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From: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sunday, January 28, 2001 6:40 AM
Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Digest Number 446
>There are 3 messages in this issue.
>
>Topics in this digest:
>
> 1. Re: Relay's
> From: davemucha@h...
> 2. Re: Relay's
> From: immolation@h...
> 3. Sonar
> From: "john & lisa" <johnlisa@c...>
>
>
>________________________________________________________________________
>________________________________________________________________________
>
>Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 06:23:00 -0000
> From: davemucha@h...
>Subject: Re: Relay's
>
>One of the basics is that by the ratings you listed, you have an
>electromechanical relay. They use an electromagnet to change the
>state of the contacts and you can expect a bounce, see bounce in the
>Stamp documentation for the characteristics.
>
>If you have this puppy connected to the same power as the stamp, you
>may see switching problems. That is to say when you energize the
>coil, you may see the Stamp power supply change (drop) Also, if you
>are powering any high voltage/high power, make sure the Stamp power
>supply is not effected.
>
>The ratings on the side are typically maximum AC current, maximum DC
>current and the maximum induction load, say for an electric motor.
>Just use the ones that apply to your application.
>
>There should be another rating and that is the coil voltage. It
>might just be 24VAC on the side in letters, or printed on the coil
>inside of the unit if the case is clear. you can expect from around
>5 volts to 220 volts for typical relays, so you will need to get the
>coil voltage to power it properly.
>
>Dave
>
>
>
>
>--- In basicstamps@y..., "Tim Goldstein" <timg@k...> wrote:
>> Go to http://www.ktmarketing.com/CNC.html and select the 5th link
>from the
>> top titled "Parallel Port Hookup to Controller". At the bottom of
>that page
>> you will find an explaination and a diagram on how to use a
>transistor ( a
>> 2N2222 will work fine) to drive a relay. Don't forget to get a
>diode also or
>> you will likely pop the transistor. Just replace the term PC and
>Printer
>> port with Stamp.
>>
>> Tim
>> [noparse][[/noparse]Denver, CO]
>>
>> >
Original Message
>> > From: immolation@h... [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:immolation@h...]
>> > Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 8:30 PM
>> > To: basicstamps@y...
>> > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Relay's
>> >
>> >
>> > Ok, i know absolutely nothing about transistors
I'll go pick
>some
>> > up tomorrow though, is there a specific rating that i should get?
>And
>> > am i correct in assuming that i just put them in series with the
>> > relay and the stamp?
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > --- In basicstamps@y..., "Mark Hillier" <Mark@H...> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Hmm, i was planning on just hooking the relay directly into
>the
>> > pins. The
>> > > > relays that i have are marked on the side: 0.6A 125VAC 2A
>80VDC
>> > 0.6A
>> > > > 110VDC
>> > >
>> > > These are the *contact* ratings; they have nothing to do with
>the
>> > > voltage or current required to operate the coil.
>> > >
>> > > > so looks like there is no way the stamp will put out enough
>for
>> > this,
>> > > > whats the alternative for hooking these up?
>> > >
>> > > You will need to drive a transistor with the Stamp pin and have
>the
>> > > transistor drive the relay coil.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Mark Hillier, VE6HVW
>> > > President, HVW Technologies Inc.
>> > > Canadian Distributors of Parallax Products and other Neat Stuff
>> > > Tel: +403-730-8603 Fax: +403-730-8903
>> > > See our NEW BASIC Stamp Prototyping tools !
>> > > http://www.hvwtech.com/stampstack.htm
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>
>
>
>________________________________________________________________________
>________________________________________________________________________
>
>Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 09:54:40 -0000
> From: immolation@h...
>Subject: Re: Relay's
>
>Hmm, i've only got one of these relay's so far, and i need about 9
>more so is there any easier way of just turning a 12v circuit on/off
>from the stamp? Solid state relay's perhaps?
>
>Anyways, here is the exact relay i have
>: http://oeiwcs.omron.com/webapp/commerce/command/ProductDisplay?
