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make a plotter

ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2001-03-28 20:48 in General Discussion
I would like to designa plotter, were i can make a program and have it draw
it out. Kinda like a computer aided drafting thing. Anyone have any idea's
on this, and where I can get some info on it?

Thanks Justin

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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-03-26 09:22
    In a message dated 03/25/2001 8:59:10 PM, Absolutezero@s... writes:

    >I would like to designa plotter, were i can make a program and have it
    >draw
    >it out. Kinda like a computer aided drafting thing. Anyone have any idea's
    >on this, and where I can get some info on it?
    >
    > Thanks Justin
    I had these sites bookmarked. give them a try
    http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lab/3685/plotter/plotter.htm
    http://home.soneraplaza.nl/mw/prive/luberth/plotter/plotter.htm
    http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/cnchobbyist

    ===========
    Larry Geib
    ljgeib@a...
    ===========
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-03-26 20:39
    At 09:59 PM 3/25/2001 , you wrote:
    >I would like to designa plotter, were i can make a program and have it draw
    >it out. Kinda like a computer aided drafting thing. Anyone have any idea's
    >on this, and where I can get some info on it?
    >
    > Thanks Justin


    Justin,
    You're tackling a project thats not impossible, but pretty Tough! First of all
    there is the hardware. Are you using a surplus plotter for the motors and
    slides or will you build it from scratch? Do you already have what amounts
    to a 2 1/2D CNC setup? Where and how are you going to get your input?
    I suggest you use an existing standard such as HPGL because most
    software that has an ability to plot will be able to create this file as your
    input (other flavors such as houston Instruments, versatec etc exist too
    but I think HPGL has the most widespread recognition).
    The HPGL has a certain format and command set in generic ASCII text.
    You'll need to create a program to read the file and interpret the text
    line by line
    into corresponding commands to your "plotting device". For instance, the
    HPGL command line may specify a "pen up" command followed by an XY
    coordinate pair to go to before the next command. Your program must
    cause your machine to interpret this to mechanical movement that is
    consistant with your outcome.

    I have an old Amdek XY-100 flatbed plotter that I purchased in the early
    80's. No software had the proper drivers for it because it had it's own
    language that no one supported. (did I have the only one is the USA?)
    The approach that I have thus far suggested was a way for me to get
    plots out of an otherwise useless (and expensive) plotter.

    Good luck,
    Greg
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-03-26 21:01
    It would probably be a heck of a lot easier to buy an old HPGL plotter for
    $50 at a used computer place and write a stamp interface module. There's
    way too many un-built things out there to go re-creating built ones. [noparse]:)[/noparse]

    On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Greg Hensley wrote:

    > At 09:59 PM 3/25/2001 , you wrote:
    > >I would like to designa plotter, were i can make a program and have it draw
    > >it out. Kinda like a computer aided drafting thing. Anyone have any idea's
    > >on this, and where I can get some info on it?
    > >
    > > Thanks Justin
    >
    >
    > Justin,
    > You're tackling a project thats not impossible, but pretty Tough! First of all
    > there is the hardware. Are you using a surplus plotter for the motors and
    > slides or will you build it from scratch? Do you already have what amounts
    > to a 2 1/2D CNC setup? Where and how are you going to get your input?
    > I suggest you use an existing standard such as HPGL because most
    > software that has an ability to plot will be able to create this file as your
    > input (other flavors such as houston Instruments, versatec etc exist too
    > but I think HPGL has the most widespread recognition).
    > The HPGL has a certain format and command set in generic ASCII text.
    > You'll need to create a program to read the file and interpret the text
    > line by line
    > into corresponding commands to your "plotting device". For instance, the
    > HPGL command line may specify a "pen up" command followed by an XY
    > coordinate pair to go to before the next command. Your program must
    > cause your machine to interpret this to mechanical movement that is
    > consistant with your outcome.
    >
    > I have an old Amdek XY-100 flatbed plotter that I purchased in the early
    > 80's. No software had the proper drivers for it because it had it's own
    > language that no one supported. (did I have the only one is the USA?)
    > The approach that I have thus far suggested was a way for me to get
    > plots out of an otherwise useless (and expensive) plotter.
    >
    > Good luck,
    > Greg
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
    >
    >
    >

    Sean T. Lamont, CTO / Chief NetNerd, Abstract Software, Inc. (ServNet)
    Seattle - Bellingham - Vancouver - Portland - Everett - Tacoma - Bremerton
    email: lamont@a... WWW: http://www.serv.net
    "...There's no moral, it's just a lot of stuff that happens". - H. Simpson
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-03-27 01:41
    any ideas where i can get one of those?


