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Original Message
> i have seen reference to people using gps stamp
> interfaces for model planes and now a rc truck
> please anyone working or developing anything of this
> nature becarefull gps is a usefull thing but in the
> wrong hand's it could be used for some bad thing's
> you don't have any way of knowing what someone want's
> with that information they might not have hit the
> towers in nyc if they didn't have that gps unit
Hi,
Most commercial airliners do not use GPS. The FAA has not universally
approved it. It is used on smaller private planes and jets. The US Military has
the
option to degrade the GPS System or shut it off whenever it wants to. It is
their system and we just get to borrow it. If they turned it off for a security
issue, what would happen to all the planes in the air flying in the soup
(Clouds)? Not reliable enough so they use their own NAV systems.
The airliners use a very expensive Inertial Guidance System. It uses Ring
Lasers and all sorts of precision junk to keep track of where they are and where
they want to go.
The Hijackers just input the coordinates of the targets and Viola the plane
flew there on auto pilot. Im sure they hand flew the planes when they had a
visual on the targets.
The newspapers should be more careful about whipping up this type of
hysteria.
Remember the job of the News Industry is to sell advertising. They don't make
any money reporting news. Good news docent sell.
With no GPS they would read maps...so lets ban maps..then they would stop to
ask directions.....so lets make it illegal to give dirrections...etc...etc..
Sorry for the tirade but this kind of thinking (Not yours Kenneth) is as much
the problem as the terrorists are.
Nuff said.
Alan Bradford
Plasma Technologies
[noparse][[/noparse]Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
understood the point i was making is any information
about gps interfacing used to guide anything rc toy
robot whatever would be a goldmine for for people
intent on doing harm to others that's all.
--- plasmastamp@a... wrote:
> Hi,
> Most commercial airliners do not use GPS. The FAA
> has not universally
> approved it. It is used on smaller private planes
> and jets. The US Military has the
> option to degrade the GPS System or shut it off
> whenever it wants to. It is
> their system and we just get to borrow it. If they
> turned it off for a security
> issue, what would happen to all the planes in the
> air flying in the soup
> (Clouds)? Not reliable enough so they use their own
> NAV systems.
> The airliners use a very expensive Inertial Guidance
> System. It uses Ring
> Lasers and all sorts of precision junk to keep track
> of where they are and where
> they want to go.
>
> The Hijackers just input the coordinates of the
> targets and Viola the plane
> flew there on auto pilot. Im sure they hand flew the
> planes when they had a
> visual on the targets.
>
> The newspapers should be more careful about whipping
> up this type of
> hysteria.
> Remember the job of the News Industry is to sell
> advertising. They don't make
> any money reporting news. Good news docent sell.
>
> With no GPS they would read maps...so lets ban
> maps..then they would stop to
> ask directions.....so lets make it illegal to give
> dirrections...etc...etc..
>
> Sorry for the tirade but this kind of thinking (Not
> yours Kenneth) is as much
> the problem as the terrorists are.
>
> Nuff said.
> Alan Bradford
> Plasma Technologies
>
>
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> removed]
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Hi Kenneth,
Sorry for the outburst, but it was building up and just slipped out. Ill save
it for another forum.
Unfortunately I don't know much about RC servos ant stuff.
Good Luck,
Alan Bradford
Plasma Technologies
In a message dated 5/30/03 2:29:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kenneth_m_73149@y... writes:
> understood the point i was making is any information
> about gps interfacing used to guide anything rc toy
> robot whatever would be a goldmine for for people
> intent on doing harm to others that's all.
>
[noparse][[/noparse]Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Sorry, you might as well shut down this entire list. We don't know, for the
most part, who any of these people are, or how they make use of any of the
info disseminated on this forum. You're fighting a losing battle.
Gene
Stress is when you wake up screaming and you realize you haven't gone to
sleep yet.
understood the point i was making is any information
about gps interfacing used to guide anything rc toy
robot whatever would be a goldmine for for people
intent on doing harm to others that's all.
