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Optocouple analog input

ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2001-06-22 17:29 in General Discussion
Hello Group:

Does any one know how can I built a optocouple analog
input?, this input has a range of 0 to 10 V dc.

I appreciate any help.

Thanks.


=====
Alberto Zamora Estrada.
Phone: (506) 220-6736.
Cell: (506) 374-3846.
Fax: (506) 220-8684
Investigaci

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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-06-21 16:50
    You need be more clear. What you intend to interface with what ?
    ACJacques

    Alberto Zamora wrote:
    >
    > Hello Group:
    >
    > Does any one know how can I built a optocouple analog
    > input?, this input has a range of 0 to 10 V dc.
    >
    > I appreciate any help.
    >
    > Thanks.
    >
    > =====
    > Alberto Zamora Estrada.
    > Phone: (506) 220-6736.
    > Cell: (506) 374-3846.
    > Fax: (506) 220-8684
    > Investigaci
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-06-21 18:12
    I'm doing a 8 analog input card, this input has to be
    differential because this card will operate in a plant
    where there are a lot of problems with grounds, the
    signal may vary between 0 and 1 mA, the MUX 8 to 1 and
    the Analog to digital converter is done.

    Thanks.



    --- "A.C.Jacques" <acjacques@i...>
    escribi
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-06-21 18:40
    Alberto,
    Most optically isolated INPUT systems use a pair of analog FET
    opto-isolators. This requires a separate power supply for the front end
    circuitry (usually floating battery pack). A few companies have developed
    these kind of systems with 12 bit converters for use as headstages in
    neurobiological research.
    It might be easier to power a serial converter, send it's output to the
    stamp through a more conventional 6N series opto-isolator.
    Remember, all fully differential measurements are made with three wires!
    Mike


    At 12:12 PM 6/21/2001 -0500, you wrote:
    >I'm doing a 8 analog input card, this input has to be
    >differential because this card will operate in a plant
    >where there are a lot of problems with grounds, the
    >signal may vary between 0 and 1 mA, the MUX 8 to 1 and
    >the Analog to digital converter is done.
    >
    >Thanks.
    >
    >
    >
    >--- "A.C.Jacques" <acjacques@i...>
    >escribi
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-06-21 19:07
    There are a lot of optocouplers with analog inputs, but inputs generally
    are a led that draws 10 ~ 30 mA. Probably you will need a
    buffer/amplifier before to enter the signal in the opto.
    Take a look in optoisolators page at the digikey.com
    ACJacques

    Alberto Zamora wrote:
    >
    > I'm doing a 8 analog input card, this input has to be
    > differential because this card will operate in a plant
    > where there are a lot of problems with grounds, the
    > signal may vary between 0 and 1 mA, the MUX 8 to 1 and
    > the Analog to digital converter is done.
    >
    > Thanks.
    >
    >
    > --- "A.C.Jacques" <acjacques@i...>
    > escribi
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-06-21 21:31
    >Does any one know how can I built a optocouple analog
    >input?, this input has a range of 0 to 10 V dc.

    Agilent makes something for you...

    DESCRIPTION
    The HCNR200 high-linearity analog optocoupler consists of a high-performance
    AlGaAs LED that illuminates two closely matched photodiodes. The input
    photodiode can be used to monitor, and therefore stabilize, the light
    output of the
    LED. As a result, the nonlinearity and drift characteristics of the LED can be
    virtually eliminated. The output photodiode produces a photocurrent that is
    linearly related to the light output of the LED. The close matching of the
    photodiode and advanced design of the package ensure the high linearity and
    stable gain characteristics of the optocoupler.

    Infineon's IL300 is similar. <www.infineon.com>
    Also look here: http://www.ssousa.com/products/slc800.htm

    Mike Hardwick, for Decade Engineering -- <http://www.decadenet.com>
    Manufacturer of the famous BOB-II Serial Video Text Display Module!
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-06-21 21:35
    Go to www-search.ti.com and search for ISO122. Application notes are
    there to build very good isolators. I built a couple with one ISO122P
    isolator chip, two DCP010515DP isolated power supply chips and eight
    small tantalum capacitors each. Very simple.

    --- In basicstamps@y..., Alberto Zamora <azestrada@y...> wrote:
    > Hello Group:
    >
    > Does any one know how can I built a optocouple analog
    > input?, this input has a range of 0 to 10 V dc.
    >
    > I appreciate any help.
    >
    > Thanks.
    >
    >
    > =====
    > Alberto Zamora Estrada.
    > Phone: (506) 220-6736.
    > Cell: (506) 374-3846.
    > Fax: (506) 220-8684
    > Investigaci
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-06-22 00:43
    On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 10:40:19 -0700 Mike Walsh <walsh@c...> writes:

    clip.....
    > Remember, all fully differential measurements are made with three
    wires!
    > Mike

    Can you elaborate?
    Aaron
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-06-22 17:29
    Aaron,

    Sure. On a truly fully differential voltage measurement, you are measuring
    the difference in voltage potentials between to points relative to a
    reference. If you simply use two wires, all bias currents flowing through
    one input MUST return through the other. The ideal difference amplifier
    used to make this measurement has high (ideally infinite) input impedance.
    Therefore, the input characteristics (mostly input bias currents) will
    cause an error in the measurement.
    One solution, if high input impedance isn't a requirement, is to return
    these currents through resistors to signal ground at each input. Again, a
    mismatch in these resistors will give a I*R voltage error with the input
    bias currents.
    Usually, this doesn't present a problem in a low resolution (12 bits or
    less) application where you are trying to just eliminate common mode noise.
    This is just one of many reasons for using a fully differential
    measurement. Even on low impedance measurements like thermocouple
    amplifiers and bridge amplifier applications, a balanced current return is
    provided to inputs.
    Analog Devices and Burr Brown (TI ????) have good discussions of this on
    their sites. http://www.burrbrown.com/applications/ and
    http://www.analogdevices.com/industry/amplifiers_linear/inAmps.html
    Hope that helps.
    Mike


    At 07:43 PM 6/21/2001 -0400, you wrote:
    >On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 10:40:19 -0700 Mike Walsh <walsh@c...> writes:
    >
    >clip.....
    > > Remember, all fully differential measurements are made with three
    >wires!
    > > Mike
    >
    >Can you elaborate?
    >Aaron
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