Reading code from stamp
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Hi folks,
question:
is there any chance of reading a programm from a stamp and get the basic
code back?
I keep finding old objects that work but I never find the code that i once
put in...
Is there any solution to that?
Please help chaotic artists... ;-)
If you want to know what this is all about check
www.u-winters.de
and have fun!!
Thanx, Uli
question:
is there any chance of reading a programm from a stamp and get the basic
code back?
I keep finding old objects that work but I never find the code that i once
put in...
Is there any solution to that?
Please help chaotic artists... ;-)
If you want to know what this is all about check
www.u-winters.de
and have fun!!
Thanx, Uli
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uli@raumschiff-interactive.de writes:
code back?
Nope.[/font]
At 03:29 PM 5/28/2001 +0200, you wrote:
>Hi folks,
>
>question:
>
>is there any chance of reading a programm from a stamp and get the basic
>code back?
>I keep finding old objects that work but I never find the code that i once
>put in...
>
>Is there any solution to that?
>
>Please help chaotic artists... ;-)
>
>If you want to know what this is all about check
>
>www.u-winters.de
>
>and have fun!!
>
>
>Thanx, Uli
>
>
>
>
>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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haven't seen a tool that uses reverse engineering to make it readable for humans
though...
Hans Luyten
Webmaster http://www.weethet.nl
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From: uli@r...
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Sent: maandag 28 mei 2001 15:30
To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Reading code from stamp
Hi folks,
question:
is there any chance of reading a programm from a stamp and get the basic
code back?
I keep finding old objects that work but I never find the code that i once
put in...
Is there any solution to that?
Please help chaotic artists... ;-)
If you want to know what this is all about check
www.u-winters.de
and have fun!!
Thanx, Uli
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smartcard programmers for illegal satellite cards - it takes about $50 for a
complete build programmer).
The only problem you will have is to convert the binary data back to basic...
Original Message
From: uli@r...
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Sent: woensdag 6 juni 2001 10:03
To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
Subject: AW: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Reading code from stamp
too bad...
do you think it is impossible or just nobody did it yet?
thanx and greetings, uli
www.raumschiff-interactive.de
Urspr
extract the code from a stamp ?. If a person was clever enough to do this,
surely they could write the code themselves to do the same as what the stamp
is allready doing. Or have I missed the point somewhere ??
Regards, Chris
Original Message
From: Hans Luyten (ETM) <hans.luyten@e...>
To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 6:14 PM
Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Reading code from stamp
I know you can read it using a regular PIC programmer (as seen with those
cheap smartcard programmers for illegal satellite cards - it takes about $50
for a complete build programmer).
The only problem you will have is to convert the binary data back to
basic...
Original Message
From: uli@r...
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Sent: woensdag 6 juni 2001 10:03
To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
Subject: AW: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Reading code from stamp
too bad...
do you think it is impossible or just nobody did it yet?
thanx and greetings, uli
www.raumschiff-interactive.de
Urspr
like to create a second one ?
Original Message
From: Chris Anderson [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=ynnlQOd1nx7qns4DO4LN9KdXkt9vDvwfX3OV_gL6TALEwKEXYQ1-doNyKSEMrWTnmArptARmOfg]fes@g...[/url
Sent: woensdag 6 juni 2001 13:51
To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Reading code from stamp
It may be a silly question, but is there a legitimate reason for wanting to
extract the code from a stamp ?. If a person was clever enough to do this,
surely they could write the code themselves to do the same as what the stamp
is allready doing. Or have I missed the point somewhere ??
Regards, Chris
Original Message
From: Hans Luyten (ETM) <hans.luyten@e...>
To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 6:14 PM
Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Reading code from stamp
I know you can read it using a regular PIC programmer (as seen with those
cheap smartcard programmers for illegal satellite cards - it takes about $50
for a complete build programmer).
The only problem you will have is to convert the binary data back to
basic...
Original Message
From: uli@r...
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Sent: woensdag 6 juni 2001 10:03
To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
Subject: AW: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Reading code from stamp
too bad...
do you think it is impossible or just nobody did it yet?
thanx and greetings, uli
www.raumschiff-interactive.de
Urspr
your code. The SX chips give you the choice of protecting your code on the
chip.
Regards, Chris
if Parallax doesn't sell it!
Original Message
What if you create a nice gadget, lost the original source code but still
would like to create a second one ?
Original Message
It may be a silly question, but is there a legitimate reason for wanting to
extract the code from a stamp ?. If a person was clever enough to do this,
surely they could write the code themselves to do the same as what the stamp
is allready doing. Or have I missed the point somewhere ??
copy and a hard copy of it and to keep track of revisions, etc...
Original Message
> the world cannot be full of geniuses like you that never lose a code...
> I am not one of them. Very sorry,
> read it back from the SX? If not, what does protection mean then?
>
> curious, uli
With the SX chips (not bs2sx, but Scenix / Ubicom SX that Parallax sell)
when you load your code to the chip, you have the option of protecting your
code. If you protect it, the only information readable is the ID name you
give it. If you don't protect it, any person with an sx-key programmer can
view the machine code on the chip.
If you want to find out about viewing code on a stamp, a long while ago I
found a web-page where a person supposedly had worked it all out. I don't
remember where it was, but it may still be out there somewhere.
Regards,
Chris
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Sent: woensdag 6 juni 2001 16:34
To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Reading code from stamp
Then you're an idiot for not archiving the code. Must not be a need for it
if Parallax doesn't sell it!
Original Message
What if you create a nice gadget, lost the original source code but still
would like to create a second one ?
Original Message
It may be a silly question, but is there a legitimate reason for wanting to
extract the code from a stamp ?. If a person was clever enough to do this,
surely they could write the code themselves to do the same as what the stamp
is allready doing. Or have I missed the point somewhere ??
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Rgds, Chris
http://www.mcmanis.com/chuck/robotics/stamp-decode.html
> hey chris, thanks for the hint, I will go hunting for that page tonight.
>
> www.raumschiff-interactive.de
Well, I don't want to tread into this pissing match, but I did want to point
out that hard drives crash all the time. It's a fact of life. You have
several options:
1) Burn a CD
2) Print it out
3) Put on floppy
4) Jaz drive (or equiv)
5) Put it on another machine
6) Get a raid card with a mimimum of mirroring turned on
7) Pay for off site storage of backup tapes
8) Store it on an internet storage site (like maybe fusion one ????)
.... yada yada ....
You get the idea ... if you truly need to be able to find it, once done with
the project, put it in an "archive" directory. Then save this directory all
over the place in case one place dies. Consider off site storage as well in
case your house burns down.
I work from a laptop that get's lots of abuse. You can bet your rear I dump
things on the server often (actually, not often enough ... need to get one
of those background file sync programs that does it while I am not watching
[noparse]:)[/noparse] .... I've lost a full weeks worth of work and boy you can bet I was
pissed (and learned how to back things up often [noparse]:)[/noparse] ...
Take care!
John