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large attachements!!!!!!!!

ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2000-08-18 05:09 in General Discussion
On Wed, 16 Aug 2000, master_anthoni wrote:

> Les,
>
> I think that you only have to wait for an attachment to dl
> when you actually click to read it or dl it.
>

Wrong,, waiting for me to delete when I got home........317k


Dale Harwood [noparse][[/noparse] N4VFF ]

internet> dale@h...

ax.25> n4vff@n4vff.#cha.tn.usa.noam

#include <std_disclaimer.h>

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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-08-16 16:54
    Gary

    Please refrain from sending such large attachements to the list. Not only is
    it annoying to have to wait for a 200+ k file to download. But it wastes
    valuable space on my harddrive. If large files need refering to, please
    place them on a web site so people have a choice whether they want them or
    not.


    Regards
    Les
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-08-16 17:09
    Les,

    I think that you only have to wait for an attachment to dl
    when you actually click to read it or dl it.

    Nice post Gary.


    Anthoni



    --- In basicstamps@egroups.com, "Les" <les@t...> wrote:
    > Gary
    >
    > Please refrain from sending such large attachements to the list.
    Not
    only is
    > it annoying to have to wait for a 200+ k file to download. But it
    wastes
    > valuable space on my harddrive. If large files need refering to,
    please
    > place them on a web site so people have a choice whether they want
    them or
    > not.
    >
    >
    > Regards
    > Les
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-08-16 17:55
    Les <les@t...> said:

    > Gary
    >
    > Please refrain from sending such large attachements to the list. Not only is
    > it annoying to have to wait for a 200+ k file to download. But it wastes
    > valuable space on my harddrive. If large files need refering to, please
    > place them on a web site so people have a choice whether they want them or
    > not.

    valuable space?? a new 10G hard drive costs less than $200 these days.. that
    means that to store a 200k file costs you about 0.4 cents (yes I calculated
    it) The energy to get it there probably cost you more than the actual storage
    space.

    I'm not saying it's ok to send huge files, but you're complaining about
    spending a penny or two.

    ________________________
    Jason Lavoie
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-08-16 18:43
    I hardidly agree that attachments should only be sent via private mail if
    requested. Not that I didn't want Gary's attachement. Still just blindly
    sending attachments to the whole list should be a no, no..... ==Mac==

    At 04:54 PM 8/16/00 +0100, you wrote:
    >Gary
    >
    >Please refrain from sending such large attachements to the list. Not only is
    >it annoying to have to wait for a 200+ k file to download. But it wastes
    >valuable space on my harddrive. If large files need refering to, please
    >place them on a web site so people have a choice whether they want them or
    >not.
    >
    >
    > Regards
    > Les
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-08-16 21:01
    200K times the number of receipients to the list = very large
    bandwidth!! Who pays for that??

    .mark

    >
    >From: jlavoie@e...[noparse]/noparse]SMTP:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=D-0Crp6xigodhI2vC_g88cRvzhy5m3hgnapQc8pTpOSkDBR27kRd8sbYZLMz_4yt6NrxL8WOQJgVmzpdhtWXnQ]jlavoie@e...[/url
    >Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 9:55 AM
    >To: basicstamps@egroups.com
    >Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] large attachements!!!!!!!!
    >
    >Les <les@t...> said:
    >
    >> Gary
    >>
    >> Please refrain from sending such large attachements to the list. Not only
    >>is
    >> it annoying to have to wait for a 200+ k file to download. But it wastes
    >> valuable space on my harddrive. If large files need refering to, please
    >> place them on a web site so people have a choice whether they want them or
    >> not.
    >
    >valuable space?? a new 10G hard drive costs less than $200 these days.. that
    >means that to store a 200k file costs you about 0.4 cents (yes I calculated
    >it) The energy to get it there probably cost you more than the actual storage
    >space.
    >
    >I'm not saying it's ok to send huge files, but you're complaining about
    >spending a penny or two.
    >
    >________________________
    >Jason Lavoie
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-08-17 04:40
    Sorry to hear ya got that slow of a connection.

