BS2p - alternatives
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Hello everybody,
This is slightly off topic, but has anyone had any dealings with a
system called 'rabbitcore 2000' or the 'rabbit 2000 microprocessor'
which can be found at
rabbitsemiconductor.com
In the UK the BS2p will be reselling at £89.00 for 1 off which is a
bit steep when you consider this rabbitcore thing is only £32.50 for
1 off.
here's a snippet from Rabbitsemiconductor.com's site
The RabbitCore 2000 is the foundation around which you build a
custom board based on the Rabbit 2000 microprocessor.
Make the RabbitCore 2000 the heart of your custom board design
Measuring just 1.90"x 2.30", this compact and powerful core module
includes all the components that will jump-start your board design.
Included are general-purpose I/O, memory I/O interface, battery
backup interface, master-slave control pins, five 8-bit timers
(cascadable in pairs) and one 10-bit timer with two match registers,
four CMOS-compatible serial ports, and up to 25.8MHz (see versions)
clock for fast number crunching. Flash and SRAM are on-board,
providing a development-ready memory interface.
The core module receives +5V power from a user-designed motherboard
on which it mounts. Dual 40-pin male connectors on the core mate
with common dual-row 2mm sockets on the motherboard. Five parallel
ports provide up to 40 parallel I/O lines that may be used to
interface nearly any digital device. The 8-bit bidirectional data
bus lines, 13 address lines and the necessary strobes are provided
to easily interface communications peripherals, input or output
registers or small memories as I/O devices.
Programming is done with 'dynamic C' in a similar vein to the BS's.
I would be interested in hearing from any user, cause I have to
design a PLC type device which needs a BS2p or similar as the brain.
cheers for now
Jon
This is slightly off topic, but has anyone had any dealings with a
system called 'rabbitcore 2000' or the 'rabbit 2000 microprocessor'
which can be found at
rabbitsemiconductor.com
In the UK the BS2p will be reselling at £89.00 for 1 off which is a
bit steep when you consider this rabbitcore thing is only £32.50 for
1 off.
here's a snippet from Rabbitsemiconductor.com's site
The RabbitCore 2000 is the foundation around which you build a
custom board based on the Rabbit 2000 microprocessor.
Make the RabbitCore 2000 the heart of your custom board design
Measuring just 1.90"x 2.30", this compact and powerful core module
includes all the components that will jump-start your board design.
Included are general-purpose I/O, memory I/O interface, battery
backup interface, master-slave control pins, five 8-bit timers
(cascadable in pairs) and one 10-bit timer with two match registers,
four CMOS-compatible serial ports, and up to 25.8MHz (see versions)
clock for fast number crunching. Flash and SRAM are on-board,
providing a development-ready memory interface.
The core module receives +5V power from a user-designed motherboard
on which it mounts. Dual 40-pin male connectors on the core mate
with common dual-row 2mm sockets on the motherboard. Five parallel
ports provide up to 40 parallel I/O lines that may be used to
interface nearly any digital device. The 8-bit bidirectional data
bus lines, 13 address lines and the necessary strobes are provided
to easily interface communications peripherals, input or output
registers or small memories as I/O devices.
Programming is done with 'dynamic C' in a similar vein to the BS's.
I would be interested in hearing from any user, cause I have to
design a PLC type device which needs a BS2p or similar as the brain.
cheers for now
Jon
Comments
drive hired cars there, that a US company would give you a break. £89 is
rough, what $140 US? (OK, I don't want to make enemies at Parallax.)But,
then again, they do charge us quite a bit to look at big rocks and sand
paintings...
OK, seriously - this topic came up some weeks back and two differing views
were voiced. My experience was brief. I phoned the tech support number
listed for the Rabbit, and their tech told me horror stories, and advised
staying away. He said there were a lot of bugs to be worked out.
Someone else replied to this group by telling a glowing story of good
results. I don't know how many he used, of for what applications, but he was
sold on it.
Go figure.
