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AW: [basicstamps] chip card reading

ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2001-05-15 07:55 in General Discussion
thanx very much,

seems to be very complicated after all...
maybe i should be looking for a standalone reader that sends rs242 to my
stamp...

still, if you have more information please let me know.

thanx again, uli

www.raumschiff-interactive.de

Urspr

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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-05-09 19:27
    Your welcome, I am very interested in
    the prospect of attaching a stand alone reader to a stamp,
    although I have very little time to work on it.

    What do you intend to use the smart card for?

    I personaly would like to make a simple door lock
    that is unlocked by a smartcard - as a starting point.
    -store a pin code on card, door reader/stamp checks pin code - unlocks
    deadbolt..something like that.

    -Ryan


    > thanx very much,
    >
    > seems to be very complicated after all...
    > maybe i should be looking for a standalone reader that sends rs242 to
    > my
    > stamp...
    >
    > still, if you have more information please let me know.
    >
    > thanx again, uli
    >
    > www.raumschiff-interactive.de
    >
    >
    Urspr
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-05-11 07:42
    Uli
    In Belgium, and I suppose in Germany too, a serial chip card reader is proposed
    by the banks in order to authentify the transactions from home or office.
    This device is called C-ZAM and cost about 30(= , including VAT.
    I have ordered one but not yet received.
    Regards
    ECO
    Original Message
    From: <uli@r...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: jeudi 10 mai 2001 13:53
    Subject: AW: AW: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] chip card reading


    > I am planning on an access-system for a fair-stand, people put in their own
    > smartcard and are recognized during their stay, something like that...
    >
    > there are complete solutions like access systems, but they are expensive and
    > not flexible, i want my own software! ;-)
    >
    > I will tell you if i can find a stand-alone reader/writer that can
    > communicate over rs232, if you have any further ideas, just tell me
    >
    > greetings, uli
    >
    > www.raumschiff-interactive.de
    >
    >
    Urspr
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-05-11 15:00
    I can see the ads now....a 19 year old in MTV hair and garb sitting at their
    PC by a window overlooking the Grand Place- ancient Roman cobblestones and
    all - inserting a smart card, er, uh..C-ZAM..into a reader while making a
    purchase onlne.....

    Realistically, the smart card was proposed in a big way here about 4 years
    ago due to the large proportion of fraudulent Internet credit card
    transactions that are considered "card absent". Every now and then I read of
    someone introducing a 1/2 slot reader w/ software for PC's, and even
    fingerprint technology with a small touch sensor has been 'perfected' but
    the PC makers never seem to adopt the idea. Most consultants are teaching a
    new 'good practice' for eliminating much of this kind of fraud, such as
    verifying orders over X dollars, and considering late night / early morning
    orders more suspect...or...Perhaps the recent slump in PC sales has hindered
    the new tools from being adopted. There are a number of patents issued for
    this type of tool already...

    Question, though: is the cost of the C-ZAM 30 BF, or dollars?
    Chris

    >
    Original Message
    > From: ECO [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=OEs1yma4sA-ZVvFd3QoHaStburn-rxEDiMx48DEHJ-_3EUeOUa28kts3Cs_odWd1ZmtajnPTX2NHsz1kpg]ecourt@b...[/url
    > Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 2:43 AM
    > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: Re: AW: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] chip card reading
    >
    >
    > Uli
    > In Belgium, and I suppose in Germany too, a serial chip card
    > reader is proposed
    > by the banks in order to authentify the transactions from
    > home or office.
    > This device is called C-ZAM and cost about 30(= , including VAT.
    > I have ordered one but not yet received.
    > Regards
    > ECO
    >
    Original Message
    > From: <uli@r...>
    > To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    > Sent: jeudi 10 mai 2001 13:53
    > Subject: AW: AW: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] chip card reading
    >
    >
    > > I am planning on an access-system for a fair-stand, people
    > put in their own
    > > smartcard and are recognized during their stay, something
    > like that...
    > >
    > > there are complete solutions like access systems, but they
    > are expensive and
    > > not flexible, i want my own software! ;-)
    > >
    > > I will tell you if i can find a stand-alone reader/writer that can
    > > communicate over rs232, if you have any further ideas, just tell me
    > >
    > > greetings, uli
    > >
    > > www.raumschiff-interactive.de
    > >
    > >
    Urspr
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-05-11 15:05
    I think the free shipping and shipping orders a piece at a time will be the
    downfall of web sales. A friend of mine ordered about $60 / 12 items worth
    of stuff from drugstore.com and has received 6 packages so far. Several were
    8 x 10 x 4 boxes containing one package of cold medicine. I know its gotta
    cost them $3-4 per package to ship -- how can they make a profit.

