Freelance Programmers : Some clarifications
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(A) : Some says why we had asked for some deposits....
I had pained a lot to develop a large bunch of source code in various languages on various platforms like BASIC, FORTH, LOGO etc. on ATARI, Commodore, Comex, ZXSpectrum, Aplle, PC and such other systems of early 80s to latest Oracle, JDBC, VB, JAVA, XML etc.. I am working in the field since 1979...
I know what is the value of source code and so I need some deposit· to..
(a) to weed out real workers and (b) If somebody uses my logics at their level at least I get something out of it (and I know most of the persons will use it)
(B) : What is spam I know it very well...
Another important thing is I want to convert my source code in various languages and platforms within 60 days period (and if earlier the better), which is possible only this way...
We are in cyber culture and we must forget all old type of culture that large or small companies should do that and should not do this. We must go there where we find the real workers...
We do not want to invest wrongly in infrastructre and then kick out employees when we do not need. (like at present more than 50000 softwares professional are kicked out by large companies in US alone... why ?? I am giving work to my fellow professionals and safegurading my interests, what is the wrong in it...???)
Who are these so called anti-spammers and well-wishers ????
Most of these well-wishers are great official of great companies who easly kick-out there employees and put them into no-where situation.. Why ??? 'cause these well-wishers are in financial crunch...
Can they show me a single case in which I hadn't paid any of my programmers... ???
Another thing I am not spamming 'cause we are subscribers of same egroups...
Somebody had jammed my emails.... That is not good... That is not democracy...
(C) : Some says I am using free emails...
I have connections from 4 local ISPs at my home and office... and I had paid for it... as some free email services giving more space and better services we use them ... what is the wrong in it ???? I do not understand...
Using different emails for different purposes we can manage our work-force in a proper way... that is our aim...
(D) : I am since 1979 in the field. --- what is source-code --- what is internet --- what is spam, I understand better than any other....
Before putting this project in work I had done a good brain-storming work...
(E) : I need better people that is all...
Bharat Thakkar
Innovative International Institute
F/3, Ten Bungalows,
Polytechnic
Ahmedabad - 380 015
India
I had pained a lot to develop a large bunch of source code in various languages on various platforms like BASIC, FORTH, LOGO etc. on ATARI, Commodore, Comex, ZXSpectrum, Aplle, PC and such other systems of early 80s to latest Oracle, JDBC, VB, JAVA, XML etc.. I am working in the field since 1979...
I know what is the value of source code and so I need some deposit· to..
(a) to weed out real workers and (b) If somebody uses my logics at their level at least I get something out of it (and I know most of the persons will use it)
(B) : What is spam I know it very well...
Another important thing is I want to convert my source code in various languages and platforms within 60 days period (and if earlier the better), which is possible only this way...
We are in cyber culture and we must forget all old type of culture that large or small companies should do that and should not do this. We must go there where we find the real workers...
We do not want to invest wrongly in infrastructre and then kick out employees when we do not need. (like at present more than 50000 softwares professional are kicked out by large companies in US alone... why ?? I am giving work to my fellow professionals and safegurading my interests, what is the wrong in it...???)
Who are these so called anti-spammers and well-wishers ????
Most of these well-wishers are great official of great companies who easly kick-out there employees and put them into no-where situation.. Why ??? 'cause these well-wishers are in financial crunch...
Can they show me a single case in which I hadn't paid any of my programmers... ???
Another thing I am not spamming 'cause we are subscribers of same egroups...
Somebody had jammed my emails.... That is not good... That is not democracy...
(C) : Some says I am using free emails...
I have connections from 4 local ISPs at my home and office... and I had paid for it... as some free email services giving more space and better services we use them ... what is the wrong in it ???? I do not understand...
Using different emails for different purposes we can manage our work-force in a proper way... that is our aim...
(D) : I am since 1979 in the field. --- what is source-code --- what is internet --- what is spam, I understand better than any other....
Before putting this project in work I had done a good brain-storming work...
(E) : I need better people that is all...
Bharat Thakkar
Innovative International Institute
F/3, Ten Bungalows,
Polytechnic
Ahmedabad - 380 015
India
Comments
You need better people, why don;t you hire a head-hunter and ask them to
find better people? They can reach larger circle than you'd. When you
say, "use my logics". You must be kidding. Source code is the most
easily acquirable asset in this internet world we are living in. Have
you not heard of the concepts of "Open Source". When you build
something, it is bound to be used. For that matter, what makes you think
you OWN all of that source code that you are (supposedly) willing to
convert. You are crapping aren't you? That large amt of source code AND,
is definitely NOT YOURS in all.
