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ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2000-09-02 16:57 in General Discussion
> Thanks for your response. Can I pick your brain I step further. I
> have
> the code for the Stamp II that can decipher GPRMC data line from a gps
> receiver with a standard serial output. My problem is when I hook my
> ser out of my "jupiter" gps to read or see the data, via my laptop,
> 9600, 8,N,1 or any other logical combination, I get garbage. I tried
> changing all possible combos of inputs that I know to the GPS, i.e.
> reset, nema ver rockwell ser data, etc. Any Ideas Thanks Ralph

It probably has TTL level inverted data i/o and needs an RS232 level
interface(MAX232, etc) to connect to a PC.

Comments

  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-06-11 10:55
    > Thanks for your response. Can I pick your brain I step further. I
    > have
    > the code for the Stamp II that can decipher GPRMC data line from a gps
    > receiver with a standard serial output. My problem is when I hook my
    > ser out of my "jupiter" gps to read or see the data, via my laptop,
    > 9600, 8,N,1 or any other logical combination, I get garbage. I tried
    > changing all possible combos of inputs that I know to the GPS, i.e.
    > reset, nema ver rockwell ser data, etc. Any Ideas Thanks Ralph

    >>It probably has TTL level inverted data i/o and needs an RS232 level
    >>interface(MAX232, etc) to connect to a PC.

    Save yourself lots of grief. Here are the locations of all the documentation
    that you will ever need for your Jupiter. I suspect that the Jupiter powers
    up in the default binary data mode and the garbage you see really isn't
    garbage:

    Zodiac GPS Receiver Family Designers Guide - (142 page)
    http://www.unitronic.de/rockwell/pdf/gps/Zodiac%20DG_GPS-33.pdf

    Zodiac Serial Data Interface Specification - (84 page)
    http://www.c2-tech.com/~steveb/ka9mva/zodiac.pdf

    Manual - (18 page)
    http://www.unitronic.de/rockwell/pdf/gps/gd003g.pdf

    Hope this helps

    Vic
    _____________________________________________________

    Victor Fraenckel - The Windman vfraenc1@n...
    Home of the WindReader Electronic Theodolite
    Read the WIND
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-06-12 04:27
    you probably want to select ascii output which is 4800,n,8,1


    richard


    Original Message
    From: "Victorf" <vfraenc1@n...>
    To: "Stamp Mailing List" <basicstamps@egroups.com>
    Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 4:55 AM
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: GPS to Stamp


    > > Thanks for your response. Can I pick your brain I step further. I
    > > have
    > > the code for the Stamp II that can decipher GPRMC data line from a gps
    > > receiver with a standard serial output. My problem is when I hook my
    > > ser out of my "jupiter" gps to read or see the data, via my laptop,
    > > 9600, 8,N,1 or any other logical combination, I get garbage. I tried
    > > changing all possible combos of inputs that I know to the GPS, i.e.
    > > reset, nema ver rockwell ser data, etc. Any Ideas Thanks Ralph
    >
    > >>It probably has TTL level inverted data i/o and needs an RS232 level
    > >>interface(MAX232, etc) to connect to a PC.
    >
    > Save yourself lots of grief. Here are the locations of all the
    documentation
    > that you will ever need for your Jupiter. I suspect that the Jupiter
    powers
    > up in the default binary data mode and the garbage you see really isn't
    > garbage:
    >
    > Zodiac GPS Receiver Family Designers Guide - (142 page)
    > http://www.unitronic.de/rockwell/pdf/gps/Zodiac%20DG_GPS-33.pdf
    >
    > Zodiac Serial Data Interface Specification - (84 page)
    > http://www.c2-tech.com/~steveb/ka9mva/zodiac.pdf
    >
    > Manual - (18 page)
    > http://www.unitronic.de/rockwell/pdf/gps/gd003g.pdf
    >
    > Hope this helps
    >
    > Vic
    > _____________________________________________________
    >
    > Victor Fraenckel - The Windman vfraenc1@n...
    > Home of the WindReader Electronic Theodolite
    > Read the WIND
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-06-21 08:11
    At 05:55 6/11/2000 -0400, you wrote:
    >
    >> Thanks for your response. Can I pick your brain I step further. I
    >> have
    >> the code for the Stamp II that can decipher GPRMC data line from a gps
    >> receiver with a standard serial output. My problem is when I hook my
    >> ser out of my "jupiter" gps to read or see the data, via my laptop,
    >> 9600, 8,N,1 or any other logical combination, I get garbage. I tried
    Try 4800,8,N,1...
    BTW what type of program are you using to read in the data, and where did
    you purchase an antenna??
    _______________________________________________________
    | Pay attention to the details |
    | for it is the little details that |
    | will conquer you |
    |_______________________________________________________|

    Joseph Conner
    Wentz Hall
    Oklahoma State University
    Graduate Student
    (405)744-1887
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-06-21 20:00
    When I take the output of my hand held GPS receiver and connect it to
    the serial input of my laptop and run HyperTerminal, I can see the data ok.
    When I hookup the output of the Jupiter receiver to the same input on my
    laptop, It looks like garbage. I tried every baud rate, stop bits, parity,
    etc. I don't have an antenna hooked up yet. I do have an antenna but I'm
    waiting for an adapter.

    Thanks
    Ralph
    Original Message
    From: Joseph Conner <connjos@w...>
    To: <basicstamps@egroups.com>
    Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 3:11 AM
    Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: GPS to Stamp


    >
    > At 05:55 6/11/2000 -0400, you wrote:
    > >
    > >> Thanks for your response. Can I pick your brain I step further. I
    > >> have
    > >> the code for the Stamp II that can decipher GPRMC data line from a gps
    > >> receiver with a standard serial output. My problem is when I hook my
    > >> ser out of my "jupiter" gps to read or see the data, via my laptop,
    > >> 9600, 8,N,1 or any other logical combination, I get garbage. I tried
    > Try 4800,8,N,1...
    > BTW what type of program are you using to read in the data, and where did
    > you purchase an antenna??
    > _______________________________________________________
    > | Pay attention to the details |
    > | for it is the little details that |
    > | will conquer you |
    > |_______________________________________________________|
    >
    > Joseph Conner
    > Wentz Hall
    > Oklahoma State University
    > Graduate Student
    > (405)744-1887
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-06-21 21:03
    been there done that

    make sure that you set the baud to 4800
    select NEMA 103
    prob want to hook up 3 volt memory battery

    need to convert to real RS232 level signals - the gps outs out ttl rather
    than +/- 10 volts or what ever RS232 is

    you need a converter chip like a Max-232

    I am trying to parse the huge amount of data that the gps dumps onto the
    chip


    richard


    Original Message
    From: Ralph Rogers <fdcsouth@9...>
    To: <basicstamps@egroups.com>
    Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 2:00 PM
    Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: GPS to Stamp


