Fiber Optics?
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I was thinking of a stamp project that would create an animated pseudo-neon
sign effect. Like those neon signs that have 2 images made from the tubes,
and they just turn on one then the other. I was thinking there was a type
of fiber optic out there that would show the light through the entire length
and not just at the tip. Did I just dream this or is it really available?
Does anyone have any information about this with possibly a link to a
supplier (at of course a good price)?
Thanks for any help.
Shawn
sign effect. Like those neon signs that have 2 images made from the tubes,
and they just turn on one then the other. I was thinking there was a type
of fiber optic out there that would show the light through the entire length
and not just at the tip. Did I just dream this or is it really available?
Does anyone have any information about this with possibly a link to a
supplier (at of course a good price)?
Thanks for any help.
Shawn
Comments
Low Rider mag).
It was for interior trim, came in a different lengths. I don't believe it
was fiber optic but it was 12v powered, mabey some type of
elctrolumencient(sp?) device.
Mike
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From: Hendricks, Shawn [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=fHJaYRnzlh8U2BHMwRei0-Z7M_5U0h9UXBMWLpZWIdF6U9a4Y0HO5q50OWc_zyav4gS7iaatjgIpUOHD8LCRIByI]I.Work@M...[/url
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 11:30 AM
To: 'Stamp'
Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Fiber Optics?
I was thinking of a stamp project that would create an animated pseudo-neon
sign effect. Like those neon signs that have 2 images made from the tubes,
and they just turn on one then the other. I was thinking there was a type
of fiber optic out there that would show the light through the entire length
and not just at the tip. Did I just dream this or is it really available?
Does anyone have any information about this with possibly a link to a
supplier (at of course a good price)?
Thanks for any help.
Shawn
> I was thinking of a stamp project that would create an animated pseudo-neon
> sign effect. Like those neon signs that have 2 images made from the tubes,
> and they just turn on one then the other. I was thinking there was a type
> of fiber optic out there that would show the light through the entire length
> and not just at the tip. Did I just dream this or is it really available?
> Does anyone have any information about this with possibly a link to a
> supplier (at of course a good price)?
You're close. It's called electoluminescent wire, and it's distributed by
an isreili company called ILAM. It's not glass. Check out the following
URL's
http://www.elwire.com (a friend of mine - probably the cheapest, but
slow)
http:/;/www.coollight.com (will get you product for pretty cheap pretty
quickly)
http://www.funhouseproductions.com
Since I've just spend the last several m onths building a rather intracate
project around ELWIre and the BS2, please feel to ask me any questions
about implementation, though I'll be gone past friday AM.
Sean T. Lamont, CTO / Chief NetNerd, Abstract Software, Inc. (ServNet)
Seattle - Bellingham - Vancouver - Portland - Everett - Tacoma - Bremerton
email: lamont@a... WWW: http://www.serv.net
"...There's no moral, it's just a lot of stuff that happens". - H. Simpson
was thinking of was more like fiber optic, where you could introduce any
light source on one end of it and it would shine through to the other side,
as well as light the length of the fiber. I still interested in finding
this, if it exist.
But now seeing this ELwire, I have new projects in mind. I may have
question when I get it, so I will keep your email handy. Just curious, what
did you do with it and the stamp?
Thanks,
Shawn
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From: Sean T. Lamont .lost. [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=ypWbK2dGj_vqFNbch6aHGKWZ7u_VmXILt1-WdKB3zlwoqbHIOhFQNdKGSxGRZrVZSTmlyQjjy6mVKVmgIQ]lamont@a...[/url
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 11:51 AM
To: 'Stamp'
Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Fiber Optics?
On Thu, 24 Aug 2000, Hendricks, Shawn wrote:
> I was thinking of a stamp project that would create an animated
pseudo-neon
> sign effect. Like those neon signs that have 2 images made from the
tubes,
> and they just turn on one then the other. I was thinking there was a type
> of fiber optic out there that would show the light through the entire
length
> and not just at the tip. Did I just dream this or is it really available?
> Does anyone have any information about this with possibly a link to a
> supplier (at of course a good price)?
You're close. It's called electoluminescent wire, and it's distributed by
an isreili company called ILAM. It's not glass. Check out the following
URL's
http://www.elwire.com (a friend of mine - probably the cheapest, but
slow)
http:/;/www.coollight.com (will get you product for pretty cheap pretty
quickly)
http://www.funhouseproductions.com
Since I've just spend the last several m onths building a rather intracate
project around ELWIre and the BS2, please feel to ask me any questions
about implementation, though I'll be gone past friday AM.
Sean T. Lamont, CTO / Chief NetNerd, Abstract Software, Inc. (ServNet)
Seattle - Bellingham - Vancouver - Portland - Everett - Tacoma - Bremerton
email: lamont@a... WWW: http://www.serv.net
"...There's no moral, it's just a lot of stuff that happens". - H. Simpson
Conventional fiber optical transmission is based on maximizing internal
reflections from each fiber by "cladding" the fiber with material of
different optical density. This of course minimizes the light transmitted
along the length, but maximizes the light intensity produced at the far end.
