Stamp Editor Crashes
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When ever I download to the Stamp with the editor with the DEBUG
command in the code, the editor (stampw.exe) locks up right after the
Debug window pops up, requiring I do a Cntrl-Alt-Del / End Task to
recover.
I suspect this might be because I'm on Windows 2000. No problem when
I tried it on a Win98 laptop.
Anyone run into this?
Martin
command in the code, the editor (stampw.exe) locks up right after the
Debug window pops up, requiring I do a Cntrl-Alt-Del / End Task to
recover.
I suspect this might be because I'm on Windows 2000. No problem when
I tried it on a Win98 laptop.
Anyone run into this?
Martin
Comments
> When ever I download to the Stamp with the editor with the DEBUG
> command in the code, the editor (stampw.exe) locks up right after
the
> Debug window pops up, requiring I do a Cntrl-Alt-Del / End Task to
> recover.
>
> I suspect this might be because I'm on Windows 2000. No problem
when
> I tried it on a Win98 laptop.
>
> Anyone run into this?
>
> Martin
I'm glad it's not just me, I'm running NT4 and have exactly the same
thing, Annoying isn't it! JUST REMEMBER TO SAVE BEFORE RUNNING....
I didn't!!!!
Jon
port work OK with an external modem or another serial device?
Original Message
> When ever I download to the Stamp with the editor with the DEBUG
> command in the code, the editor (stampw.exe) locks up right after the
> Debug window pops up, requiring I do a Cntrl-Alt-Del / End Task to
> recover.
>
> I suspect this might be because I'm on Windows 2000. No problem when
> I tried it on a Win98 laptop.
My stamp, however, locks up every time I use debug. Lately I just use my
LCD display to help me debug.
Original Message
From: Rodent [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=XWFVC99aLfebj_uYB92N1E7XKSPAMMoIvWFD17TFN9oUgruwOWWeT5JEB2fVCVFcX3_BbM7g9mnMo_VW09I]daweasel@s...[/url
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 11:22 AM
To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Stamp Editor Crashes
Win2k is NT based and may have issues with the serial port. Does the serial
port work OK with an external modem or another serial device?
Original Message
> When ever I download to the Stamp with the editor with the DEBUG
> command in the code, the editor (stampw.exe) locks up right after the
> Debug window pops up, requiring I do a Cntrl-Alt-Del / End Task to
> recover.
>
> I suspect this might be because I'm on Windows 2000. No problem when
> I tried it on a Win98 laptop.
seems like they do some funny stuff with raising certain signals normally
used for handshaking, etc. In fact, as I recall, they don't even use the
RX/TX lines for data communication.
-- Mitch
Original Message
From: Shaun Bruce [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=VCeptbafgOJC-m1g4hVk-L6EAhIKwHlAHPq4wbNyvRIj_I1dBI1DcCEtyPPZa6BY8Qki7t3EqV4]s_bruce@y...[/url
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 12:59 PM
To: 'basicstamps@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Stamp Editor Crashes
I used NT4 with my Palm Pilot and my GPS. Both use serial and work fine.
My stamp, however, locks up every time I use debug. Lately I just use my
LCD display to help me debug.
Original Message
From: Rodent [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=aSLa_NSNAvg9od9lEHntevyPW1ushxj-9uVXl_0jZJoO3ZxZMOaE2JXNccPbzaCg7ifJRHYtivFolX8jvA]daweasel@s...[/url
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 11:22 AM
To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Stamp Editor Crashes
Win2k is NT based and may have issues with the serial port. Does the serial
port work OK with an external modem or another serial device?
Original Message
> When ever I download to the Stamp with the editor with the DEBUG
> command in the code, the editor (stampw.exe) locks up right after the
> Debug window pops up, requiring I do a Cntrl-Alt-Del / End Task to
> recover.
>
> I suspect this might be because I'm on Windows 2000. No problem when
> I tried it on a Win98 laptop.
