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Very Urgent : Require Freelance programmers

ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2001-04-18 17:32 in General Discussion
Dear List Member

We require FREELANCE PROGRAMMERS OF VARIOUS SKILL SETS...

WORK AT HOME OPPORTUNITY -- ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD...

We are a group of companies dealing in Software development since last 20
years. During our journey of 20 years in this field we had developed more than
2000 routines and full applications which comprises of about 5 million lines
of source code.

NOW WE WANT TO CONVERT THESE 5 MILLION LINES OF SOURCE CODE INTO ONE
PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE TO ANOTHER....

WE PAY ACCORDING TO SKILL SET INVOLVED

YOU NEED NOT LEAVE YOUR PLACE OR JOB... WORK IN YOUR SPARE TIME...

YOU MUST FULFILL OUR REQUIREMENTS AND CRITERIA....

It is three stage process to get in...

FIRST : You need to send your detailed Resume as detailed below
SECOND : If you are selected
--- you will be asked to enter into a specific agreement
--- you need to deposit some amounts
and some other criteria we will ask you to fulfill.
THIRD : As soon as you fulfill our crietria we will start to send you the work
according to our agreement.

If you are interested follow the instructions below...

FIRST STEP

Send your detailed resume in TEXT FORMAT ONLY TO E-mail
innovativeinstitute2@o...?subject=Interested_A and must include
following DATA... [noparse][[/noparse]DO NOT REPLY THIS E-MAIL]

START
Name
Address (in detail)
Birth Date
Educational Qualifications
Professional Qualifications
Project Involvement
Language Conversion Skill Set Detail.
e.g.
I can Convert....

C To Java
C++ To Java
BASICA To C
FoxPro To XML

etc...

Time you spare for us : ______ hours per week
You get this information from :
END

Note : IF YOU FILL THAT THIS IS NEEDFUL FOR ANY OF YOUR FRIEND, PLEASE SEND
HIM/HER...


Bharat Thakkar
Director
Innovative International Institute

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Comments

  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-04-17 23:27
    At 06:20 PM 4/17/01 -0400, you wrote:
    >Dear List Member
    >
    >We require FREELANCE PROGRAMMERS OF VARIOUS SKILL SETS...
    >
    >WORK AT HOME OPPORTUNITY -- ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD...

    (snip)

    >FIRST : You need to send your detailed Resume as detailed below
    >SECOND : If you are selected
    > --- you will be asked to enter into a specific agreement
    > --- you need to deposit some amounts
    > and some other criteria we will ask you to fulfill.
    >THIRD : As soon as you fulfill our crietria we will start to send you the
    >work
    >according to our agreement.

    (snip)

    This sounds very DANGEROUS! ... use !EXTREME! caution if anyone decides
    to do this and send money?!! <<-- That sounds VERY WRONG!! I wouldn't
    advise anyone to do this! Signing an agreement is one thing, An employer
    asking for money should send up red flags.




    Beau Schwabe IC Mask Designer
    National Semiconductor Network Products Division
    500 Pinnacle Court, Suite 525 Mail Stop GA1 Norcross, GA 30071
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-04-17 23:37
    I can convert HOT AIR into MONEY....duh!!

    The part I really like is the ...you need to deposit some amounts...this is
    an innovative form of employment, please pay me money, do the work, then
    we'll see if I pay you!

    That's the way we could end ANY recession...

    Cheers all,

    Mike

    > FIRST : You need to send your detailed Resume as detailed below
    > SECOND : If you are selected
    > --- you will be asked to enter into a specific agreement
    > --- you need to deposit some amounts
    > and some other criteria we will ask you to fulfill.
    > THIRD : As soon as you fulfill our crietria we will start to send
    > you the work
    > according to our agreement.
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-04-17 23:39
    What a scam!

    They want to hire you, but you have to pay money?

    Check out the item below:


    Original Message

    -- snip --

    > SECOND : If you are selected
    > --- you will be asked to enter into a specific agreement
    > --- you need to deposit some amounts
    > and some other criteria we will ask you to fulfill.

    -- snip --
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-04-17 23:51
    It's just spam. I've already fired a copy off to abuse@yahoogroups.com
    about it.