    > When I take the output of my hand held GPS receiver and connect it to
    > the serial input of my laptop and run HyperTerminal, I can see the data
    ok.
    > When I hookup the output of the Jupiter receiver to the same input on my
    > laptop, It looks like garbage. I tried every baud rate, stop bits,
    parity,
    > etc. I don't have an antenna hooked up yet. I do have an antenna but I'm
    > waiting for an adapter.
    >
    > Thanks
    > Ralph
    >
    Original Message
    > From: Joseph Conner <connjos@w...>
    > To: <basicstamps@egroups.com>
    > Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 3:11 AM
    > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: GPS to Stamp
    >
    >
    > >
    > > At 05:55 6/11/2000 -0400, you wrote:
    > > >
    > > >> Thanks for your response. Can I pick your brain I step further. I
    > > >> have
    > > >> the code for the Stamp II that can decipher GPRMC data line from a
    gps
    > > >> receiver with a standard serial output. My problem is when I hook my
    > > >> ser out of my "jupiter" gps to read or see the data, via my laptop,
    > > >> 9600, 8,N,1 or any other logical combination, I get garbage. I tried
    > > Try 4800,8,N,1...
    > > BTW what type of program are you using to read in the data, and where
    did
    > > you purchase an antenna??
    > > _______________________________________________________
    > > | Pay attention to the details |
    > > | for it is the little details that |
    > > | will conquer you |
    > > |_______________________________________________________|
    > >
    > > Joseph Conner
    > > Wentz Hall
    > > Oklahoma State University
    > > Graduate Student
    > > (405)744-1887
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-06-21 21:33
    Ralph,

    Where did you get the antenna adapter!?! I have four of these Jupiter
    boards ready to test with, but I haven't ordered antennas yet. Have you
    determined the exact connector required?

    The spec sheet for a -221 says that it offers a straight OSX ( female? ) on the
    board. Can't find many of the small active antennas that offer an osx
    connector or adapter. I read somewhere that OSX is also called MCX but that
    didn't help things much. Ideally, I'd like a right angle adapter and then be
    able to connect the antenna to that. I need to stay with the smaller family of
    connectors for a small footprint application; the usual bnc is way too big for
    my app. There aren't many 'quick order' sources for a solution or reference.
    Care to share your info? (g) In exchange I can offer the name of a vendor that
    sells a plug-compatable replacement for this board. The prices are decent
    too! This vendor has antennas at quite favorable prices ~$25.00 in low qtys.
    I have not determined if this is an active ( probably not ) or passive. Great
    price if it is an active antenna.

    Thanks,
    Bill Mrozinski - DCS

    Ralph Rogers wrote:

    > When I take the output of my hand held GPS receiver and connect it to
    > the serial input of my laptop and run HyperTerminal, I can see the data ok.
    > When I hookup the output of the Jupiter receiver to the same input on my
    > laptop, It looks like garbage. I tried every baud rate, stop bits, parity,
    > etc. I don't have an antenna hooked up yet. I do have an antenna but I'm
    > waiting for an adapter.
    >
    > Thanks
    > Ralph
    >
    Original Message
    > From: Joseph Conner <connjos@w...>
    > To: <basicstamps@egroups.com>
    > Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 3:11 AM
    > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: GPS to Stamp
    >
    > >
    > > At 05:55 6/11/2000 -0400, you wrote:
    > > >
    > > >> Thanks for your response. Can I pick your brain I step further. I
    > > >> have
    > > >> the code for the Stamp II that can decipher GPRMC data line from a gps
    > > >> receiver with a standard serial output. My problem is when I hook my
    > > >> ser out of my "jupiter" gps to read or see the data, via my laptop,
    > > >> 9600, 8,N,1 or any other logical combination, I get garbage. I tried
    > > Try 4800,8,N,1...
    > > BTW what type of program are you using to read in the data, and where did
    > > you purchase an antenna??
    > > _______________________________________________________
    > > | Pay attention to the details |
    > > | for it is the little details that |
    > > | will conquer you |
    > > |_______________________________________________________|
    > >
    > > Joseph Conner
    > > Wentz Hall
    > > Oklahoma State University
    > > Graduate Student
    > > (405)744-1887
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-06-21 21:48
    Ralph,

    From my research your going to need to add a MAX232 to the TTL level serial
    pins provided by the Jupiter. There are some serial ports that are forgiving
    enough to tolerate the 5v swing, but laptops are notorious for not being among
    them. Additionally, the 0v low logic level is even more troublesome as the
    true RS232 spec calls for a +12v/-12v swing. The MAX232 is an quick and easy
    solution and will remove all doubt concerning serial data line flakiness.

    Hope this helps,
    Bill Mrozinski

    Ralph Rogers wrote:

    > When I take the output of my hand held GPS receiver and connect it to
    > the serial input of my laptop and run HyperTerminal, I can see the data ok.
    > When I hookup the output of the Jupiter receiver to the same input on my
    > laptop, It looks like garbage. I tried every baud rate, stop bits, parity,
    > etc. I don't have an antenna hooked up yet. I do have an antenna but I'm
    > waiting for an adapter.
    >
    > Thanks
    > Ralph
    >
    Original Message
    > From: Joseph Conner <connjos@w...>
    > To: <basicstamps@egroups.com>
    > Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 3:11 AM
    > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: GPS to Stamp
    >
    > >
    > > At 05:55 6/11/2000 -0400, you wrote:
    > > >
    > > >> Thanks for your response. Can I pick your brain I step further. I
    > > >> have
    > > >> the code for the Stamp II that can decipher GPRMC data line from a gps
    > > >> receiver with a standard serial output. My problem is when I hook my
    > > >> ser out of my "jupiter" gps to read or see the data, via my laptop,
    > > >> 9600, 8,N,1 or any other logical combination, I get garbage. I tried
    > > Try 4800,8,N,1...
    > > BTW what type of program are you using to read in the data, and where did
    > > you purchase an antenna??
    > > _______________________________________________________
    > > | Pay attention to the details |
    > > | for it is the little details that |
    > > | will conquer you |
    > > |_______________________________________________________|
    > >
    > > Joseph Conner
    > > Wentz Hall
    > > Oklahoma State University
    > > Graduate Student
    > > (405)744-1887
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-06-22 00:22
    I soldered a 4 inch piece of wire onto the center of the antenna connector -
    works fine outside
    but no reception in the house

    seems to make no difference as to straight wire or curled up for circular
    polarization

    richard




    Original Message
    From: William E. Mrozinski <dcs@h...>
    To: <basicstamps@egroups.com>
    Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 3:33 PM
    Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: GPS to Stamp