    Original Message
    From: Greg Hensley [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=aJtF9t1mvcv1fwjOoUxFoIpHlYdF9xo1XGg9VxEbfruW79NtoBYN-MvrYqHEgeXJ0zLjgWf2opecnbo]hensley1@l...[/url
    Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 11:40 AM
    To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] make a plotter


    At 09:59 PM 3/25/2001 , you wrote:
    >I would like to designa plotter, were i can make a program and have it draw
    >it out. Kinda like a computer aided drafting thing. Anyone have any idea's
    >on this, and where I can get some info on it?
    >
    > Thanks Justin


    Justin,
    You're tackling a project thats not impossible, but pretty Tough! First of
    all
    there is the hardware. Are you using a surplus plotter for the motors and
    slides or will you build it from scratch? Do you already have what amounts
    to a 2 1/2D CNC setup? Where and how are you going to get your input?
    I suggest you use an existing standard such as HPGL because most
    software that has an ability to plot will be able to create this file as
    your
    input (other flavors such as houston Instruments, versatec etc exist too
    but I think HPGL has the most widespread recognition).
    The HPGL has a certain format and command set in generic ASCII text.
    You'll need to create a program to read the file and interpret the text
    line by line
    into corresponding commands to your "plotting device". For instance, the
    HPGL command line may specify a "pen up" command followed by an XY
    coordinate pair to go to before the next command. Your program must
    cause your machine to interpret this to mechanical movement that is
    consistant with your outcome.

    I have an old Amdek XY-100 flatbed plotter that I purchased in the early
    80's. No software had the proper drivers for it because it had it's own
    language that no one supported. (did I have the only one is the USA?)
    The approach that I have thus far suggested was a way for me to get
    plots out of an otherwise useless (and expensive) plotter.

    Good luck,
    Greg




    Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-03-27 03:17
    a quick search of ebay locates a 7475A in the $10 range

    http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1224442208

    On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Absolutezero wrote:

    > any ideas where i can get one of those?
    >
    >
    >
    Original Message
    > From: Greg Hensley [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=pePYzdP6lr439MYXUbt_VgsiZtQxJoG07CWNeWRJP99aCwjG74axi7nJpStxr9bdBJ-UvrDl1U1Y]hensley1@l...[/url
    > Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 11:40 AM
    > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] make a plotter
    >
    >
    > At 09:59 PM 3/25/2001 , you wrote:
    > >I would like to designa plotter, were i can make a program and have it draw
    > >it out. Kinda like a computer aided drafting thing. Anyone have any idea's
    > >on this, and where I can get some info on it?
    > >
    > > Thanks Justin
    >
    >
    > Justin,
    > You're tackling a project thats not impossible, but pretty Tough! First of
    > all
    > there is the hardware. Are you using a surplus plotter for the motors and
    > slides or will you build it from scratch? Do you already have what amounts
    > to a 2 1/2D CNC setup? Where and how are you going to get your input?
    > I suggest you use an existing standard such as HPGL because most
    > software that has an ability to plot will be able to create this file as
    > your
    > input (other flavors such as houston Instruments, versatec etc exist too
    > but I think HPGL has the most widespread recognition).
    > The HPGL has a certain format and command set in generic ASCII text.
    > You'll need to create a program to read the file and interpret the text
    > line by line
    > into corresponding commands to your "plotting device". For instance, the
    > HPGL command line may specify a "pen up" command followed by an XY
    > coordinate pair to go to before the next command. Your program must
    > cause your machine to interpret this to mechanical movement that is
    > consistant with your outcome.
    >
    > I have an old Amdek XY-100 flatbed plotter that I purchased in the early
    > 80's. No software had the proper drivers for it because it had it's own
    > language that no one supported. (did I have the only one is the USA?)
    > The approach that I have thus far suggested was a way for me to get
    > plots out of an otherwise useless (and expensive) plotter.
    >
    > Good luck,
    > Greg
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
    >
    >
    >

    Sean T. Lamont, CTO / Chief NetNerd, Abstract Software, Inc. (ServNet)
    Seattle - Bellingham - Vancouver - Portland - Everett - Tacoma - Bremerton
    email: lamont@a... WWW: http://www.serv.net
    "...There's no moral, it's just a lot of stuff that happens". - H. Simpson
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-03-27 05:48
    so do you have a plotter and what kinda things do you do with it, and how
    do you have it hooked up to a Stamp? can you feel me in on the details?


