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ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2000-09-30 06:57 in General Discussion
Group,

I have been trying to get Infra Red Object Detection working for one
of my robots for about a week now. I have a program written so that when
ever the IR detects something it displays "object detected" on the debug
screen. I made my IR on a practice board to start off with to see if it
works, and it works great. My problem is that now I made another one exactly
like it, but instead of using a practice board, I used a PC board, and it
does not work correctly. It will detect my hand if I wave it in front of it,
but it also displays "object detected" when there is nothing there! It is
doing that every 2 1/2 seconds exactly. Still IF I put my hand in front of
it, it will throw it off and detect it, then start back in its cycle. Make
any sense? I just don't see what I have done because this board is exactly
identical to the one that works? It is not shorting to ground, and I know
the code is correct because it works with the other board. If any body could
give me a tip on what I may be doing wrong I would sure appreciate it.
Thanks in advance. -Alex Burke

PS: I am sorry if this does not make any sense what so ever...
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-09-30 04:50
    At 9/29/2000 -0500 09:57 PM, you wrote:
    >Group,
    >
    > I have been trying to get Infra Red Object Detection working for one
    >of my robots for about a week now. I have a program written so that when
    >ever the IR detects something it displays "object detected" on the debug
    >screen. I made my IR on a practice board to start off with to see if it
    >works, and it works great. My problem is that now I made another one exactly
    >like it, but instead of using a practice board, I used a PC board, and it
    >does not work correctly. It will detect my hand if I wave it in front of it,
    >but it also displays "object detected" when there is nothing there! It is
    >doing that every 2 1/2 seconds exactly. Still IF I put my hand in front of
    >it, it will throw it off and detect it, then start back in its cycle. Make
    >any sense?

    It MAY if there are fluorescent lights or bright sun nearby. Shield the
    receptor with a tube - enough to keep out stray light, but not too deep as
    to cause too much cut-off (side-vision). Why one, and not the other -
    perhaps the way the receptor is angled <shrug>.

    >I just don't see what I have done because this board is exactly
    >identical to the one that works? It is not shorting to ground, and I know
    >the code is correct because it works with the other board. If any body could
    >give me a tip on what I may be doing wrong I would sure appreciate it.
    >Thanks in advance. -Alex Burke
    >
    >PS: I am sorry if this does not make any sense what so ever...

    Just needs some analysis. If this isn't it, we'll go on from here.

    Regards,

    Bruce Bates


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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-09-30 05:05
    Bruce,

    Thanks, but I have already though of that, and does not work. Even when
    I am indoors, and all the lights are turned off it still has that same 2 1/2
    sec repetition going. EVEN if I cover up the detector and the emitter
    altogether (except when my hand is 5in then it detects my hand)! It has to
    be something in the circuit that I can not find. It is about to drive me up
    the wall! I really do appreciate you trying to help me out. I think I might
    just try for a third time to rebuild it and see what happens. Thanks again.
    -Alex Burke


    >From: Bruce Bates <bvbates@u...>
    >Reply-To: basicstamps@egroups.com
    >To: basicstamps@egroups.com
    >Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] IR Problems
    >Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 23:50:43 -0400
    >
    >At 9/29/2000 -0500 09:57 PM, you wrote:
    > >Group,
    > >
    > > I have been trying to get Infra Red Object Detection working for
    >one
    > >of my robots for about a week now. I have a program written so that when
    > >ever the IR detects something it displays "object detected" on the debug
    > >screen. I made my IR on a practice board to start off with to see if it
    > >works, and it works great. My problem is that now I made another one
    >exactly
    > >like it, but instead of using a practice board, I used a PC board, and it
    > >does not work correctly. It will detect my hand if I wave it in front of
    >it,
    > >but it also displays "object detected" when there is nothing there! It is
    > >doing that every 2 1/2 seconds exactly. Still IF I put my hand in front
    >of
    > >it, it will throw it off and detect it, then start back in its cycle.
    >Make
    > >any sense?
    >
    >It MAY if there are fluorescent lights or bright sun nearby. Shield the
    >receptor with a tube - enough to keep out stray light, but not too deep as
    >to cause too much cut-off (side-vision). Why one, and not the other -
    >perhaps the way the receptor is angled <shrug>.
    >
    > >I just don't see what I have done because this board is exactly
    > >identical to the one that works? It is not shorting to ground, and I know
    > >the code is correct because it works with the other board. If any body
    >could
    > >give me a tip on what I may be doing wrong I would sure appreciate it.
    > >Thanks in advance. -Alex Burke
    > >
    > >PS: I am sorry if this does not make any sense what so ever...
    >
    >Just needs some analysis. If this isn't it, we'll go on from here.
    >
    >Regards,
    >
    >Bruce Bates
    >
    >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-09-30 05:15
    At 9/29/2000 -0500 11:05 PM, you wrote:
    >Bruce,
    >
    > Thanks, but I have already though of that, and does not work. Even when
    >I am indoors, and all the lights are turned off it still has that same 2 1/2
    >sec repetition going.