    > Ralph,
    >
    > Where did you get the antenna adapter!?! I have four of these Jupiter
    > boards ready to test with, but I haven't ordered antennas yet. Have you
    > determined the exact connector required?
    >
    > The spec sheet for a -221 says that it offers a straight OSX ( female? )
    on the
    > board. Can't find many of the small active antennas that offer an osx
    > connector or adapter. I read somewhere that OSX is also called MCX but
    that
    > didn't help things much. Ideally, I'd like a right angle adapter and then
    be
    > able to connect the antenna to that. I need to stay with the smaller
    family of
    > connectors for a small footprint application; the usual bnc is way too big
    for
    > my app. There aren't many 'quick order' sources for a solution or
    reference.
    > Care to share your info? (g) In exchange I can offer the name of a vendor
    that
    > sells a plug-compatable replacement for this board. The prices are decent
    > too! This vendor has antennas at quite favorable prices ~$25.00 in low
    qtys.
    > I have not determined if this is an active ( probably not ) or passive.
    Great
    > price if it is an active antenna.
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Bill Mrozinski - DCS
    >
    > Ralph Rogers wrote:
    >
    > > When I take the output of my hand held GPS receiver and connect it
    to
    > > the serial input of my laptop and run HyperTerminal, I can see the data
    ok.
    > > When I hookup the output of the Jupiter receiver to the same input on my
    > > laptop, It looks like garbage. I tried every baud rate, stop bits,
    parity,
    > > etc. I don't have an antenna hooked up yet. I do have an antenna but
    I'm
    > > waiting for an adapter.
    > >
    > > Thanks
    > > Ralph
    > >
    Original Message
    > > From: Joseph Conner <connjos@w...>
    > > To: <basicstamps@egroups.com>
    > > Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 3:11 AM
    > > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: GPS to Stamp
    > >
    > > >
    > > > At 05:55 6/11/2000 -0400, you wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > >> Thanks for your response. Can I pick your brain I step further.
    I
    > > > >> have
    > > > >> the code for the Stamp II that can decipher GPRMC data line from a
    gps
    > > > >> receiver with a standard serial output. My problem is when I hook
    my
    > > > >> ser out of my "jupiter" gps to read or see the data, via my laptop,
    > > > >> 9600, 8,N,1 or any other logical combination, I get garbage. I
    tried
    > > > Try 4800,8,N,1...
    > > > BTW what type of program are you using to read in the data, and where
    did
    > > > you purchase an antenna??
    > > > _______________________________________________________
    > > > | Pay attention to the details |
    > > > | for it is the little details that |
    > > > | will conquer you |
    > > > |_______________________________________________________|
    > > >
    > > > Joseph Conner
    > > > Wentz Hall
    > > > Oklahoma State University
    > > > Graduate Student
    > > > (405)744-1887
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-06-22 00:47
    Richard,

    When I was reading back researching for the prev post I saw a post from you
    ( I think? ) saying that they had used an 8" length of wire successfully. I'm
    willing to try it as long as it shouldn't harm the unit. My analog ele is weak,
    does this provide a sufficient load to avoid any damage to the receiver or is
    this even an issue? What about the antenna ground lead in this case, just
    hanging open or what? This sounds like a great temp solution until I can line
    up a right angle osx/mcx/sma(b?) connector and appropriate mate for an antenna.
    I have been delaying my project ( and powering up any of these boards! ) until I
    had an antenna to connect up.

    All the 'shrink-wrap' antennas have a huge lead on them as well, I'd like
    one about 3" long and several others about 10" long only. I think I'm gonna
    have to roll my own! ( If I can source the connectors that is...) Thanks for
    the tip though and I would welcome any additional insight you may have on the
    above issues...

    Bill

    dakota wrote:

    > I soldered a 4 inch piece of wire onto the center of the antenna connector -
    > works fine outside
    > but no reception in the house
    >
    > seems to make no difference as to straight wire or curled up for circular
    > polarization
    >
    > richard
    >
    >
    Original Message
    > From: William E. Mrozinski <dcs@h...>
    > To: <basicstamps@egroups.com>
    > Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 3:33 PM
    > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: GPS to Stamp
    >
    > > Ralph,
    > >
    > > Where did you get the antenna adapter!?! I have four of these Jupiter
    > > boards ready to test with, but I haven't ordered antennas yet. Have you
    > > determined the exact connector required?
    > >
    > > The spec sheet for a -221 says that it offers a straight OSX ( female? )
    > on the
    > > board. Can't find many of the small active antennas that offer an osx
    > > connector or adapter. I read somewhere that OSX is also called MCX but
    > that
    > > didn't help things much. Ideally, I'd like a right angle adapter and then
    > be
    > > able to connect the antenna to that. I need to stay with the smaller
    > family of
    > > connectors for a small footprint application; the usual bnc is way too big
    > for
    > > my app. There aren't many 'quick order' sources for a solution or
    > reference.
    > > Care to share your info? (g) In exchange I can offer the name of a vendor
    > that
    > > sells a plug-compatable replacement for this board. The prices are decent
    > > too! This vendor has antennas at quite favorable prices ~$25.00 in low
    > qtys.
    > > I have not determined if this is an active ( probably not ) or passive.
    > Great
    > > price if it is an active antenna.
    > >
    > > Thanks,
    > > Bill Mrozinski - DCS
    > >
    > > Ralph Rogers wrote:
    > >
    > > > When I take the output of my hand held GPS receiver and connect it
    > to
    > > > the serial input of my laptop and run HyperTerminal, I can see the data
    > ok.
    > > > When I hookup the output of the Jupiter receiver to the same input on my
    > > > laptop, It looks like garbage. I tried every baud rate, stop bits,
    > parity,
    > > > etc. I don't have an antenna hooked up yet. I do have an antenna but
    > I'm
    > > > waiting for an adapter.
    > > >
    > > > Thanks
    > > > Ralph
    > > >
    Original Message
    > > > From: Joseph Conner <connjos@w...>
    > > > To: <basicstamps@egroups.com>
    > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 3:11 AM
    > > > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: GPS to Stamp
    > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > At 05:55 6/11/2000 -0400, you wrote:
    > > > > >
    > > > > >> Thanks for your response. Can I pick your brain I step further.
    > I
    > > > > >> have
    > > > > >> the code for the Stamp II that can decipher GPRMC data line from a
    > gps
    > > > > >> receiver with a standard serial output. My problem is when I hook
    > my
    > > > > >> ser out of my "jupiter" gps to read or see the data, via my laptop,
    > > > > >> 9600, 8,N,1 or any other logical combination, I get garbage. I
    > tried
    > > > > Try 4800,8,N,1...
    > > > > BTW what type of program are you using to read in the data, and where
    > did
    > > > > you purchase an antenna??
    > > > > _______________________________________________________
    > > > > | Pay attention to the details |
    > > > > | for it is the little details that |
    > > > > | will conquer you |
    > > > > |_______________________________________________________|
    > > > >
    > > > > Joseph Conner
    > > > > Wentz Hall
    > > > > Oklahoma State University
    > > > > Graduate Student
    > > > > (405)744-1887
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-06-22 11:05
    Ralph Rogers wrote:
    >When I hookup the output of the Jupiter receiver to the same input on my
    >laptop, It looks like garbage. I tried every baud rate, stop bits, parity,
    >etc.