    On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Beau Schwabe wrote:

    > At 06:20 PM 4/17/01 -0400, you wrote:
    > >Dear List Member
    > >
    > >We require FREELANCE PROGRAMMERS OF VARIOUS SKILL SETS...
    > >
    > >WORK AT HOME OPPORTUNITY -- ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD...
    >
    > (snip)
    >
    > >FIRST : You need to send your detailed Resume as detailed below
    > >SECOND : If you are selected
    > > --- you will be asked to enter into a specific agreement
    > > --- you need to deposit some amounts
    > > and some other criteria we will ask you to fulfill.
    > >THIRD : As soon as you fulfill our crietria we will start to send you the
    > >work
    > >according to our agreement.
    >
    > (snip)
    >
    > This sounds very DANGEROUS! ... use !EXTREME! caution if anyone decides
    > to do this and send money?!! <<-- That sounds VERY WRONG!! I wouldn't
    > advise anyone to do this! Signing an agreement is one thing, An employer
    > asking for money should send up red flags.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Beau Schwabe IC Mask Designer
    > National Semiconductor Network Products Division
    > 500 Pinnacle Court, Suite 525 Mail Stop GA1 Norcross, GA 30071
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
    >
    >
    >
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-04-18 00:09
    I tracked it to Opera Software, which is a legit organization. However, when
    I sent them a nasty note, it signed me up to download their products. Go
    figure.

    Original Message


    > It's just spam. I've already fired a copy off to abuse@yahoogroups.com
    > about it.

    > > >We require FREELANCE PROGRAMMERS OF VARIOUS SKILL SETS...
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-04-18 00:58
    At 06:27 PM 4/17/01 -0400, Beau Schwabe wrote:
    >At 06:20 PM 4/17/01 -0400, you wrote:
    > >Dear List Member
    > >
    > >We require FREELANCE PROGRAMMERS OF VARIOUS SKILL SETS...
    > >

    This is SPAM. If you subscribe to one of the spam reporting groups, please
    send that message (with complete headers) to them.

    If we all work at it, we can inconvenience those idiots by getting their
    ISP to kill their accounts.

    dwayne



    Dwayne Reid <dwayner@p...>
    Trinity Electronics Systems Ltd Edmonton, AB, CANADA
    (780) 489-3199 voice (780) 487-6397 fax

    Celebrating 17 years of Engineering Innovation (1984 - 2001)

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
    Do NOT send unsolicited commercial email to this email address.
    This message neither grants consent to receive unsolicited
    commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email.
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-04-18 01:26
    I work for a large ISP in my area, these "anti-spam" organizations are more
    of an inconvenience to ISP's like us then to spammers. They just move on to
    other ISPs. In the mean time, our paying customers have to deal with MONTHS
    of rejected and returned E-mails. We do everything in our power to keep
    people from abusing our services, boo hoo if they get a few pieces of spam
    through, we'll catch it and SELF-ENFORCE. Sorry, but we were burned by the
    "internet blackhole list" about a year ago, when we failed one of their
    little "tests" that their server runs (no actual spam ever went through our
    system, I've got all the logs to prove it).

    Thank god for firewalls, every IP address in the class B that we trace back
    to an anti-spam organization gets banned from SMTP and POP3 ports. Freaking
    BS that we should have to go to these lengths just to provide un-interupted
    service to our paying customers. Sorry for the very off topic post, but I
    just get angry when hard working sysadmins lose money over what amounts to a
    single click fix (delete). I doubt you get that upset when a piece of junk
    snail mail comes into your box.. Do you call the post office and complain?
    What do you do... throw it away....

    Rob


    Original Message
    From: "Dwayne Reid" <dwayner@p...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 7:58 PM
    Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Very Urgent : Require Freelance programmers


