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Photodiodes?

ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2001-02-20 23:36 in General Discussion
Is there anyway to filter a photodiode to react to a certain wavelength
only? (red or green laser) Perhaps a way to strobe the laser and have the
stamp only react to photo sources of that frequency? Thanks.

Jeff

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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-02-19 15:30
    >Absolutely! It's done all the time.
    >Good narrow bandpass filters can be pricey,
    >though.
    >What are you trying to do?
    >--Stu Wrenn



    Stu,
    I am trying to use a laser and a photodiode array as a navigation tool for
    a robot. I would like to be able to shine a laser pointer at a particular
    object and have the robot home in on the dot. The maximum range of detection
    will be about 4 feet. I have had some successful experiments but things go
    awry under different lighting conditions. I will like to filter out as much
    "ambient" light as possible. Another Basicstamp subscriber emailed me off
    list about filters that were available through Edmunds scientific, but it
    looks like the laser pass filters have a pretty large spectral range.
    (around 900nm) I would assume that these filters have a peak efficiency at
    the target range and decrease from there. Do you think these filters are
    what I need? Thank you for your reply.

    Jeff
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-02-19 15:55
    wHAT IS PRICY FOR A "GOOD" BAND PASS FILTER AND WHERE MIGHT I HAVE ONE
    DESIGNED AND/OR BUILT?
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-02-19 16:51
    Jeff,

    Try this site:

    http://www.omegafilters.com/prod/laser_line.html

    Cheers,
    Doug

    On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Jeff Mitchell wrote:

    > >Absolutely! It's done all the time.
    > >Good narrow bandpass filters can be pricey,
    > >though.
    > >What are you trying to do?
    > >--Stu Wrenn
    >
    >
    >
    > Stu,
    > I am trying to use a laser and a photodiode array as a navigation tool for
    > a robot. I would like to be able to shine a laser pointer at a particular
    > object and have the robot home in on the dot. The maximum range of detection
    > will be about 4 feet. I have had some successful experiments but things go
    > awry under different lighting conditions. I will like to filter out as much
    > "ambient" light as possible. Another Basicstamp subscriber emailed me off
    > list about filters that were available through Edmunds scientific, but it
    > looks like the laser pass filters have a pretty large spectral range.
    > (around 900nm) I would assume that these filters have a peak efficiency at
    > the target range and decrease from there. Do you think these filters are
    > what I need? Thank you for your reply.
    >
    > Jeff
    >
    >
    >
    >
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-02-19 18:55
    Absolutely! It's done all the time.
    Good narrow bandpass filters can be pricey,
    though.
    What are you trying to do?
    --Stu Wrenn

    Original Message
    From: Jeff Mitchell <EL-JEFE@P...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 9:23 PM
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Photodiodes?


    > Is there anyway to filter a photodiode to react
    to a certain wavelength
    > only? (red or green laser) Perhaps a way to
    strobe the laser and have the
    > stamp only react to photo sources of that
    frequency? Thanks.
    >
    > Jeff
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-02-19 19:02
    At 1:23 AM -0400 2/19/01, Jeff Mitchell wrote:
    > Is there anyway to filter a photodiode to react to a certain wavelength
    >only? (red or green laser) Perhaps a way to strobe the laser and have the
    >stamp only react to photo sources of that frequency? Thanks.
    >
    >Jeff

    Another approach is to use a prism or a grating in a housing, and put
    the photodiode behind a mask to pick up the desired spectral line.

    -- Tracy
    electronically monitored ecosystems
    http://www.emesystems.com
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-02-19 19:20
    By "pricey" I mean $20 to $80 or so, depending on
    center wavelength, bandpass, size, mounting,
    environmental requirements, etc.
    The best place to start is Edmund Industrial
    Optics www.edmundoptics.com
    They also offer very good phone support for us
    non-optical engineers.

    Original Message
    From: Production Technology, L.L.C.
    <fixemerd@a...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 7:55 AM
    Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Photodiodes?