    Which Stamp processor ?


    > EVEN if I cover up the detector and the emitter
    >altogether (except when my hand is 5in then it detects my hand)! It has to
    >be something in the circuit that I can not find. It is about to drive me up
    >the wall! I really do appreciate you trying to help me out. I think I might
    >just try for a third time to rebuild it and see what happens. Thanks again.
    >-Alex Burke
    >
    >
    > >From: Bruce Bates <bvbates@u...>
    > >Reply-To: basicstamps@egroups.com
    > >To: basicstamps@egroups.com
    > >Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] IR Problems
    > >Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 23:50:43 -0400
    > >
    > >At 9/29/2000 -0500 09:57 PM, you wrote:
    > > >Group,
    > > >
    > > > I have been trying to get Infra Red Object Detection working for
    > >one
    > > >of my robots for about a week now. I have a program written so that when
    > > >ever the IR detects something it displays "object detected" on the debug
    > > >screen. I made my IR on a practice board to start off with to see if it
    > > >works, and it works great. My problem is that now I made another one
    > >exactly
    > > >like it, but instead of using a practice board, I used a PC board, and it
    > > >does not work correctly. It will detect my hand if I wave it in front of
    > >it,
    > > >but it also displays "object detected" when there is nothing there! It is
    > > >doing that every 2 1/2 seconds exactly. Still IF I put my hand in front
    > >of
    > > >it, it will throw it off and detect it, then start back in its cycle.
    > >Make
    > > >any sense?
    > >
    > >It MAY if there are fluorescent lights or bright sun nearby. Shield the
    > >receptor with a tube - enough to keep out stray light, but not too deep as
    > >to cause too much cut-off (side-vision). Why one, and not the other -
    > >perhaps the way the receptor is angled <shrug>.
    > >
    > > >I just don't see what I have done because this board is exactly
    > > >identical to the one that works? It is not shorting to ground, and I know
    > > >the code is correct because it works with the other board. If any body
    > >could
    > > >give me a tip on what I may be doing wrong I would sure appreciate it.
    > > >Thanks in advance. -Alex Burke
    > > >
    > > >PS: I am sorry if this does not make any sense what so ever...
    > >
    > >Just needs some analysis. If this isn't it, we'll go on from here.
    > >
    > >Regards,
    > >
    > >Bruce Bates
    > >
    > >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-09-30 05:20
    Bruce,