--- plasmastamp@a... wrote:
> Hi,
> Most commercial airliners do not use GPS. The FAA
> has not universally
> approved it. It is used on smaller private planes
> and jets. The US Military has the
> option to degrade the GPS System or shut it off
> whenever it wants to. It is
> their system and we just get to borrow it. If they
> turned it off for a security
> issue, what would happen to all the planes in the
> air flying in the soup
> (Clouds)? Not reliable enough so they use their own
> NAV systems.
> The airliners use a very expensive Inertial Guidance
> System. It uses Ring
> Lasers and all sorts of precision junk to keep track
> of where they are and where
> they want to go.
>
> The Hijackers just input the coordinates of the
> targets and Viola the plane
> flew there on auto pilot. Im sure they hand flew the
> planes when they had a
> visual on the targets.
>
> The newspapers should be more careful about whipping
> up this type of
> hysteria.
> Remember the job of the News Industry is to sell
> advertising. They don't make
> any money reporting news. Good news docent sell.
>
> With no GPS they would read maps...so lets ban
> maps..then they would stop to
> ask directions.....so lets make it illegal to give
> dirrections...etc...etc..
>
> Sorry for the tirade but this kind of thinking (Not
> yours Kenneth) is as much
> the problem as the terrorists are.
>
> Nuff said.
> Alan Bradford
> Plasma Technologies
>
>
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> removed]
>
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Sorry, you might as well shut down this entire list. We don't know, for
the most part, who any of these people are, or how they make use of any
of the info disseminated on this forum. You're fighting a losing battle.
Gene
Stress is when you wake up screaming and you realize you haven't gone to
sleep yet.
understood the point i was making is any information
about gps interfacing used to guide anything rc toy
robot whatever would be a goldmine for for people
intent on doing harm to others that's all.
--- plasmastamp@a... wrote:
> Hi,
> Most commercial airliners do not use GPS. The FAA
> has not universally
> approved it. It is used on smaller private planes
> and jets. The US Military has the
> option to degrade the GPS System or shut it off
> whenever it wants to. It is
> their system and we just get to borrow it. If they
> turned it off for a security
> issue, what would happen to all the planes in the
> air flying in the soup
> (Clouds)? Not reliable enough so they use their own
> NAV systems.
> The airliners use a very expensive Inertial Guidance
> System. It uses Ring
> Lasers and all sorts of precision junk to keep track
> of where they are and where
> they want to go.
>
> The Hijackers just input the coordinates of the
> targets and Viola the plane
> flew there on auto pilot. Im sure they hand flew the
> planes when they had a
> visual on the targets.
>
> The newspapers should be more careful about whipping
> up this type of
> hysteria.
> Remember the job of the News Industry is to sell
> advertising. They don't make
> any money reporting news. Good news docent sell.
>
> With no GPS they would read maps...so lets ban
> maps..then they would stop to
> ask directions.....so lets make it illegal to give
> dirrections...etc...etc..
>
> Sorry for the tirade but this kind of thinking (Not
> yours Kenneth) is as much
> the problem as the terrorists are.
>
> Nuff said.
> Alan Bradford
> Plasma Technologies
>
>
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That exact thought and some peculiar e-mail requests from foreign lands [noparse][[/noparse]like
"How do I control a model rocket with GPS and a BASIC Stamp?] caused me to
delay publishing our GPS code [noparse][[/noparse]in Nuts & Volts magazine] for a long time.
In the wake of 9/11, the war in Afghanistan, and recently the liberation of
Iraq, I think Americans have become more diligent as far as security issues. I
have forwarded suspicious/scary e-mails to the FBI, and even called the
Dallas office over a phone call I received from a person who wanted to control a
large (10 feet) flying plane with GPS to "drop humanitarian aid." My problem
was that the "aid" packages in his plan were about the size of soda bottles. My
guts told me that one couldn't put enough aid in package that size to help
one person, but one could put enough poison in it to kill thousands....
We at Parallax hope that anyone using our products -- and even those of our
competitors -- is doing so only for peaceful purposes that benefit mankind.