>prrfnbr=552&prmenbr=316
>
>its the G6A-274P-ST-US
>
>Thanks for all your help guys
>
>--- In basicstamps@y..., davemucha@h... wrote:
>> One of the basics is that by the ratings you listed, you have an
>> electromechanical relay. They use an electromagnet to change the
>> state of the contacts and you can expect a bounce, see bounce in
>the
>> Stamp documentation for the characteristics.
>>
>> If you have this puppy connected to the same power as the stamp,
>you
>> may see switching problems. That is to say when you energize the
>> coil, you may see the Stamp power supply change (drop) Also, if
>you
>> are powering any high voltage/high power, make sure the Stamp power
>> supply is not effected.
>>
>> The ratings on the side are typically maximum AC current, maximum
>DC
>> current and the maximum induction load, say for an electric motor.
>> Just use the ones that apply to your application.
>>
>> There should be another rating and that is the coil voltage. It
>> might just be 24VAC on the side in letters, or printed on the coil
>> inside of the unit if the case is clear. you can expect from
>around
>> 5 volts to 220 volts for typical relays, so you will need to get
>the
>> coil voltage to power it properly.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --- In basicstamps@y..., "Tim Goldstein" <timg@k...> wrote:
>> > Go to http://www.ktmarketing.com/CNC.html and select the 5th link
>> from the
>> > top titled "Parallel Port Hookup to Controller". At the bottom of
>> that page
>> > you will find an explaination and a diagram on how to use a
>> transistor ( a
>> > 2N2222 will work fine) to drive a relay. Don't forget to get a
>> diode also or
>> > you will likely pop the transistor. Just replace the term PC and
>> Printer
>> > port with Stamp.
>> >
>> > Tim
>> > [noparse][[/noparse]Denver, CO]
>> >
>> > >
Original Message
>> > > From: immolation@h... [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:immolation@h...]
>> > > Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 8:30 PM
>> > > To: basicstamps@y...
>> > > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Relay's
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Ok, i know absolutely nothing about transistors I'll go pick
>> some
>> > > up tomorrow though, is there a specific rating that i should
>get?
>> And
>> > > am i correct in assuming that i just put them in series with the
>> > > relay and the stamp?
>> > >
>> > > Thanks
>> > >
>> > > --- In basicstamps@y..., "Mark Hillier" <Mark@H...> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Hmm, i was planning on just hooking the relay directly into
>> the
>> > > pins. The
>> > > > > relays that i have are marked on the side: 0.6A 125VAC 2A
>> 80VDC
>> > > 0.6A
>> > > > > 110VDC
>> > > >
>> > > > These are the *contact* ratings; they have nothing to do with
>> the
>> > > > voltage or current required to operate the coil.
>> > > >
>> > > > > so looks like there is no way the stamp will put out enough
>> for
>> > > this,
>> > > > > whats the alternative for hooking these up?
>> > > >
>> > > > You will need to drive a transistor with the Stamp pin and
>have
>> the
>> > > > transistor drive the relay coil.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Mark Hillier, VE6HVW
>> > > > President, HVW Technologies Inc.
>> > > > Canadian Distributors of Parallax Products and other Neat
>Stuff
>> > > > Tel: +403-730-8603 Fax: +403-730-8903
>> > > > See our NEW BASIC Stamp Prototyping tools !
>> > > > http://www.hvwtech.com/stampstack.htm
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>
>
>
>________________________________________________________________________
>________________________________________________________________________
>
>Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 14:25:04 -0000
> From: "john & lisa" <johnlisa@c...>
>Subject: Sonar
>
>Can anyone tell me how to take the 'distance' reading that the Polariod
6500
>generates to the stamp, and tell the stamp to move that 'distance'. I can
>quite easily programme each individually but I can't figure out from the
>Stamp manual how to use the reading I get from my sonar board, and tell the
>motors to either move that distance or stop, depending how close it is to
an
>object.
>Many, many thanks in advance to anyone who is able to solve this problem,
>which I've been trying to solve for months.
