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Robot power from two nicads

ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2001-04-12 04:23 in General Discussion
Hello all: I have a small robot I am building that uses a stamp II.
I really wanted to stick with 2, C-cell batteries only in the robot, due to
space limitations.
My drive motors were designed for 3 volts, or 2 nicads (2.5V) I only want a
simple forward and reverse for both motors, so bought a Texas Instruments
SN754410NE 1A Dual H-Bridge. This chip worked good when I tested it at 5
Volts, however I see it says it works with 4.5V-36 V and I can't get it to
work at 3V DOH.
I had planned to use a small dc-dc convertor to power the stamp at 5V for
the TTL and a few small sensors. (if I can get it built)
Now I am stuck at deciding what to do, since I need 5V for the Stamp, and
sensor, 2.5-3V for the motors, and want to do it all with only 2 batteries.
The motors draw about 200 Mah/3V each, my Sensor draws 40Mah/5v. the stampII
draws whatever?
If I build a higher amperage DC-DC convertor to supply the H driver chip,
and the stamp and sensors, then I need to turn around and lower the voltage
back down for the 3V motors. Seems like a waste raising voltage, then
lowering it again.
Am I missing something simple here? I thought of a seperate real tiny
battery pack for the stamp and sensor using 4 small AAA cells, but then I
still need an H-bridge for the motors.
I do have a pair of Motor mind B's but really wanted to save them for a
bigger robot, and I only want forward and reverse, no fancy speed changes.
One last question, if I power the sensor (40Mah) directly off the stamp
regulator, am I pushing my luck? I see the stampII can source 50Mah, but I
dont wish to wear it out either.
Thank you to everyone.



Sincerely
Kerry
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-04-10 22:02
    I was under the impression that if you used a BJT H-bridge at Vcc = 5V, then
    the voltage drop across the transisitors would be 1.5 to 2 v leaving about
    3V across the motor which is what you need. I used a MOSFET h-brigde
    because I wanted to drive 5V motors with a 5V supply (Rds is small and there
    isn't much voltage drop across the mosfets.)

    > Hello all: I have a small robot I am building that uses a stamp II.
    > I really wanted to stick with 2, C-cell batteries only in the robot, due
    to
    > space limitations.
    > My drive motors were designed for 3 volts, or 2 nicads (2.5V) I only want
    a
    > simple forward and reverse for both motors, so bought a Texas Instruments
    > SN754410NE 1A Dual H-Bridge. This chip worked good when I tested it at 5
    > Volts, however I see it says it works with 4.5V-36 V and I can't get it to
    > work at 3V DOH.
    > I had planned to use a small dc-dc convertor to power the stamp at 5V for
    > the TTL and a few small sensors. (if I can get it built)
    > Now I am stuck at deciding what to do, since I need 5V for the Stamp, and
    > sensor, 2.5-3V for the motors, and want to do it all with only 2
    batteries.
    > The motors draw about 200 Mah/3V each, my Sensor draws 40Mah/5v. the
    stampII
    > draws whatever?
    > If I build a higher amperage DC-DC convertor to supply the H driver chip,
    > and the stamp and sensors, then I need to turn around and lower the
    voltage
    > back down for the 3V motors. Seems like a waste raising voltage, then
    > lowering it again.
    > Am I missing something simple here? I thought of a seperate real tiny
    > battery pack for the stamp and sensor using 4 small AAA cells, but then I
    > still need an H-bridge for the motors.
    > I do have a pair of Motor mind B's but really wanted to save them for a
    > bigger robot, and I only want forward and reverse, no fancy speed changes.
    > One last question, if I power the sensor (40Mah) directly off the stamp
    > regulator, am I pushing my luck? I see the stampII can source 50Mah, but I
    > dont wish to wear it out either.
    > Thank you to everyone.
    >
    >
    >
    > Sincerely
    > Kerry
    > Admin@M...
    > WWW server hosting [url=Http://mntnweb.com]Http://mntnweb.com[/url]
    > Kerry Barlow
    > p.o. box 21
    > kirkwood ny
    > 13795
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
    >
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-04-10 23:39
    Kerry,

    Have ever seen a voltage doubler? Diode and cap combo. might do the trick as
    long the current is low.