>
Original Message
> From: Jon [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=X7DSSpCoMyn-ZVb3dlmrZaIarSWYuB9LF765t1Qs4_vLTBHex-1OgFoPCDBv7RClfWRMGaDRhXU]jonm@p...[/url
> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 4:54 PM
> To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] BS2p - alternatives
>
>
> Hello everybody,
>
> This is slightly off topic, but has anyone had any dealings with a
> system called 'rabbitcore 2000' or the 'rabbit 2000 microprocessor'
> which can be found at
>
> rabbitsemiconductor.com
>
> In the UK the BS2p will be reselling at £89.00 for 1 off which is a
> bit steep when you consider this rabbitcore thing is only £32.50 for
> 1 off.
>
> \
WE DO....
cry, cry
thanks for your reply, what about the BASICX chip any ideas on that
little gem?
cheers
Jon
--- In basicstamps@y..., "Chris Loiacono (E-mail)" <chris01@t...>
wrote:
> You would think with all the mirrors we knock off your cars when we
Yankees
> drive hired cars there, that a US company would give you a break.
£89 is
> rough, what $140 US? (OK, I don't want to make enemies at Parallax.)
But,
> then again, they do charge us quite a bit to look at big rocks and
sand
> paintings...
> OK, seriously - this topic came up some weeks back and two
differing views
> were voiced. My experience was brief. I phoned the tech support
number
> listed for the Rabbit, and their tech told me horror stories, and
advised
> staying away. He said there were a lot of bugs to be worked out.
> Someone else replied to this group by telling a glowing story of
good
> results. I don't know how many he used, of for what applications,
but he was
> sold on it.
> Go figure.
>
> \
> This is slightly off topic, but has anyone had any dealings with a
> system called 'rabbitcore 2000' or the 'rabbit 2000 microprocessor'
I have 2 of them (along with 2 SitePlayer modules, and 2 TINI modules -
will I never learn!)
Haven't used them yet, but I was looking for something more powerful
than the Stamp devices. I have no idea how to program in C, so the
learning curve could be steep. At the moment I use Stamps for about half
my projects & BasicX for the rest.
I hope the comments about so many problems aren't true for everyone or
at least hope the problems are solved soon. I do know that their mailing
list is pretty slow - lucky to get 1 post per day. Stamp support is still the
best.
Dave
Original Message
Yeah but you guys don't have to pay $5 a gallon of petrol!!!!!
WE DO....
cry, cry
thanks for your reply, what about the BASICX chip any ideas on that
little gem?
have 'British real ale'
Jon
--- In basicstamps@y..., Rodent <daweasel@s...> wrote:
> No, but we have crappy beer.
>
>
>
Original Message
>
> Yeah but you guys don't have to pay $5 a gallon of petrol!!!!!
>
> WE DO....
>
> cry, cry
>
> thanks for your reply, what about the BASICX chip any ideas on that
> little gem?
About the petrol, at the pumps in the UK you get much higher octane levels,
and generally one grade of fuel. We get 3 grades: low octane; lower yet; and
might burn. In the states (or is it 'the colonies'?) our premium grade fuel
has only 91-93 octane. These premium fuels also leave incredible deposits in
our combustion chambers that can only be cleaned out with a semi-annual
application of a trade-only chemical. UK cars get great mileage, and make
real HP. US cars with an = HP to weight ratio use 3 to 4 times as much fuel
per mile. Is it still a bargain? What's called 'trapped wind' in the UK -
would probably 'gas' our US cars better! If I knew which pub would welcome
me, I might live in the UK myself.
>
Original Message
> From: Jon [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=X2vDvXjZNNsfWEKrTbh7Mx2SemcspZk2DnHtgWumlK60aIQrBCH8UxraskTQ6ZS1991yH7aN42YuWWE]jonm@p...[/url
> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 1:10 PM
> To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: BS2p - alternatives
>
>
> Try warming it up and having bits floating in the bottom, then you'll
> have 'British real ale'
>
> Jon
>
> --- In basicstamps@y..., Rodent <daweasel@s...> wrote:
> > No, but we have crappy beer.
> >
> >
> >
Original Message
> >
> > Yeah but you guys don't have to pay $5 a gallon of petrol!!!!!
> >
> > WE DO....
> >
> > cry, cry
> >
> > thanks for your reply, what about the BASICX chip any ideas on that
> > little gem?
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
found a pub I was afraid to go in, and never got thrown out of one. I was
careful about avoiding football and political discussions though.
