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PCB drawing software
Hello guys,
Could you please recommend a shareware or a trial version of a good PCB layout designer software for me to test out. I don't want it to be very complicated please. Just something that will help me draw and there after layout on a PCB.
Thanks a lot in advance
nagi babu
Hello guys,
Could you please recommend a shareware or a trial version of a good PCB layout designer software for me to test out. I don't want it to be very complicated please. Just something that will help me draw and there after layout on a PCB.
Thanks a lot in advance
nagi babu
Comments
bogged down in complicated stuff. It has no auto router or fancy features. I
use it to manually make circuit traces,following a hand drawn schematic.When
finished you can send the file in to be made by them(around $100/single
board) Or I shut off all grid lines and junk,and do a screen capture,and
then print the board to a photo sensitve board myself,etching my own board
that way. Lacking an auto router seems like a handycap,but for smaller
boards,and lower parts counts you can do an awful lot by trial and error.
I have a 20 part count board, 4 Ic;s in 3x4 space and only have 2 jumper
wires,all single sided etching. A little ingenuity goes a long ways,and I
find the biggest gain in a program is simplcity, leaving room for
thought,instead of using all your brain power trying to understand the
program <S>
Good luck.
http://www.expresspcb.com/
At 01:10 PM 10/16/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>Hello guys,
>
>Could you please recommend a shareware or a trial version of a good PCB
>layout designer software for me to test out. I don't want it to be very
>complicated please. Just something that will help me draw and there after
>layout on a PCB.
>
>Thanks a lot in advance
>nagi babu
Sincerely
Kerry
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thanks a lot Kerry. I just bumped into WinBoard PCB. Seems like it is a simple (at least not too complicated one). I shall try expressPCB and Winboard.
thanks again
nagi
Original Message
From: Kerry Barlow [noparse]/noparse][url=mailto:admin@mntnweb.com]mailto:admin@mntnweb.com[/url
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 1:19 PM
To: basicstamps@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] PCB drawing software
I use expresspcb free online.I tried many of the other free ones,and got
bogged down in complicated stuff. It has no auto router or fancy features. I
use it to manually make circuit traces,following a hand drawn schematic.When
finished you can send the file in to be made by them(around $100/single
board) Or I shut off all grid lines and junk,and do a screen capture,and
then print the board to a photo sensitve board myself,etching my own board
that way. Lacking an auto router seems like a handycap,but for smaller
boards,and lower parts counts you can do an awful lot by trial and error.
I have a 20 part count board, 4 Ic;s in 3x4 space and only have 2 jumper
wires,all single sided etching. A little ingenuity goes a long ways,and I
find the biggest gain in a program is simplcity, leaving room for
thought,instead of using all your brain power trying to understand the
program <S>
Good luck.
http://www.expresspcb.com/
At 01:10 PM 10/16/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>Hello guys,
>
>Could you please recommend a shareware or a trial version of a good PCB
>layout designer software for me to test out. I don't want it to be very
>complicated please. Just something that will help me draw and there after
>layout on a PCB.
>
>Thanks a lot in advance
>nagi babu
Sincerely
Kerry
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--So you think you need more memory... the LEM· went to the moon on 16K,how
much do you REALLY need?
for the prototype and the final production
order. Both were very good quality.
The program is very easy to use as well.
Plus I like that it can calculate board
cost and shipping as well.
I couldn't get a sample though [noparse]:)[/noparse]
Sample Bandit
At 01:28 PM 10/16/00 -0500, you wrote:
> thanks a lot Kerry. I just bumped into WinBoard PCB. Seems like it is
>a simple (at least not too complicated one). I shall try expressPCB and
>Winboard. thanks again
>nagi
Original Message
>From: Kerry Barlow [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=4z6wruAWaMZVm0SYO4CNz1m8clk89SpU1k_wC_3dtRhbsyHYzN-fgZQAVwpiP9DyElmANhd_KHo]admin@m...[/url
>Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 1:19 PM
>To: basicstamps@egroups.com
>Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] PCB drawing software
> I use expresspcb free online.I tried many of the other free ones,and got
>bogged down in complicated stuff. It has no auto router or fancy features. I
>use it to manually make circuit traces,following a hand drawn schematic.When
>finished you can send the file in to be made by them(around $100/single
>board) Or I shut off all grid lines and junk,and do a screen capture,and
>then print the board to a photo sensitve board myself,etching my own board
>that way. Lacking an auto router seems like a handycap,but for smaller
>boards,and lower parts counts you can do an awful lot by trial and error.
>I have a 20 part count board, 4 Ic;s in 3x4 space and only have 2 jumper
>wires,all single sided etching. A little ingenuity goes a long ways,and I
>find the biggest gain in a program is simplcity, leaving room for
>thought,instead of using all your brain power trying to understand the
><>
>Good luck.
>http://www.expresspcb.com/
>
>
> At 01:10 PM 10/16/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>>Hello guys,
>>
>>Could you please recommend a shareware or a trial version of a good PCB
>>layout designer software for me to test out. I don't want it to be very
>>complicated please. Just something that will help me draw and there after
>>layout on a PCB.
>>
>>Thanks a lot in advance
>>nagi babu
>Sincerely
>Kerry
>Admin@M...
>WWW server hosting
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> went to the moon on 16K,how
>much do you REALLY need?
>
>
>
>
Kerry
I'm starting to like ExpressPCB. I have a question abt printing and resizing.
How does one switch off grid before printing. I tried the options and unchecked the show grid. It does not show on the screen but, shows up in the print out.
Secondly, how does one restore the original size of the circuit board on the screen. I'm having trouble restoring the size - and when I take a screen capture, I'm getting the enlarged size - which won't work. If I can restore the original size, that will be great for screen capture. I can then take the screen capture to paintbrush and edit from there.
Please advise.
thanks
nagi
Original Message
From: nags [noparse][[/noparse]mailto:nags@crosscity.com]
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 1:29 PM
To: 'basicstamps@egroups.com'
Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] PCB drawing software
thanks a lot Kerry. I just bumped into WinBoard PCB. Seems like it is a simple (at least not too complicated one). I shall try expressPCB and Winboard.
thanks again
nagi
Original Message
From: Kerry Barlow [noparse]/noparse][url=mailto:admin@mntnweb.com]mailto:admin@mntnweb.com[/url
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 1:19 PM
To: basicstamps@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] PCB drawing software
I use expresspcb free online.I tried many of the other free ones,and got
bogged down in complicated stuff. It has no auto router or fancy features. I
use it to manually make circuit traces,following a hand drawn schematic.When
finished you can send the file in to be made by them(around $100/single
board) Or I shut off all grid lines and junk,and do a screen capture,and
then print the board to a photo sensitve board myself,etching my own board
that way. Lacking an auto router seems like a handycap,but for smaller
boards,and lower parts counts you can do an awful lot by trial and error.