    By the way, some online companies now require you to key in the three digits
    on the back of the credit card to verify you actually have it.

    Original Message
    From: "Chris Loiacono (E-mail)" <chris01@t...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 9:00 AM
    Subject: RE: AW: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] chip card reading


    > I can see the ads now....a 19 year old in MTV hair and garb sitting at
    their
    > PC by a window overlooking the Grand Place- ancient Roman cobblestones and
    > all - inserting a smart card, er, uh..C-ZAM..into a reader while making a
    > purchase onlne.....
    >
    > Realistically, the smart card was proposed in a big way here about 4 years
    > ago due to the large proportion of fraudulent Internet credit card
    > transactions that are considered "card absent". Every now and then I read
    of
    > someone introducing a 1/2 slot reader w/ software for PC's, and even
    > fingerprint technology with a small touch sensor has been 'perfected' but
    > the PC makers never seem to adopt the idea. Most consultants are teaching
    a
    > new 'good practice' for eliminating much of this kind of fraud, such as
    > verifying orders over X dollars, and considering late night / early
    morning
    > orders more suspect...or...Perhaps the recent slump in PC sales has
    hindered
    > the new tools from being adopted. There are a number of patents issued for
    > this type of tool already...
    >
    > Question, though: is the cost of the C-ZAM 30 BF, or dollars?
    > Chris
    >
    > >
    Original Message
    > > From: ECO [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=_909HDZ7gZmc8Ev3XuZGf8F1usl65-Ps_eh3-qG50GioxVJFguyEPrW30Deuq3sYX_0RWw9wG5ZbUd9m]ecourt@b...[/url
    > > Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 2:43 AM
    > > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > > Subject: Re: AW: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] chip card reading
    > >
    > >
    > > Uli
    > > In Belgium, and I suppose in Germany too, a serial chip card
    > > reader is proposed
    > > by the banks in order to authentify the transactions from
    > > home or office.
    > > This device is called C-ZAM and cost about 30(= , including VAT.
    > > I have ordered one but not yet received.
    > > Regards
    > > ECO
    > >
    Original Message
    > > From: <uli@r...>
    > > To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    > > Sent: jeudi 10 mai 2001 13:53
    > > Subject: AW: AW: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] chip card reading
    > >
    > >
    > > > I am planning on an access-system for a fair-stand, people
    > > put in their own
    > > > smartcard and are recognized during their stay, something
    > > like that...
    > > >
    > > > there are complete solutions like access systems, but they
    > > are expensive and
    > > > not flexible, i want my own software! ;-)
    > > >
    > > > I will tell you if i can find a stand-alone reader/writer that can
    > > > communicate over rs232, if you have any further ideas, just tell me
    > > >
    > > > greetings, uli
    > > >
    > > > www.raumschiff-interactive.de
    > > >
    > > >
    Urspr
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-05-11 17:42
    yep VERY anoying when I am at work and I find something on teh net I wana
    buy and dont have CC on me.... grrr

    > By the way, some online companies now require you to key in the three
    digits
    > on the back of the credit card to verify you actually have it.
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-05-12 10:36
    Uli
    (= is a failed trial to make an Euro symbol.
    The price is about 30 Euros, equivalent to 27 $$ (today!)
    I will inform you ASAP
    ECO

    Original Message
    From: <uli@r...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: vendredi 11 mai 2001 12:56
    Subject: AW: AW: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] chip card reading


    > hey eco,
    >
    > thanx for your advice, will you please tell me what it is like when you get
    > it and also where i can get it?
    > Do you mean 30$ or DM or Franc? ;-) sounds like not expensive!
    >
    > thank you very much for your help!!
    >
    > www.raumschiff-interactive.de
    >
    >
    Urspr
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-05-15 07:55
    Uli
    I fear that it is only sold by the banks to their customers, as far as they
    use this authentification system, at a discounted price in order to promote
    the remote banking.
    Up to now, I did not receive it. When I get it, I will search for a manufacturer
    or distributor name and inform you.
    Regards
    ECO

    Original Message
    From: <uli@r...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: lundi 14 mai 2001 10:03
    Subject: AW: AW: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] chip card reading


    > thanx, ECO
    > i found a lot about c-zam on the web, but no place to buy it or tell me if i
    > can adress it myself...
    >
    >
    > www.raumschiff-interactive.de
    >
    >
    Urspr
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