And if you get tired of UK beer, switch to cider -- DO NOT order an American
beer. They taste like they were filtered through soiled Y-fronts during the
boat ride over. I was shocked to find Rolling Rock was brewed over there
too...
Original Message
>If I knew which pub would welcome
> me, I might live in the UK myself.
> > Try warming it up and having bits floating in the bottom, then you'll
> > have 'British real ale'
> > > No, but we have crappy beer.
> > > Yeah but you guys don't have to pay $5 a gallon of petrol!!!!!
> > >
> > > WE DO....
further.
Higher octane fuel is actually less volatile (and therefore less likely to
burn) than lower octance fuel. Octane is introduced to reduce preignition
and knock, and to allow higher compression ratios to be run (higher
compression ratio = higher thermodynamic efficiency).
On another note (for those of us who like to store almost useless
information), the octance scale goes only to 100. After that, it is called
performance number (I believe). Most research into high performance
gasolines (petrols) was done in WWII in order to squeeze more performance
out of piston aeroengines.
Kyle
R. Kyle Schmidt, P. Eng.
Section Head, Control Systems and Instrumentation
Messier-Dowty Inc. "The Landing Gear Company"
kyle.schmidt@m...
>
Original Message
> From: Chris Loiacono (E-mail) [noparse]/noparse]SMTP:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=vBi4ZR2HvdLM0EODpPK0fLgCWN1PE_6XcgzisrrX2bNd7eNU0gpK615nLOp2Pn0Pi5soflea3w2JfAoRt_iuUzkI]chris01@t...[/url
> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 1:55 PM
> To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: BS2p - alternatives
>
> Heavy technical stuff today, eh?
>
> About the petrol, at the pumps in the UK you get much higher octane
> levels,
> and generally one grade of fuel. We get 3 grades: low octane; lower yet;
> and
> might burn. In the states (or is it 'the colonies'?) our premium grade
> fuel
> has only 91-93 octane. These premium fuels also leave incredible deposits
> in
> our combustion chambers that can only be cleaned out with a semi-annual
> application of a trade-only chemical. UK cars get great mileage, and make
> real HP. US cars with an = HP to weight ratio use 3 to 4 times as much
> fuel
> per mile. Is it still a bargain? What's called 'trapped wind' in the UK -
> would probably 'gas' our US cars better! If I knew which pub would welcome
> me, I might live in the UK myself.
>
> >
Original Message
> > From: Jon [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=mJcLpkxE0j-zN6eojs_NGuC0VnhCVv2rsS4sDDkgWVItIYVH0YSc_nzbJYeXC2d9T_q1ZqF2THd3uBc]jonm@p...[/url
> > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 1:10 PM
> > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: BS2p - alternatives
> >
> >
> > Try warming it up and having bits floating in the bottom, then you'll
> > have 'British real ale'
> >
> > Jon
> >
> > --- In basicstamps@y..., Rodent <daweasel@s...> wrote:
> > > No, but we have crappy beer.
> > >
> > >
> > >
Original Message
> > >
> > > Yeah but you guys don't have to pay $5 a gallon of petrol!!!!!
> > >
> > > WE DO....
> > >
> > > cry, cry
> > >
> > > thanks for your reply, what about the BASICX chip any ideas on that
> > > little gem?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
question!
It makes one wonder....how many just read the posts every day to get
ideas....that they then turn into dollars, while the rest of us are busy
making replies...Hmmmmmm...
So Kyle makes sense: more octane, handling higher comp ratios, as in all the
fine cars of Europe & the UK. I guess this is why all the small cars in the
Bond films can go so fast!
Chris
JOAT/MN
>
Original Message
> From: Schmidt, Kyle [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=xMGMLrXuITEtPAhhEGDOITF929uyF_bjvFpZZfvQZNjJ5w9MQ7zN6aRNpD8xLt-GroS2PyPhKkCsDk25dwsUiPD7KIb588E61BTs]kyle.schmidt@m...[/url
> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 2:14 PM
> To: 'basicstamps@yahoogroups.com'
> Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: BS2p - alternatives
>
>
> Since we are now so incredibly off topic, I don't mind taking it a bit
> further.