I have a 20 part count board, 4 Ic;s in 3x4 space and only have 2 jumper
wires,all single sided etching. A little ingenuity goes a long ways,and I
find the biggest gain in a program is simplcity, leaving room for
thought,instead of using all your brain power trying to understand the
program <S>
Good luck.
http://www.expresspcb.com/
At 01:10 PM 10/16/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>Hello guys,
>
>Could you please recommend a shareware or a trial version of a good PCB
>layout designer software for me to test out. I don't want it to be very
>complicated please. Just something that will help me draw and there after
>layout on a PCB.
>
>Thanks a lot in advance
>nagi babu
Sincerely
Kerry
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--So you think you need more memory... the LEM· went to the moon on 16K,how
much do you REALLY need?
nags@c... writes:
> How does one switch off grid before printing. I tried the options and
> unchecked the show grid. It does not show on the screen but, shows up in
the
> print out.
You can't remove the grid from the print-out. This is to prevent you from
making full-sized artwork (easily, anyway).
> Secondly, how does one restore the original size of the circuit board on
the
> screen. I'm having trouble restoring the size - and when I take a screen
> capture, I'm getting the enlarged size - which won't work. If I can restore
> the original size, that will be great for screen capture. I can then take
> the screen capture to paintbrush and edit from there.
You could use a graphics program, like Paint Shop Pro, to clean and scale
your art. But then, you could just use PSP to create the art to begin with.
version, after which it gets spendy.
On Mon, 16 Oct 2000, nags wrote:
> Hello guys,
>
> Could you please recommend a shareware or a trial version of a good PCB
> layout designer software for me to test out. I don't want it to be very
> complicated please. Just something that will help me draw and there after
> layout on a PCB.
>
> Thanks a lot in advance
> nagi babu
>
Sean T. Lamont, CTO / Chief NetNerd, Abstract Software, Inc. (ServNet)
Seattle - Bellingham - Vancouver - Portland - Everett - Tacoma - Bremerton
email: lamont@a... WWW: http://www.serv.net
"...There's no moral, it's just a lot of stuff that happens". - H. Simpson
stuff. I have no idea what I would have done without autoroute.
On Mon, 16 Oct 2000, Dennis P. O'Leary wrote:
> I respectfully disagree with the ideas paraphrased as "all I need is a
> simple trace and pad drawing program, because I don't want to waste time
> learning a full-featured circuit package." In the late 1980s, I was pretty
> fluent with AutoCAD, so I designed a circuit-drawing program, complete with
> specialized parts library. I thought it was a great use of my $3000 AutoCAD
> until I found that it wouldn't produce Gerber files. Among many other design
> limitations, I hadn't built in some easy method of making ground planes. In
> short, I didn't know what I was missing until I tried a few low-priced
> specialized PCB packages. Now I use Ivex products (Winboard, etc.) because
> there is no way that I could reproduce all of its features in a finite time
> with AutoCAD. BUT, using the same logic, I'm still wondering what I'm
> missing by not using a high-end package like Protel, Tango, etc.
> Just my 0.0005 mils worth,
> Dennis
>
>
Original Message
> From: Sample Bandit [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=yCcWeL_4w5vWRR_mu7aoB2WujwBUQTtLLrPwelbc8BMt9oSczw2_aa6Qt6zSJiS8NTxDif7qzeY]tesla@i...[/url
> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 11:45 AM
> To: basicstamps@egroups.com
> Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] PCB drawing software
>
>
> I recently used PCBexpressed here at work
> for the prototype and the final production
> order. Both were very good quality.
> The program is very easy to use as well.
> Plus I like that it can calculate board
> cost and shipping as well.
>
> I couldn't get a sample though [noparse]:)[/noparse]
>
> Sample Bandit
>
> At 01:28 PM 10/16/00 -0500, you wrote:
> > thanks a lot Kerry. I just bumped into WinBoard PCB. Seems like it is
> >a simple (at least not too complicated one). I shall try expressPCB and
> >Winboard. thanks again
> >nagi
Original Message
> >From: Kerry Barlow [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=GN2fjFfTXyjAHJj6SNDOhlXh3lWk8IVSRdVNbuRF702xT5Wi2VWapqr1hI2iYPTLfeaY_kbBO4AOzA]admin@m...[/url
> >Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 1:19 PM
> >To: basicstamps@egroups.com
> >Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] PCB drawing software
> > I use expresspcb free online.I tried many of the other free ones,and got
> >bogged down in complicated stuff. It has no auto router or fancy features.
> I
> >use it to manually make circuit traces,following a hand drawn
> schematic.When
> >finished you can send the file in to be made by them(around $100/single
> >board) Or I shut off all grid lines and junk,and do a screen capture,and
> >then print the board to a photo sensitve board myself,etching my own board
> >that way. Lacking an auto router seems like a handycap,but for smaller
> >boards,and lower parts counts you can do an awful lot by trial and error.
> >I have a 20 part count board, 4 Ic;s in 3x4 space and only have 2 jumper
> >wires,all single sided etching. A little ingenuity goes a long ways,and I
> >find the biggest gain in a program is simplcity, leaving room for
> >thought,instead of using all your brain power trying to understand the
> ><>
> >Good luck.
> >http://www.expresspcb.com/
> >
> >
> > At 01:10 PM 10/16/2000 -0500, you wrote:
> >>Hello guys,
> >>
> >>Could you please recommend a shareware or a trial version of a good PCB
> >>layout designer software for me to test out. I don't want it to be very
> >>complicated please. Just something that will help me draw and there after
> >>layout on a PCB.
> >>
> >>Thanks a lot in advance
> >>nagi babu
> >Sincerely
> >Kerry
> >Admin@M...
> >WWW server hosting
> >[url=Http://mntnweb.com]Http://mntnweb.com[/url]
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> > went to the moon on 16K,how
> >much do you REALLY need?
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Sean T. Lamont, CTO / Chief NetNerd, Abstract Software, Inc. (ServNet)
Seattle - Bellingham - Vancouver - Portland - Everett - Tacoma - Bremerton
email: lamont@a... WWW: http://www.serv.net
"...There's no moral, it's just a lot of stuff that happens". - H. Simpson
simple trace and pad drawing program, because I don't want to waste time
learning a full-featured circuit package." In the late 1980s, I was pretty
fluent with AutoCAD, so I designed a circuit-drawing program, complete with
specialized parts library. I thought it was a great use of my $3000 AutoCAD
until I found that it wouldn't produce Gerber files. Among many other design
limitations, I hadn't built in some easy method of making ground planes. In
short, I didn't know what I was missing until I tried a few low-priced
specialized PCB packages. Now I use Ivex products (Winboard, etc.) because
there is no way that I could reproduce all of its features in a finite time
with AutoCAD. BUT, using the same logic, I'm still wondering what I'm
missing by not using a high-end package like Protel, Tango, etc.
Just my 0.0005 mils worth,
Dennis
Original Message
From: Sample Bandit [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=0EmFCCaSm_O7rVX3TvD4gy3m6KVjsMhcIF4RiMRFCJ1fGtVOhXI-YqlGt7GUqt1l9UH9hrtj]tesla@i...[/url
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 11:45 AM
To: basicstamps@egroups.com
Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] PCB drawing software
I recently used PCBexpressed here at work
for the prototype and the final production
order. Both were very good quality.