So, please give us a break.
Just because, you subscribe to egroups, does not by itself mean that you
are NOT a spammer. It is the respect you give to the context of that
egroup that either makes or unmakes you a spammer.
Most importantly, in this world of economy, you are asking for a
deposit. And, you are giving some stupid reasoning for that. You expect
people to buy that story. Are you out of your knickers man?!! Well, why
don't you give me some deposit and I'll sit *** in a space shuttle and
take you to the moon!! Sounds like a good deal for a $100 - don'it ?!!
And, I'm from India too. I don't recall computers being so popular in
India during 1979. It started budding in the 84's. Your experience must
be a Smile story too. And, don't disgrace our country. Fly a kite
instead. I'm really getting cheesed off, especially now, because you had
mentioned that you are from India and pulling such a stunt. We work hard
to attain a good name here in the US, and people like you feed that to
the roaches by a stunt like this.
I really don't think you understand anything about anything than
anybody. Frankly, You must've really rented out your brains out to
somebody man!!
P.S:
Dear Members of basicstamp eGroups, I'm sorry for my open language in
this conversation. I had to speak out. I must apologize if this had
caused any discomfort.
...Now let's build some BS-II projects
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Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Freelance Programmers : Some clarifications
(A) : Some says why we had asked for some deposits....
I had pained a lot to develop a large bunch of source code in various
languages on various platforms like BASIC, FORTH, LOGO etc. on ATARI,
Commodore, Comex, ZXSpectrum, Aplle, PC and such other systems of early
80s to latest Oracle, JDBC, VB, JAVA, XML etc.. I am working in the
field since 1979...
I know what is the value of source code and so I need some deposit to..
(a) to weed out real workers and (b) If somebody uses my logics at their
level at least I get something out of it (and I know most of the persons
will use it)
(B) : What is spam I know it very well...
Another important thing is I want to convert my source code in various
languages and platforms within 60 days period (and if earlier the
better), which is possible only this way...
We are in cyber culture and we must forget all old type of culture that
large or small companies should do that and should not do this. We must
go there where we find the real workers...
We do not want to invest wrongly in infrastructre and then kick out
employees when we do not need. (like at present more than 50000
softwares professional are kicked out by large companies in US alone...
why ?? I am giving work to my fellow professionals and safegurading my
interests, what is the wrong in it...???)
Who are these so called anti-spammers and well-wishers ????
Most of these well-wishers are great official of great companies who
easly kick-out there employees and put them into no-where situation..
Why ??? 'cause these well-wishers are in financial crunch...
Can they show me a single case in which I hadn't paid any of my
programmers... ???
Another thing I am not spamming 'cause we are subscribers of same
egroups...
Somebody had jammed my emails.... That is not good... That is not
democracy...
(C) : Some says I am using free emails...
I have connections from 4 local ISPs at my home and office... and I had
paid for it... as some free email services giving more space and better
services we use them ... what is the wrong in it ???? I do not
understand...
Using different emails for different purposes we can manage our
work-force in a proper way... that is our aim...
(D) : I am since 1979 in the field. --- what is source-code --- what is
internet --- what is spam, I understand better than any other....
Before putting this project in work I had done a good brain-storming
work...
(E) : I need better people that is all...
Bharat Thakkar
Innovative International Institute
F/3, Ten Bungalows,
Polytechnic
Ahmedabad - 380 015
India
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--- In basicstamps@y..., "Nagi Babu" <nags@c...> wrote:
> Hey Bharat Thakkar fella,
>
> You need better people, why don;t you hire a head-hunter and ask
them to
> find better people? They can reach larger circle than you'd. When
you
> say, "use my logics". You must be kidding. Source code is the most
> easily acquirable asset in this internet world we are living in.
Have
> you not heard of the concepts of "Open Source". When you build
> something, it is bound to be used. For that matter, what makes you
think
> you OWN all of that source code that you are (supposedly) willing to
> convert. You are crapping aren't you? That large amt of source code
AND,
> is definitely NOT YOURS in all.
>
> So, please give us a break.