-- Jon williams
-- Parallax
In a message dated 5/30/2003 12:13:06 PM Central Standard Time, kenneth_m_73149@y... writes:
> i have seen reference to people using gps stamp
> interfaces for model planes and now a rc truck
> please anyone working or developing anything of this
> nature becarefull gps is a usefull thing but in the
> wrong hand's it could be used for some bad thing's
> you don't have any way of knowing what someone want's
> with that information they might not have hit the
> towers in nyc if they didn't have that gps unit
[noparse][[/noparse]Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Dear Kenneth,
Just a personal view point on your comments to the group. I think you
should treat YOUR comments with a little bit of care as a lot of us make a
living with GPS. The work that has been published on the web with the STAMP
and GPS is nothing compared to some of the Garmin's,Trimble's, NAVSYS,
Magellian, etc companies work and development, not to say the work with the
STAMP is not great. So, I say, seen th4ese comments before on the e-group
and should be kept on a lighter note.
mike me
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From: "kenneth magers" <kenneth_m_73149@y...>
To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 1:10 PM
Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] gps
> i have seen reference to people using gps stamp
> interfaces for model planes and now a rc truck
> please anyone working or developing anything of this
> nature becarefull gps is a usefull thing but in the
> wrong hand's it could be used for some bad thing's
> you don't have any way of knowing what someone want's
> with that information they might not have hit the
> towers in nyc if they didn't have that gps unit
>
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negative, dude!
mike m
Original Message
From: <plasmastamp@a...>
To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 2:12 PM
Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] gps
> Hi,
> Most commercial airliners do not use GPS. The FAA has not universally
> approved it. It is used on smaller private planes and jets. The US
Military has the
> option to degrade the GPS System or shut it off whenever it wants to. It
is
> their system and we just get to borrow it. If they turned it off for a
security
> issue, what would happen to all the planes in the air flying in the soup
> (Clouds)? Not reliable enough so they use their own NAV systems.
> The airliners use a very expensive Inertial Guidance System. It uses Ring
> Lasers and all sorts of precision junk to keep track of where they are and
where
> they want to go.
>
> The Hijackers just input the coordinates of the targets and Viola the
plane
> flew there on auto pilot. Im sure they hand flew the planes when they had
a
> visual on the targets.
>
> The newspapers should be more careful about whipping up this type of
> hysteria.
> Remember the job of the News Industry is to sell advertising. They don't
make
> any money reporting news. Good news docent sell.
>
> With no GPS they would read maps...so lets ban maps..then they would stop
to
> ask directions.....so lets make it illegal to give
dirrections...etc...etc..
>
> Sorry for the tirade but this kind of thinking (Not yours Kenneth) is as
much
> the problem as the terrorists are.
>
> Nuff said.
> Alan Bradford
> Plasma Technologies
>
>
> [noparse][[/noparse]Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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...and they can (and do) jam GPS receivers around some sensitive locations
in the US to prevent private planes and unmanned aircraft from being used as
weapons.
Original Message
> Most commercial airliners do not use GPS. The FAA has not universally
> approved it. It is used on smaller private planes and jets. The US
Military has the
> option to degrade the GPS System or shut it off whenever it wants to. It
is
> their system and we just get to borrow it. If they turned it off for a
security
> issue, what would happen to all the planes in the air flying in the soup
> (Clouds)? Not reliable enough so they use their own NAV systems.
> The airliners use a very expensive Inertial Guidance System. It uses Ring
> Lasers and all sorts of precision junk to keep track of where they are and
where
> they want to go.
>
> The Hijackers just input the coordinates of the targets and Viola the
plane
> flew there on auto pilot. Im sure they hand flew the planes when they had
a
> visual on the targets.
>
> The newspapers should be more careful about whipping up this type of
> hysteria.
> Remember the job of the News Industry is to sell advertising. They don't
make
> any money reporting news. Good news docent sell.
>
> With no GPS they would read maps...so lets ban maps..then they would stop
to
> ask directions.....so lets make it illegal to give
dirrections...etc...etc..
>
> Sorry for the tirade but this kind of thinking (Not yours Kenneth) is as
much
> the problem as the terrorists are.