The program is very easy to use as well.
Plus I like that it can calculate board
cost and shipping as well.
I couldn't get a sample though [noparse]:)[/noparse]
Sample Bandit
At 01:28 PM 10/16/00 -0500, you wrote:
> thanks a lot Kerry. I just bumped into WinBoard PCB. Seems like it is
>a simple (at least not too complicated one). I shall try expressPCB and
>Winboard. thanks again
>nagi
Original Message
>From: Kerry Barlow [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=byC1TYvubOeeWJnHr9BM1X8XXfYO3YFIrGbk5D49v06aDdjIL-e9jBE_Vn6dj4QZuVUTJjLm4qDc]admin@m...[/url
>Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 1:19 PM
>To: basicstamps@egroups.com
>Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] PCB drawing software
> I use expresspcb free online.I tried many of the other free ones,and got
>bogged down in complicated stuff. It has no auto router or fancy features.
I
>use it to manually make circuit traces,following a hand drawn
schematic.When
>finished you can send the file in to be made by them(around $100/single
>board) Or I shut off all grid lines and junk,and do a screen capture,and
>then print the board to a photo sensitve board myself,etching my own board
>that way. Lacking an auto router seems like a handycap,but for smaller
>boards,and lower parts counts you can do an awful lot by trial and error.
>I have a 20 part count board, 4 Ic;s in 3x4 space and only have 2 jumper
>wires,all single sided etching. A little ingenuity goes a long ways,and I
>find the biggest gain in a program is simplcity, leaving room for
>thought,instead of using all your brain power trying to understand the
><>
>Good luck.
>http://www.expresspcb.com/
>
>
> At 01:10 PM 10/16/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>>Hello guys,
>>
>>Could you please recommend a shareware or a trial version of a good PCB
>>layout designer software for me to test out. I don't want it to be very
>>complicated please. Just something that will help me draw and there after
>>layout on a PCB.
>>
>>Thanks a lot in advance
>>nagi babu
>Sincerely
>Kerry
>Admin@M...
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> went to the moon on 16K,how
>much do you REALLY need?
>
>
>
>
lines back in. What I do is get my ckt board on screen in expresspcb,
eliminate all gridlines,corners,etc and then take a screen capture using
the print screen key.
I then paste this back into a standard graphics program and print my circuit
board from there. This way I can also print it out to an exact measurment.
On your board layout going to a wierd size.There is a command to zoom the
screen in and out.When I start designing I pick a zoom ratio that fits all
the board on screen without scrolling,then I save the file. The next time I
reboot ,and load it,it comes up on screen properly.
Did you first size your boards corners properly? the left upper corner is
fixed,and you drag the others to size. I goofed on 1 board and had to
manually redo everything.
Good luck!
Kerry
At 03:20 PM 10/16/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>Kerry
>
>I'm starting to like ExpressPCB. I have a question abt printing and
>resizing.
>
>How does one switch off grid before printing. I tried the options and
>unchecked the show grid. It does not show on the screen but, shows up in the
>print out.
>
>Secondly, how does one restore the original size of the circuit board on the
>screen. I'm having trouble restoring the size - and when I take a screen
>capture, I'm getting the enlarged size - which won't work. If I can restore
>the original size, that will be great for screen capture. I can then take
>the screen capture to paintbrush and edit from there.
>
>Please advise.
>thanks
>nagi
>
>
Original Message
>From: nags [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=sBpmBk5DJx2QMBBTBVs7Yiot4QCIJ3DjaVlOEnO8LzW3t3mep8SAtolkghYKyqukqP7Ly1epwXCgXsk]nags@c...[/url
>Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 1:29 PM
>To: 'basicstamps@egroups.com'
>Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] PCB drawing software
>
>
>
>thanks a lot Kerry. I just bumped into WinBoard PCB. Seems like it is a
>simple (at least not too complicated one). I shall try expressPCB and
>Winboard.
>
>thanks again
>nagi
>
>
Original Message
>From: Kerry Barlow [noparse][[/noparse] mailto:admin@m... <mailto:admin@m...> ]
>Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 1:19 PM
>To: basicstamps@egroups.com
>Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] PCB drawing software
>
>
>I use expresspcb free online.I tried many of the other free ones,and got
>bogged down in complicated stuff. It has no auto router or fancy features. I
>
>use it to manually make circuit traces,following a hand drawn schematic.When
>
>finished you can send the file in to be made by them(around $100/single
>board) Or I shut off all grid lines and junk,and do a screen capture,and
>then print the board to a photo sensitve board myself,etching my own board
>that way. Lacking an auto router seems like a handycap,but for smaller
>boards,and lower parts counts you can do an awful lot by trial and error.
>I have a 20 part count board, 4 Ic;s in 3x4 space and only have 2 jumper
>wires,all single sided etching. A little ingenuity goes a long ways,and I
>find the biggest gain in a program is simplcity, leaving room for
>thought,instead of using all your brain power trying to understand the
>program <S>
>Good luck.
>http://www.expresspcb.com/ <http://www.expresspcb.com/>
>
>
>
>
>At 01:10 PM 10/16/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>>Hello guys,
>>
>>Could you please recommend a shareware or a trial version of a good PCB
>>layout designer software for me to test out. I don't want it to be very
>>complicated please. Just something that will help me draw and there after
>>layout on a PCB.
>>
>>Thanks a lot in advance
>>nagi babu
>Sincerely
>Kerry
>Admin@M...
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>
>--So you think you need more memory... the LEM went to the moon on 16K,how
>much do you REALLY need?