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
of hardware is not possible with NT/2k without an appropriate driver. There
are several drivers out there ... seems like one might be available at
http://www.lvr.com (Jan Axleson's site ... I hope I got the URL right).
-- Mitch
Original Message
From: Shaun Bruce [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=R2x8kZ8JIhfO5tRjmlsvC8mhJc7Var41R_MIbRqc34S_ZXQJf0rn4UUIY-nmY14o69ON5JUaIpsnnYw]s_bruce@y...[/url
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 12:59 PM
To: 'basicstamps@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Stamp Editor Crashes
I used NT4 with my Palm Pilot and my GPS. Both use serial and work fine.
My stamp, however, locks up every time I use debug. Lately I just use my
LCD display to help me debug.
Original Message
From: Rodent [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=CmjD6rrMaPaQDBHbl0Z9ZzSOCuZgxoHbsmkXtCvpoo5WUuG4AAzw1XxODn2Y3t2qN0EWbBpA1N2MM26H0wk]daweasel@s...[/url
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 11:22 AM
To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Stamp Editor Crashes
Win2k is NT based and may have issues with the serial port. Does the serial
port work OK with an external modem or another serial device?
Original Message
> When ever I download to the Stamp with the editor with the DEBUG
> command in the code, the editor (stampw.exe) locks up right after the
> Debug window pops up, requiring I do a Cntrl-Alt-Del / End Task to
> recover.
>
> I suspect this might be because I'm on Windows 2000. No problem when
> I tried it on a Win98 laptop.
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
be the problem as NT is kinda goofy about running DOS stuff that talks to
the ports directly.
Original Message
> I used NT4 with my Palm Pilot and my GPS. Both use serial and work fine.
> My stamp, however, locks up every time I use debug. Lately I just use my
> LCD display to help me debug.
> Win2k is NT based and may have issues with the serial port. Does the
serial
> port work OK with an external modem or another serial device?
>
>
Original Message
>
> > When ever I download to the Stamp with the editor with the DEBUG
> > command in the code, the editor (stampw.exe) locks up right after the
> > Debug window pops up, requiring I do a Cntrl-Alt-Del / End Task to
> > recover.
> >
> > I suspect this might be because I'm on Windows 2000. No problem when
> > I tried it on a Win98 laptop.
Original Message
> Is the editor DOS or Windows based? I figure the Palm and GPS are. This
may
> be the problem as NT is kinda goofy about running DOS stuff that talks to
> the ports directly.
>
>
Original Message
>
> > I used NT4 with my Palm Pilot and my GPS. Both use serial and work
fine.
> > My stamp, however, locks up every time I use debug. Lately I just use
my
> > LCD display to help me debug.
> > Win2k is NT based and may have issues with the serial port. Does the
> serial
> > port work OK with an external modem or another serial device?
> >
> >
Original Message
> >
> > > When ever I download to the Stamp with the editor with the DEBUG
> > > command in the code, the editor (stampw.exe) locks up right after the
> > > Debug window pops up, requiring I do a Cntrl-Alt-Del / End Task to
> > > recover.
> > >
> > > I suspect this might be because I'm on Windows 2000. No problem when
> > > I tried it on a Win98 laptop.
Original Message
From: Rodent [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=85bZvFEK0rbyMu3fTNojUx_AXCRfC7Mi3AMjkif0kp8D8XkRzyJFL3x3eS3FOrZDaCwNfvtWrbuHjg]daweasel@s...[/url
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 12:35 PM
To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Stamp Editor Crashes
OOPS! Palm and GPS are probably Windows based.
Original Message
> Is the editor DOS or Windows based? I figure the Palm and GPS are. This
may
> be the problem as NT is kinda goofy about running DOS stuff that talks to
> the ports directly.
>
>
Original Message
>
> > I used NT4 with my Palm Pilot and my GPS. Both use serial and work
fine.
> > My stamp, however, locks up every time I use debug. Lately I just use
my
> > LCD display to help me debug.
> > Win2k is NT based and may have issues with the serial port. Does the
> serial
> > port work OK with an external modem or another serial device?