Comments
Original Message
> i have seen reference to people using gps stamp
> interfaces for model planes and now a rc truck
> please anyone working or developing anything of this
> nature becarefull gps is a usefull thing but in the
> wrong hand's it could be used for some bad thing's
> you don't have any way of knowing what someone want's
> with that information they might not have hit the
> towers in nyc if they didn't have that gps unit
Most commercial airliners do not use GPS. The FAA has not universally
approved it. It is used on smaller private planes and jets. The US Military has
the
option to degrade the GPS System or shut it off whenever it wants to. It is
their system and we just get to borrow it. If they turned it off for a security
issue, what would happen to all the planes in the air flying in the soup
(Clouds)? Not reliable enough so they use their own NAV systems.
The airliners use a very expensive Inertial Guidance System. It uses Ring
Lasers and all sorts of precision junk to keep track of where they are and where
they want to go.
The Hijackers just input the coordinates of the targets and Viola the plane
flew there on auto pilot. Im sure they hand flew the planes when they had a
visual on the targets.
The newspapers should be more careful about whipping up this type of
hysteria.
Remember the job of the News Industry is to sell advertising. They don't make
any money reporting news. Good news docent sell.
With no GPS they would read maps...so lets ban maps..then they would stop to
ask directions.....so lets make it illegal to give dirrections...etc...etc..
Sorry for the tirade but this kind of thinking (Not yours Kenneth) is as much
the problem as the terrorists are.
Nuff said.
Alan Bradford
Plasma Technologies
[noparse][[/noparse]Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
about gps interfacing used to guide anything rc toy
robot whatever would be a goldmine for for people
intent on doing harm to others that's all.
--- plasmastamp@a... wrote:
> Hi,
> Most commercial airliners do not use GPS. The FAA
> has not universally
> approved it. It is used on smaller private planes
> and jets. The US Military has the
> option to degrade the GPS System or shut it off
> whenever it wants to. It is
> their system and we just get to borrow it. If they
> turned it off for a security
> issue, what would happen to all the planes in the
> air flying in the soup
> (Clouds)? Not reliable enough so they use their own
> NAV systems.
> The airliners use a very expensive Inertial Guidance
> System. It uses Ring
> Lasers and all sorts of precision junk to keep track
> of where they are and where
> they want to go.
>
> The Hijackers just input the coordinates of the
> targets and Viola the plane
> flew there on auto pilot. Im sure they hand flew the
> planes when they had a
> visual on the targets.
>
> The newspapers should be more careful about whipping
> up this type of
> hysteria.
> Remember the job of the News Industry is to sell
> advertising. They don't make
> any money reporting news. Good news docent sell.
>
> With no GPS they would read maps...so lets ban
> maps..then they would stop to
> ask directions.....so lets make it illegal to give
> dirrections...etc...etc..
>
> Sorry for the tirade but this kind of thinking (Not
> yours Kenneth) is as much
> the problem as the terrorists are.
>
> Nuff said.
> Alan Bradford
> Plasma Technologies
>
>
> [noparse][[/noparse]Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>
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Sorry for the outburst, but it was building up and just slipped out. Ill save
it for another forum.
Unfortunately I don't know much about RC servos ant stuff.
Good Luck,
Alan Bradford
Plasma Technologies
In a message dated 5/30/03 2:29:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
kenneth_m_73149@y... writes:
> understood the point i was making is any information
> about gps interfacing used to guide anything rc toy
> robot whatever would be a goldmine for for people
> intent on doing harm to others that's all.
>
[noparse][[/noparse]Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
most part, who any of these people are, or how they make use of any of the
info disseminated on this forum. You're fighting a losing battle.
Gene
Stress is when you wake up screaming and you realize you haven't gone to
sleep yet.
Original Message
From: kenneth magers [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=0mEWX6Wl0oh6b4Yuigh6WSDFHZPuONqdUCrAKLbiOYbkHXzu-E9PGCuomWdJTUyaVALRywbtG9Mr7RAdWIed_KM]kenneth_m_73149@y...[/url
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 1:28 PM
To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] gps
understood the point i was making is any information
about gps interfacing used to guide anything rc toy
robot whatever would be a goldmine for for people
intent on doing harm to others that's all.
--- plasmastamp@a... wrote:
> Hi,
> Most commercial airliners do not use GPS. The FAA
> has not universally
> approved it. It is used on smaller private planes
> and jets. The US Military has the
> option to degrade the GPS System or shut it off
> whenever it wants to. It is
> their system and we just get to borrow it. If they
> turned it off for a security
> issue, what would happen to all the planes in the
> air flying in the soup
> (Clouds)? Not reliable enough so they use their own
> NAV systems.
