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ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2000-07-30 18:28 in General Discussion
Is anyone aware of Logo (programming language) implementations using
the Basic Stamp? Any links or other information would be much
appreciated. Joe

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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-07-30 06:35
    At 11:00 AM 7/25/00, you wrote:
    >Is anyone aware of Logo (programming language) implementations using
    >the Basic Stamp? Any links or other information would be much
    >appreciated. Joe

    Joe -

    None that I'm area of, and none that could be cross-interpreted. From a
    practical point of view, runing an interpreter on an interpreted Basic
    system would not only be a kluge, but be timewise VERY inefficient. There
    have been summer camps for kids in grades 4-5 who have succesfully master
    the Stamp. At that juncture (from a teaching perspective) there seems
    little need for Logo or turtle languages.

    OTOH, there are simple (no brain) Turtle 'bots with pens which are
    available, and which could be controiled fairly easily by a Stamp. Writing
    a simple Logo to PBasic translator wouldn't be all that difficult. Again,
    from the practical side, one might be better looking at the Lego robotics
    packages, and/or make reference to the papers by Dr. Fred Martin (M.I.T.)
    regarding Lego Logo. That might make more sense, since I believe the
    interpreter or translator/cross-assembler already exists for the Motorola
    processors.

    The biggest problem I encounted with the later versions of Logo, is the
    ability to define devices (inpots and outputs) on the fly. That sort of
    dynamic device allocation, would almost have to be addressed on something
    like a Scenix SX chip, where virtual peripherals can be used. If
    re-compilation is permitted, this is not an issue.

    Hope that helps.

    Regards,

    Bruce
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-07-30 08:27
    I dont know if i have a really old version of LOGO or what but i dont
    remember anything in the prog language about external communications. This
    might be because i used it so long ago or an obsolete version or that it
    doesn't exist. whatever it may be please inform me of your findings because
    if it is possible then i would start using my mac a little more.

    Thanx
    Seth
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-07-30 11:11
    At 03:27 AM 7/30/00, you wrote:
    >I dont know if i have a really old version of LOGO or what but i dont
    >remember anything in the prog language about external communications.


    The newer variants provide for external devices. Older versions were
    limited to the pen, and perhaps a printer. This is PURELY from memory, but
    I BELIEVE even the later MS-LOGO versions provide some sort of external
    devices. As you might imagine, the facility is accomplished through
    scripting (LOGO "macros") , and within, they merely address certain newly
    defined keyword primatives (LIGHT, SOUND, TOGGLE, ON, OFF, HIGH, LOW, etc).
    Both input and output are offered in the more advanced versions.

    Contact me offlist, if you need pointers, or additional information. At one
    time I had about 8 shareware or demo versions of differing LOGO variants.
    If I can ever extact them from a defuncto hard drive I'm nursing, I'd be
    happy to share them.

    > This
    >might be because i used it so long ago or an obsolete version or that it
    >doesn't exist. whatever it may be please inform me of your findings because
    >if it is possible then i would start using my mac a little more.

    Nothing that I have ever found relates to the Mac, since I have been
    exclusively a PC user. I also have no references to Mac-things - sorry.

    Regards,

    Bruce

    >Thanx
    >Seth
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-07-30 12:47
    At 03:27 AM 7/30/00, you wrote:
    >I dont know if i have a really old version of LOGO or what but i dont
    >remember anything in the prog language about external communications. This
    >might be because i used it so long ago or an obsolete version or that it
    >doesn't exist. whatever it may be please inform me of your findings because
    >if it is possible then i would start using my mac a little more.
    >
    >Thanx
    >Seth

    Here you go Seth -

    http://el.www.media.mit.edu/groups/logo-foundation/index.html

    All kinds of LOGO programs from the LOGO Foundation at M.I.T. !
    Commercial, Shareware, (almost) Freeware - MAC and PC - all at discounted
    prices for educational use.

    That should do it <smile>.

    Regards,

    Bruce
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-07-30 18:28
    I used logo on the Apple 2 so possibly it was ported to the Mac. I know
    a couple of really longtime Mac users and will check with them.
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