Sounds like you are looking for a fiber with a different, and uncommon,
optical property. The tech folks at Edmund Scientific (www.edsci.com) might
know of one.
Dennis
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From: Hendricks, Shawn [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=a5izpaW7vS_yi0q0dnzLWVJWKxhdaeLn7AECvZyUotYdeO8bDpyk3IUYddCGrCZ81Qyw2B9r30oIEGEEaPID6Q]I.Work@M...[/url
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 1:45 PM
To: 'basicstamps@egroups.com'
Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Fiber Optics?
This isn't what I was talking about, but it is extremely cool!!!! What I
was thinking of was more like fiber optic, where you could introduce any
light source on one end of it and it would shine through to the other side,
as well as light the length of the fiber. I still interested in finding
this, if it exist. <deleted>
had developed this "inefficient" fiber optic for use in lighting
applications, not for such things a data transfer and such.
Maybe I was just smoking something when I "heard" of this. In the long run
the CoolNeon lights http://www.funhouseproductions.com will work, but I was
hoping to be able to dynamically change the color of the strand, by changing
the light source.
Thanks for the help.
Shawn
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From: Dennis P. O'Leary [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=WKC2YtBULhDKrUIZUMM5h-7MWUSVfTJAkjxluBjAmwCIEZNHJYI-TutTgWNhlcFbCm2eouYU7kB2UmEsw8M]doleary@h...[/url
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 3:07 PM
To: basicstamps@egroups.com
Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Fiber Optics?
Shawn,
Conventional fiber optical transmission is based on maximizing internal
reflections from each fiber by "cladding" the fiber with material of
different optical density. This of course minimizes the light transmitted
along the length, but maximizes the light intensity produced at the far end.
Sounds like you are looking for a fiber with a different, and uncommon,
optical property. The tech folks at Edmund Scientific (www.edsci.com) might
know of one.
Dennis
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From: Hendricks, Shawn [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=cic2-n3bLz5RfFjZFHG_Of60o1n7TOcBJB3CnByKT3e0nEbagBlPz2i69tj_EJ6WBNRMPnesMfVNAVwOqmW-qQ]I.Work@M...[/url
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 1:45 PM
To: 'basicstamps@egroups.com'
Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Fiber Optics?
This isn't what I was talking about, but it is extremely cool!!!! What I
was thinking of was more like fiber optic, where you could introduce any
light source on one end of it and it would shine through to the other side,
as well as light the length of the fiber. I still interested in finding
this, if it exist. <deleted>
http://www.pacfabinc.com/product/page81.htm
I don't know anything about it.
Regards,
Al Williams
AWC
* 8 channels of PWM: http://www.al-williams.com/awce/pak5.htm
>
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> From: Hendricks, Shawn [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=6O1xQABFjp7DYQBIb5vhFhWotW-g8IJcRcSJHmkwELSHZIEZUHA7FdFRrQy7vviSX-wUU-eiOGA2X-oZ2FukQiQ]I.Work@M...[/url
> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 5:27 PM
> To: 'basicstamps@egroups.com'
> Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Fiber Optics?
>
>
> Thanks, you are correct on all accounts. I was thinking though
> that someone
> had developed this "inefficient" fiber optic for use in lighting
> applications, not for such things a data transfer and such.
>
> Maybe I was just smoking something when I "heard" of this. In
> the long run
> the CoolNeon lights http://www.funhouseproductions.com will work,
> but I was
> hoping to be able to dynamically change the color of the strand,
> by changing
> the light source.
>
> Thanks for the help.
> Shawn
>
>
Original Message
> From: Dennis P. O'Leary [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=p8zPi021AYuK0IO1gU4ZXuJDVy8g9yo3rXdgVstYTQluHeMrEP67h2OdgJHNn5Gu7E_GWlZ_emS4kRr3]doleary@h...[/url
> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 3:07 PM
> To: basicstamps@egroups.com
> Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Fiber Optics?
>
>
> Shawn,
> Conventional fiber optical transmission is based on maximizing internal
> reflections from each fiber by "cladding" the fiber with material of
> different optical density. This of course minimizes the light transmitted
> along the length, but maximizes the light intensity produced at
> the far end.
> Sounds like you are looking for a fiber with a different, and uncommon,
> optical property. The tech folks at Edmund Scientific
(www.edsci.com) might
know of one.
Dennis
Original Message
From: Hendricks, Shawn [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=6O1xQABFjp7DYQBIb5vhFhWotW-g8IJcRcSJHmkwELSHZIEZUHA7FdFRrQy7vviSX-wUU-eiOGA2X-oZ2FukQiQ]I.Work@M...[/url
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 1:45 PM
To: 'basicstamps@egroups.com'
Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Fiber Optics?
This isn't what I was talking about, but it is extremely cool!!!! What I
was thinking of was more like fiber optic, where you could introduce any
light source on one end of it and it would shine through to the other side,
as well as light the length of the fiber. I still interested in finding
this, if it exist. <deleted>
illuminating fiber optic"... Now if I can only find a supplier who sells it.