    Save yourself lots of grief! Here are the locations of all the documentation
    that you will ever need for your Jupiter. I suspect that the Jupiter powers
    up in the default binary data mode and the garbage you see really isn't
    garbage. You will need to command the Jupiter into the NMEA mode as it's
    native mode of communication is Binary. Please take the time to read ALL the
    documentation:

    Zodiac GPS Receiver Family Designers Guide - (142 page)
    http://www.unitronic.de/rockwell/pdf/gps/Zodiac%20DG_GPS-33.pdf

    Zodiac Serial Data Interface Specification - (84 page)
    http://www.c2-tech.com/~steveb/ka9mva/zodiac.pdf

    Manual - (18 page)
    http://www.unitronic.de/rockwell/pdf/gps/gd003g.pdf

    Hope this helps

    Vic

    _____________________________________________________

    Victor Fraenckel - The Windman vfraenc1@n...
    Home of the WindReader Electronic Theodolite
    Read the WIND
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-06-22 14:13
    If you Know what type connector it is try www.pasternack.com they have all kinds
    of commectors as well as adapters and cacles.

    >>> "William E. Mrozinski" <dcs@h...> 06/21/00 06:47PM >>>
    Richard,

    When I was reading back researching for the prev post I saw a post from you
    ( I think? ) saying that they had used an 8" length of wire successfully. I'm
    willing to try it as long as it shouldn't harm the unit. My analog ele is weak,
    does this provide a sufficient load to avoid any damage to the receiver or is
    this even an issue? What about the antenna ground lead in this case, just
    hanging open or what? This sounds like a great temp solution until I can line
    up a right angle osx/mcx/sma(b?) connector and appropriate mate for an antenna.
    I have been delaying my project ( and powering up any of these boards! ) until I
    had an antenna to connect up.

    All the 'shrink-wrap' antennas have a huge lead on them as well, I'd like
    one about 3" long and several others about 10" long only. I think I'm gonna
    have to roll my own! ( If I can source the connectors that is...) Thanks for
    the tip though and I would welcome any additional insight you may have on the
    above issues...

    Bill

    dakota wrote:

    > I soldered a 4 inch piece of wire onto the center of the antenna connector -
    > works fine outside
    > but no reception in the house
    >
    > seems to make no difference as to straight wire or curled up for circular
    > polarization
    >
    > richard
    >
    >
    Original Message
    > From: William E. Mrozinski <dcs@h...>
    > To: <basicstamps@egroups.com>
    > Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 3:33 PM
    > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: GPS to Stamp
    >
    > > Ralph,
    > >
    > > Where did you get the antenna adapter!?! I have four of these Jupiter
    > > boards ready to test with, but I haven't ordered antennas yet. Have you
    > > determined the exact connector required?
    > >
    > > The spec sheet for a -221 says that it offers a straight OSX ( female? )
    > on the
    > > board. Can't find many of the small active antennas that offer an osx
    > > connector or adapter. I read somewhere that OSX is also called MCX but
    > that
    > > didn't help things much. Ideally, I'd like a right angle adapter and then
    > be
    > > able to connect the antenna to that. I need to stay with the smaller
    > family of
    > > connectors for a small footprint application; the usual bnc is way too big
    > for
    > > my app. There aren't many 'quick order' sources for a solution or
    > reference.
    > > Care to share your info? (g) In exchange I can offer the name of a vendor
    > that
    > > sells a plug-compatable replacement for this board. The prices are decent
    > > too! This vendor has antennas at quite favorable prices ~$25.00 in low
    > qtys.
    > > I have not determined if this is an active ( probably not ) or passive.
    > Great
    > > price if it is an active antenna.
    > >
    > > Thanks,
    > > Bill Mrozinski - DCS
    > >
    > > Ralph Rogers wrote:
    > >
    > > > When I take the output of my hand held GPS receiver and connect it
    > to
    > > > the serial input of my laptop and run HyperTerminal, I can see the data
    > ok.
    > > > When I hookup the output of the Jupiter receiver to the same input on my
    > > > laptop, It looks like garbage. I tried every baud rate, stop bits,
    > parity,
    > > > etc. I don't have an antenna hooked up yet. I do have an antenna but
    > I'm
    > > > waiting for an adapter.
    > > >
    > > > Thanks
    > > > Ralph
    > > >
    Original Message
    > > > From: Joseph Conner <connjos@w...>
    > > > To: <basicstamps@egroups.com>
    > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 3:11 AM
    > > > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: GPS to Stamp
    > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > At 05:55 6/11/2000 -0400, you wrote:
    > > > > >
    > > > > >> Thanks for your response. Can I pick your brain I step further.
    > I
    > > > > >> have
    > > > > >> the code for the Stamp II that can decipher GPRMC data line from a
    > gps
    > > > > >> receiver with a standard serial output. My problem is when I hook
    > my
    > > > > >> ser out of my "jupiter" gps to read or see the data, via my laptop,
    > > > > >> 9600, 8,N,1 or any other logical combination, I get garbage. I
    > tried
    > > > > Try 4800,8,N,1...
    > > > > BTW what type of program are you using to read in the data, and where
    > did
    > > > > you purchase an antenna??
    > > > > _______________________________________________________
    > > > > | Pay attention to the details |
    > > > > | for it is the little details that |
    > > > > | will conquer you |
    > > > > |_______________________________________________________|
    > > > >
    > > > > Joseph Conner
    > > > > Wentz Hall
    > > > > Oklahoma State University
    > > > > Graduate Student
    > > > > (405)744-1887
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-06-22 17:18
    I don't think that an antenna, no matter how badly mismatched, can damage a
    rx - it just wont work as well as it could. That however is definitely not
    the case for transmitters and transmitting antennas.