>
John
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>-
>
>
>
>________________________________________________________________________
>________________________________________________________________________
>
>
>
>
Original Message
From: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sunday, January 28, 2001 6:40 AM
Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Digest Number 446
>There are 3 messages in this issue.
>
>Topics in this digest:
>
> 1. Re: Relay's
> From: davemucha@h...
> 2. Re: Relay's
> From: immolation@h...
> 3. Sonar
> From: "john & lisa" <johnlisa@c...>
>
>
>________________________________________________________________________
>________________________________________________________________________
>
>Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 06:23:00 -0000
> From: davemucha@h...
>Subject: Re: Relay's
>
>One of the basics is that by the ratings you listed, you have an
>electromechanical relay. They use an electromagnet to change the
>state of the contacts and you can expect a bounce, see bounce in the
>Stamp documentation for the characteristics.
>
>If you have this puppy connected to the same power as the stamp, you
>may see switching problems. That is to say when you energize the
>coil, you may see the Stamp power supply change (drop) Also, if you
>are powering any high voltage/high power, make sure the Stamp power
>supply is not effected.
>
>The ratings on the side are typically maximum AC current, maximum DC
>current and the maximum induction load, say for an electric motor.
>Just use the ones that apply to your application.
>
>There should be another rating and that is the coil voltage. It
>might just be 24VAC on the side in letters, or printed on the coil
>inside of the unit if the case is clear. you can expect from around
>5 volts to 220 volts for typical relays, so you will need to get the
>coil voltage to power it properly.
>
>Dave
>
>
>
>
>--- In basicstamps@y..., "Tim Goldstein" <timg@k...> wrote:
>> Go to http://www.ktmarketing.com/CNC.html and select the 5th link
>from the
>> top titled "Parallel Port Hookup to Controller". At the bottom of
>that page
>> you will find an explaination and a diagram on how to use a
>transistor ( a
>> 2N2222 will work fine) to drive a relay. Don't forget to get a
>diode also or
>> you will likely pop the transistor. Just replace the term PC and
>Printer
>> port with Stamp.
>>
>> Tim
>> [noparse][[/noparse]Denver, CO]
>>
>> >
Original Message
>> > From: immolation@h... [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:immolation@h...]
>> > Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 8:30 PM
>> > To: basicstamps@y...
>> > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Relay's
>> >
>> >
>> > Ok, i know absolutely nothing about transistors
I'll go pick>some
>> > up tomorrow though, is there a specific rating that i should get?
>And
>> > am i correct in assuming that i just put them in series with the
>> > relay and the stamp?
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > --- In basicstamps@y..., "Mark Hillier" <Mark@H...> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Hmm, i was planning on just hooking the relay directly into
>the
>> > pins. The
>> > > > relays that i have are marked on the side: 0.6A 125VAC 2A
>80VDC
>> > 0.6A
>> > > > 110VDC
>> > >
>> > > These are the *contact* ratings; they have nothing to do with
>the
>> > > voltage or current required to operate the coil.
>> > >
>> > > > so looks like there is no way the stamp will put out enough
>for
>> > this,
>> > > > whats the alternative for hooking these up?
>> > >
>> > > You will need to drive a transistor with the Stamp pin and have
>the
>> > > transistor drive the relay coil.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Mark Hillier, VE6HVW
>> > > President, HVW Technologies Inc.
>> > > Canadian Distributors of Parallax Products and other Neat Stuff
>> > > Tel: +403-730-8603 Fax: +403-730-8903
>> > > See our NEW BASIC Stamp Prototyping tools !
>> > > http://www.hvwtech.com/stampstack.htm
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>
>
>
>________________________________________________________________________
>________________________________________________________________________
>
>Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 09:54:40 -0000
> From: immolation@h...
>Subject: Re: Relay's
>
>Hmm, i've only got one of these relay's so far, and i need about 9
>more so is there any easier way of just turning a 12v circuit on/off
>from the stamp? Solid state relay's perhaps?
>
>Anyways, here is the exact relay i have
>: http://oeiwcs.omron.com/webapp/commerce/command/ProductDisplay?