I found two pool places (other than the one Al sent), but it is sold in a
configuration for pools. I don't quite need that much of it.
Thanks for the great link!
Original Message
From: Al Williams [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=r1_Tz3ypa3n_7xkf6mRK2Dv63xSrNxFo092GlX8jc5aurAirWWM7nZriCoCOqUUH3PfmXdYtzNbr3j_c]alw@a...[/url
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 3:36 PM
To: basicstamps@egroups.com
Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Fiber Optics?
There is something like this used for pools.
http://www.pacfabinc.com/product/page81.htm
I don't know anything about it.
Regards,
Al Williams
AWC
* 8 channels of PWM: http://www.al-williams.com/awce/pak5.htm
>
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> From: Hendricks, Shawn [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=OLZw_Zr3wkSeqU9cbKGXcUV7rgwVG4FhaaVoNqkGiw89LYi1ALAuAzClwcuadn4NU0h8sUxA87aiNcdUYrmzD1Aw]I.Work@M...[/url
> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 5:27 PM
> To: 'basicstamps@egroups.com'
> Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Fiber Optics?
>
>
> Thanks, you are correct on all accounts. I was thinking though
> that someone
> had developed this "inefficient" fiber optic for use in lighting
> applications, not for such things a data transfer and such.
>
> Maybe I was just smoking something when I "heard" of this. In
> the long run
> the CoolNeon lights http://www.funhouseproductions.com will work,
> but I was
> hoping to be able to dynamically change the color of the strand,
> by changing
> the light source.
>
> Thanks for the help.
> Shawn
>
>
Original Message
> From: Dennis P. O'Leary [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=cwUUw6egNN1sZ-Sragh6oH9q0nUIILY3OoLPAIbFOKWHZuoewVsKI21jcqB2r2OD0-HzeXRDKQsDHe5MGQ]doleary@h...[/url
> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 3:07 PM
> To: basicstamps@egroups.com
> Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Fiber Optics?
>
>
> Shawn,
> Conventional fiber optical transmission is based on maximizing internal
> reflections from each fiber by "cladding" the fiber with material of
> different optical density. This of course minimizes the light transmitted
> along the length, but maximizes the light intensity produced at
> the far end.
> Sounds like you are looking for a fiber with a different, and uncommon,
> optical property. The tech folks at Edmund Scientific
(www.edsci.com) might
know of one.
Dennis
Original Message
From: Hendricks, Shawn [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=OLZw_Zr3wkSeqU9cbKGXcUV7rgwVG4FhaaVoNqkGiw89LYi1ALAuAzClwcuadn4NU0h8sUxA87aiNcdUYrmzD1Aw]I.Work@M...[/url
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 1:45 PM
To: 'basicstamps@egroups.com'
Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Fiber Optics?
This isn't what I was talking about, but it is extremely cool!!!! What I
was thinking of was more like fiber optic, where you could introduce any
light source on one end of it and it would shine through to the other side,
as well as light the length of the fiber. I still interested in finding
this, if it exist. <deleted>
Flex Glo Wire Inc. -- Cleveland, OH -- Thin Flexible Wire That Illuminates &
Looks Like Neon. Available In 15 Colors. Power Suppli...
7210 Carnegie Ave.
Cleveland, OH 44103 USA
Tel: 888-782-6580
Fax: 216-431-1970
Fiber Optic Systems, Inc.
2-T Railroad Ave.
Whitehouse Station, NJ 08889 3277 USA
Tel: 800-809-3674
Fax: 908-534-2272
Colorado Tech Center, 1753 Boxelder St.
Louisville, CO 80027 USA
Tel: 800-527-2923
Fax: 800-527-4358; 303-926-0011
Regards,
Al Williams
AWC
*Floating point math for the Stamp, PIC, SX, or any microcontroller:
http://www.al-williams.com/awce/pak1.htm
>hoping to be able to dynamically change the color of the strand, by changing
>the light source.
There is a plastic rod that gives a sort of neon effect when light is shone
at the end of it. I've seen it used in a local department store as accent
lighting. Also, the open, opposite end shines pretty well. It's like a
giant fiber optic cable. In the store, they have all of the ends aiming at
a color wheel and the thing is always changing colors.
>Shawn,
> Conventional fiber optical transmission is based on maximizing internal
>reflections from each fiber by "cladding" the fiber with material of
>different optical density. This of course minimizes the light transmitted
>along the length, but maximizes the light intensity produced at the far end.
> Sounds like you are looking for a fiber with a different, and uncommon,
>optical property. The tech folks at Edmund Scientific (www.edsci.com) might
>know of one.
>Dennis
Perhaps transparent mono-filament fishing line might be worth some
investigation <shrug>.
>
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>Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 1:45 PM
>To: 'basicstamps@egroups.com'
>Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Fiber Optics?
>
>
>This isn't what I was talking about, but it is extremely cool!!!! What I
>was thinking of was more like fiber optic, where you could introduce any
>light source on one end of it and it would shine through to the other side,
>as well as light the length of the fiber. I still interested in finding
>this, if it exist. <deleted>