    Brian
    Original Message
    From: "Kerry Barlow" <admin@m...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 12:22 PM
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Robot power from two nicads


    > Hello all: I have a small robot I am building that uses a stamp II.
    > I really wanted to stick with 2, C-cell batteries only in the robot, due
    to
    > space limitations.
    > My drive motors were designed for 3 volts, or 2 nicads (2.5V) I only want
    a
    > simple forward and reverse for both motors, so bought a Texas Instruments
    > SN754410NE 1A Dual H-Bridge. This chip worked good when I tested it at 5
    > Volts, however I see it says it works with 4.5V-36 V and I can't get it to
    > work at 3V DOH.
    > I had planned to use a small dc-dc convertor to power the stamp at 5V for
    > the TTL and a few small sensors. (if I can get it built)
    > Now I am stuck at deciding what to do, since I need 5V for the Stamp, and
    > sensor, 2.5-3V for the motors, and want to do it all with only 2
    batteries.
    > The motors draw about 200 Mah/3V each, my Sensor draws 40Mah/5v. the
    stampII
    > draws whatever?
    > If I build a higher amperage DC-DC convertor to supply the H driver chip,
    > and the stamp and sensors, then I need to turn around and lower the
    voltage
    > back down for the 3V motors. Seems like a waste raising voltage, then
    > lowering it again.
    > Am I missing something simple here? I thought of a seperate real tiny
    > battery pack for the stamp and sensor using 4 small AAA cells, but then I
    > still need an H-bridge for the motors.
    > I do have a pair of Motor mind B's but really wanted to save them for a
    > bigger robot, and I only want forward and reverse, no fancy speed changes.
    > One last question, if I power the sensor (40Mah) directly off the stamp
    > regulator, am I pushing my luck? I see the stampII can source 50Mah, but I
    > dont wish to wear it out either.
    > Thank you to everyone.
    >
    >
    >
    > Sincerely
    > Kerry
    > Admin@M...
    > WWW server hosting [url=Http://mntnweb.com]Http://mntnweb.com[/url]
    > Kerry Barlow
    > p.o. box 21
    > kirkwood ny
    > 13795
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
    >
    >
    >


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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-04-10 23:52
    Only works with AC. You would need some sort of oscillator to drive the
    doubler. Not very practical here. Typically this is done from within the
    H-bridge package.

    Original Message

    > Have ever seen a voltage doubler? Diode and cap combo. might do the trick
    as
    > long the current is low.

    > > Hello all: I have a small robot I am building that uses a stamp II.
    > > I really wanted to stick with 2, C-cell batteries only in the robot, due
    > to
    > > space limitations.
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-04-11 00:15
    Take a look at the LT1111 from Linear Technology. They have an example
    of a 3V to 5V stepup converter on the LT111 page.

    www.linear-tech.com/prod/datasheet.html?datasheet=303


    Rodent wrote:
    >
    > Only works with AC. You would need some sort of oscillator to drive the
    > doubler. Not very practical here. Typically this is done from within the
    > H-bridge package.
    >
    >
    Original Message
    >
    > > Have ever seen a voltage doubler? Diode and cap combo. might do the trick
    > as
    > > long the current is low.
    >
    > > > Hello all: I have a small robot I am building that uses a stamp II.
    > > > I really wanted to stick with 2, C-cell batteries only in the robot, due
    > > to
    > > > space limitations.
    >
    >
    >
    > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-04-12 04:23
    unsubscribe

    Original Message
    From: Rodent <daweasel@s...>
    Date: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 6:52 pm
    Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Robot power from two nicads

    > Only works with AC. You would need some sort of oscillator to
    > drive the
    > doubler. Not very practical here. Typically this is done from
    > within the
    > H-bridge package.
    >
    >
    Original Message
    >
    > > Have ever seen a voltage doubler? Diode and cap combo. might do
    > the trick
    > as
    > > long the current is low.
    >
    > > > Hello all: I have a small robot I am building that uses a
    > stamp II.
    > > > I really wanted to stick with 2, C-cell batteries only in the
    > robot, due
    > > to
    > > > space limitations.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
    > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
    >
    >
    >
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