    MA


    --- In basicstamps@egroups.com, Dale Harwood <dale@h...> wrote:
    > On Wed, 16 Aug 2000, master_anthoni wrote:
    >
    > > Les,
    > >
    > > I think that you only have to wait for an attachment to dl
    > > when you actually click to read it or dl it.
    > >
    >
    > Wrong,, waiting for me to delete when I got home........317k
    >
    >
    > Dale Harwood [noparse][[/noparse] N4VFF ]
    >
    > internet> dale@h...
    >
    > ax.25> n4vff@n4vff.#cha.tn.usa.noam
    >
    > #include <std_disclaimer.h>
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-08-17 12:51
    All,

    I agree. It's not about hard disk space, etc. it's about people that may be
    using slow connections - I sometimes connect using cellular, and this gets
    9600bps tops, so it would have miffed me a bit to have received this
    attachement this way.

    Basic netiquette dictates that it's 'forbidden' to send attachments with
    messages posted to mailing lists, and that users should refrain from using
    HTML in them - it doubles the effective size of a message.

    Besides, binary attachments need to be encoded in ascii-form (UUEncode,
    MIME, etc.) to make it compatible with all servers, gateways, etc. which
    means in most cases doubling the size of the attachment itself.

    You can do a simple test of this. Send to yourself some binary file, like an
    .exe or .jpg, and see the dial-up connection status window. If the file is
    50k, most times you'll be sending (and receiving) 100k.

    Enough said I think.

    All the best, and happy posting,

    Mike

    Mensaje original
    De: schoon@a... [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=f56VUw1K6-gu5y-29UPaoOk8sGzsXzV_AHARIWt41HggC_PnKHk3TypiSh5kW3cOrGLLrROXcQ]schoon@a...[/url
    Enviado el: mi
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-08-17 18:56
    Concerned about bandwidth? Has anyone thought about the bandwidth this
    massage tread is wasting?
    lw

    Lincoln J. Worsham
    liworsha@g...
    Neuro Engineering Laboratory
    NASA Ames Research Center MS 269-1
    Moffett Field CA 94035-1000
    Phone 650-604-0461
    Fax 650-604-3594

    http://www.arc.nasa.gov/computing.html
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-08-17 20:00
    I was just thinking the same way as I read all those useless messages...
    I also sent an attachment few weeks ago (instructions list), but I was
    pretty new on this list.. I apologize ;-)))
    Phil.
    Original Message
    From: Lincoln Worsham <liworsha@g...>
    To: <basicstamps@egroups.com>
    Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 7:56 PM
    Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] large attachements!!!!!!!!


    > Concerned about bandwidth? Has anyone thought about the bandwidth this
    > massage tread is wasting?
    > lw
    >
    > Lincoln J. Worsham
    > liworsha@g...
    > Neuro Engineering Laboratory
    > NASA Ames Research Center MS 269-1
    > Moffett Field CA 94035-1000
    > Phone 650-604-0461
    > Fax 650-604-3594
    >
    > http://www.arc.nasa.gov/computing.html
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-08-18 05:09
    Dale:

    You may have your email client configured to automatically download
    attachments...NOT a good thing.

    Best regards,

    AuntBea


    >From: "master_anthoni " <master_anthoni@h...>
    >Reply-To: basicstamps@egroups.com
    >To: basicstamps@egroups.com
    >Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: large attachements!!!!!!!!
    >Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 03:40:40 -0000
    >
    >Sorry to hear ya got that slow of a connection.
    >
    >MA
    >
    >
    >--- In basicstamps@egroups.com, Dale Harwood <dale@h...> wrote:
    > > On Wed, 16 Aug 2000, master_anthoni wrote:
    > >
    > > > Les,
    > > >
    > > > I think that you only have to wait for an attachment to dl
    > > > when you actually click to read it or dl it.
    > > >
    > >
    > > Wrong,, waiting for me to delete when I got home........317k
    > >
    > >
    > > Dale Harwood [noparse][[/noparse] N4VFF ]
    > >
    > > internet> dale@h...
    > >
    > > ax.25> n4vff@n4vff.#cha.tn.usa.noam
    > >
    > > #include <std_disclaimer.h>
    >
    >
    >
    >

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