>
>
>
>
>
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><DIV><SPAN class=796431020-16102000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
>size=2>Secondly, how does one restore the original size of the circuit
board on
>the screen. I'm having trouble restoring the size - and when I take a screen
>capture, I'm getting the enlarged size - which won't work. If I can restore
the
>original size, that will be great for screen capture. I can then take the
screen
>capture to paintbrush and edit from there.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
><DIV><SPAN class=796431020-16102000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
>size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
><DIV><SPAN class=796431020-16102000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Please
>advise.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
><DIV><SPAN class=796431020-16102000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
>size=2>thanks</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
><DIV><SPAN class=796431020-16102000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
>size=2>nagi</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE>
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> size=2>
Original Message
<BR><B>From:</B> nags
> [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=sBpmBk5DJx2QMBBTBVs7Yiot4QCIJ3DjaVlOEnO8LzW3t3mep8SAtolkghYKyqukqP7Ly1epwXCgXsk]nags@c...[/url<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 16, 2000 1:29
> PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'basicstamps@egroups.com'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:
> [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] PCB drawing software<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
> <P><FONT size=2>thanks a lot Kerry. I just bumped into WinBoard PCB. Seems
> like it is a simple (at least not too complicated one). I shall try
expressPCB
> and Winboard.</FONT></P>
> <P><FONT size=2>thanks again</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>nagi</FONT> </P>
> <P><FONT size=2>
Original Message
</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>From:
Kerry
> Barlow [noparse][[/noparse]<A
> href="mailto:admin@m...">mailto:admin@m...</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT
> size=2>Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 1:19 PM</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>To:
> basicstamps@egroups.com</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Subject: Re:
[noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] PCB
> drawing software</FONT> </P><BR>
> <P><FONT size=2>I use expresspcb free online.I tried many of the other free
> ones,and got</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>bogged down in complicated stuff. It
has
> no auto router or fancy features. I</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>use it to
manually
> make circuit traces,following a hand drawn schematic.When</FONT> <BR><FONT
> size=2>finished you can send the file in to be made by them(around
> $100/single</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>board) Or I shut off all grid lines and
> junk,and do a screen capture,and</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>then print the
board
> to a photo sensitve board myself,etching my own board</FONT> <BR><FONT
> size=2>that way. Lacking an auto router seems like a handycap,but for
> smaller</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>boards,and lower parts counts you can do an
> awful lot by trial and error.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>I have a 20 part count
> board, 4 Ic;s in 3x4 space and only have 2 jumper</FONT> <BR><FONT
> size=2>wires,all single sided etching. A little ingenuity goes a long
ways,and
> I</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>find the biggest gain in a program is simplcity,
> leaving room for</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>thought,instead of using all your
> brain power trying to understand the</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>program
> <S></FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Good luck.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2><A
> target=_blank
> href="http://www.expresspcb.com/">http://www.expresspcb.com/</A></FONT>
> </P><BR><BR><BR>
> <P><FONT size=2>At 01:10 PM 10/16/2000 -0500, you wrote:</FONT> <BR><FONT
> size=2>>Hello guys,</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT
> size=2>>Could you please recommend a shareware or a trial version of a
good
> PCB</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>>layout designer software for me to test
out. I
> don't want it to be very</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>>complicated please.
Just
> something that will help me draw and there after</FONT> <BR><FONT
> size=2>>layout on a PCB.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT
> size=2>>Thanks a lot in advance</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>>nagi
> babu</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Sincerely</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Kerry</FONT>
> <BR><FONT size=2>Admin@M...</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>WWW server
hosting
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--So you think you need more memory... the LEM went to the moon on 16K,how
much do you REALLY need?
Thanks. But, I'm not ready to discover the real big tool quite yet - but just need a simple one.
Imagine a small baby. A baby can learn only so much - too much too soon could cause problems. I'm new to electronics. I'm already getting scared of all the things in this vast subject. I don't want to overwhelm myself at this point. I'll take it slowly, but, steadily. There is no comparison to the fun one has when s/he learns upon "need" and *not* upon pressure.
nagi
Original Message
From: Dennis P. O'Leary [noparse]/noparse][url=mailto:doleary@hsc.usc.edu]mailto:doleary@hsc.usc.edu[/url
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 7:19 PM
To: basicstamps@egroups.com
Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] PCB drawing software
I respectfully disagree with the ideas paraphrased as "all I need is a
simple trace and pad drawing program, because I don't want to waste time
learning a full-featured circuit package."· In the late 1980s, I was pretty
fluent with AutoCAD, so I designed a circuit-drawing program, complete with
specialized parts library.· I thought it was a great use of my $3000 AutoCAD
until I found that it wouldn't produce Gerber files. Among many other design
limitations, I hadn't built in some easy method of making ground planes.· In
short, I didn't know what I was missing until I tried a few low-priced
specialized PCB packages.· Now I use Ivex products (Winboard, etc.) because
there is no way that I could reproduce all of its features in a finite time
with AutoCAD.· BUT, using the same logic, I'm still wondering what I'm
missing by not using a high-end package like Protel, Tango, etc.
Just my 0.0005 mils worth,
Dennis
Original Message
From: Sample Bandit [noparse]/noparse][url=mailto:tesla@iag.net]mailto:tesla@iag.net[/url
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 11:45 AM
To: basicstamps@egroups.com
Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] PCB drawing software
I recently used PCBexpressed here at work
for the prototype and the final production
order. Both were very good quality.
The program is very easy to use as well.
Plus I like that it can calculate board
cost and shipping as well.
I couldn't get a sample though [noparse]:)[/noparse]
Sample Bandit
At 01:28 PM 10/16/00 -0500, you wrote:
>···· thanks a lot Kerry. I just bumped into WinBoard PCB. Seems like it is
>a simple (at least not too complicated one). I shall try expressPCB and
>Winboard.· thanks again
>nagi··
Original Message
>From: Kerry Barlow [noparse]/noparse][url=mailto:admin@mntnweb.com]mailto:admin@mntnweb.com[/url
>Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 1:19 PM
>To: basicstamps@egroups.com
>Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] PCB drawing software
>· I use expresspcb free online.I tried many of the other free ones,and got
>bogged down in complicated stuff. It has no auto router or fancy features.
I
>use it to manually make circuit traces,following a hand drawn
schematic.When
>finished you can send the file in to be made by them(around $100/single
>board) Or I shut off all grid lines and junk,and do a screen capture,and
>then print the board to a photo sensitve board myself,etching my own board
>that way. Lacking an auto router seems like a handycap,but for smaller
>boards,and lower parts counts you can do an awful lot by trial and error.
>I have a 20 part count board, 4 Ic;s in 3x4 space and only have 2 jumper
>wires,all single sided etching. A little ingenuity goes a long ways,and I
>find the biggest gain in a program is simplcity, leaving room for
>thought,instead of using all your brain power trying to understand the
><>
>Good luck.
>http://www.expresspcb.com/
>
>
>· At 01:10 PM 10/16/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>>Hello guys,
>>
>>Could you please recommend a shareware or a trial version of a good PCB
>>layout designer software for me to test out. I don't want it to be very
>>complicated please. Just something that will help me draw and there after
>>layout on a PCB.
>>
>>Thanks a lot in advance
>>nagi babu
>Sincerely
>Kerry
>Admin@MntnWeb.Com
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>· went to the moon on 16K,how
>much do you REALLY need?
>
>
>
>
Thanks a lot Kerry. I'll give that zoom a shot
nagi
Original Message
From: Kerry Barlow [noparse]/noparse][url=mailto:admin@mntnweb.com]mailto:admin@mntnweb.com[/url
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 11:08 AM
To: basicstamps@egroups.com
Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] PCB drawing software
nagi: you cannot use the file save command in expresspcb· it puts those grid
lines back in. What I do is get my ckt board on screen in expresspcb,
eliminate all gridlines,corners,etc· and then take a screen capture using
the print screen key.
I then paste this back into a standard graphics program and print my circuit
board from there. This way I can also print it out to an exact measurment.
On your board layout going to a wierd size.There is a command to zoom the
screen in and out.When I start designing I pick a zoom ratio that fits all
the board on screen without scrolling,then I save the file. The next time I
reboot ,and load it,it comes up on screen properly.
Did you first size your boards corners properly?· the left upper corner is
fixed,and you drag the others to size. I goofed on 1 board and had to
manually redo everything.
Good luck!
Kerry
At 03:20 PM 10/16/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>Kerry
>
>I'm starting to like ExpressPCB. I have a question abt printing and
>resizing.