    Also the gps is in the 1500 MHz range - that is the reason I choose a 4 or 8
    inch wire since it is a multiple of the wavelength.

    The transmission line losses are huge at that frequency. so make the lead in
    wire as short as possible- I had a zero length transmission line when I
    soldered my antenna to the center terminal.

    an active antenna is a good solution to the problem but I am on a shoestring
    budget and I didn't want to spend $30 -100

    I know that ground planes are good for vertical polarized antennas, I guess
    I am relying on the ground traces on the board for the ground plane - it
    works anyway

    Also I believe that the gps signal is right hand circularly polarized - I am
    not sure that a ground plane helps in that situation.

    richard



    Original Message
    From: Scott Tappan <stappan@t...>
    To: <basicstamps@egroups.com>
    Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 8:13 AM
    Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: GPS to Stamp


    > If you Know what type connector it is try www.pasternack.com they have all
    kinds of commectors as well as adapters and cacles.
    >
    > >>> "William E. Mrozinski" <dcs@h...> 06/21/00 06:47PM >>>
    > Richard,
    >
    > When I was reading back researching for the prev post I saw a post
    from you
    > ( I think? ) saying that they had used an 8" length of wire successfully.
    I'm
    > willing to try it as long as it shouldn't harm the unit. My analog ele is
    weak,
    > does this provide a sufficient load to avoid any damage to the receiver or
    is
    > this even an issue? What about the antenna ground lead in this case, just
    > hanging open or what? This sounds like a great temp solution until I can
    line
    > up a right angle osx/mcx/sma(b?) connector and appropriate mate for an
    antenna.
    > I have been delaying my project ( and powering up any of these boards! )
    until I
    > had an antenna to connect up.
    >
    > All the 'shrink-wrap' antennas have a huge lead on them as well, I'd
    like
    > one about 3" long and several others about 10" long only. I think I'm
    gonna
    > have to roll my own! ( If I can source the connectors that is...) Thanks
    for
    > the tip though and I would welcome any additional insight you may have on
    the
    > above issues...
    >
    > Bill
    >
    > dakota wrote:
    >
    > > I soldered a 4 inch piece of wire onto the center of the antenna
    connector -
    > > works fine outside
    > > but no reception in the house
    > >
    > > seems to make no difference as to straight wire or curled up for
    circular
    > > polarization
    > >
    > > richard
    > >
    > >
    Original Message
    > > From: William E. Mrozinski <dcs@h...>
    > > To: <basicstamps@egroups.com>
    > > Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 3:33 PM
    > > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: GPS to Stamp
    > >
    > > > Ralph,
    > > >
    > > > Where did you get the antenna adapter!?! I have four of these
    Jupiter
    > > > boards ready to test with, but I haven't ordered antennas yet. Have
    you
    > > > determined the exact connector required?
    > > >
    > > > The spec sheet for a -221 says that it offers a straight OSX
    ( female? )
    > > on the
    > > > board. Can't find many of the small active antennas that offer an osx
    > > > connector or adapter. I read somewhere that OSX is also called MCX
    but
    > > that
    > > > didn't help things much. Ideally, I'd like a right angle adapter and
    then
    > > be
    > > > able to connect the antenna to that. I need to stay with the smaller
    > > family of
    > > > connectors for a small footprint application; the usual bnc is way too
    big
    > > for
    > > > my app. There aren't many 'quick order' sources for a solution or
    > > reference.
    > > > Care to share your info? (g) In exchange I can offer the name of a
    vendor
    > > that
    > > > sells a plug-compatable replacement for this board. The prices are
    decent
    > > > too! This vendor has antennas at quite favorable prices ~$25.00 in
    low
    > > qtys.
    > > > I have not determined if this is an active ( probably not ) or
    passive.
    > > Great
    > > > price if it is an active antenna.
    > > >
    > > > Thanks,
    > > > Bill Mrozinski - DCS
    > > >
    > > > Ralph Rogers wrote:
    > > >
    > > > > When I take the output of my hand held GPS receiver and connect
    it
    > > to
    > > > > the serial input of my laptop and run HyperTerminal, I can see the
    data
    > > ok.
    > > > > When I hookup the output of the Jupiter receiver to the same input
    on my
    > > > > laptop, It looks like garbage. I tried every baud rate, stop bits,
    > > parity,
    > > > > etc. I don't have an antenna hooked up yet. I do have an antenna
    but
    > > I'm
    > > > > waiting for an adapter.
    > > > >
    > > > > Thanks
    > > > > Ralph
    > > > >
    Original Message
    > > > > From: Joseph Conner <connjos@w...>
    > > > > To: <basicstamps@egroups.com>
    > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 3:11 AM
    > > > > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: GPS to Stamp
    > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > > At 05:55 6/11/2000 -0400, you wrote:
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > >> Thanks for your response. Can I pick your brain I step
    further.
    > > I
    > > > > > >> have
    > > > > > >> the code for the Stamp II that can decipher GPRMC data line
    from a
    > > gps
    > > > > > >> receiver with a standard serial output. My problem is when I
    hook
    > > my
    > > > > > >> ser out of my "jupiter" gps to read or see the data, via my
    laptop,
    > > > > > >> 9600, 8,N,1 or any other logical combination, I get garbage. I
    > > tried
    > > > > > Try 4800,8,N,1...
    > > > > > BTW what type of program are you using to read in the data, and
    where
    > > did
    > > > > > you purchase an antenna??
    > > > > > _______________________________________________________
    > > > > > | Pay attention to the details |
    > > > > > | for it is the little details that |
    > > > > > | will conquer you |
    > > > > > |_______________________________________________________|
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Joseph Conner
    > > > > > Wentz Hall
    > > > > > Oklahoma State University
    > > > > > Graduate Student
    > > > > > (405)744-1887
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-06-23 01:14
    Bill
    Actually is was sent to me from someone else. A piece of wire would
    probably work on a passive antenna but not an active one, (which needs a dc
    voltage to drive the preamp in the antenna).