> >
> >
Original Message
> >
> > > When ever I download to the Stamp with the editor with the DEBUG
> > > command in the code, the editor (stampw.exe) locks up right after the
> > > Debug window pops up, requiring I do a Cntrl-Alt-Del / End Task to
> > > recover.
> > >
> > > I suspect this might be because I'm on Windows 2000. No problem when
> > > I tried it on a Win98 laptop.
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
with Win2k. If it does not, then you know it is not an issue with the Stamp
editor.
> The Palm and GPS ARE windows based.
> OOPS! Palm and GPS are probably Windows based.
> > Is the editor DOS or Windows based? I figure the Palm and GPS are. This
> may
> > be the problem as NT is kinda goofy about running DOS stuff that talks
to
> > the ports directly.
> >
> >
Original Message
> >
> > > I used NT4 with my Palm Pilot and my GPS. Both use serial and work
> fine.
> > > My stamp, however, locks up every time I use debug. Lately I just use
> my
> > > LCD display to help me debug.
> > > Win2k is NT based and may have issues with the serial port. Does the
> > serial
> > > port work OK with an external modem or another serial device?
> > >
> > >
Original Message
> > >
> > > > When ever I download to the Stamp with the editor with the DEBUG
> > > > command in the code, the editor (stampw.exe) locks up right after
the
> > > > Debug window pops up, requiring I do a Cntrl-Alt-Del / End Task to
> > > > recover.
> > > >
> > > > I suspect this might be because I'm on Windows 2000. No problem when
> > > > I tried it on a Win98 laptop.
a proprietary operating system called PalmOS. You certainly don't use the
same programming tools to write app's for the Palm Pilot as you use for
WinCE devices.
Just my $0.02
peter
> The Palm and GPS ARE windows based.
> OOPS! Palm and GPS are probably Windows based.
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
To clear things up: The PalmOS is NOT windows based, although the software
to sync the Palm with a PC IS windows based and uses the serial port. My
stamp editor seemed to work fine with the older editor when I was using a
BS2. I first noticed the PC locking up after I started using a BS2SX. Has
anyone else noticed this?
Original Message
From: Dr. Peter Charles [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=lHUWiK9tDz8PO4DLHDLR_65w--EBWADSRyLwAXcelOXZC2elp8P5vjUbw3nx6Nm0IzkSPLubYwD7XvLlLbU]pcharles@m...[/url
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 1:27 PM
To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Stamp Editor Crashes
I'm reasonably certain that the Palm Pilot is <<NOT>> Windows-based. It is
a proprietary operating system called PalmOS. You certainly don't use the
same programming tools to write app's for the Palm Pilot as you use for
WinCE devices.
Just my $0.02
peter
> The Palm and GPS ARE windows based.
> OOPS! Palm and GPS are probably Windows based.
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
You could be suffering from a device (IRQ) conflict on the PC. Check to see if
the Palm hotsync cable is using the same IRQ or COM port as the Editor. If they
are using the same resources, one needs to be shut down before the other is
started.
That's MY $0.02.
Tom
ago I downloaded the windows software on the parallax site...or off of
their cdrom...and it had a readme file titled
BASIC_Stamp_Windows_Interface_Readme.txt
Here's an excerpt and perhaps fix to your problem. It worked for me
anyway.
"KNOWN PROBLEMS
On Windows NT machines, the Debug Terminal can not be closed and code can
not be re-downloaded if the Stamp is no longer sending data to the PC.
This problem will be fixed in a future version as soon as possible. A
workaround is to press the close button on the Debug Terminal window and
then press the reset button on the Stamp board. As soon as the Stamp
sends at least one character to the serial port, the Debug Terminal will
close."
FYI, I'm running Windows 2000 with the windows version 1.096 of the Basic
Stamp Software. Perhaps this problem has been fixed in version 1.1 which
is now available on the parallax website.
Chris
---
>When ever I download to the Stamp with the editor with the DEBUG
>command in the code, the editor (stampw.exe) locks up right after the
>Debug window pops up, requiring I do a Cntrl-Alt-Del / End Task to
>recover.