    I am useing the BS2SX. -Alex Burke


    >From: Bruce Bates <bvbates@u...>
    >Reply-To: basicstamps@egroups.com
    >To: basicstamps@egroups.com
    >Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] IR Problems
    >Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 00:15:43 -0400
    >
    >At 9/29/2000 -0500 11:05 PM, you wrote:
    > >Bruce,
    > >
    > > Thanks, but I have already though of that, and does not work. Even
    >when
    > >I am indoors, and all the lights are turned off it still has that same 2
    >1/2
    > >sec repetition going.
    >
    >
    >Which Stamp processor ?
    >
    >
    > > EVEN if I cover up the detector and the emitter
    > >altogether (except when my hand is 5in then it detects my hand)! It has
    >to
    > >be something in the circuit that I can not find. It is about to drive me
    >up
    > >the wall! I really do appreciate you trying to help me out. I think I
    >might
    > >just try for a third time to rebuild it and see what happens. Thanks
    >again.
    > >-Alex Burke
    > >
    > >
    > > >From: Bruce Bates <bvbates@u...>
    > > >Reply-To: basicstamps@egroups.com
    > > >To: basicstamps@egroups.com
    > > >Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] IR Problems
    > > >Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 23:50:43 -0400
    > > >
    > > >At 9/29/2000 -0500 09:57 PM, you wrote:
    > > > >Group,
    > > > >
    > > > > I have been trying to get Infra Red Object Detection working
    >for
    > > >one
    > > > >of my robots for about a week now. I have a program written so that
    >when
    > > > >ever the IR detects something it displays "object detected" on the
    >debug
    > > > >screen. I made my IR on a practice board to start off with to see if
    >it
    > > > >works, and it works great. My problem is that now I made another one
    > > >exactly
    > > > >like it, but instead of using a practice board, I used a PC board,
    >and it
    > > > >does not work correctly. It will detect my hand if I wave it in front
    >of
    > > >it,
    > > > >but it also displays "object detected" when there is nothing there!
    >It is
    > > > >doing that every 2 1/2 seconds exactly. Still IF I put my hand in
    >front
    > > >of
    > > > >it, it will throw it off and detect it, then start back in its cycle.
    > > >Make
    > > > >any sense?
    > > >
    > > >It MAY if there are fluorescent lights or bright sun nearby. Shield the
    > > >receptor with a tube - enough to keep out stray light, but not too deep
    >as
    > > >to cause too much cut-off (side-vision). Why one, and not the other -
    > > >perhaps the way the receptor is angled <shrug>.
    > > >
    > > > >I just don't see what I have done because this board is exactly
    > > > >identical to the one that works? It is not shorting to ground, and I
    >know
    > > > >the code is correct because it works with the other board. If any
    >body
    > > >could
    > > > >give me a tip on what I may be doing wrong I would sure appreciate
    >it.
    > > > >Thanks in advance. -Alex Burke
    > > > >
    > > > >PS: I am sorry if this does not make any sense what so ever...
    > > >
    > > >Just needs some analysis. If this isn't it, we'll go on from here.
    > > >
    > > >Regards,
    > > >
    > > >Bruce Bates
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-09-30 06:57
    Hi Alex,

    What does your ir system consist of?
    I ask because regular 2.5 seconds sounds very fishy; could it be
    2.3?

    If this is the case, you may see the stamp 2.3s glitch which
    occurs in certain output states (are you using a coprocessor for
    detection?).
    If you used a large breadboard before, stray capacitance _may_
    have masked this effect.

    Have a nice evening,
    Paul







    --- In basicstamps@egroups.com, Bruce Bates <bvbates@u...> wrote:
    > At 9/29/2000 -0500 09:57 PM, you wrote:
    > >Group,
    > >
    > > I have been trying to get Infra Red Object Detection
    working for one
    > >of my robots for about a week now. I have a program written so
    that when
    > >ever the IR detects something it displays "object detected" on the
    debug
    > >screen. I made my IR on a practice board to start off with to see
    if it
    > >works, and it works great. My problem is that now I made another
    one exactly
    > >like it, but instead of using a practice board, I used a PC board,
    and it
    > >does not work correctly. It will detect my hand if I wave it in
    front of it,
    > >but it also displays "object detected" when there is nothing
    there! It is
    > >doing that every 2 1/2 seconds exactly. Still IF I put my hand in
    front of
    > >it, it will throw it off and detect it, then start back in its
    cycle. Make
    > >any sense?
    >
    > It MAY if there are fluorescent lights or bright sun nearby. Shield
    the
    > receptor with a tube - enough to keep out stray light, but not too
    deep as
    > to cause too much cut-off (side-vision). Why one, and not the
    other -
    > perhaps the way the receptor is angled <shrug>.
    >
    > >I just don't see what I have done because this board is exactly
    > >identical to the one that works? It is not shorting to ground, and
    I know
    > >the code is correct because it works with the other board. If any
    body could
    > >give me a tip on what I may be doing wrong I would sure appreciate
    it.
    > >Thanks in advance. -Alex Burke
    > >
    > >PS: I am sorry if this does not make any sense what so ever...
    >
    > Just needs some analysis. If this isn't it, we'll go on from here.
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    > Bruce Bates
    >
    >
    >
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