    > At 06:27 PM 4/17/01 -0400, Beau Schwabe wrote:
    > >At 06:20 PM 4/17/01 -0400, you wrote:
    > > >Dear List Member
    > > >
    > > >We require FREELANCE PROGRAMMERS OF VARIOUS SKILL SETS...
    > > >
    >
    > This is SPAM. If you subscribe to one of the spam reporting groups,
    please
    > send that message (with complete headers) to them.
    >
    > If we all work at it, we can inconvenience those idiots by getting their
    > ISP to kill their accounts.
    >
    > dwayne
    >
    >
    >
    > Dwayne Reid <dwayner@p...>
    > Trinity Electronics Systems Ltd Edmonton, AB, CANADA
    > (780) 489-3199 voice (780) 487-6397 fax
    >
    > Celebrating 17 years of Engineering Innovation (1984 - 2001)
    >
    > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
    > Do NOT send unsolicited commercial email to this email address.
    > This message neither grants consent to receive unsolicited
    > commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
    >
    >
    >
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-04-18 01:42
    At 08:26 PM 4/17/01 -0400, Robert Staph wrote:
    >I work for a large ISP in my area, these "anti-spam" organizations are more
    >of an inconvenience to ISP's like us then to spammers. T

    <big snip>

    So just how do YOU do when it comes to dealing with spam? I use SpamCop to
    trace those spams and I use their default messages when I request that the
    ISP deal with spammers. I haven't ever requested a RBL (but that may
    change if UU.net doesn't clean up their act).

    When I connect at home or on the road, I pay for my internet access time by
    the minute. I do not wish to pay to receive unsolicited commercial
    email. Period.

    Most ISPs require their subscribers to adhere to the ISP's acceptable use
    policy. As far as I can tell, most ISPs do NOT allow spamming as part of
    their acceptable use policy. SpamCop allows me to request that the ISP
    investigate an offence and deal with the offender appropriately. Usually,
    they suspend or terminate the spammer's account.

    And that is what should happen to the idiot who sent the message who
    started this whole thread.

    dwayne



    Dwayne Reid <dwayner@p...>
    Trinity Electronics Systems Ltd Edmonton, AB, CANADA
    (780) 489-3199 voice (780) 487-6397 fax

    Celebrating 17 years of Engineering Innovation (1984 - 2001)

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
    Do NOT send unsolicited commercial email to this email address.
    This message neither grants consent to receive unsolicited
    commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email.
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-04-18 01:43
    My two cents:

    First off, the nature of the pop/smtp mail communication lets you get
    away with sending spam with completely wrong headers very easily. So
    tracing spam back to a single person is difficult at best.

    Second, most spam software out there lets you relay your mail off of a
    foreign server, so even if you can track it somewhere, it'll likely be
    to a former Soviet republic or the badlands of some East Asian land.

    Third, sometimes people do bad things. Like get mad at a former
    employer or coworker, and use their name on a bunch of spam just to
    make them look bad.

    There are things you can do to stop spam, but tracking down the
    spammer is likely not going to work. It's not because you're not a
    sleuth, it's because the nature of the email communication protocols
    combined with the fact that the software they used is *designed* to
    evade you, makes your battle entirely uphill.

    My suggestion is to just send it to the spam recycling center, which
    on a regular basis prints out all of the spam they get and delivers it
    to the US Congress. It won't stop spamming, but it will hopefully
    bring about stronger penalties for those doing the spamming.

    http://www.chooseyourmail.com/SpamInstructions.cfm

    Another thing to note is that the spam itself really comes across as a
    scam. That much is obvious. It also contains no real 'typos'. ie it
    most likely was run through some kind of spell checker. But it has a
    ton of gramatical errors, so it most likely was not written by someone
    who knows English as a primary language.

    My guess is this is someone in another country trying to score some
    easy bucks, and they're using spam software to do it. I'd also guess
    the laws against this kind of thing aren't clearly defined in their
    country. And I'm pretty sure no one would actually send them their money.

    -Chilton
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-04-18 01:45
    Who the heck are these "Innovative Internation Institure" guys?!! I've
    been in the software consulting for over 14 yrs. I used to consult for
    Microsoft, EPRI, The Big 3, etc. From my past experience I've seen many
    people get tangled into stuff like these deals. I'd like to restate (as
    somebody already had in this conversation thread), signing the contract
    by itself is a tricky thing and over on top of that, these people are
    asking for money.

    Second of all, if this deal is so lucrative, why can't you guys look in
    the head-hunters? Not in e-grps or newsgrps - it by itself sounds very
    un-professional.

    A big No-No!!!



    nagi

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    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Very Urgent : Require Freelance programmers
    Importance: High


    Dear List Member

    We require FREELANCE PROGRAMMERS OF VARIOUS SKILL SETS...

    WORK AT HOME OPPORTUNITY -- ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD...