> The airliners use a very expensive Inertial Guidance
> System. It uses Ring
> Lasers and all sorts of precision junk to keep track
> of where they are and where
> they want to go.
>
> The Hijackers just input the coordinates of the
> targets and Viola the plane
> flew there on auto pilot. Im sure they hand flew the
> planes when they had a
> visual on the targets.
>
> The newspapers should be more careful about whipping
> up this type of
> hysteria.
> Remember the job of the News Industry is to sell
> advertising. They don't make
> any money reporting news. Good news docent sell.
>
> With no GPS they would read maps...so lets ban
> maps..then they would stop to
> ask directions.....so lets make it illegal to give
> dirrections...etc...etc..
>
> Sorry for the tirade but this kind of thinking (Not
> yours Kenneth) is as much
> the problem as the terrorists are.
>
> Nuff said.
> Alan Bradford
> Plasma Technologies
>
>
> [noparse][[/noparse]Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>
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To All - Let's end the "gps" line of discussion on that note.
Erik Wood
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Original Message
From: Gene Bonin [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=VIbYL4uO6rLLyE6Pv5MbGMWnfKwj4Ve4R2Ebq4p2_S8cij_3Cpm-gc4i1tdYDSA7xOuqxJFQtQU]tabasco@i...[/url
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 11:44 AM
To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] gps
Sorry, you might as well shut down this entire list. We don't know, for
the most part, who any of these people are, or how they make use of any
of the info disseminated on this forum. You're fighting a losing battle.
Gene
Stress is when you wake up screaming and you realize you haven't gone to
sleep yet.
Original Message
From: kenneth magers [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=AlLIx9KEIH_FrATc7dQ7mjoqxCRnvZvjPuKQxJx_vbEk_2rCwCGIPxE2GCtbhIkFb01QCwmplGv-Qenzek469jGR]kenneth_m_73149@y...[/url
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 1:28 PM
To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] gps
understood the point i was making is any information
about gps interfacing used to guide anything rc toy
robot whatever would be a goldmine for for people
intent on doing harm to others that's all.
--- plasmastamp@a... wrote:
> Hi,
> Most commercial airliners do not use GPS. The FAA
> has not universally
> approved it. It is used on smaller private planes
> and jets. The US Military has the
> option to degrade the GPS System or shut it off
> whenever it wants to. It is
> their system and we just get to borrow it. If they
> turned it off for a security
> issue, what would happen to all the planes in the
> air flying in the soup
> (Clouds)? Not reliable enough so they use their own
> NAV systems.
> The airliners use a very expensive Inertial Guidance
> System. It uses Ring
> Lasers and all sorts of precision junk to keep track
> of where they are and where
> they want to go.
>
> The Hijackers just input the coordinates of the
> targets and Viola the plane
> flew there on auto pilot. Im sure they hand flew the
> planes when they had a
> visual on the targets.
>
> The newspapers should be more careful about whipping
> up this type of
> hysteria.
> Remember the job of the News Industry is to sell
> advertising. They don't make
> any money reporting news. Good news docent sell.
>
> With no GPS they would read maps...so lets ban
> maps..then they would stop to
> ask directions.....so lets make it illegal to give
> dirrections...etc...etc..
>
> Sorry for the tirade but this kind of thinking (Not
> yours Kenneth) is as much
> the problem as the terrorists are.
>
> Nuff said.
> Alan Bradford
> Plasma Technologies
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abuse@p....
"How do I control a model rocket with GPS and a BASIC Stamp?] caused me to
delay publishing our GPS code [noparse][[/noparse]in Nuts & Volts magazine] for a long time.
In the wake of 9/11, the war in Afghanistan, and recently the liberation of
Iraq, I think Americans have become more diligent as far as security issues. I
have forwarded suspicious/scary e-mails to the FBI, and even called the
Dallas office over a phone call I received from a person who wanted to control a
large (10 feet) flying plane with GPS to "drop humanitarian aid." My problem
was that the "aid" packages in his plan were about the size of soda bottles. My
guts told me that one couldn't put enough aid in package that size to help
one person, but one could put enough poison in it to kill thousands....