>I suspect this might be because I'm on Windows 2000. No problem when
>I tried it on a Win98 laptop.
>Anyone run into this?
Original Message
> I'm reasonably certain that the Palm Pilot is <<NOT>> Windows-based. It
is
> a proprietary operating system called PalmOS. You certainly don't use the
> same programming tools to write app's for the Palm Pilot as you use for
> WinCE devices.
>
> Just my $0.02
> > The Palm and GPS ARE windows based.
>
> > OOPS! Palm and GPS are probably Windows based.
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
because I can send and receive between Hyperterminal and the Stamp
with no problems.
Another post in this thread has indicated StampW has NT/2000 issues.
Martin
--- In basicstamps@y..., Rodent <daweasel@s...> wrote:
> Win2k is NT based and may have issues with the serial port. Does
the serial
> port work OK with an external modem or another serial device?
>
>
Original Message
>
> > When ever I download to the Stamp with the editor with the DEBUG
> > command in the code, the editor (stampw.exe) locks up right after
the
> > Debug window pops up, requiring I do a Cntrl-Alt-Del / End Task to
> > recover.
> >
> > I suspect this might be because I'm on Windows 2000. No problem
when
> > I tried it on a Win98 laptop.
driver. DOS applications talk directly to the port, which can be a problem
with NT / Win2K. Try connecting to the stamp via something like the old DOS
Procomm or BananaTerm.
Original Message
> I believe the problem here is not the com port on the Win2k machine
> because I can send and receive between Hyperterminal and the Stamp
> with no problems.
>
> Another post in this thread has indicated StampW has NT/2000 issues.
version 1.1 and have had ZERO problems.
- Brice
Original Message
From: Chris <chris@v...>
To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 5:09 PM
Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Stamp Editor Crashes
I think I may have the same problem and perhaps a solution. Some time
ago I downloaded the windows software on the parallax site...or off of
their cdrom...and it had a readme file titled
BASIC_Stamp_Windows_Interface_Readme.txt
Here's an excerpt and perhaps fix to your problem. It worked for me
anyway.
"KNOWN PROBLEMS
On Windows NT machines, the Debug Terminal can not be closed and code can
not be re-downloaded if the Stamp is no longer sending data to the PC.
This problem will be fixed in a future version as soon as possible. A
workaround is to press the close button on the Debug Terminal window and
then press the reset button on the Stamp board. As soon as the Stamp
sends at least one character to the serial port, the Debug Terminal will
close."
FYI, I'm running Windows 2000 with the windows version 1.096 of the Basic
Stamp Software. Perhaps this problem has been fixed in version 1.1 which
is now available on the parallax website.
Chris
---
>When ever I download to the Stamp with the editor with the DEBUG
>command in the code, the editor (stampw.exe) locks up right after the
>Debug window pops up, requiring I do a Cntrl-Alt-Del / End Task to
>recover.
>I suspect this might be because I'm on Windows 2000. No problem when
>I tried it on a Win98 laptop.
>Anyone run into this?
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
command and Windows 2000. A new version of WStamp is due out in
August to deal with this...no workaround at this time.
John
--- In basicstamps@y..., martin@i... wrote:
> When ever I download to the Stamp with the editor with the DEBUG
> command in the code, the editor (stampw.exe) locks up right after
the
> Debug window pops up, requiring I do a Cntrl-Alt-Del / End Task to
> recover.
>
> I suspect this might be because I'm on Windows 2000. No problem
when
> I tried it on a Win98 laptop.
>
> Anyone run into this?
>
> Martin
debug window works fine as long as debug commands are being sent to
it and you don't hit the close button on the debug window. As soon
as you hit the close button and nothing is coming from your stamp the
program gets confused and hangs. If I then get the stamp to send
another debug the window will close normally and life is good.
I am glad someone here brought this up, I was planning on it, but
hadn't quite got around to it. I am heartened to hear that parallax
is planning on makeing the editor NT kernel compatible.