    We are a group of companies dealing in Software development since last
    20
    years. During our journey of 20 years in this field we had developed
    more than
    2000 routines and full applications which comprises of about 5 million
    lines
    of source code.

    NOW WE WANT TO CONVERT THESE 5 MILLION LINES OF SOURCE CODE INTO ONE
    PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE TO ANOTHER....

    WE PAY ACCORDING TO SKILL SET INVOLVED

    YOU NEED NOT LEAVE YOUR PLACE OR JOB... WORK IN YOUR SPARE TIME...

    YOU MUST FULFILL OUR REQUIREMENTS AND CRITERIA....

    It is three stage process to get in...

    FIRST : You need to send your detailed Resume as detailed below
    SECOND : If you are selected
    --- you will be asked to enter into a specific agreement
    --- you need to deposit some amounts
    and some other criteria we will ask you to fulfill.
    THIRD : As soon as you fulfill our crietria we will start to send you
    the work
    according to our agreement.

    If you are interested follow the instructions below...

    FIRST STEP

    Send your detailed resume in TEXT FORMAT ONLY TO E-mail
    innovativeinstitute2@o...?subject=Interested_A and must include

    following DATA... [noparse][[/noparse]DO NOT REPLY THIS E-MAIL]

    START
    Name
    Address (in detail)
    Birth Date
    Educational Qualifications
    Professional Qualifications
    Project Involvement
    Language Conversion Skill Set Detail.
    e.g.
    I can Convert....

    C To Java
    C++ To Java
    BASICA To C
    FoxPro To XML

    etc...

    Time you spare for us : ______ hours per week
    You get this information from :
    END

    Note : IF YOU FILL THAT THIS IS NEEDFUL FOR ANY OF YOUR FRIEND, PLEASE
    SEND
    HIM/HER...


    Bharat Thakkar
    Director
    Innovative International Institute

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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-04-18 01:49
    So explain this:

    To use MSN Messenger Service to chat with a co-worker, I had to sign up for
    a Hotmail account. This email address is not shown in my MSN Messenger
    profile and I have never given out this email address or sent any email
    from it. I get 2-3 pieces of Smile mail a month, not even addressed to me.
    Sounds like the provider isn't doing a very good job. I complain, and
    receive no answer. Never had a problem with any small providers -- only big
    ones. Now you know why the anti-spam groups exist.

    One thing you seem to miss in your Post Office analogy is that the sender
    pays the postage. With email, the receiver is paying the postage in the form
    of a monthly fee and possibly per-minute connection fees.

    Original Message


    > I work for a large ISP in my area, these "anti-spam" organizations are
    more
    > of an inconvenience to ISP's like us then to spammers. They just move on
    to
    > other ISPs. In the mean time, our paying customers have to deal with
    MONTHS
    > of rejected and returned E-mails. We do everything in our power to keep
    > people from abusing our services, boo hoo if they get a few pieces of spam
    > through, we'll catch it and SELF-ENFORCE. Sorry, but we were burned by
    the
    > "internet blackhole list" about a year ago, when we failed one of their
    > little "tests" that their server runs (no actual spam ever went through
    our
    > system, I've got all the logs to prove it).
    >
    > Thank god for firewalls, every IP address in the class B that we trace
    back
    > to an anti-spam organization gets banned from SMTP and POP3 ports.
    Freaking
    > BS that we should have to go to these lengths just to provide
    un-interupted
    > service to our paying customers. Sorry for the very off topic post, but I
    > just get angry when hard working sysadmins lose money over what amounts to
    a
    > single click fix (delete). I doubt you get that upset when a piece of
    junk
    > snail mail comes into your box.. Do you call the post office and
    complain?
    > What do you do... throw it away....
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-04-18 04:11
    [font=arial,helvetica]You stupid jerks!!!!!!!!!!!![/font]
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-04-18 04:58
    Hmmm......... Let me see if I got this strait,

    The trick to this guys scam is to find someone smart enough to write
    programs yet stupid enough to send in money for a job, that's seems
    lame, Yet his presentation is well written.