>
> Higher octane fuel is actually less volatile (and therefore
> less likely to
> burn) than lower octance fuel. Octane is introduced to
> reduce preignition
> and knock, and to allow higher compression ratios to be run (higher
> compression ratio = higher thermodynamic efficiency).
>
> On another note (for those of us who like to store almost useless
> information), the octance scale goes only to 100. After
> that, it is called
> performance number (I believe). Most research into high performance
> gasolines (petrols) was done in WWII in order to squeeze more
> performance
> out of piston aeroengines.
>
> Kyle
>
> R. Kyle Schmidt, P. Eng.
> Section Head, Control Systems and Instrumentation
> Messier-Dowty Inc. "The Landing Gear Company"
> kyle.schmidt@m...
>
> >
Original Message
> > From: Chris Loiacono (E-mail) [noparse]/noparse]SMTP:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=UGjIGE9tjciTorzKK_xPUM2HKMyIFeT8BVACTHUmGTTzUJJAqzFxehbKB4UtPDfT3pAg-YvP9xF3_NLn-OUmlQ]chris01@t...[/url
> > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 1:55 PM
> > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: BS2p - alternatives
> >
> > Heavy technical stuff today, eh?
> >
> > About the petrol, at the pumps in the UK you get much higher octane
> > levels,
> > and generally one grade of fuel. We get 3 grades: low
> octane; lower yet;
> > and
> > might burn. In the states (or is it 'the colonies'?) our
> premium grade
> > fuel
> > has only 91-93 octane. These premium fuels also leave
> incredible deposits
> > in
> > our combustion chambers that can only be cleaned out with a
> semi-annual
> > application of a trade-only chemical. UK cars get great
> mileage, and make
> > real HP. US cars with an = HP to weight ratio use 3 to 4
> times as much
> > fuel
> > per mile. Is it still a bargain? What's called 'trapped
> wind' in the UK -
> > would probably 'gas' our US cars better! If I knew which
> pub would welcome
> > me, I might live in the UK myself.
> >
> > >
Original Message
> > > From: Jon [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=XsH2m1g1B8ZcEKS7EC7p_-v6JoPBhetSuErXZ6jEOu-XalSdLBkKi5tGRAKrgrECM7XyPngMmQ]jonm@p...[/url
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 1:10 PM
> > > To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: BS2p - alternatives
> > >
> > >
> > > Try warming it up and having bits floating in the bottom,
> then you'll
> > > have 'British real ale'
> > >
> > > Jon
> > >
> > > --- In basicstamps@y..., Rodent <daweasel@s...> wrote:
> > > > No, but we have crappy beer.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
Original Message
> > > >
> > > > Yeah but you guys don't have to pay $5 a gallon of petrol!!!!!
> > > >
> > > > WE DO....
> > > >
> > > > cry, cry
> > > >
> > > > thanks for your reply, what about the BASICX chip any
> ideas on that
> > > > little gem?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
pnuematic actuators. The CNC is for fun, the postioning device for
profit.
I watch this list all the time, and once in awhile contribute. Seems
like a fair exchange.
Al Williams offers professional services and contributes in a very
high level engineering way on this group.
Tracy Allen also contributes in a very high level almost Phd manner
on op-amps.
I don't know how much they learn from the list, but they probably
contribute more than they receive.
I'm sure there are those lurkers who get ideas for their profit and
don't add to the hobbiest, but I believe they don't learn as much.
Seems in my experiance, when you try to tell someone the way
something is, you reaize your knoledge or lack of it. More than
once, I canceled and didn't post because I knew I was missing some
key element.
In my opinion, this list is what makes the Stamp worth so much. You
can go from complete novice to a functional toy or product by the
information garnered from right here.
If there are some lurkers who only take and don't contribute, well,
then this is a good representation of society. Those who produce
support those who don't. Thank God we're not taxed on our knoledge.
(actually, I'd be paying very little taxes then)
Dave
--- In basicstamps@y..., "Chris Loiacono (E-mail)" <chris01@t...>
wrote:
> See what I mean - there's somebody in this group for every
conceivable
> question!
> It makes one wonder....how many just read the posts every day to get
> ideas....that they then turn into dollars, while the rest of us are
busy
> making replies...Hmmmmmm...
>
> So Kyle makes sense: more octane, handling higher comp ratios, as
in all the
> fine cars of Europe & the UK. I guess this is why all the small
cars in the
> Bond films can go so fast!