    Ralph
    Original Message
    From: Scott Tappan <stappan@t...>
    To: <basicstamps@egroups.com>
    Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 9:13 AM
    Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: GPS to Stamp


    > If you Know what type connector it is try www.pasternack.com they have all
    kinds of commectors as well as adapters and cacles.
    >
    > >>> "William E. Mrozinski" <dcs@h...> 06/21/00 06:47PM >>>
    > Richard,
    >
    > When I was reading back researching for the prev post I saw a post
    from you
    > ( I think? ) saying that they had used an 8" length of wire successfully.
    I'm
    > willing to try it as long as it shouldn't harm the unit. My analog ele is
    weak,
    > does this provide a sufficient load to avoid any damage to the receiver or
    is
    > this even an issue? What about the antenna ground lead in this case, just
    > hanging open or what? This sounds like a great temp solution until I can
    line
    > up a right angle osx/mcx/sma(b?) connector and appropriate mate for an
    antenna.
    > I have been delaying my project ( and powering up any of these boards! )
    until I
    > had an antenna to connect up.
    >
    > All the 'shrink-wrap' antennas have a huge lead on them as well, I'd
    like
    > one about 3" long and several others about 10" long only. I think I'm
    gonna
    > have to roll my own! ( If I can source the connectors that is...) Thanks
    for
    > the tip though and I would welcome any additional insight you may have on
    the
    > above issues...
    >
    > Bill
    >
    > dakota wrote:
    >
    > > I soldered a 4 inch piece of wire onto the center of the antenna
    connector -
    > > works fine outside
    > > but no reception in the house
    > >
    > > seems to make no difference as to straight wire or curled up for
    circular
    > > polarization
    > >
    > > richard
    > >
    > >
    Original Message
    > > From: William E. Mrozinski <dcs@h...>
    > > To: <basicstamps@egroups.com>
    > > Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 3:33 PM
    > > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: GPS to Stamp
    > >
    > > > Ralph,
    > > >
    > > > Where did you get the antenna adapter!?! I have four of these
    Jupiter
    > > > boards ready to test with, but I haven't ordered antennas yet. Have
    you
    > > > determined the exact connector required?
    > > >
    > > > The spec sheet for a -221 says that it offers a straight OSX
    ( female? )
    > > on the
    > > > board. Can't find many of the small active antennas that offer an osx
    > > > connector or adapter. I read somewhere that OSX is also called MCX
    but
    > > that
    > > > didn't help things much. Ideally, I'd like a right angle adapter and
    then
    > > be
    > > > able to connect the antenna to that. I need to stay with the smaller
    > > family of
    > > > connectors for a small footprint application; the usual bnc is way too
    big
    > > for
    > > > my app. There aren't many 'quick order' sources for a solution or
    > > reference.
    > > > Care to share your info? (g) In exchange I can offer the name of a
    vendor
    > > that
    > > > sells a plug-compatable replacement for this board. The prices are
    decent
    > > > too! This vendor has antennas at quite favorable prices ~$25.00 in
    low
    > > qtys.
    > > > I have not determined if this is an active ( probably not ) or
    passive.
    > > Great
    > > > price if it is an active antenna.
    > > >
    > > > Thanks,
    > > > Bill Mrozinski - DCS
    > > >
    > > > Ralph Rogers wrote:
    > > >
    > > > > When I take the output of my hand held GPS receiver and connect
    it
    > > to
    > > > > the serial input of my laptop and run HyperTerminal, I can see the
    data
    > > ok.
    > > > > When I hookup the output of the Jupiter receiver to the same input
    on my
    > > > > laptop, It looks like garbage. I tried every baud rate, stop bits,
    > > parity,
    > > > > etc. I don't have an antenna hooked up yet. I do have an antenna
    but
    > > I'm
    > > > > waiting for an adapter.
    > > > >
    > > > > Thanks
    > > > > Ralph
    > > > >
    Original Message
    > > > > From: Joseph Conner <connjos@w...>
    > > > > To: <basicstamps@egroups.com>
    > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 3:11 AM
    > > > > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: GPS to Stamp
    > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > > At 05:55 6/11/2000 -0400, you wrote:
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > >> Thanks for your response. Can I pick your brain I step
    further.
    > > I
    > > > > > >> have
    > > > > > >> the code for the Stamp II that can decipher GPRMC data line
    from a
    > > gps
    > > > > > >> receiver with a standard serial output. My problem is when I
    hook
    > > my
    > > > > > >> ser out of my "jupiter" gps to read or see the data, via my
    laptop,
    > > > > > >> 9600, 8,N,1 or any other logical combination, I get garbage. I
    > > tried
    > > > > > Try 4800,8,N,1...
    > > > > > BTW what type of program are you using to read in the data, and
    where
    > > did
    > > > > > you purchase an antenna??
    > > > > > _______________________________________________________
    > > > > > | Pay attention to the details |
    > > > > > | for it is the little details that |
    > > > > > | will conquer you |
    > > > > > |_______________________________________________________|
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Joseph Conner
    > > > > > Wentz Hall
    > > > > > Oklahoma State University
    > > > > > Graduate Student
    > > > > > (405)744-1887
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-06-23 01:22
    Vic
    Thanks for the response. I drove the NEMA Protocol input pin 7 to a low per
    the documentation and I still can't interpret the data.

    Ralph
    Original Message
    From: Victorf <vfraenc1@n...>
    To: Stamp Mailing List <basicstamps@egroups.com >
    Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 6:05 AM
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: GPS to Stamp


    > Ralph Rogers wrote:
    > >When I hookup the output of the Jupiter receiver to the same input on my
    > >laptop, It looks like garbage. I tried every baud rate, stop bits,
    parity,
    > >etc.
    >
    > Save yourself lots of grief! Here are the locations of all the
    documentation
    > that you will ever need for your Jupiter. I suspect that the Jupiter
    powers
    > up in the default binary data mode and the garbage you see really isn't
    > garbage. You will need to command the Jupiter into the NMEA mode as it's
    > native mode of communication is Binary. Please take the time to read ALL
    the
    > documentation:
    >
    > Zodiac GPS Receiver Family Designers Guide - (142 page)
    > http://www.unitronic.de/rockwell/pdf/gps/Zodiac%20DG_GPS-33.pdf
    >
    > Zodiac Serial Data Interface Specification - (84 page)
    > http://www.c2-tech.com/~steveb/ka9mva/zodiac.pdf
    >
    > Manual - (18 page)
    > http://www.unitronic.de/rockwell/pdf/gps/gd003g.pdf
    >
    > Hope this helps
    >
    > Vic
    >
    > _____________________________________________________
    >
    > Victor Fraenckel - The Windman vfraenc1@n...
    > Home of the WindReader Electronic Theodolite
    > Read the WIND
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-06-23 01:26
    Richard

    Thanks for the response. So the output of the Jupiter is TTL? Let me know
    if you need help deciphering the GPS data. I have the code that deciphers
    GPRMC data line. Easily changed for your app.