>
> Just because, you subscribe to egroups, does not by itself mean
that you
> are NOT a spammer. It is the respect you give to the context of that
> egroup that either makes or unmakes you a spammer.
>
> Most importantly, in this world of economy, you are asking for a
> deposit. And, you are giving some stupid reasoning for that. You
expect
> people to buy that story. Are you out of your knickers man?!! Well,
why
> don't you give me some deposit and I'll sit *** in a space shuttle
and
> take you to the moon!! Sounds like a good deal for a $100 -
don'it ?!!
>
> And, I'm from India too. I don't recall computers being so popular
in
> India during 1979. It started budding in the 84's. Your experience
must
> be a Smile story too. And, don't disgrace our country. Fly a kite
> instead. I'm really getting cheesed off, especially now, because
you had
> mentioned that you are from India and pulling such a stunt. We work
hard
> to attain a good name here in the US, and people like you feed that
to
> the roaches by a stunt like this.
>
> I really don't think you understand anything about anything than
> anybody. Frankly, You must've really rented out your brains out to
> somebody man!!
>
>
> P.S:
> Dear Members of basicstamp eGroups, I'm sorry for my open language
in
> this conversation. I had to speak out. I must apologize if this had
> caused any discomfort.
>
>
> ...Now let's build some BS-II projects
> [noparse]:)[/noparse]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Original Message
> From: Innovative International Institute
> [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:innovativeinstitute@s...]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 12:44 PM
> To: elliot@u...; perl-beginner@y...;
> basicstamps@y...; bschwabe@a...;
> comdeveloper@y...; dohays@a...;
> ACEWAREZ@y...; theresaradke@c...;
> COLOS_Linux@y...; dave@q...
> Cc: damon@d...; chilton@t...; typon@a...;
> batchell@i...; nbajammer@r...; tunatunup2000@y...;
> sknutson@l...; fresher_papers@y...
> Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Freelance Programmers : Some clarifications
>
>
>
> (A) : Some says why we had asked for some deposits....
>
> I had pained a lot to develop a large bunch of source code in
various
> languages on various platforms like BASIC, FORTH, LOGO etc. on
ATARI,
> Commodore, Comex, ZXSpectrum, Aplle, PC and such other systems of
early
> 80s to latest Oracle, JDBC, VB, JAVA, XML etc.. I am working in the
> field since 1979...
>
> I know what is the value of source code and so I need some deposit
to..
> (a) to weed out real workers and (b) If somebody uses my logics at
their
> level at least I get something out of it (and I know most of the
persons
> will use it)
>
> (B) : What is spam I know it very well...
>
> Another important thing is I want to convert my source code in
various
> languages and platforms within 60 days period (and if earlier the
> better), which is possible only this way...
>
> We are in cyber culture and we must forget all old type of culture
that
> large or small companies should do that and should not do this. We
must
> go there where we find the real workers...
>
> We do not want to invest wrongly in infrastructre and then kick out
> employees when we do not need. (like at present more than 50000
> softwares professional are kicked out by large companies in US
alone...
> why ?? I am giving work to my fellow professionals and safegurading
my
> interests, what is the wrong in it...???)
>
> Who are these so called anti-spammers and well-wishers ????
>
> Most of these well-wishers are great official of great companies who
> easly kick-out there employees and put them into no-where
situation..
> Why ??? 'cause these well-wishers are in financial crunch...
>
> Can they show me a single case in which I hadn't paid any of my
> programmers... ???
>
>
> Another thing I am not spamming 'cause we are subscribers of same
> egroups...
>
> Somebody had jammed my emails.... That is not good... That is not
> democracy...
>
> (C) : Some says I am using free emails...
>
> I have connections from 4 local ISPs at my home and office... and I
had
> paid for it... as some free email services giving more space and
better
> services we use them ... what is the wrong in it ???? I do not
> understand...
>
> Using different emails for different purposes we can manage our
> work-force in a proper way... that is our aim...
>
> (D) : I am since 1979 in the field. --- what is source-code ---
what is
> internet --- what is spam, I understand better than any other....
>
> Before putting this project in work I had done a good brain-storming
> work...
>
> (E) : I need better people that is all...
>
>
>
> Bharat Thakkar
> Innovative International Institute
> F/3, Ten Bungalows,
> Polytechnic
> Ahmedabad - 380 015
> India
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Service.