>
> Chris
> JOAT/MN
>
> >
Original Message
> > From: Schmidt, Kyle [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:kyle.schmidt@m...]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 2:14 PM
> > To: 'basicstamps@y...'
> > Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: BS2p - alternatives
> >
> >
> > Since we are now so incredibly off topic, I don't mind taking it
a bit
> > further.
> >
> > Higher octane fuel is actually less volatile (and therefore
> > less likely to
> > burn) than lower octance fuel. Octane is introduced to
> > reduce preignition
> > and knock, and to allow higher compression ratios to be run
(higher
> > compression ratio = higher thermodynamic efficiency).
> >
> > On another note (for those of us who like to store almost useless
> > information), the octance scale goes only to 100. After
> > that, it is called
> > performance number (I believe). Most research into high
performance
> > gasolines (petrols) was done in WWII in order to squeeze more
> > performance
> > out of piston aeroengines.
> >
> > Kyle
> >
> > R. Kyle Schmidt, P. Eng.
> > Section Head, Control Systems and Instrumentation
> > Messier-Dowty Inc. "The Landing Gear Company"
> > kyle.schmidt@m...
> >
> > >
Original Message
> > > From: Chris Loiacono (E-mail) [noparse][[/noparse]SMTP:chris01@t...]
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 1:55 PM
> > > To: basicstamps@y...
> > > Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: BS2p - alternatives
> > >
> > > Heavy technical stuff today, eh?
> > >
> > > About the petrol, at the pumps in the UK you get much higher
octane
> > > levels,
> > > and generally one grade of fuel. We get 3 grades: low
> > octane; lower yet;
> > > and
> > > might burn. In the states (or is it 'the colonies'?) our
> > premium grade
> > > fuel
> > > has only 91-93 octane. These premium fuels also leave
> > incredible deposits
> > > in
> > > our combustion chambers that can only be cleaned out with a
> > semi-annual
> > > application of a trade-only chemical. UK cars get great
> > mileage, and make
> > > real HP. US cars with an = HP to weight ratio use 3 to 4
> > times as much
> > > fuel
> > > per mile. Is it still a bargain? What's called 'trapped
> > wind' in the UK -
> > > would probably 'gas' our US cars better! If I knew which
> > pub would welcome
> > > me, I might live in the UK myself.
> > >
> > > >
Original Message
> > > > From: Jon [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:jonm@p...]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 1:10 PM
> > > > To: basicstamps@y...
> > > > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: BS2p - alternatives
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Try warming it up and having bits floating in the bottom,
> > then you'll
> > > > have 'British real ale'
> > > >
> > > > Jon
> > > >
> > > > --- In basicstamps@y..., Rodent <daweasel@s...> wrote:
> > > > > No, but we have crappy beer.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
Original Message
> > > > >
> > > > > Yeah but you guys don't have to pay $5 a gallon of
petrol!!!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > WE DO....
> > > > >
> > > > > cry, cry
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks for your reply, what about the BASICX chip any
> > ideas on that
> > > > > little gem?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
cows, foot and mouth disease, oh and of course.... rain!
Jon
--- In basicstamps@y..., "Chris Loiacono (E-mail)" <chris01@t...>
wrote:
> Heavy technical stuff today, eh?
>
> About the petrol, at the pumps in the UK you get much higher octane
levels,
> and generally one grade of fuel. We get 3 grades: low octane; lower
yet; and
> might burn. In the states (or is it 'the colonies'?) our premium
grade fuel
> has only 91-93 octane. These premium fuels also leave incredible
deposits in
> our combustion chambers that can only be cleaned out with a semi-
annual
> application of a trade-only chemical. UK cars get great mileage,
and make
> real HP. US cars with an = HP to weight ratio use 3 to 4 times as
much fuel
> per mile. Is it still a bargain? What's called 'trapped wind' in
the UK -
> would probably 'gas' our US cars better! If I knew which pub would
welcome
> me, I might live in the UK myself.
>
> >
Original Message
> > From: Jon [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:jonm@p...]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 1:10 PM
> > To: basicstamps@y...
> > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: BS2p - alternatives
> >
> >
> > Try warming it up and having bits floating in the bottom, then
you'll
> > have 'British real ale'
> >
> > Jon
> >
> > --- In basicstamps@y..., Rodent <daweasel@s...> wrote:
> > > No, but we have crappy beer.
> > >
> > >
> > >
Original Message
> > >
> > > Yeah but you guys don't have to pay $5 a gallon of petrol!!!!!
> > >
> > > WE DO....
> > >
> > > cry, cry
> > >
> > > thanks for your reply, what about the BASICX chip any ideas on
that
> > > little gem?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
But, errr, it did actually rain a bit [noparse]:([/noparse]
Justin.
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From: Jon [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=h21G4-tDi_WtWw99IOvhUmNXr3--lvYlS0O6qoAvlPAANEjny6Z_aELDngVyx5ob2a_WM9dPC06I]jonm@p...[/url
Sent: 08 March 2001 23:24
To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: BS2p - alternatives
Yeah, it's great here in the UK, we've got rain, rain, rain, mad
cows, foot and mouth disease, oh and of course.... rain!
Jon
--- In basicstamps@y..., "Chris Loiacono (E-mail)" <chris01@t...>
wrote:
> Heavy technical stuff today, eh?
>
> About the petrol, at the pumps in the UK you get much higher octane
levels,
> and generally one grade of fuel. We get 3 grades: low octane; lower
yet; and
> might burn. In the states (or is it 'the colonies'?) our premium
grade fuel
> has only 91-93 octane. These premium fuels also leave incredible
deposits in
> our combustion chambers that can only be cleaned out with a semi-
annual
> application of a trade-only chemical. UK cars get great mileage,
and make
> real HP. US cars with an = HP to weight ratio use 3 to 4 times as
much fuel
> per mile. Is it still a bargain? What's called 'trapped wind' in
the UK -
> would probably 'gas' our US cars better! If I knew which pub would
welcome
> me, I might live in the UK myself.
>
> >
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> > From: Jon [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:jonm@p...]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 1:10 PM
> > To: basicstamps@y...
> > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: BS2p - alternatives
> >
> >
> > Try warming it up and having bits floating in the bottom, then
you'll
> > have 'British real ale'
> >
> > Jon
> >
> > --- In basicstamps@y..., Rodent <daweasel@s...> wrote:
> > > No, but we have crappy beer.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > > Yeah but you guys don't have to pay $5 a gallon of petrol!!!!!
> > >
> > > WE DO....
> > >
> > > cry, cry
> > >
> > > thanks for your reply, what about the BASICX chip any ideas on
that
> > > little gem?
> >
> >
> >
> >
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the BS2p end up with the weather? We've had discussions about the
octane level of petrol, beer, and the UK, is this what makes the
Stamps what they are? I think so!
Jon
--- In basicstamps@y..., "Justin" <justin@j...> wrote:
> Hey ! It was warm yesterday - about 10 degrees if my car computer
was right.
> But, errr, it did actually rain a bit [noparse]:([/noparse]
>
> Justin.
>
>
Original Message
> From: Jon [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:jonm@p...]
> Sent: 08 March 2001 23:24
> To: basicstamps@y...
> Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: BS2p - alternatives
>
>
> Yeah, it's great here in the UK, we've got rain, rain, rain, mad
> cows, foot and mouth disease, oh and of course.... rain!
>
> Jon
>
> --- In basicstamps@y..., "Chris Loiacono (E-mail)" <chris01@t...>
> wrote:
> > Heavy technical stuff today, eh?
> >
> > About the petrol, at the pumps in the UK you get much higher
octane
> levels,
> > and generally one grade of fuel. We get 3 grades: low octane;
lower
> yet; and
> > might burn. In the states (or is it 'the colonies'?) our premium
> grade fuel
> > has only 91-93 octane. These premium fuels also leave incredible
> deposits in
> > our combustion chambers that can only be cleaned out with a semi-
> annual
> > application of a trade-only chemical. UK cars get great mileage,
> and make
> > real HP. US cars with an = HP to weight ratio use 3 to 4 times as
> much fuel
> > per mile. Is it still a bargain? What's called 'trapped wind' in
> the UK -
> > would probably 'gas' our US cars better! If I knew which pub would
> welcome
> > me, I might live in the UK myself.
