38KHz or 40KHz
    oscillators.
    Very stable, and quite inexpensive.

    Using the 8-pin PIC for a 38kHz or 40kHz oscillator only requires 2 components.
    The PIC, and ceramic oscillator. 555 timer circuits have a tendency to drift.
    The
    PIC oscillators are solid.

    Here's a couple projects that show how these are used with IR LED drive
    circuits:
    http://www.rentron.com/Infrared_Remote_Control.htm

    http://www.rentron.com/Infrared_Communication.htm

    Regards,

    Bruce
    webmaster@r...
    http://www.rentron.com


    Original Message
    From: "Rodent" <daweasel@s...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 12:48 PM
    Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: IR/555 Timer Question????


    > Gracias Sid. I've got the spec sheets and stuff already, just need to sit
    > down and put the pencil to it and figure out what the component values are.
    >
    > Funny how you don't think you'll ever need your old books -- at one time I
    > had a 555 cookbook as well as the Radio Shack deal, but they either got
    > tossed or piled into the back of the closet a long time ago.
    >
    > Looks like the schematic the other guy found may work if you use their
    > detector circuit also, but it won't work as is with a 38 khz unit.
    >
    >
    Original Message
    >
    > > I think I might have a schematic of the 555 in an ancient Texas
    > Instruments
    > > manual. If I remember correctly, it shows you how to add external
    > components
    > > to adjust the frequency. If you need it let me know. If I can find it I
    > > could scan the page and e-mail it to you.
    >
    >
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-06-29 20:39
    For daweasel

    No problem, Dave

    Went looking for the book just in case. It was an old Motorola manual, not
    TI, published in 1979. Indentally, dod you know there is a 556 chip which
    has two 555's on it?

    Best Regards
    Sid
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-06-29 20:45
    Cool -- thanks Bruce. Got a 555 circuit working right now, but the PIC
    solution sounds interesting. I'm not hip on the PIC situation -- any
    suggestions on beginner books?

    Original Message


    > CS MicroSystems has a really nice (free) software application that makes
    finding
    > component values for 555 based oscillator circuits quite painless at:
    > http://www.csmicrosystems.com/timerdesigner/index.html
    >
    > If you have the equipment to program a small 8-pin PIC12C508, I can
    provide
    > you with the assembly (or .hex) code to build your own 38KHz or 40KHz
    oscillators.
    > Very stable, and quite inexpensive.
    >
    > Using the 8-pin PIC for a 38kHz or 40kHz oscillator only requires 2
    components.
    > The PIC, and ceramic oscillator. 555 timer circuits have a tendency to
    drift. The
    > PIC oscillators are solid.
    >
    > Here's a couple projects that show how these are used with IR LED drive
    circuits:
    > http://www.rentron.com/Infrared_Remote_Control.htm
    >
    > http://www.rentron.com/Infrared_Communication.htm
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-06-29 20:49
    Yup. They now have a quad one too, according to what I read... I'll probably
    use a 556 for this application as I want to have a central detector and fire
    a left and right LED to determine direction.

    I think we all had those books at one time or another. Last time I was doing
    electronic stuff we had a whole room full of reference books, including
    stuff on vacuum tubes.

    Original Message

    > Went looking for the book just in case. It was an old Motorola manual,
    not
    > TI, published in 1979. Indentally, dod you know there is a 556 chip which
    > has two 555's on it?
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-06-29 21:01

    Original Message
    From: "Rodent" <daweasel@s...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 1:45 PM
    Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: IR/555 Timer Question????


    > Cool -- thanks Bruce. Got a 555 circuit working right now, but the PIC
    > solution sounds interesting. I'm not hip on the PIC situation -- any
    > suggestions on beginner books?

    David Bensons Easy PIC'n is one of my favorites, and definitely
    a great starting point for someone new to the PIC.
    http://www.rentron.com/books.htm#book3


    Regards,

    Bruce
    webmaster@r...
    http://www.rentron.com
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-06-29 21:30
    I just posted about Peter Anderson's website, like I said he's currently
    not processing orders.

    Just to cover the bases, I've ordered from Rentron too. Excellent
    service with LOTS of PIC information too.

    Kevin (not affiliated with either site, just a satisfied customer)

    "Webmaster@r..." wrote:
    >
    >
    Original Message
    > From: "Rodent" <daweasel@s...>
    > To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    > Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 1:45 PM
    > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: IR/555 Timer Question????
    >
    > > Cool -- thanks Bruce. Got a 555 circuit working right now, but the PIC
    > > solution sounds interesting. I'm not hip on the PIC situation -- any
    > > suggestions on beginner books?
    >
    > David Bensons Easy PIC'n is one of my favorites, and definitely
    > a great starting point for someone new to the PIC.
    > http://www.rentron.com/books.htm#book3
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    > Bruce
    > webmaster@r...
    > http://www.rentron.com
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-06-29 22:35
    I still have the original 1971 Signetics (the folks who invented it) NE555
    data book, but the pages are too yellow to make good copies ;-)
    Mike

    At 03:39 PM 6/29/2001 -0400, you wrote:
    >For daweasel
    >
    >No problem, Dave
    >
    >Went looking for the book just in case. It was an old Motorola manual, not
    >TI, published in 1979. Indentally, dod you know there is a 556 chip which
    >has two 555's on it?
    >
    >Best Regards
    >Sid
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-06-29 22:46
    For walsh@caltech

    Boy, you must be almost as old as I am.

    Sid
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-06-29 23:13
    Sid,
    1971 started as an engineering tech as I finished my degree. Been here
    since. One of these days I'll leave and get a real job.

    I was reminded about not being able to use calculators in college. I had an
    AC theory class final and my boss offered to loan me his HP35 (first
    scientific / RPN calculator) for the exam. WOW! I was going to skate
    through this one! No, my professor nailed me before the exam started and
    told me to pull out my Log-Log K&E. Gee, I miss those days .............. not!
    Mike


    At 05:46 PM 6/29/2001 -0400, you wrote:
    >For walsh@caltech
    >
    >Boy, you must be almost as old as I am.
    >
    >Sid
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-06-29 23:19
    At 14:36 06/29/01, Rodent wrote:
    >Quick search of 2.0c Stamp manual does not show it. Is it listed with a
    >particular command or in another section?
    >
    >Is this the deal that shows you how to tune the frequency of the oscillator
    >with a Stamp? I think I ran across it in one of the Stamps In Class
    >documents a while back.

    It's Application Note #11 titled "Infrared Communications" in my ver 1.8
    Manual.
    Also App Note #12, "Sonar Range Finding."


    Jim H
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-06-29 23:32
    Mike, would you believe I still have a Picket & Eckel log-log, all aluminum.
    That thing must be fifty years old. There was a day when I used it
    constantly as a capacitor design engineer. Ah me, such fond memories.

    Have a nice weekend.

    Sid
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