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I have always had trouble mounting hardware in project boxes.
Particularly DB connectors (9,15,25)
Can anybody suggest a simple method of making the cutout in the
project box so that it can fit nicely?
Al Najjar
Particularly DB connectors (9,15,25)
Can anybody suggest a simple method of making the cutout in the
project box so that it can fit nicely?
Al Najjar
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can be made to look good if done carefully.
Chris
>
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> I have always had trouble mounting hardware in project boxes.
> Particularly DB connectors (9,15,25)
>
> Can anybody suggest a simple method of making the cutout in the
> project box so that it can fit nicely?
>
>
> Al Najjar
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A decent DB type punch has always cost me at least $150. I've tried a few
cheaper solutions, but they don't hold up to much use and certainly can't
deal with any but the softest chassis.
If this route is too pricey, You might decide to make a drill template. I
use a #44 drill and drill through a template to get the "shape" and the
mounting holes of the hole I need. You can make this template out of 1/8"
steel plate. Start by laying the connector face down on the plate. Drill
through the mounting holes. At this point you can use long #4 screws to
mount the connector onto the plate in a backwards fashion. Scribe around
the shell of the connector to mark where your template holes will land.
Remove the connector, mark 1/16" inside your line at 3/16" spacing with a
prick punch or center punch. Try to land or "fudge" a hole to each of the
four corners. This will make your finished shape start with the right
corner dimensions. Now drill these marks with an 1/8" drill bit.
You now have a template that you can attach to the chassis after drilling
only one of the mounting holes. Drill the second mounting hole, install
screws and nuts and drill through the template and your chassis at all
remaining hole sites. This is a starting place for a small file or multiple
files to shape the hole.
I know that doesn't sound like the "simple method" you asked for, but short
of buying the right tools or using a milling machine, I have never been
able to make decent looking shaped holes in chassis any other way.
Good luck,
Mike
At 10:14 PM 3/23/2001 +0000, you wrote:
>I have always had trouble mounting hardware in project boxes.
>Particularly DB connectors (9,15,25)
>
>Can anybody suggest a simple method of making the cutout in the
>project box so that it can fit nicely?
>
>
>Al Najjar
>
>
>
>
>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
_________________________________
Mike Walsh
walsh@i...
know, I know! *grin*) has what they call "Project Enclosures" which have
a "...plastic lid partial cutout for DB-9 connector"
I bought 2 of these today for a project which I need to mount a DB9 to,
but haven't actually USED it yet [noparse]:)[/noparse]
-Rich
On Fri, 23 Mar 2001 brownstamp@y... wrote:
> I have always had trouble mounting hardware in project boxes.
> Particularly DB connectors (9,15,25)
>
> Can anybody suggest a simple method of making the cutout in the
> project box so that it can fit nicely?
>
>
> Al Najjar
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
plates already punched (from SesCom, I think). They are made to be end
plates for a series of boxes they make (Lab Box-It) and are just a bit
bigger than the D connector. The cases come with blank panels, but you can
get them extra with different holes. They already have small holes in the
four corners. We cut a square hole in the panel a bit smaller than the panel
and use self tapping screws to attach the plate. Works well enough.
A DB-9 panel is like 50 cents, a DB-25 is .75. You can also get round holes,
double d holes, XLR, SO239, etc.
None more than about a buck. You can also buy the cases, but we usually use
them with bigger boxes.
http://www.sescom.com/enclosure/
Al Williams
AWC
* Floating point math for the Stamp, PIC, SX, or any microcontroller:
http://www.al-williams.com/awce/pak1.htm
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> From: Chris Loiacono [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=rkBmg29f-3zYeB8pRSg7oWzZCZFwZI-rR2VZNuL70Oa7JQ-IRMO3-LEr0iD6cZiXXjiiaqqcRNHOlGJme7BaEWJYk-6m2NKe]chris@a...[/urlOn Behalf Of
> Chris Loiacono (E-mail)
> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 4:27 PM
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> If you don't want to buy the punch, use a Dremel tool. It's not
> fast, but it
> can be made to look good if done carefully.
> Chris
>
> >
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> > From: brownstamp@y... [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=pwwcQ_3sAIoIMazA9hixevYWSa9t_DTyZNX8G7EBdgBxio0uNzMxBmtL9w6Pf4Wvc9rqQGCSFx74hiU]brownstamp@y...[/url
> > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 5:15 PM
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> > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Assembly
> >
> >
> > I have always had trouble mounting hardware in project boxes.