> >
> > >
Original Message
> > > From: Jon [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:jonm@p...]
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 1:10 PM
> > > To: basicstamps@y...
> > > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: BS2p - alternatives
> > >
> > >
> > > Try warming it up and having bits floating in the bottom, then
> you'll
> > > have 'British real ale'
> > >
> > > Jon
> > >
> > > --- In basicstamps@y..., Rodent <daweasel@s...> wrote:
> > > > No, but we have crappy beer.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
Original Message
> > > >
> > > > Yeah but you guys don't have to pay $5 a gallon of petrol!!!!!
> > > >
> > > > WE DO....
> > > >
> > > > cry, cry
> > > >
> > > > thanks for your reply, what about the BASICX chip any ideas
on
> that
> > > > little gem?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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> > >
> > >
>
>
>
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rain in the last 45 days or so. Of course, in Washington DC we have
foot-in-mouth disease. Our cows are not mad, just mean. On the upside, our
vegetable of the day is not always peas and carrots.
Wait 'till you see one of the U.S. gas pumps with 6 grades of gas -- all
from two tanks.
Original Message
> Yeah, it's great here in the UK, we've got rain, rain, rain, mad
> cows, foot and mouth disease, oh and of course.... rain!
Original Message
From: Chris Loiacono (E-mail) <chris01@t...>
To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 12:09 PM
Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: BS2p - alternatives
> See what I mean - there's somebody in this group for every conceivable
> question!
> It makes one wonder....how many just read the posts every day to get
> ideas....that they then turn into dollars, while the rest of us are busy
> making replies...Hmmmmmm...
>
> So Kyle makes sense: more octane, handling higher comp ratios, as in all
the
> fine cars of Europe & the UK. I guess this is why all the small cars in
the
> Bond films can go so fast!
>
> Chris
So that is why the British car I have in my garage has UK spec (higher
compression) pistons going into it, so I can make more efficient use of our
high quality fuel. Now if I can figure out how to get a BS2 to make those
Zenith Stromberg carburettors (UK spelling, I think) more efficient and all
that. Had to throw that in to steer this back on topic!
them. Afterward brewers had no real competition, and profit took priority over
taste. Try home brewing for the best taste, and use the Basic Stamp to count
the bubbles coming out of the air lock to gauge when its ready.
Don't know enough about gas to comment, except to ask the attendant in the
Philippines to please not smoke his cigarette while filing my car. Even if it
was the no-burn kind of gas. (g)
Bruce
Rodent wrote:
> They all will. Spent 3 weeks in Bristol / London / Manchester and never
> found a pub I was afraid to go in, and never got thrown out of one. I was
> careful about avoiding football and political discussions though.
>
> And if you get tired of UK beer, switch to cider -- DO NOT order an American
> beer. They taste like they were filtered through soiled Y-fronts during the
> boat ride over. I was shocked to find Rolling Rock was brewed over there
> too...
>
>
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>
> >If I knew which pub would welcome
> > me, I might live in the UK myself.
>
> > > Try warming it up and having bits floating in the bottom, then you'll
> > > have 'British real ale'
>
> > > > No, but we have crappy beer.
>
> > > > Yeah but you guys don't have to pay $5 a gallon of petrol!!!!!
> > > >
> > > > WE DO....
>
>
>
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I also have a lathe and milling machine. Still learning how to use it.
Would be very interested on your CNC conversion, as I would like to go in
that direction. Are you using a Basic Stamp do drive it ? Or what ?
Bruce
davemucha@j... wrote:
> I'm working on a CNC conversion, and a postioning device for
> pnuematic actuators. The CNC is for fun, the postioning device for
> profit.
>
> I watch this list all the time, and once in awhile contribute. Seems
> like a fair exchange.
>
> Al Williams offers professional services and contributes in a very
> high level engineering way on this group.
>
> Tracy Allen also contributes in a very high level almost Phd manner
> on op-amps.
>
> I don't know how much they learn from the list, but they probably
> contribute more than they receive.
>
> I'm sure there are those lurkers who get ideas for their profit and
> don't add to the hobbiest, but I believe they don't learn as much.
> Seems in my experiance, when you try to tell someone the way
> something is, you reaize your knoledge or lack of it. More than
> once, I canceled and didn't post because I knew I was missing some
> key element.