>
>How does one switch off grid before printing. I tried the options and
>unchecked the show grid. It does not show on the screen but, shows up in the
>print out.
>
>Secondly, how does one restore the original size of the circuit board on the
>screen. I'm having trouble restoring the size - and when I take a screen
>capture, I'm getting the enlarged size - which won't work. If I can restore
>the original size, that will be great for screen capture. I can then take
>the screen capture to paintbrush and edit from there.
>
>Please advise.
>thanks
>nagi
>
>
Original Message
>From: nags [noparse]/noparse][url=mailto:nags@crosscity.com]mailto:nags@crosscity.com[/url
>Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 1:29 PM
>To: 'basicstamps@egroups.com'
>Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] PCB drawing software
>
>
>
>thanks a lot Kerry. I just bumped into WinBoard PCB. Seems like it is a
>simple (at least not too complicated one). I shall try expressPCB and
>Winboard.
>
>thanks again
>nagi
>
>
Original Message
>From: Kerry Barlow [noparse][[/noparse] mailto:admin@mntnweb.com <mailto:admin@mntnweb.com> ]
>Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 1:19 PM
>To: basicstamps@egroups.com
>Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] PCB drawing software
>
>
>I use expresspcb free online.I tried many of the other free ones,and got
>bogged down in complicated stuff. It has no auto router or fancy features. I
>
>use it to manually make circuit traces,following a hand drawn schematic.When
>
>finished you can send the file in to be made by them(around $100/single
>board) Or I shut off all grid lines and junk,and do a screen capture,and
>then print the board to a photo sensitve board myself,etching my own board
>that way. Lacking an auto router seems like a handycap,but for smaller
>boards,and lower parts counts you can do an awful lot by trial and error.
>I have a 20 part count board, 4 Ic;s in 3x4 space and only have 2 jumper
>wires,all single sided etching. A little ingenuity goes a long ways,and I
>find the biggest gain in a program is simplcity, leaving room for
>thought,instead of using all your brain power trying to understand the
>program <S>
>Good luck.
>http://www.expresspcb.com/ <http://www.expresspcb.com/>·
>
>
>
>
>At 01:10 PM 10/16/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>>Hello guys,
>>
>>Could you please recommend a shareware or a trial version of a good PCB
>>layout designer software for me to test out. I don't want it to be very
>>complicated please. Just something that will help me draw and there after
>>layout on a PCB.
>>
>>Thanks a lot in advance
>>nagi babu
>Sincerely
>Kerry
>Admin@MntnWeb.Com
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>
>--So you think you need more memory... the LEM· went to the moon on 16K,how
>much do you REALLY need?
>
>
>
>
>
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><DIV><SPAN class=796431020-16102000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
>size=2>Kerry</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
><DIV><SPAN class=796431020-16102000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
>size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
><DIV><SPAN class=796431020-16102000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I'm
>starting to like ExpressPCB. I have a question abt printing and
>resizing.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
><DIV><SPAN class=796431020-16102000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
>size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
><DIV><SPAN class=796431020-16102000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>How
>does one switch off grid before printing. I tried the options and unchecked
the
>show grid. It does not show on the screen but, shows up in the print
>out.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
><DIV><SPAN class=796431020-16102000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
>size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
><DIV><SPAN class=796431020-16102000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
>size=2>Secondly, how does one restore the original size of the circuit
board on
>the screen. I'm having trouble restoring the size - and when I take a screen
>capture, I'm getting the enlarged size - which won't work. If I can restore
the
>original size, that will be great for screen capture. I can then take the
screen
>capture to paintbrush and edit from there.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
><DIV><SPAN class=796431020-16102000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
>size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
><DIV><SPAN class=796431020-16102000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Please
>advise.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
><DIV><SPAN class=796431020-16102000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
>size=2>thanks</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
><DIV><SPAN class=796431020-16102000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
>size=2>nagi</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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Original Message
<BR><B>From:</B> nags
>· [noparse]/noparse][url=mailto:nags@crosscity.com]mailto:nags@crosscity.com[/url<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 16, 2000 1:29
>· PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'basicstamps@egroups.com'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:
>· [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] PCB drawing software<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
>· <P><FONT size=2>thanks a lot Kerry. I just bumped into WinBoard PCB. Seems
>· like it is a simple (at least not too complicated one). I shall try
expressPCB
>· and Winboard.</FONT></P>
>· <P><FONT size=2>thanks again</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>nagi</FONT> </P>
>· <P><FONT size=2>
Original Message
</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>From:
Kerry
>· Barlow [noparse][[/noparse]<A
>· href="mailto:admin@mntnweb.com">mailto:admin@mntnweb.com</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT
>· size=2>Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 1:19 PM</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>To:
>· basicstamps@egroups.com</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Subject: Re:
[noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] PCB
>· drawing software</FONT> </P><BR>
>· <P><FONT size=2>I use expresspcb free online.I tried many of the other free
>· ones,and got</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>bogged down in complicated stuff. It
has
>· no auto router or fancy features. I</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>use it to
manually
>· make circuit traces,following a hand drawn schematic.When</FONT> <BR><FONT
>· size=2>finished you can send the file in to be made by them(around
>· $100/single</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>board) Or I shut off all grid lines and
>· junk,and do a screen capture,and</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>then print the
board
>· to a photo sensitve board myself,etching my own board</FONT> <BR><FONT
>· size=2>that way. Lacking an auto router seems like a handycap,but for
>· smaller</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>boards,and lower parts counts you can do an
>· awful lot by trial and error.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>I have a 20 part count
>· board, 4 Ic;s in 3x4 space and only have 2 jumper</FONT> <BR><FONT
>· size=2>wires,all single sided etching. A little ingenuity goes a long
ways,and
>· I</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>find the biggest gain in a program is simplcity,
>· leaving room for</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>thought,instead of using all your
>· brain power trying to understand the</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>program
>· <S></FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Good luck.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2><A
>· target=_blank
>· href="http://www.expresspcb.com/">http://www.expresspcb.com/</A></FONT>
>· </P><BR><BR><BR>
>· <P><FONT size=2>At 01:10 PM 10/16/2000 -0500, you wrote:</FONT> <BR><FONT
>· size=2>>Hello guys,</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT
>· size=2>>Could you please recommend a shareware or a trial version of a
good
>· PCB</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>>layout designer software for me to test
out. I
>· don't want it to be very</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>>complicated please.
Just
>· something that will help me draw and there after</FONT> <BR><FONT
>· size=2>>layout on a PCB.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>></FONT> <BR><FONT
>· size=2>>Thanks a lot in advance</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>>nagi
>· babu</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Sincerely</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Kerry</FONT>
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--So you think you need more memory... the LEM· went to the moon on 16K,how
much do you REALLY need?
I am interested with the PCB drawing software
you mentioned. Is it free? Can you tell me where
I can get the drawing software?
Thank you.
sze keat
---nags <nags@c...> wrote:
>
> Thanks. But, I'm not ready to discover the real big tool quite yet -
but
> just need a simple one.