> > Particularly DB connectors (9,15,25)
> >
> > Can anybody suggest a simple method of making the cutout in the
> > project box so that it can fit nicely?
> >
> >
> > Al Najjar
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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> >
> >
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> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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want and print the image out on overhead projector film. Stick the film to
the box as a template and cut away with a nibbling tool or Dremel tool. Use
a small round file to shape the curves.
Original Message
> I have always had trouble mounting hardware in project boxes.
> Particularly DB connectors (9,15,25)
>
> Can anybody suggest a simple method of making the cutout in the
> project box so that it can fit nicely?
used for the serial / parallel cards. I always mounted the connectors in the
case and saved the plates for later. Use the plate as a template.
Original Message
> The punches are fairly expensive. One thing I've done in the past is to
buy
> plates already punched (from SesCom, I think). They are made to be end
> plates for a series of boxes they make (Lab Box-It) and are just a bit
> bigger than the D connector. The cases come with blank panels, but you can
> get them extra with different holes. They already have small holes in the
> four corners. We cut a square hole in the panel a bit smaller than the
panel
> and use self tapping screws to attach the plate. Works well enough.
>
> A DB-9 panel is like 50 cents, a DB-25 is .75. You can also get round
holes,
> double d holes, XLR, SO239, etc.
>
> None more than about a buck. You can also buy the cases, but we usually
use
> them with bigger boxes.
you are truley a wealth of information. I enjoy your book and use it
as my main reference.
thanks!
--- In basicstamps@y..., "Al Williams" <alw@a...> wrote:
> The punches are fairly expensive. One thing I've done in the past is
to buy
> plates already punched (from SesCom, I think). They are made to be
end
> plates for a series of boxes they make (Lab Box-It) and are just a
bit
> bigger than the D connector. The cases come with blank panels, but
you can
> get them extra with different holes. They already have small holes
in the
> four corners. We cut a square hole in the panel a bit smaller than
the panel
> and use self tapping screws to attach the plate. Works well enough.
>
> A DB-9 panel is like 50 cents, a DB-25 is .75. You can also get
round holes,
> double d holes, XLR, SO239, etc.
>
> None more than about a buck. You can also buy the cases, but we
usually use
> them with bigger boxes.
>
> http://www.sescom.com/enclosure/
>
>
>
>
> Al Williams
> AWC
> * Floating point math for the Stamp, PIC, SX, or any
microcontroller:
> http://www.al-williams.com/awce/pak1.htm
>
>
>
> >
Original Message
> > From: Chris Loiacono [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:chris@a...]On Behalf Of
> > Chris Loiacono (E-mail)
> > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 4:27 PM
> > To: basicstamps@y...
> > Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Assembly
> >
> >
> > If you don't want to buy the punch, use a Dremel tool. It's not
> > fast, but it
> > can be made to look good if done carefully.
> > Chris
> >
> > >
Original Message
> > > From: brownstamp@y... [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:brownstamp@y...]
> > > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 5:15 PM
> > > To: basicstamps@y...
> > > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Assembly
> > >
> > >
> > > I have always had trouble mounting hardware in project boxes.
> > > Particularly DB connectors (9,15,25)
> > >
> > > Can anybody suggest a simple method of making the cutout in the
> > > project box so that it can fit nicely?
> > >
> > >
> > > Al Najjar
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
I am trying to make an Outside-template for a Dremel tool. By this I
mean using a standard routing technique used in woodworking (I do lots
of that). I have a special base for the Dremel that has a flat
circular colar. I make my template to be the dimention of the cutout
plus the radius of the colar. After many trials and errors I will
arrive at tempalte that can be lined up with the project box and
clamped to it. Then the Dremel can ride inside this template and I
can freely move the cuting bit around to remove unwanted material.
I know it works for woodworking, but the problem with project boxes is
that you don't have much space.
I will try it and update you.
Many thanks!
Al Najjar
--- In basicstamps@y..., MIKE WALSH <walsh@c...> wrote:
> Al,
> A decent DB type punch has always cost me at least $150. I've tried
a few
> cheaper solutions, but they don't hold up to much use and certainly
can't
> deal with any but the softest chassis.