    Ralph
    Original Message
    From: dakota <rfriedrich@i...>
    To: <basicstamps@egroups.com>
    Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 4:03 PM
    Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: GPS to Stamp


    > been there done that
    >
    > make sure that you set the baud to 4800
    > select NEMA 103
    > prob want to hook up 3 volt memory battery
    >
    > need to convert to real RS232 level signals - the gps outs out ttl rather
    > than +/- 10 volts or what ever RS232 is
    >
    > you need a converter chip like a Max-232
    >
    > I am trying to parse the huge amount of data that the gps dumps onto the
    > chip
    >
    >
    > richard
    >
    >
    >
    Original Message
    > From: Ralph Rogers <fdcsouth@9...>
    > To: <basicstamps@egroups.com>
    > Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 2:00 PM
    > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: GPS to Stamp
    >
    >
    > > When I take the output of my hand held GPS receiver and connect it
    to
    > > the serial input of my laptop and run HyperTerminal, I can see the data
    > ok.
    > > When I hookup the output of the Jupiter receiver to the same input on my
    > > laptop, It looks like garbage. I tried every baud rate, stop bits,
    > parity,
    > > etc. I don't have an antenna hooked up yet. I do have an antenna but
    I'm
    > > waiting for an adapter.
    > >
    > > Thanks
    > > Ralph
    > >
    Original Message
    > > From: Joseph Conner <connjos@w...>
    > > To: <basicstamps@egroups.com>
    > > Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 3:11 AM
    > > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: GPS to Stamp
    > >
    > >
    > > >
    > > > At 05:55 6/11/2000 -0400, you wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > >> Thanks for your response. Can I pick your brain I step further.
    I
    > > > >> have
    > > > >> the code for the Stamp II that can decipher GPRMC data line from a
    > gps
    > > > >> receiver with a standard serial output. My problem is when I hook
    my
    > > > >> ser out of my "jupiter" gps to read or see the data, via my laptop,
    > > > >> 9600, 8,N,1 or any other logical combination, I get garbage. I
    tried
    > > > Try 4800,8,N,1...
    > > > BTW what type of program are you using to read in the data, and where
    > did
    > > > you purchase an antenna??
    > > > _______________________________________________________
    > > > | Pay attention to the details |
    > > > | for it is the little details that |
    > > > | will conquer you |
    > > > |_______________________________________________________|
    > > >
    > > > Joseph Conner
    > > > Wentz Hall
    > > > Oklahoma State University
    > > > Graduate Student
    > > > (405)744-1887
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-06-23 01:32
    Bill

    There is a company in Jupiter/Stuart Florida that sells the adapter but
    the adapter I want is for a Motorola active antenna I got free, (pre amp
    included). I did a search for OSX on web crawler and yahoo to find a
    company. You can also buy connectors and crimpers for them. I don't care
    to go that direction. By the way, what is DCS.

    Ralph
    Original Message
    From: William E. Mrozinski <dcs@h...>
    To: <basicstamps@egroups.com>
    Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 4:33 PM
    Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: GPS to Stamp


    > Ralph,
    >
    > Where did you get the antenna adapter!?! I have four of these Jupiter
    > boards ready to test with, but I haven't ordered antennas yet. Have you
    > determined the exact connector required?
    >
    > The spec sheet for a -221 says that it offers a straight OSX ( female? )
    on the
    > board. Can't find many of the small active antennas that offer an osx
    > connector or adapter. I read somewhere that OSX is also called MCX but
    that
    > didn't help things much. Ideally, I'd like a right angle adapter and then
    be
    > able to connect the antenna to that. I need to stay with the smaller
    family of
    > connectors for a small footprint application; the usual bnc is way too big
    for
    > my app. There aren't many 'quick order' sources for a solution or
    reference.
    > Care to share your info? (g) In exchange I can offer the name of a vendor
    that
    > sells a plug-compatable replacement for this board. The prices are decent
    > too! This vendor has antennas at quite favorable prices ~$25.00 in low
    qtys.
    > I have not determined if this is an active ( probably not ) or passive.
    Great
    > price if it is an active antenna.
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Bill Mrozinski - DCS
    >
    > Ralph Rogers wrote:
    >
    > > When I take the output of my hand held GPS receiver and connect it
    to
    > > the serial input of my laptop and run HyperTerminal, I can see the data
    ok.
    > > When I hookup the output of the Jupiter receiver to the same input on my
    > > laptop, It looks like garbage. I tried every baud rate, stop bits,
    parity,
    > > etc. I don't have an antenna hooked up yet. I do have an antenna but
    I'm
    > > waiting for an adapter.
    > >
    > > Thanks
    > > Ralph
    > >
    Original Message
    > > From: Joseph Conner <connjos@w...>
    > > To: <basicstamps@egroups.com>
    > > Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 3:11 AM
    > > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: GPS to Stamp
    > >
    > > >
    > > > At 05:55 6/11/2000 -0400, you wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > >> Thanks for your response. Can I pick your brain I step further.
    I
    > > > >> have
    > > > >> the code for the Stamp II that can decipher GPRMC data line from a
    gps
    > > > >> receiver with a standard serial output. My problem is when I hook
    my
    > > > >> ser out of my "jupiter" gps to read or see the data, via my laptop,
    > > > >> 9600, 8,N,1 or any other logical combination, I get garbage. I
    tried
    > > > Try 4800,8,N,1...
    > > > BTW what type of program are you using to read in the data, and where
    did
    > > > you purchase an antenna??
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    > > > Wentz Hall
    > > > Oklahoma State University
    > > > Graduate Student
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-06-23 15:27
    thanks
    ill take you up on that
    please send me ASCII version
    since I am working on basicx-24

    thanks

    richard



    Original Message
    From: Ralph Rogers <fdcsouth@9...>
    To: <basicstamps@egroups.com>
    Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 7:26 PM
    Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: GPS to Stamp