We at Parallax hope that anyone using our products -- and even those of our
competitors -- is doing so only for peaceful purposes that benefit mankind.
-- Jon williams
-- Parallax
In a message dated 5/30/2003 12:13:06 PM Central Standard Time,
kenneth_m_73149@y... writes:
> i have seen reference to people using gps stamp
> interfaces for model planes and now a rc truck
> please anyone working or developing anything of this
> nature becarefull gps is a usefull thing but in the
> wrong hand's it could be used for some bad thing's
> you don't have any way of knowing what someone want's
> with that information they might not have hit the
> towers in nyc if they didn't have that gps unit
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Just a personal view point on your comments to the group. I think you
should treat YOUR comments with a little bit of care as a lot of us make a
living with GPS. The work that has been published on the web with the STAMP
and GPS is nothing compared to some of the Garmin's,Trimble's, NAVSYS,
Magellian, etc companies work and development, not to say the work with the
STAMP is not great. So, I say, seen th4ese comments before on the e-group
and should be kept on a lighter note.
mike me
Original Message
From: "kenneth magers" <kenneth_m_73149@y...>
To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 1:10 PM
Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] gps
> i have seen reference to people using gps stamp
> interfaces for model planes and now a rc truck
> please anyone working or developing anything of this
> nature becarefull gps is a usefull thing but in the
> wrong hand's it could be used for some bad thing's
> you don't have any way of knowing what someone want's
> with that information they might not have hit the
> towers in nyc if they didn't have that gps unit
>
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To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 2:12 PM
Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] gps
> Hi,
> Most commercial airliners do not use GPS. The FAA has not universally
> approved it. It is used on smaller private planes and jets. The US
Military has the
> option to degrade the GPS System or shut it off whenever it wants to. It
is
> their system and we just get to borrow it. If they turned it off for a
security
> issue, what would happen to all the planes in the air flying in the soup
> (Clouds)? Not reliable enough so they use their own NAV systems.
> The airliners use a very expensive Inertial Guidance System. It uses Ring
> Lasers and all sorts of precision junk to keep track of where they are and
where
> they want to go.
>
> The Hijackers just input the coordinates of the targets and Viola the
plane
> flew there on auto pilot. Im sure they hand flew the planes when they had
a
> visual on the targets.
>
> The newspapers should be more careful about whipping up this type of
> hysteria.
> Remember the job of the News Industry is to sell advertising. They don't
make
> any money reporting news. Good news docent sell.
>
> With no GPS they would read maps...so lets ban maps..then they would stop
to
> ask directions.....so lets make it illegal to give
dirrections...etc...etc..
>
> Sorry for the tirade but this kind of thinking (Not yours Kenneth) is as
much
> the problem as the terrorists are.
>
> Nuff said.
> Alan Bradford
> Plasma Technologies
>
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in the US to prevent private planes and unmanned aircraft from being used as
weapons.
Original Message
> Most commercial airliners do not use GPS. The FAA has not universally
> approved it. It is used on smaller private planes and jets. The US
Military has the
> option to degrade the GPS System or shut it off whenever it wants to. It
is
> their system and we just get to borrow it. If they turned it off for a
security
> issue, what would happen to all the planes in the air flying in the soup
> (Clouds)? Not reliable enough so they use their own NAV systems.
> The airliners use a very expensive Inertial Guidance System. It uses Ring
> Lasers and all sorts of precision junk to keep track of where they are and
where
> they want to go.
>
> The Hijackers just input the coordinates of the targets and Viola the
plane
> flew there on auto pilot. Im sure they hand flew the planes when they had
a
> visual on the targets.
>
> The newspapers should be more careful about whipping up this type of
> hysteria.
> Remember the job of the News Industry is to sell advertising. They don't
make
> any money reporting news. Good news docent sell.
>
> With no GPS they would read maps...so lets ban maps..then they would stop
to
> ask directions.....so lets make it illegal to give
dirrections...etc...etc..
>
> Sorry for the tirade but this kind of thinking (Not yours Kenneth) is as
much
> the problem as the terrorists are.