>
> In my opinion, this list is what makes the Stamp worth so much. You
> can go from complete novice to a functional toy or product by the
> information garnered from right here.
>
> If there are some lurkers who only take and don't contribute, well,
> then this is a good representation of society. Those who produce
> support those who don't. Thank God we're not taxed on our knoledge.
> (actually, I'd be paying very little taxes then)
>
> Dave
>
> --- In basicstamps@y..., "Chris Loiacono (E-mail)" <chris01@t...>
> wrote:
> > See what I mean - there's somebody in this group for every
> conceivable
> > question!
> > It makes one wonder....how many just read the posts every day to get
> > ideas....that they then turn into dollars, while the rest of us are
> busy
> > making replies...Hmmmmmm...
> >
> > So Kyle makes sense: more octane, handling higher comp ratios, as
> in all the
> > fine cars of Europe & the UK. I guess this is why all the small
> cars in the
> > Bond films can go so fast!
> >
> > Chris
> > JOAT/MN
> >
> > >
Original Message
> > > From: Schmidt, Kyle [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:kyle.schmidt@m...]
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 2:14 PM
> > > To: 'basicstamps@y...'
> > > Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: BS2p - alternatives
> > >
> > >
> > > Since we are now so incredibly off topic, I don't mind taking it
> a bit
> > > further.
> > >
> > > Higher octane fuel is actually less volatile (and therefore
> > > less likely to
> > > burn) than lower octance fuel. Octane is introduced to
> > > reduce preignition
> > > and knock, and to allow higher compression ratios to be run
> (higher
> > > compression ratio = higher thermodynamic efficiency).
> > >
> > > On another note (for those of us who like to store almost useless
> > > information), the octance scale goes only to 100. After
> > > that, it is called
> > > performance number (I believe). Most research into high
> performance
> > > gasolines (petrols) was done in WWII in order to squeeze more
> > > performance
> > > out of piston aeroengines.
> > >
> > > Kyle
> > >
> > > R. Kyle Schmidt, P. Eng.
> > > Section Head, Control Systems and Instrumentation
> > > Messier-Dowty Inc. "The Landing Gear Company"
> > > kyle.schmidt@m...
> > >
> > > >
Original Message
> > > > From: Chris Loiacono (E-mail) [noparse][[/noparse]SMTP:chris01@t...]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 1:55 PM
> > > > To: basicstamps@y...
> > > > Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: BS2p - alternatives
> > > >
> > > > Heavy technical stuff today, eh?
> > > >
> > > > About the petrol, at the pumps in the UK you get much higher
> octane
> > > > levels,
> > > > and generally one grade of fuel. We get 3 grades: low
> > > octane; lower yet;
> > > > and
> > > > might burn. In the states (or is it 'the colonies'?) our
> > > premium grade
> > > > fuel
> > > > has only 91-93 octane. These premium fuels also leave
> > > incredible deposits
> > > > in
> > > > our combustion chambers that can only be cleaned out with a
> > > semi-annual
> > > > application of a trade-only chemical. UK cars get great
> > > mileage, and make
> > > > real HP. US cars with an = HP to weight ratio use 3 to 4
> > > times as much
> > > > fuel
> > > > per mile. Is it still a bargain? What's called 'trapped
> > > wind' in the UK -
> > > > would probably 'gas' our US cars better! If I knew which
> > > pub would welcome
> > > > me, I might live in the UK myself.
> > > >
> > > > >
Original Message
> > > > > From: Jon [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:jonm@p...]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 1:10 PM
> > > > > To: basicstamps@y...
> > > > > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: BS2p - alternatives
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Try warming it up and having bits floating in the bottom,
> > > then you'll
> > > > > have 'British real ale'
> > > > >
> > > > > Jon
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In basicstamps@y..., Rodent <daweasel@s...> wrote:
> > > > > > No, but we have crappy beer.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
Original Message
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yeah but you guys don't have to pay $5 a gallon of
> petrol!!!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > WE DO....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > cry, cry
> > > > > >
> > > > > > thanks for your reply, what about the BASICX chip any
> > > ideas on that
> > > > > > little gem?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > > > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
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> > >
> > >
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