    > wHAT IS PRICY FOR A "GOOD" BAND PASS FILTER AND
    WHERE MIGHT I HAVE ONE
    > DESIGNED AND/OR BUILT?
    >
    >
    >
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-02-19 19:49
    There are a lot of robots using IR at 40 khz for object detection, could
    you use this idea and replace the IR led with a laser pulsed at 40 khz for
    detection rather than avoiding the object go to it. there are
    phototransistor's that are set for 38, 37 and 40 khz detection maybe other
    freq. also

    Jeff Mitchell wrote:
    >
    > Is there anyway to filter a photodiode to react to a certain wavelength
    > only? (red or green laser) Perhaps a way to strobe the laser and have the
    > stamp only react to photo sources of that frequency? Thanks.
    >
    > Jeff
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-02-20 02:20
    >OOPs, sorry! You did say laser POINTER.
    >Not much point in an invisible pointer is there?
    >I'd go for a narrow (say 20-30 nm or less) at
    >whatever
    >your laser's center wavelength is.
    >Are you using one of the linear diode array chips?
    >How wide is the acceptance angle of the system?
    >--Stu


    The laser I'm using right now is 670nm but they are cheaper than the
    filters so I guess my priority would be the narrowest filter I can find in a
    diode laser wavelength.
    I am not using one of the linear diode array chips. In fact, I have no
    earthly idea of what they are.[noparse]:)[/noparse] What are they? If they are as their name
    implies, I would assume they can differentiate between light sources falling
    on different sections of the array?
    The minimum acceptance angle of the entire system needs to be 45 degrees
    x,y . anything beyond that is gravy. Resolution is not critical, just the
    ability to keep the dot between the sensors.

    Another option concerns an earlier post by B.D. Hornback, that I read
    recently about a Mitsubishi camera and edge detection.
    http://members.home.net/daniel.herrington/gbcam.html This sounds great but
    I would like to avoid the use of a PC to interpret the data.
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-02-20 05:21
    Jeff-
    What wavelength is your laser? If it's IR, then a
    visible blocking filter should do the job. These
    are not very expensive. If you are using a
    visible laser, then a narrow bandpass filter would
    reduce but not eliminate the effects of ambient
    (visible) light. Modulating the laser might be
    the answer.
    --Stu

    Original Message
    From: Jeff Mitchell <EL-JEFE@P...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 7:30 AM
    Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Photodiodes?


    > >Absolutely! It's done all the time.
    > >Good narrow bandpass filters can be pricey,
    > >though.
    > >What are you trying to do?
    > >--Stu Wrenn
    >
    >
    >
    > Stu,
    > I am trying to use a laser and a photodiode
    array as a navigation tool for
    > a robot. I would like to be able to shine a
    laser pointer at a particular
    > object and have the robot home in on the dot.
    The maximum range of detection
    > will be about 4 feet. I have had some successful
    experiments but things go
    > awry under different lighting conditions. I will
    like to filter out as much
    > "ambient" light as possible. Another Basicstamp
    subscriber emailed me off
    > list about filters that were available through
    Edmunds scientific, but it
    > looks like the laser pass filters have a pretty
    large spectral range.
    > (around 900nm) I would assume that these filters
    have a peak efficiency at
    > the target range and decrease from there. Do you
    think these filters are
    > what I need? Thank you for your reply.
    >
    > Jeff
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-02-20 05:30
    Jeff Mitchell--

    OOPs, sorry! You did say laser POINTER.
    Not much point in an invisible pointer is there?
    I'd go for a narrow (say 20-30 nm or less) at
    whatever
    your laser's center wavelength is.
    Are you using one of the linear diode array chips?
    How wide is the acceptance angle of the system?
    --Stu
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-02-20 23:36
    Check interference filters at Edmond Scientific. For example:
    http://www.edmundoptics.com/IOD/DisplayProduct.cfm?productid=1936


    At 09:55 AM 2/19/2001 -0600, you wrote:
    >wHAT IS PRICY FOR A "GOOD" BAND PASS FILTER AND WHERE MIGHT I HAVE ONE
    >DESIGNED AND/OR BUILT?
    >
    >
    >Reply-To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    >From: "Stu Wrenn" <swrenn@z...>
    >To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
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    >Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Photodiodes?
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