>
> Imagine a small baby. A baby can learn only so much - too much too
soon
> could cause problems. I'm new to electronics. I'm already getting
scared of
> all the things in this vast subject. I don't want to overwhelm
myself at
> this point. I'll take it slowly, but, steadily. There is no
comparison to
> the fun one has when s/he learns upon "need" and *not* upon pressure.
>
>
> nagi
>
>
>
>
Original Message
> From: Dennis P. O'Leary [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=cQjGBuwVC1ED0A138FDHH5OInrS6NXvJdMPSYzdjGCqgb3KKIVUSkMq_kxsW-D4WuMY0hUSJeSMZ]doleary@h...[/url
> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 7:19 PM
> To: basicstamps@egroups.com
> Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] PCB drawing software
>
>
> I respectfully disagree with the ideas paraphrased as "all I need is a
> simple trace and pad drawing program, because I don't want to waste
time
> learning a full-featured circuit package." In the late 1980s, I was
pretty
> fluent with AutoCAD, so I designed a circuit-drawing program,
complete with
> specialized parts library. I thought it was a great use of my $3000
AutoCAD
> until I found that it wouldn't produce Gerber files. Among many
other design
> limitations, I hadn't built in some easy method of making ground
planes. In
> short, I didn't know what I was missing until I tried a few low-priced
> specialized PCB packages. Now I use Ivex products (Winboard, etc.)
because
> there is no way that I could reproduce all of its features in a
finite time
> with AutoCAD. BUT, using the same logic, I'm still wondering what I'm
> missing by not using a high-end package like Protel, Tango, etc.
> Just my 0.0005 mils worth,
> Dennis
>
>
Original Message
> From: Sample Bandit [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=JdOcU1Ats97wxHC-BESDEvJeySUqhpbmitGyYqhUgM5TP--6ay2wn9Cmem-ZLOAathI6rAM]tesla@i...[/url
> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 11:45 AM
> To: basicstamps@egroups.com
> Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] PCB drawing software
>
>
> I recently used PCBexpressed here at work
> for the prototype and the final production
> order. Both were very good quality.
> The program is very easy to use as well.
> Plus I like that it can calculate board
> cost and shipping as well.
>
> I couldn't get a sample though [noparse]:)[/noparse]
>
> Sample Bandit
>
> At 01:28 PM 10/16/00 -0500, you wrote:
> > thanks a lot Kerry. I just bumped into WinBoard PCB. Seems
like it is
> >a simple (at least not too complicated one). I shall try expressPCB
and
> >Winboard. thanks again
> >nagi
Original Message
> >From: Kerry Barlow [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=ryYtZEyV5_ItP5xwB5Z1EXkKM6SkE8WTTnAKQlrpiK3YUdB8HpspkR_vkRI_Y-hVHyVb0elL2g]admin@m...[/url
> >Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 1:19 PM
> >To: basicstamps@egroups.com
> >Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] PCB drawing software
> > I use expresspcb free online.I tried many of the other free
ones,and got
> >bogged down in complicated stuff. It has no auto router or fancy
features.
> I
> >use it to manually make circuit traces,following a hand drawn
> schematic.When
> >finished you can send the file in to be made by them(around
$100/single
> >board) Or I shut off all grid lines and junk,and do a screen
capture,and
> >then print the board to a photo sensitve board myself,etching my
own board
> >that way. Lacking an auto router seems like a handycap,but for
smaller
> >boards,and lower parts counts you can do an awful lot by trial and
error.
> >I have a 20 part count board, 4 Ic;s in 3x4 space and only have 2
jumper
> >wires,all single sided etching. A little ingenuity goes a long
ways,and I
> >find the biggest gain in a program is simplcity, leaving room for
> >thought,instead of using all your brain power trying to understand
the
> ><>
> >Good luck.
> >http://www.expresspcb.com/
> >
> >
> > At 01:10 PM 10/16/2000 -0500, you wrote:
> >>Hello guys,
> >>
> >>Could you please recommend a shareware or a trial version of a
good PCB
> >>layout designer software for me to test out. I don't want it to be
very
> >>complicated please. Just something that will help me draw and
there after
> >>layout on a PCB.
> >>
> >>Thanks a lot in advance
> >>nagi babu
> >Sincerely
> >Kerry
> >Admin@M...
> >WWW server hosting
> >[url=Http://mntnweb.com]Http://mntnweb.com[/url]
> > [url=Http://MntnWeb.Com/bing.htm]Http://MntnWeb.Com/bing.htm[/url]
> >CHRISTMAS Web Page [url=Http://mntnweb.com/xmas.htm]Http://mntnweb.com/xmas.htm[/url]
> > went to the moon on 16K,how
> >much do you REALLY need?
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Thanks. But, I'm not ready to discover the real big
tool quite yet - but just need a simple one. </FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Imagine a small baby. A baby can learn only so much -
too much too soon could cause problems. I'm new to electronics. I'm
already getting scared of all the things in this vast subject. I don't
want to overwhelm myself at this point. I'll take it slowly, but,
steadily. There is no comparison to the fun one has when s/he learns
upon "need" and *not* upon pressure.</FONT></P>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>nagi</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>From: Dennis P. O'Leary [noparse][[/noparse]<A
HREF="mailto:doleary@h...">mailto:doleary@h...</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 7:19 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>To: basicstamps@egroups.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] PCB drawing software</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>I respectfully disagree with the ideas paraphrased as
"all I need is a</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>simple trace and pad drawing program, because I don't
want to waste time</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>learning a full-featured circuit package." In the
late 1980s, I was pretty</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>fluent with AutoCAD, so I designed a circuit-drawing
program, complete with</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>specialized parts library. I thought it was a great
use of my $3000 AutoCAD</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>until I found that it wouldn't produce Gerber files.