>prrfnbr=552&prmenbr=316
>
>its the G6A-274P-ST-US
>
>Thanks for all your help guys
>
>--- In basicstamps@y..., davemucha@h... wrote:
>> One of the basics is that by the ratings you listed, you have an
>> electromechanical relay. They use an electromagnet to change the
>> state of the contacts and you can expect a bounce, see bounce in
>the
>> Stamp documentation for the characteristics.
>>
>> If you have this puppy connected to the same power as the stamp,
>you
>> may see switching problems. That is to say when you energize the
>> coil, you may see the Stamp power supply change (drop) Also, if
>you
>> are powering any high voltage/high power, make sure the Stamp power
>> supply is not effected.
>>
>> The ratings on the side are typically maximum AC current, maximum
>DC
>> current and the maximum induction load, say for an electric motor.
>> Just use the ones that apply to your application.
>>
>> There should be another rating and that is the coil voltage. It
>> might just be 24VAC on the side in letters, or printed on the coil
>> inside of the unit if the case is clear. you can expect from
>around
>> 5 volts to 220 volts for typical relays, so you will need to get
>the
>> coil voltage to power it properly.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --- In basicstamps@y..., "Tim Goldstein" <timg@k...> wrote:
>> > Go to http://www.ktmarketing.com/CNC.html and select the 5th link
>> from the
>> > top titled "Parallel Port Hookup to Controller". At the bottom of
>> that page
>> > you will find an explaination and a diagram on how to use a
>> transistor ( a
>> > 2N2222 will work fine) to drive a relay. Don't forget to get a
>> diode also or
>> > you will likely pop the transistor. Just replace the term PC and
>> Printer
>> > port with Stamp.
>> >
>> > Tim
>> > [noparse][[/noparse]Denver, CO]
>> >
>> > >
Original Message
>> > > From: immolation@h... [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:immolation@h...]
>> > > Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 8:30 PM
>> > > To: basicstamps@y...
>> > > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: Relay's
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Ok, i know absolutely nothing about transistors
I'll go pick>> some
>> > > up tomorrow though, is there a specific rating that i should
>get?
>> And
>> > > am i correct in assuming that i just put them in series with the
>> > > relay and the stamp?
>> > >
>> > > Thanks
>> > >
>> > > --- In basicstamps@y..., "Mark Hillier" <Mark@H...> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Hmm, i was planning on just hooking the relay directly into
>> the
>> > > pins. The
>> > > > > relays that i have are marked on the side: 0.6A 125VAC 2A
>> 80VDC
>> > > 0.6A
>> > > > > 110VDC
>> > > >
>> > > > These are the *contact* ratings; they have nothing to do with
>> the
>> > > > voltage or current required to operate the coil.
>> > > >
>> > > > > so looks like there is no way the stamp will put out enough
>> for
>> > > this,
>> > > > > whats the alternative for hooking these up?
>> > > >
>> > > > You will need to drive a transistor with the Stamp pin and
>have
>> the
>> > > > transistor drive the relay coil.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Mark Hillier, VE6HVW
>> > > > President, HVW Technologies Inc.
>> > > > Canadian Distributors of Parallax Products and other Neat
>Stuff
>> > > > Tel: +403-730-8603 Fax: +403-730-8903
>> > > > See our NEW BASIC Stamp Prototyping tools !
>> > > > http://www.hvwtech.com/stampstack.htm
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>
>
>
>________________________________________________________________________
>________________________________________________________________________
>
>Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 14:25:04 -0000
> From: "john & lisa" <johnlisa@c...>
>Subject: Sonar
>
>Can anyone tell me how to take the 'distance' reading that the Polariod
6500
>generates to the stamp, and tell the stamp to move that 'distance'. I can
>quite easily programme each individually but I can't figure out from the
>Stamp manual how to use the reading I get from my sonar board, and tell the
>motors to either move that distance or stop, depending how close it is to
an
>object.
>Many, many thanks in advance to anyone who is able to solve this problem,
>which I've been trying to solve for months.
>
John
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>-
>
>
>
>________________________________________________________________________
>________________________________________________________________________
>
>
>
>