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alternatives for 555

ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2000-12-08 02:39 in General Discussion
hello all,

I've read here that the 555 is very sensitive for temperature, what
alternatives do i have to create a square wave of 38 khz that is
stable for the temperature, beside the 555. I do not want to use the
bs2 for this purpose.

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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-12-07 17:21
    PJ,

    That's a myth. The data sheet for National's LMC555, ferinstance, gives
    typical timing sensitivity to temperature as 75ppm/degree C (over -40 to
    +85 degrees C). It's never going to be as stable as a crystal oscillator,
    but it's often adequate if you use a stable capacitor (e.g. COG ceramic,
    mica, polystyrene).

    >I've read here that the 555 is very sensitive for temperature, what
    >alternatives do i have to create a square wave of 38 khz that is
    >stable for the temperature, beside the 555. I do not want to use the
    >bs2 for this purpose.

    Mike Hardwick, for Decade Engineering -- <http://www.decadenet.com>
    Manufacturer of the famous BOB-II Serial Video Text Display Module!
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-12-07 18:12
    A very STABLE 40khz generator

    (From Rodney Radford)

    A circuit that I have used before is based on the CD4060 (14stage
    binary counter) and a 640Khz ceramic
    resonator. The CD4060 is basically an oscillator and a ripple counter
    to divide the 640khz down to something
    more usable.

    Here is the pinout of the CD4060 (frequencies are assuming a 640khz
    input signal into pins 10/11/12 - circuit
    shown below):

    +-\/-+
    160hz 1 | | 16 Vcc
    80hz 2 | | 15 625hz
    40hz 3 | | 14 2.5khz
    10khz 4 | | 13 125hz
    20khz 5 | | 12 \
    5khz 6 | | 11 >---- see sub-circuit below
    40khz 7 | | 10 /
    GND 8 | | 9 NC
    +----+


    Sub-circuit for a 640khz ceramic resonator:

    12 >
    +
    740pf | (you may be able to obtain
    11 >
    +----+---|(----+ a resonator with builtin
    | | | capacitors and three leads)
    640khz --- \ |
    res. O / 1Mohm |
    --- \ |
    | | |
    10 >
    +----+---|(----+
    740pf |
    GND >
    +



    A nice part about this circuit is that it delivers a STABLE 40khz
    signal, as well as delivering several other
    frequencies that can be used to modulate the 40khz carrier. For
    example, the person that designed this
    circuit (Ken Boone, member of Triangle Amateur Robotics) used it to
    build several beacons in his yard to serve
    as navigation points for a robotic lawnmower. By diode-OR'ing the
    results of the 40khz carrier and one of the
    lower frequencies (such as the 125Hz) line to drive a ring of IR-LEDs,
    he could locate the beacon and tell
    which, of several, beacons he had found.

    This circuit has proven to be VERY stable, and is fairly inexpensive
    (about $1.50 for the CD4060 and 640Khz
    ceramic resonator).





    Mike Hardwick wrote:
    >
    > PJ,
    >
    > That's a myth. The data sheet for National's LMC555, ferinstance, gives
    > typical timing sensitivity to temperature as 75ppm/degree C (over -40 to
    > +85 degrees C). It's never going to be as stable as a crystal oscillator,
    > but it's often adequate if you use a stable capacitor (e.g. COG ceramic,
    > mica, polystyrene).
    >
    > >I've read here that the 555 is very sensitive for temperature, what
    > >alternatives do i have to create a square wave of 38 khz that is
    > >stable for the temperature, beside the 555. I do not want to use the
    > >bs2 for this purpose.
    >
    > Mike Hardwick, for Decade Engineering -- <http://www.decadenet.com>
    > Manufacturer of the famous BOB-II Serial Video Text Display Module!
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-12-08 02:39
    At 03:46 PM 12/7/00 +0000, PJ van Diepen wrote:
    >hello all,
    >
    >I've read here that the 555 is very sensitive for temperature, what
    >alternatives do i have to create a square wave of 38 khz that is
    >stable for the temperature, beside the 555. I do not want to use the
    >bs2 for this purpose.

    The 555 is actually quite stable with temperature! You must take care to
    use good quality capacitor and resistors. People run into temperature
    stability problems with they toss a low grade ceramic cap in the timing
    network - high K capacitors such as the Z5U series have horrible
    temperature drift. Use a foil cap of some sort: polystyrene or polypropylene.

    dwayne



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