> If this route is too pricey, You might decide to make a drill
template. I
> use a #44 drill and drill through a template to get the "shape" and
the
> mounting holes of the hole I need. You can make this template out of
1/8"
> steel plate. Start by laying the connector face down on the plate.
Drill
> through the mounting holes. At this point you can use long #4 screws
to
> mount the connector onto the plate in a backwards fashion. Scribe
around
> the shell of the connector to mark where your template holes will
land.
> Remove the connector, mark 1/16" inside your line at 3/16" spacing
with a
> prick punch or center punch. Try to land or "fudge" a hole to each
of the
> four corners. This will make your finished shape start with the
right
> corner dimensions. Now drill these marks with an 1/8" drill bit.
> You now have a template that you can attach to the chassis after
drilling
> only one of the mounting holes. Drill the second mounting hole,
install
> screws and nuts and drill through the template and your chassis at
all
> remaining hole sites. This is a starting place for a small file or
multiple
> files to shape the hole.
> I know that doesn't sound like the "simple method" you asked for,
but short
> of buying the right tools or using a milling machine, I have never
been
> able to make decent looking shaped holes in chassis any other way.
> Good luck,
> Mike
>
>
>
> At 10:14 PM 3/23/2001 +0000, you wrote:
> >I have always had trouble mounting hardware in project boxes.
> >Particularly DB connectors (9,15,25)
> >
> >Can anybody suggest a simple method of making the cutout in the
> >project box so that it can fit nicely?
> >
> >
> >Al Najjar
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
> _________________________________
> Mike Walsh
> walsh@i...
What kind of dremel bit to use!
--- In basicstamps@y..., Rodent <daweasel@s...> wrote:
> If you are really cheap, you could hoard a bunch of old PC blockoff
plates
> used for the serial / parallel cards. I always mounted the
connectors in the
> case and saved the plates for later. Use the plate as a template.
>
>
Original Message
>
> > The punches are fairly expensive. One thing I've done in the past
is to
> buy
> > plates already punched (from SesCom, I think). They are made to be
end
> > plates for a series of boxes they make (Lab Box-It) and are just a
bit
> > bigger than the D connector. The cases come with blank panels, but
you can
> > get them extra with different holes. They already have small holes
in the
> > four corners. We cut a square hole in the panel a bit smaller than
the
> panel
> > and use self tapping screws to attach the plate. Works well
enough.
> >
> > A DB-9 panel is like 50 cents, a DB-25 is .75. You can also get
round
> holes,
> > double d holes, XLR, SO239, etc.
> >
> > None more than about a buck. You can also buy the cases, but we
usually
> use
> > them with bigger boxes.
fine, but labor intensive. For small production runs, I bought the Greelee
D punch -- the one-piece model that also does the side mounting screws. I
cranked out about 20 boxes, each with 3 D9 cutoffs, and by then the novelty
had definitely worn off. So I now let the enclosure box company do all the
punching for "a few dollars more" per panel. More time for designing,
Stamping and PICing, and less time spent punching.
Dennis
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Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 1:08 PM
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Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Assembly
Wow! this is cheap but clever.
What kind of dremel bit to use!
--- In basicstamps@y..., Rodent <daweasel@s...> wrote:
> If you are really cheap, you could hoard a bunch of old PC blockoff
plates
> used for the serial / parallel cards. I always mounted the
connectors in the
> case and saved the plates for later. Use the plate as a template.
>
>
Original Message
>
> > The punches are fairly expensive. One thing I've done in the past
is to
> buy
> > plates already punched (from SesCom, I think). They are made to be
end
> > plates for a series of boxes they make (Lab Box-It) and are just a
bit
> > bigger than the D connector. The cases come with blank panels, but
you can
> > get them extra with different holes. They already have small holes
in the
> > four corners. We cut a square hole in the panel a bit smaller than
the
> panel
> > and use self tapping screws to attach the plate. Works well
enough.
> >
> > A DB-9 panel is like 50 cents, a DB-25 is .75. You can also get
round
> holes,
> > double d holes, XLR, SO239, etc.
> >
> > None more than about a buck. You can also buy the cases, but we
usually
> use
> > them with bigger boxes.
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By this i want to know if exist one compilator/editor in assembly to BSI/BSII ?
Much Obliged
Wagner
Brasil
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