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A/d 0831

ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2000-12-15 19:37 in General Discussion
Is there a simple way of using the 0831 to measure the output of a
radio receiver and graphing it to stamplot2?
I have the Industrial controls book and the BOE kit?
I made the temp circuit and it worked.
Instead of two traces I only need one and it needs to graph a minimum
of six hours.
Can this be donesimply or what do I have to do? I really need this
for my radio astronomy receiver recording.
Thanks if you can help
Jim

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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-12-15 18:29
    Jim,
    How fast are the blips you want to capture? I know very little about radio
    telescopes, but all DSP projects require first estimating the bandwidth of
    the recorded signal, and then sampling at a minimum of twice the highest
    frequency of interest (Nyquist theorem). With real-world noisy signals, it
    is better to sample at 5-10 times the highest frequency of interest. Other
    issues include first low-pass analog filtering the received signal to avoid
    distortion due to "aliasing" -- the effect that causes wagon wheels to
    appear to be turning backwards in old western films. Also, data streaming
    for continuous plotting over 6 hours might require "double buffering" to
    avoid missed data. That means sending data to one data array while
    simultaneously writing out data from a second array, and then switching the
    arrays.
    All these tricks of the DSP world have been done for decades with some
    pretty slow computers (in my case, event recording from low-energy nuclear
    particle detectors), so my best guess is that you can do them better and
    easier with the newer generation of Stamps.
    Dennis
    (A former physics grad student who switched to biophysics.)

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    Is there a simple way of using the 0831 to measure the output of a
    radio receiver and graphing it to stamplot2?
    I have the Industrial controls book and the BOE kit?
    I made the temp circuit and it worked.
    Instead of two traces I only need one and it needs to graph a minimum
    of six hours.
    Can this be donesimply or what do I have to do? I really need this
    for my radio astronomy receiver recording.
    Thanks if you can help
    Jim
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-12-15 19:37
    Well I currently am recording the blips from an LNB at 12ghz
    downconverted to 1450mhz.THen using a modified Sat detector to an A/D
    on the parallel port. Using Ned's software in basic for recording
    HEP's from outside the earth environs. It's doing a good job of it.
    I'm trying to get the pulses to a more compact situation for
    portability. It will record and average, the software will, the
    photons no matter how many or how few. I dont have to worry about the
    stamp as the speed is taken care of and averaged in the software. I
    want to use the stampplot pro as thats on one of my computers and
    would seriously want to use it as it saves to a floppy without a
    lotta voodoo going on. I currently have been reading the Sun and the
    Galaxy center, the moon and certain stars and some other unidentified
    sources. This is just the beginning as I want to show some kids how
    easy this is and how interesting. I'm a disabled Korean war vet at 67
    with Cardiac problems to name a few. I just want to do this. and its
    fun. Science is one of most beautiful things when in the right view
    point. I went in as a computer lead man for Control DAta Corp, then a
    broadcast engineer, then an analytical chemist. Physics is the one
    love I have always had and will never give up.
    Thanks, Jim
    > Jim,
    > How fast are the blips you want to capture? I know very little
    about radio
    > telescopes, but all DSP projects require first estimating the
    bandwidth of
    > the recorded signal, and then sampling at a minimum of twice the
    highest
    > frequency of interest (Nyquist theorem). With real-world noisy
    signals, it
    > is better to sample at 5-10 times the highest frequency of
    interest. Other
    > issues include first low-pass analog filtering the received signal
    to avoid
    > distortion due to "aliasing" -- the effect that causes wagon wheels
    to
    > appear to be turning backwards in old western films. Also, data
    streaming
    > for continuous plotting over 6 hours might require "double
    buffering" to
    > avoid missed data. That means sending data to one data array while
    > simultaneously writing out data from a second array, and then
    switching the
    > arrays.
    > All these tricks of the DSP world have been done for decades with
    some
    > pretty slow computers (in my case, event recording from low-energy
    nuclear
    > particle detectors), so my best guess is that you can do them
    better and
    > easier with the newer generation of Stamps.
    > Dennis
    > (A former physics grad student who switched to biophysics.)
    >
    >
    Original Message
    > From: James Hardy [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:jahardy33@h...]
    > Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 10:01 AM
    > To: basicstamps@egroups.com
    > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] A/D 0831
    >
    >
    > Is there a simple way of using the 0831 to measure the output of a
    > radio receiver and graphing it to stamplot2?
    > I have the Industrial controls book and the BOE kit?
    > I made the temp circuit and it worked.
    > Instead of two traces I only need one and it needs to graph a
    minimum
    > of six hours.
    > Can this be donesimply or what do I have to do? I really need this
    > for my radio astronomy receiver recording.
    > Thanks if you can help
    > Jim
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