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ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2001-02-09 16:25 in General Discussion
Hello stampers,
Can anybody tell me an easy way to have a stamp i/o sense current flow of a 240v ac motor.
I need a logic 0 or 5v when the motor current exceeds 1 Amp or so. The motor generally draws
from 4 to 10 Amps when under load. Any help would be appreciated.
Chris

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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-02-04 23:21
    Hi Chris,

    I've had good success doing something similar (although it was a DC
    application) using reed switches and a heavy conductor coil wrapped around
    the reed. Things to watch out for are not winding the coil too tightly
    around the reed (if a heavy current application the wire will expand and
    break the reed glass) - wind so a bit of slop is there using something like
    a screwdriver. Also use a wire size for the current carrying capacity of
    the job having in mind the less the current the more the turns required to
    operate the reed and vice versa.

    Not sure how this will go with AC although but give it a try - the worse
    that can happen is the reed will vibrate at 100hz (each cycle) be careful
    with the coil - it will be at full mains potential! You can use a bridge
    rectifier and filter cap (rated at >350VDC to smooth the supply feeding your
    coil [noparse][[/noparse]still at mains potential!] or use a current sense transformer etc,.

    If you need more info drop me a line and I'll sketch/fax it to you.

    Regards,
    Bill



    At 07:14 05-02-01 +0800, you wrote:
    >Hello stampers,
    >Can anybody tell me an easy way to have a stamp i/o sense current flow of a
    240v ac motor.
    >I need a logic 0 or 5v when the motor current exceeds 1 Amp or so. The
    motor generally draws
    >from 4 to 10 Amps when under load. Any help would be appreciated.
    >Chris
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-02-04 23:50
    Another approach would be to use one of the current transformers in
    the jameco cat. then you could use a ADC, opamp or comparitor for the
    voltage leval needed. These coils fit arround the wire like a clamp on
    amp meter. if you use the adc approach you not only have a high level
    you can program but you can look for loose belts, bearings going bad (
    the current will go up slightly over normal ) and log the data for
    reff.

    > Chris Anderson wrote:
    >
    > Hello stampers,
    > Can anybody tell me an easy way to have a stamp i/o sense current
    > flow of a 240v ac motor.
    > I need a logic 0 or 5v when the motor current exceeds 1 Amp or so.
    > The motor generally draws
    > from 4 to 10 Amps when under load. Any help would be appreciated.
    > Chris
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-02-08 01:50
    On Sun, 04 Feb 2001 15:50:24 -0800 Larry gaminde <lgaminde@t...>
    writes:
    > Another approach would be to use one of the current transformers in
    > the jameco cat. then you could use a ADC, opamp or comparitor for
    > the voltage leval needed. --clip

    Not sure I understand how this would work... the output of the current
    xformer would be a 60 Hz signal... how would you do this with an ADC,
    opamp, or comarator without using an RMS convertor (AD637) as well? As
    the current in a motor is not a pure sin wave doesn't this complicate
    matters since the true RMS current is different than the average current?
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-02-09 16:25
    Well I was thinking of using diodes full wave or half wave bridge, I
    wasn't aware that the motor would affect the input line like this.

    agarb@j... wrote:
    >
    > On Sun, 04 Feb 2001 15:50:24 -0800 Larry gaminde <lgaminde@t...>
    > writes:
    > > Another approach would be to use one of the current transformers in
    > > the jameco cat. then you could use a ADC, opamp or comparitor for
    > > the voltage leval needed. --clip
    >
    > Not sure I understand how this would work... the output of the current
    > xformer would be a 60 Hz signal... how would you do this with an ADC,
    > opamp, or comarator without using an RMS convertor (AD637) as well? As
    > the current in a motor is not a pure sin wave doesn't this complicate
    > matters since the true RMS current is different than the average current?
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