Among many other design</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>limitations, I hadn't built in some easy method of
making ground planes. In</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>short, I didn't know what I was missing until I tried
a few low-priced</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>specialized PCB packages. Now I use Ivex products
(Winboard, etc.) because</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>there is no way that I could reproduce all of its
features in a finite time</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>with AutoCAD. BUT, using the same logic, I'm still
wondering what I'm</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>missing by not using a high-end package like Protel,
Tango, etc.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Just my 0.0005 mils worth,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Dennis</FONT>
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Original Message
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>From: Sample Bandit [noparse][[/noparse]<A
HREF="mailto:tesla@i...">mailto:tesla@i...</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 11:45 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>To: basicstamps@egroups.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] PCB drawing software</FONT>
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<BR>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>I recently used PCBexpressed here at work</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>for the prototype and the final production</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>order. Both were very good quality.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>The program is very easy to use as well.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Plus I like that it can calculate board</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>cost and shipping as well.</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>I couldn't get a sample though [noparse]:)[/noparse]</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>Sample Bandit</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>At 01:28 PM 10/16/00 -0500, you wrote:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> thanks a lot Kerry. I just bumped into WinBoard
PCB. Seems like it is</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>a simple (at least not too complicated one). I shall
try expressPCB and</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>Winboard. thanks again</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>nagi
Original Message
</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>From: Kerry Barlow [noparse][[/noparse]<A
HREF="mailto:admin@m...">mailto:admin@m...</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 1:19 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>To: basicstamps@egroups.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] PCB drawing software</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> I use expresspcb free online.I tried many of the
other free ones,and got</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>bogged down in complicated stuff. It has no auto
router or fancy features.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>I</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>use it to manually make circuit traces,following a
hand drawn</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>schematic.When</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>finished you can send the file in to be made by
them(around $100/single</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>board) Or I shut off all grid lines and junk,and do
a screen capture,and</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>then print the board to a photo sensitve board
myself,etching my own board</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>that way. Lacking an auto router seems like a
handycap,but for smaller</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>boards,and lower parts counts you can do an awful
lot by trial and error.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>I have a 20 part count board, 4 Ic;s in 3x4 space
and only have 2 jumper</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>wires,all single sided etching. A little ingenuity
goes a long ways,and I</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>find the biggest gain in a program is simplcity,
leaving room for</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>thought,instead of using all your brain power trying
to understand the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>><></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>Good luck.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>><A HREF="http://www.expresspcb.com/"
TARGET="_blank">http://www.expresspcb.com/</A></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> At 01:10 PM 10/16/2000 -0500, you wrote:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>>Hello guys,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>>Could you please recommend a shareware or a trial
version of a good PCB</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>>layout designer software for me to test out. I
don't want it to be very</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>>complicated please. Just something that will help
me draw and there after</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>>layout on a PCB.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>>Thanks a lot in advance</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>>nagi babu</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>Sincerely</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>Kerry</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>Admin@M...</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>WWW server hosting</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>><A HREF="[url=Http://mntnweb.com]Http://mntnweb.com[/url]"
TARGET="_blank">[url=Http://mntnweb.com]Http://mntnweb.com[/url]</A></FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> went to the moon on 16K,how</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>much do you REALLY need?</FONT>
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You can download it in www.download.com . Very easy to use.
Original Message
From: nags <nags@crosscity.com>
To: 'basicstamps@egroups.com' <basicstamps@egroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, 18 October 2000 6:19
Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] PCB drawing software
Thanks. But, I'm not ready to discover the real big tool quite yet - but just need a simple one.
Imagine a small baby. A baby can learn only so much - too much too soon could cause problems. I'm new to electronics. I'm already getting scared of all the things in this vast subject. I don't want to overwhelm myself at this point. I'll take it slowly, but, steadily. There is no comparison to the fun one has when s/he learns upon "need" and *not* upon pressure.
nagi
Original Message
From: Dennis P. O'Leary [noparse]/noparse][url=mailto:doleary@hsc.usc.edu]mailto:doleary@hsc.usc.edu[/url
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 7:19 PM
To: basicstamps@egroups.com
Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] PCB drawing software
I respectfully disagree with the ideas paraphrased as "all I need is a
simple trace and pad drawing program, because I don't want to waste time
learning a full-featured circuit package."· In the late 1980s, I was pretty
fluent with AutoCAD, so I designed a circuit-drawing program, complete with
specialized parts library.· I thought it was a great use of my $3000 AutoCAD
until I found that it wouldn't produce Gerber files. Among many other design
limitations, I hadn't built in some easy method of making ground planes.· In
short, I didn't know what I was missing until I tried a few low-priced
specialized PCB packages.· Now I use Ivex products (Winboard, etc.) because
there is no way that I could reproduce all of its features in a finite time
with AutoCAD.· BUT, using the same logic, I'm still wondering what I'm
missing by not using a high-end package like Protel, Tango, etc.
Just my 0.0005 mils worth,
Dennis
Original Message
From: Sample Bandit [noparse]/noparse][url=mailto:tesla@iag.net]mailto:tesla@iag.net[/url
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 11:45 AM
To: basicstamps@egroups.com
Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] PCB drawing software
I recently used PCBexpressed here at work
for the prototype and the final production
order. Both were very good quality.
The program is very easy to use as well.
Plus I like that it can calculate board
cost and shipping as well.
I couldn't get a sample though [noparse]:)[/noparse]
Sample Bandit
At 01:28 PM 10/16/00 -0500, you wrote:
>···· thanks a lot Kerry. I just bumped into WinBoard PCB. Seems like it is
>a simple (at least not too complicated one). I shall try expressPCB and
>Winboard.· thanks again
>nagi··
Original Message
>From: Kerry Barlow [noparse]/noparse][url=mailto:admin@mntnweb.com]mailto:admin@mntnweb.com[/url
>Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 1:19 PM
>To: basicstamps@egroups.com
>Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] PCB drawing software
>· I use expresspcb free online.I tried many of the other free ones,and got
>bogged down in complicated stuff. It has no auto router or fancy features.
I
>use it to manually make circuit traces,following a hand drawn
schematic.When
>finished you can send the file in to be made by them(around $100/single
>board) Or I shut off all grid lines and junk,and do a screen capture,and
>then print the board to a photo sensitve board myself,etching my own board
>that way. Lacking an auto router seems like a handycap,but for smaller
>boards,and lower parts counts you can do an awful lot by trial and error.
>I have a 20 part count board, 4 Ic;s in 3x4 space and only have 2 jumper
>wires,all single sided etching. A little ingenuity goes a long ways,and I
>find the biggest gain in a program is simplcity, leaving room for
>thought,instead of using all your brain power trying to understand the
><>
>Good luck.
>http://www.expresspcb.com/
>
>
>· At 01:10 PM 10/16/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>>Hello guys,
>>
>>Could you please recommend a shareware or a trial version of a good PCB
>>layout designer software for me to test out. I don't want it to be very
>>complicated please. Just something that will help me draw and there after
>>layout on a PCB.
>>
>>Thanks a lot in advance
>>nagi babu
>Sincerely
>Kerry
>Admin@MntnWeb.Com
>WWW server hosting
>[url=Http://mntnweb.com]Http://mntnweb.com[/url]
>·· [url=Http://MntnWeb.Com/bing.htm]Http://MntnWeb.Com/bing.htm[/url]
>CHRISTMAS Web Page [url=Http://mntnweb.com/xmas.htm]Http://mntnweb.com/xmas.htm[/url]
>· went to the moon on 16K,how
>much do you REALLY need?
>
>
>
>
Thank you for it. I will download it
and give it a try.
sze keat
---BasicStamp FAN <BStamp@n...> wrote:
>
> Uses "PCB Designer 1.0" software. You can draw no limit pads and
print.
> You can download it in www.download.com . Very easy to use.
>
Original Message
> From: nags <nags@c...>
> To: 'basicstamps@egroups.com' <basicstamps@egroups.com>
> Date: Wednesday, 18 October 2000 6:19
> Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] PCB drawing software
>
>
> Thanks. But, I'm not ready to discover the real big tool quite
yet - but just need a simple one.
>
> Imagine a small baby. A baby can learn only so much - too much
too soon could cause problems. I'm new to electronics. I'm already
getting scared of all the things in this vast subject. I don't want to
overwhelm myself at this point. I'll take it slowly, but, steadily.
There is no comparison to the fun one has when s/he learns upon "need"
and *not* upon pressure.