    Wow! What a paradox! He's clever, yet stupid and he's targeting the
    clever, thinking their stupid.
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-04-18 05:28
    Robert Staph wrote:

    <other stuff snipped>

    >
    > Sorry for the very off topic post, but I
    > just get angry when hard working sysadmins lose money over what amounts to a
    > single click fix (delete). I doubt you get that upset when a piece of junk
    > snail mail comes into your box.. Do you call the post office and complain?
    > What do you do... throw it away....
    >
    > Rob


    Since this is OT anyway... heres what I do with junk mail. I take the
    envelope it came in and all the contents. I rip any relevant info up and
    stuff the whole mess back in the PREPAID envelope and send it back to
    them. AT best I figure it's my contribution to the future of the USPS.
    Sure as cuts down on the garbage bill. :-)
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-04-18 05:29
    > You stupid jerks!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I really thought today would go by without someone telling me this.
    Well, there's always tomorrow.

    -Chilton
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-04-18 15:22
    I'd like to add a comment. I have been using this yahoo email account for
    years, and I never get any spam. None, nada. How is it that yahoo keeps me
    from getting spam. My work account is the same. Clean as a whistle. My new
    home account is awful. It's a Comcast Cable account and I get 10 spams a day.

    So, how does Yahoo do it? To you other Yahoo account user, do you find their
    service great, like I do. My daughters were using Hotmail, and they finally
    switched to yahoo to escape the trash.

    The recent "Freelance" spam is the first I can remember getting, and I think it
    slipped through using the yahoogroups system.
    Dave

    --- chilton@t... wrote:
    > My two cents:
    >
    > First off, the nature of the pop/smtp mail communication lets you get
    > away with sending spam with completely wrong headers very easily. So
    > tracing spam back to a single person is difficult at best.


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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-04-18 15:23
    > So, how does Yahoo do it? To you other Yahoo account user, do you
    find their
    > service great, like I do. My daughters were using Hotmail, and they
    finally
    > switched to yahoo to escape the trash.
    >
    You just lucked out, I think. I have another yahoo account for another
    mailing list, and I get more spam from it than any other source. I
    think the lack of spam is related to the inability to search archives
    unless you're logged in, which most spambots don't bother doing.

    I think the other account is in a publicly searchable mailing list.

    -Chilton
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-04-18 17:18
    I got spam mails to both of my Yahoo and Hotmail account often, I use the
    "block" service on every single spam mail I received, but still keep
    receiving new spam.

    >I'd like to add a comment. I have been using this yahoo email account for
    >years, and I never get any spam. None, nada. How is it that yahoo keeps
    >me
    >from getting spam. My work account is the same. Clean as a whistle. My
    >new
    >home account is awful. It's a Comcast Cable account and I get 10 spams a
    >day.
    >
    >So, how does Yahoo do it? To you other Yahoo account user, do you find
    >their
    >service great, like I do. My daughters were using Hotmail, and they
    >finally
    >switched to yahoo to escape the trash.
    >
    >The recent "Freelance" spam is the first I can remember getting, and I
    >think it
    >slipped through using the yahoogroups system.

    _________________________________________________________________________
    Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-04-18 17:32
    I run a WWW host, and provide Email accounts for clients. I run Spam
    blockers, and have to update the list of SPAM every month. It is a real
    hastle for me.
    I still get around 10 Spam a day, even with all the blockers.
    Such is progress [noparse]:([/noparse]


    At 04:18 PM 4/18/2001, you wrote:
    >I got spam mails to both of my Yahoo and Hotmail account often, I use the
    >"block" service on every single spam mail I received, but still keep
    >receiving new spam.
    >
    >>I'd like to add a comment. I have been using this yahoo email account for
    >>years, and I never get any spam. None, nada. How is it that yahoo keeps
    >>me
    >>from getting spam. My work account is the same. Clean as a whistle. My
    >>new
    >>home account is awful. It's a Comcast Cable account and I get 10 spams a
    >>day.
    >>
    >>So, how does Yahoo do it? To you other Yahoo account user, do you find
    >>their
    >>service great, like I do. My daughters were using Hotmail, and they
    >>finally
    >>switched to yahoo to escape the trash.
    >>
    >>The recent "Freelance" spam is the first I can remember getting, and I
    >>think it
    >>slipped through using the yahoogroups system.
    >
    >_________________________________________________________________________
    >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
    >
    >
    >
    Sincerely
    Kerry
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