    > Richard
    >
    > Thanks for the response. So the output of the Jupiter is TTL? Let me know
    > if you need help deciphering the GPS data. I have the code that deciphers
    > GPRMC data line. Easily changed for your app.
    >
    > Ralph
    >
    Original Message
    > From: Dakota <rfriedrich@i...>
    > To: <basicstamps@egroups.com>
    > Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 4:03 PM
    > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: GPS to Stamp
    >
    >
    > > been there done that
    > >
    > > make sure that you set the baud to 4800
    > > select NEMA 103
    > > prob want to hook up 3 volt memory battery
    > >
    > > need to convert to real RS232 level signals - the gps outs out ttl
    rather
    > > than +/- 10 volts or what ever RS232 is
    > >
    > > you need a converter chip like a Max-232
    > >
    > > I am trying to parse the huge amount of data that the gps dumps onto the
    > > chip
    > >
    > >
    > > richard
    > >
    > >
    > >
    Original Message
    > > From: Ralph Rogers <fdcsouth@9...>
    > > To: <basicstamps@egroups.com>
    > > Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 2:00 PM
    > > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: GPS to Stamp
    > >
    > >
    > > > When I take the output of my hand held GPS receiver and connect it
    > to
    > > > the serial input of my laptop and run HyperTerminal, I can see the
    data
    > > ok.
    > > > When I hookup the output of the Jupiter receiver to the same input on
    my
    > > > laptop, It looks like garbage. I tried every baud rate, stop bits,
    > > parity,
    > > > etc. I don't have an antenna hooked up yet. I do have an antenna but
    > I'm
    > > > waiting for an adapter.
    > > >
    > > > Thanks
    > > > Ralph
    > > >
    Original Message
    > > > From: Joseph Conner <connjos@w...>
    > > > To: <basicstamps@egroups.com>
    > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 3:11 AM
    > > > Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: GPS to Stamp
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > At 05:55 6/11/2000 -0400, you wrote:
    > > > > >
    > > > > >> Thanks for your response. Can I pick your brain I step
    further.
    > I
    > > > > >> have
    > > > > >> the code for the Stamp II that can decipher GPRMC data line from
    a
    > > gps
    > > > > >> receiver with a standard serial output. My problem is when I
    hook
    > my
    > > > > >> ser out of my "jupiter" gps to read or see the data, via my
    laptop,
    > > > > >> 9600, 8,N,1 or any other logical combination, I get garbage. I
    > tried
    > > > > Try 4800,8,N,1...
    > > > > BTW what type of program are you using to read in the data, and
    where
    > > did
    > > > > you purchase an antenna??
    > > > > _______________________________________________________
    > > > > | Pay attention to the details |
    > > > > | for it is the little details that |
    > > > > | will conquer you |
    > > > > |_______________________________________________________|
    > > > >
    > > > > Joseph Conner
    > > > > Wentz Hall
    > > > > Oklahoma State University
    > > > > Graduate Student
    > > > > (405)744-1887
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-07-25 03:17
    At 16:33 6/21/2000 -0400, you wrote:
    >
    >Ralph,
    >
    > Where did you get the antenna adapter!?! I have four of these Jupiter
    >boards ready to test with, but I haven't ordered antennas yet. Have you
    >determined the exact connector required?
    >
    >The spec sheet for a -221 says that it offers a straight OSX ( female? )
    on the
    >board. Can't find many of the small active antennas that offer an osx
    >connector or adapter. I read somewhere that OSX is also called MCX but that
    >didn't help things much. Ideally, I'd like a right angle adapter and then be
    >able to connect the antenna to that. I need to stay with the smaller
    family of
    >connectors for a small footprint application; the usual bnc is way too big
    for
    >my app. There aren't many 'quick order' sources for a solution or reference.
    >Care to share your info? (g) In exchange I can offer the name of a vendor
    that
    >sells a plug-compatable replacement for this board. The prices are decent
    >too! This vendor has antennas at quite favorable prices ~$25.00 in low qtys.
    >I have not determined if this is an active ( probably not ) or passive.
    Great
    >price if it is an active antenna.

    Have you found out where you can get the adapter for the Jupiter GPS yet..
    I am working with one as well, and have yet to find a source for the antenna..

    BTW... have you found any place that carries the adaptor for the pins. I
    relly do not want to just solder the wires in place. Any infor you can give
    would be of great aid, as I am planing on using this unit in a project for
    school.
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-07-25 15:05
    stick an 8 inch piece of small dia solid wire into the center conductor

    richard


    Original Message
    From: "Joseph Conner" <connjos@w...>
    To: <basicstamps@egroups.com>
    Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 9:17 PM
    Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: GPS to Stamp


    >
    > At 16:33 6/21/2000 -0400, you wrote:
    > >
    > >Ralph,
    > >
    > > Where did you get the antenna adapter!?! I have four of these
    Jupiter
    > >boards ready to test with, but I haven't ordered antennas yet. Have you
    > >determined the exact connector required?
    > >
    > >The spec sheet for a -221 says that it offers a straight OSX ( female? )
    > on the
    > >board. Can't find many of the small active antennas that offer an osx
    > >connector or adapter. I read somewhere that OSX is also called MCX but
    that
    > >didn't help things much. Ideally, I'd like a right angle adapter and
    then be
    > >able to connect the antenna to that. I need to stay with the smaller
    > family of
    > >connectors for a small footprint application; the usual bnc is way too
    big
    > for
    > >my app. There aren't many 'quick order' sources for a solution or
    reference.
    > >Care to share your info? (g) In exchange I can offer the name of a
    vendor
    > that
    > >sells a plug-compatable replacement for this board. The prices are
    decent
    > >too! This vendor has antennas at quite favorable prices ~$25.00 in low
    qtys.
    > >I have not determined if this is an active ( probably not ) or passive.
    > Great
    > >price if it is an active antenna.
    >
    > Have you found out where you can get the adapter for the Jupiter GPS yet..
    > I am working with one as well, and have yet to find a source for the
    antenna..
    >
    > BTW... have you found any place that carries the adaptor for the pins. I
    > relly do not want to just solder the wires in place. Any infor you can
    give
    > would be of great aid, as I am planing on using this unit in a project for
    > school.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-09-01 06:38
    I am working on a project the involes the 'Jupiter' GPS and the STAMP II
    and I have a few questions.

    1. Has any gotten the Jupiter to work in RMC mode yet, and if so how did
    you get it in the right mode?

    2. Did you find that you where able to directly hook the STAMP to the
    Jupiter with the serial port?

    3. Where you able to get LABMON working?

    Any information or schemactics on how you have gotten the system to work
    would be of great aid...


    Thnks in Advance..
    Joe
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-09-02 16:57
    I got mine talking to a bx-24
    what is rmc mode ?

    thanks

    richard


    Original Message
    From: "Joseph Conner" <connjos@w...>
    To: <basicstamps@egroups.com>
    Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 12:38 AM
    Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: GPS to Stamp


    >
    > I am working on a project the involes the 'Jupiter' GPS and the STAMP II
    > and I have a few questions.
    >
    > 1. Has any gotten the Jupiter to work in RMC mode yet, and if so how did
    > you get it in the right mode?
    >
    > 2. Did you find that you where able to directly hook the STAMP to the
    > Jupiter with the serial port?
    >
    > 3. Where you able to get LABMON working?
    >
    > Any information or schemactics on how you have gotten the system to work
    > would be of great aid...
    >
    >
    > Thnks in Advance..
    > Joe
    >
    >
    >
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