>
>
>
> nagi
_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
̵
<http://illuminated.com.au/>
Does anyone have any experience with it? It claims: "Schematic Capture and
PCB Design Software for the Linux (i386+), DOS and Windows platforms."
It will produce Gerber files.
The demo tour looked good, IMHO, anyway, and it costs about $40.00US.
Patrick
At 05:19 PM 10/16/00 -0700, you wrote:
>I respectfully disagree with the ideas paraphrased as "all I need is a
>simple trace and pad drawing program, because I don't want to waste time
>learning a full-featured circuit package." In the late 1980s, I was pretty
>fluent with AutoCAD, so I designed a circuit-drawing program, complete with
>specialized parts library. I thought it was a great use of my $3000 AutoCAD
>until I found that it wouldn't produce Gerber files. Among many other design
>limitations, I hadn't built in some easy method of making ground planes. In
>short, I didn't know what I was missing until I tried a few low-priced
>specialized PCB packages. Now I use Ivex products (Winboard, etc.) because
>there is no way that I could reproduce all of its features in a finite time
>with AutoCAD. BUT, using the same logic, I'm still wondering what I'm
>missing by not using a high-end package like Protel, Tango, etc.
>Just my 0.0005 mils worth,
>Dennis
>
>
Original Message
>From: Sample Bandit [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=0GJc6eSgd13v6tYEWF_vb_JnKyBxfBmCyta4Fv6OtSqoCYgBUbU4ohAwRKJGSEPMHmVU3Jg]tesla@i...[/url
>Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 11:45 AM
>To: basicstamps@egroups.com
>Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] PCB drawing software
>
>
>I recently used PCBexpressed here at work
>for the prototype and the final production
>order. Both were very good quality.
>The program is very easy to use as well.
>Plus I like that it can calculate board
>cost and shipping as well.
>
>I couldn't get a sample though [noparse]:)[/noparse]
>
>Sample Bandit
>
>At 01:28 PM 10/16/00 -0500, you wrote:
>> thanks a lot Kerry. I just bumped into WinBoard PCB. Seems like it is
>>a simple (at least not too complicated one). I shall try expressPCB and
>>Winboard. thanks again
>>nagi
Original Message
>>From: Kerry Barlow [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=-VZgy_M4XcvqPaDSIEPNUDj-9OF3rIXmO018k1vORPVMR-bJVJGuyErSK9n01xXejFsvlToee6BS-Q]admin@m...[/url
>>Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 1:19 PM
>>To: basicstamps@egroups.com
>>Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] PCB drawing software
>> I use expresspcb free online.I tried many of the other free ones,and got
>>bogged down in complicated stuff. It has no auto router or fancy features.
>I
>>use it to manually make circuit traces,following a hand drawn
>schematic.When
>>finished you can send the file in to be made by them(around $100/single
>>board) Or I shut off all grid lines and junk,and do a screen capture,and
>>then print the board to a photo sensitve board myself,etching my own board
>>that way. Lacking an auto router seems like a handycap,but for smaller
>>boards,and lower parts counts you can do an awful lot by trial and error.
>>I have a 20 part count board, 4 Ic;s in 3x4 space and only have 2 jumper
>>wires,all single sided etching. A little ingenuity goes a long ways,and I
>>find the biggest gain in a program is simplcity, leaving room for
>>thought,instead of using all your brain power trying to understand the
>><>
>>Good luck.
>>http://www.expresspcb.com/
>>
>>
>> At 01:10 PM 10/16/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>>>Hello guys,
>>>
>>>Could you please recommend a shareware or a trial version of a good PCB
>>>layout designer software for me to test out. I don't want it to be very
>>>complicated please. Just something that will help me draw and there after
>>>layout on a PCB.
>>>
>>>Thanks a lot in advance
>>>nagi babu
>>Sincerely
>>Kerry
>>Admin@M...
>>WWW server hosting
>>[url=Http://mntnweb.com]Http://mntnweb.com[/url]
>> [url=Http://MntnWeb.Com/bing.htm]Http://MntnWeb.Com/bing.htm[/url]
>>CHRISTMAS Web Page [url=Http://mntnweb.com/xmas.htm]Http://mntnweb.com/xmas.htm[/url]
>> went to the moon on 16K,how
>>much do you REALLY need?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
choosing PCB design software:
1) Versatile editing features for pads, tracks and groundplanes. As designs
become moderately complex, a lot more time is spent on editing (adjusting)
these than initially placing them.
2) Technical support. If your design locks up (freezes) in the final stages,
you'll need help to bail you out. A low-priced design package becomes
expensive in lost time without it. When this happened to me with IVEX's
WinBoard, I e-mailed the board file to them, they returned it fixed, and
included a fast lesson in proper groundplane procedures to prevent it from
happening in the future.
Dennis
Original Message
From: Patrick Murphy [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=qtg9NZ8H-E9MR-Er9y6axtscWc8HgEJO4f0qFnxOxcgfBYYToxlyrVWalXiqEaeLneRUdk6bS157tTY]pmurphy@w...[/url
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 9:31 AM
To: basicstamps@egroups.com
Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] PCB drawing software
I used AutoCAD for a few boards but have just ordered DraftCAD.
<http://illuminated.com.au/>
Does anyone have any experience with it? It claims: "Schematic Capture and
PCB Design Software for the Linux (i386+), DOS and Windows platforms."
It will produce Gerber files.
The demo tour looked good, IMHO, anyway, and it costs about $40.00US.
Patrick
The program has not arrived yet so I cannot say much about the editing
features nor technical support. I appreciate your comments - I may still
have to purchase a better program!
Regards,
Patrick
At 05:44 PM 10/24/00 -0700, you wrote:
>No experience with DraftCAD, but here are two not-so-obvious criteria for
>choosing PCB design software:
>1) Versatile editing features for pads, tracks and groundplanes. As designs
>become moderately complex, a lot more time is spent on editing (adjusting)
>these than initially placing them.
>2) Technical support. If your design locks up (freezes) in the final stages,
>you'll need help to bail you out. A low-priced design package becomes
>expensive in lost time without it. When this happened to me with IVEX's
>WinBoard, I e-mailed the board file to them, they returned it fixed, and
>included a fast lesson in proper groundplane procedures to prevent it from
>happening in the future.
>Dennis
>
>
Original Message
>From: Patrick Murphy [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=1t0LZ4W6ndVqTI9Sr2NRqnMZjTxOWPyR036xs4JzVihl2ESiO7l2_o8GiYDaqPYM4ozF-DAWcHz0J8dd]pmurphy@w...[/url
>Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 9:31 AM
>To: basicstamps@egroups.com
>Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] PCB drawing software
>
>
>I used AutoCAD for a few boards but have just ordered DraftCAD.
>
> <http://illuminated.com.au/>
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>Does anyone have any experience with it? It claims: "Schematic Capture and
>PCB Design Software for the Linux (i386+), DOS and Windows platforms."
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>It will produce Gerber files.
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>The demo tour looked good, IMHO, anyway, and it costs about $40.00US.
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>Patrick
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