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Sink or Source

ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2001-04-19 00:20 in General Discussion
Hi

Hope this is not a daft question.

Can some one provide for me a simple definition of what Sinking
Current or Sourcing Current is actually doing to an IC Output (eg
Stamp Output Pins) when it Sinks or Sources, then I can descide if I
should be Sinking or Sourcing?

Thanks

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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-04-18 12:20
    Chris,

    Just think of sourcing as "supplying". In the source mode, the I/O
    pin would supply the current to the device connected - example LED,
    so that when the I/O pin was set to high, it would go to 5V and
    supply the connected LED.

    Sinking can be thought of as "receiving". In sink mode, the I/O pin
    would receive the current from the connected device and route it to
    ground, so when the pin was set to low, it would go essentially to 0V
    and supply a route to ground to activate the device.

    A simplistic explanation, but hopefully cleared up your question.

    Regards, John.

    --- In basicstamps@y..., Christopher_Hill@M... wrote:
    > Hi
    >
    > Hope this is not a daft question.
    >
    > Can some one provide for me a simple definition of what Sinking
    > Current or Sourcing Current is actually doing to an IC Output (eg
    > Stamp Output Pins) when it Sinks or Sources, then I can descide if
    I
    > should be Sinking or Sourcing?
    >
    > Thanks
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-04-18 12:56
    Source makes the IC (stamp) supply power to a device to power it.

    Sinking switches the ground for a device. (The device gets it's
    power elsewhere)

    > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > From: Christopher_Hill@M...
    > Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:51:32 -0000
    > Reply-to: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Sink or Source

    > Hi
    >
    > Hope this is not a daft question.
    >
    > Can some one provide for me a simple definition of what Sinking
    > Current or Sourcing Current is actually doing to an IC Output (eg
    > Stamp Output Pins) when it Sinks or Sources, then I can descide if I
    > should be Sinking or Sourcing?
    >
    > Thanks
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
    >
    >
    >
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-04-18 13:01
    Hi Christopher,

    A device is said to be either sinking or sourcing current, depending
    upon which way the current flow is set up.

    For example: If you set up a configuration wherein an NPN transistor
    is connected with its emitter tied to dc ground, and its collector tied
    to a motor, and the motor's other lead tied to the positive power supply,
    you would say that the transistor is "sinking" current, as the flow is
    going through the transistor to ground.

    Another way of looking at it, would be for the transistor to be a PNP
    type, and have its emitter tied to the positive rail and collector to the motor
    lead. In this setup, the transistor is said to be "sourcing" the current to
    the motor, since it itself is connected to the positive rail (the source).

    Hope this cleared things up a bit.

    Russ




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    | Hi
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    | Hope this is not a daft question.
    |
    | Can some one provide for me a simple definition of what Sinking
    | Current or Sourcing Current is actually doing to an IC Output (eg
    | Stamp Output Pins) when it Sinks or Sources, then I can descide if I
    | should be Sinking or Sourcing?
    |
    | Thanks
    |
    |
    |
    |
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-04-18 13:54
    If you have a choice between using a Stamp pin as a sink or a source - lots
    of times you do by varying the attached circuit - consider the following:
    most microcontrollers, like the Stamp, can sink more current through their
    pins, in aggregate, than they can source. I don't have the exact figures for
    the Stamp at my fingertips - perhaps someone else does?

    Michael.

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    Hi

    Hope this is not a daft question.

    Can some one provide for me a simple definition of what Sinking
    Current or Sourcing Current is actually doing to an IC Output (eg
    Stamp Output Pins) when it Sinks or Sources, then I can descide if I
    should be Sinking or Sourcing?

    Thanks




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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-04-18 14:15
    > Just think of sourcing as "supplying". In the source mode, the I/O
    > pin would supply the current to the device connected - example LED,
    > so that when the I/O pin was set to high, it would go to 5V and
    > supply the connected LED.
    >
    > Sinking can be thought of as "receiving". In sink mode, the I/O pin
    > would receive the current from the connected device and route it to
    > ground, so when the pin was set to low, it would go essentially to 0V
    > and supply a route to ground to activate the device.

    This is what I tell my students. It will become a quiz question this week.

    Paul
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-04-18 20:17
    >Can some one provide for me a simple definition of what Sinking
    >Current or Sourcing Current is actually doing to an IC Output (eg
    >Stamp Output Pins) when it Sinks or Sources, then I can descide if I
    >should be Sinking or Sourcing?
    >

    Here's a simple working definition, summarizing the previous posts:

    Assume a Stamp I/O pin is set as an Output.
    The pin can be set either High (+5V), or Low (0V, "ground").
    If the pin is set High, it acts as a current "source", supplying current to
    whatever external circuitry it's attached to.
    If the pin is set Low, it acts as a current "sink", basically providing a
    "ground" for whatever external circuitry it's attached to.

    Example:

    "Source"
    Stamp Pin set High
    /\/\/\/\/
    >|----[noparse][[/noparse]ground]
    470 ohms LED

    "Sink"
    Stamp Pin set Low
    /\/\/\/\/
    |<----[noparse][[/noparse]+5 volts]
    470 ohms LED

    In the source mode, the LED lights when the pin is set High.
    In the sink mode, the LED lights when the pin is set Low.

    Since you can operate the LED in either mode, the choice of sourcing or
    sinking often depends on how much current is required. For many devices,
    they can sink more current than they can source, which would lead you to
    choose sink mode. Hope this helps.

    steve

    Steve Roberts: sroberts@s...
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-04-19 00:20
    In the water current analogy, it always goes from the source to the sink!


    On Wed, 18 Apr 2001 john_trinca@h... wrote:

    > Chris,
    >
    > Just think of sourcing as "supplying". In the source mode, the I/O
    > pin would supply the current to the device connected - example LED,
    > so that when the I/O pin was set to high, it would go to 5V and
    > supply the connected LED.
    >
    > Sinking can be thought of as "receiving". In sink mode, the I/O pin
    > would receive the current from the connected device and route it to
    > ground, so when the pin was set to low, it would go essentially to 0V
    > and supply a route to ground to activate the device.
    >
    > A simplistic explanation, but hopefully cleared up your question.
    >
    > Regards, John.
    >
    > --- In basicstamps@y..., Christopher_Hill@M... wrote:
    > > Hi
    > >
    > > Hope this is not a daft question.
    > >
    > > Can some one provide for me a simple definition of what Sinking
    > > Current or Sourcing Current is actually doing to an IC Output (eg
    > > Stamp Output Pins) when it Sinks or Sources, then I can descide if
    > I
    > > should be Sinking or Sourcing?
    > >
    > > Thanks
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
    >
    >
    >

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