    Original Message
    From: Sean T. Lamont .lost. [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=lqOFLqxR_wodoCPA0H8EKi7BUZ5frtcq2Uw2s9lgaBzGQmfw0G8a08wHg2hfRqLhK2BAdTLAzA6vLh3RXWSXig]lamont@a...[/url
    Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 6:17 PM
    To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] make a plotter



    a quick search of ebay locates a 7475A in the $10 range

    http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1224442208

    On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Absolutezero wrote:

    > any ideas where i can get one of those?
    >
    >
    >
    Original Message
    > From: Greg Hensley [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=TyufFj8m2TWLCbbA6xGcD-7U4iN1kZdIBCS5ljtzo7fCX3Smo1dUdIpK8wkoaEGhYlMjlthysg]hensley1@l...[/url
    > Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 11:40 AM
    > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] make a plotter
    >
    >
    > At 09:59 PM 3/25/2001 , you wrote:
    > >I would like to designa plotter, were i can make a program and have it
    draw
    > >it out. Kinda like a computer aided drafting thing. Anyone have any
    idea's
    > >on this, and where I can get some info on it?
    > >
    > > Thanks Justin
    >
    >
    > Justin,
    > You're tackling a project thats not impossible, but pretty Tough! First of
    > all
    > there is the hardware. Are you using a surplus plotter for the motors and
    > slides or will you build it from scratch? Do you already have what amounts
    > to a 2 1/2D CNC setup? Where and how are you going to get your input?
    > I suggest you use an existing standard such as HPGL because most
    > software that has an ability to plot will be able to create this file as
    > your
    > input (other flavors such as houston Instruments, versatec etc exist too
    > but I think HPGL has the most widespread recognition).
    > The HPGL has a certain format and command set in generic ASCII text.
    > You'll need to create a program to read the file and interpret the text
    > line by line
    > into corresponding commands to your "plotting device". For instance, the
    > HPGL command line may specify a "pen up" command followed by an XY
    > coordinate pair to go to before the next command. Your program must
    > cause your machine to interpret this to mechanical movement that is
    > consistant with your outcome.
    >
    > I have an old Amdek XY-100 flatbed plotter that I purchased in the early
    > 80's. No software had the proper drivers for it because it had it's own
    > language that no one supported. (did I have the only one is the USA?)
    > The approach that I have thus far suggested was a way for me to get
    > plots out of an otherwise useless (and expensive) plotter.
    >
    > Good luck,
    > Greg
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
    >
    >
    >

    Sean T. Lamont, CTO / Chief NetNerd, Abstract Software, Inc. (ServNet)
    Seattle - Bellingham - Vancouver - Portland - Everett - Tacoma - Bremerton
    email: lamont@a... WWW: http://www.serv.net
    "...There's no moral, it's just a lot of stuff that happens". - H. Simpson




    Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-03-27 19:58
    On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Absolutezero wrote:

    > so do you have a plotter and what kinda things do you do with it, and how
    > do you have it hooked up to a Stamp? can you feel me in on the details?
    >

    Not precisely, but I've hooked it up to other async serial devices, such
    as PC's. In terms of getting it to plot, the spec for HPGL is floating
    around the net ; it's pretty simple. pen down, pen up, move plotter, etc.
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-03-28 03:19
    Check out (search on) DanCad3D


    At 09:59 PM 3/25/01 -0800, you wrote:
    >I would like to designa plotter, were i can make a program and have it draw
    >it out. Kinda like a computer aided drafting thing. Anyone have any idea's
    >on this, and where I can get some info on it?
    >

    > Thanks Justin
    >

    >

    >
    >

    >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
    >

    >

    >

    >



    Roger Edberg
    roger@industrialartist.com
    http://www.industrialartist.com
    also:
    Technical Tree Service
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-03-28 20:48
    At 09:59 PM 3/25/2001 , you wrote:
    >I would like to designa plotter, were i can make a program and have it draw
    >it out. Kinda like a computer aided drafting thing. Anyone have any idea's
    >on this, and where I can get some info on it?
    >
    > Thanks Justin


    Justin,
    This is my second response to your posting. In the first I brought up a few
    questions about hardware, and recommended a software approach to a
    HPGL interpreter.

    Below is a web site that deals the construction of a home built plotter,
    engraver etc. This site may be important to all Stampers wanting a lost cost
    output device. I think this is actually the answer you were seeking!

    Check it out at:

    http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/lab/3685/plotter/plotter.htm

    Good luck,
    Greg
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