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ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
edited 2001-07-09 20:32 in General Discussion
I have to assume it's just a coincidence, but since subscribing to the
Stamps e-group list, I'm getting more spam than ever before. Anybody else?
Parallax?
Thanks.
Steve

Steve Roberts: sroberts@s...

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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-04-24 17:31
    I have received no more spam than I did before, three to five a week. While
    on the subject of spam, the thing that really confuses me about spam on a
    mailing list is that someone will spam the list once leaving one piece of
    junk mail in everyone's inbox. Yet as soon as it is posted all of a sudden
    the list is bombarded by people complaining about this one email therefore
    filling up the list with ten or more emails complaining about how the spam
    is offensive and is cluttering up their mail.

    I have yet to see a keyboard that does not have a delete key. I have also
    never seen an email client that does not allow you to delete messages.
    These two features found on every computer and operating system that has an
    internet email system are a very effective means to get rid of the offending
    mail and never have to look at it again. I don't know if some people have
    not yet figured this out or if it is not documented well enough. Maybe
    these people's delete key does not work? Maybe they just like to rant and
    rave and complain about trivial things therefore adding to that which they
    are so vehemently complaining about. Do these people call customer service
    for every single piece of junk mail they receive at their postal address?

    Unfortunately, like postal junk mail, spam is a part of life on the
    internet. If you do not like spam then do not open up an email account.
    Its that simple. If you do not like someone's particular email that they
    posted on the list then please deal with them in private, do not feel the
    need to exert your frustrations on the list in effect spamming the list with
    your unsolicited comments.

    Additionally, some people find interesting things on the web they think
    others on the list might find interesting as well. They in turn post the
    URL for others to see. They are not making money off of this, they are just
    trying to share with the list, is that not what it is for? I would really
    like for this activity to not be discouraged as this is a very technically
    minded crowd who come across items in their searches that I myself have
    found interesting.

    Feel free to flame me all you want for my post, but please spare the list
    and email me to my email address.

    Original Message
    From: Stephen Roberts [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=L8L3geeD3qLiFGzU7I4lWbnS5YtJ7YRmaKt0o63g1nsQiGkMPdmTzYzEOB48wDNV0wdUdOtO_wiZAd_VFWvLkAq5zsQGMw]sroberts@s...[/url
    Sent: Monday, April 24, 2000 9:00 AM
    To: basicstamps@egroups.com
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] spam


    I have to assume it's just a coincidence, but since subscribing to the
    Stamps e-group list, I'm getting more spam than ever before. Anybody else?
    Parallax?
    Thanks.
    Steve

    Steve Roberts: sroberts@s...
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2000-04-25 10:30
    At 09:00 AM 4/24/00 -0700, Stephen Roberts promulgated:
    >I have to assume it's just a coincidence, but since subscribing to the
    >Stamps e-group list, I'm getting more spam than ever before. Anybody else?
    >Parallax?
    >Thanks.
    >Steve
    >
    Steve -

    I would concur. I also suspect that's why many have unsubscribed. Too bad,
    too.

    I just set up filters with Eudora, since so many of them have something in
    common <shrug>. Just downloaded 47 messages from my ISP. There were (say) 8
    pieces of spam. After looking at the headers, 6 of the 8 could be sent to
    my spam file with one filter, the others I manually moved.

    Generally I can find fifteen minutes or so to go through the 30 or 40 spams
    which collect during the week. I sift through the spam file - if there is
    anything worth reviewing sobeit. Otherwise it's SELECT ALL ==>> TRASH boom
    ! I can't
    even be bothered to deal with it on a daily basis.

    I just accept it as part of the "price" of using the Internet. No more or
    less than those stupid pieces of paper which used to fall out of "FREE"
    tech journals. At least
    now they come in a cello-wrapped packet. With those I can generally tell by
    looking at the front and back offerings either: 1) if it looks interesting,
    or 2) if I know where it came from. If not =>>>> TRASH - same as the
    Internet spam.

    Spam, for me, is universal. It extends from the unsolicted phone call at
    6:00 PM
    when you are sitting down to dinner, to the obtrustive billboards on the
    highway, and the various commercials on TV with suggestive sexual
    innuendos, on to the junk
    mail in the mail box (whether USPS or Internet), along with many other
    venues;
    I just don't have the time for any of it.

    OTOH, the direct mailers and advertizing companines get paid huge bucks by
    corporations and PACs, big and small, to keep up the practice. As much as
    I'm apolitical, I have tip my hat to even the thought of campaign spending
    limits. If there was exactly such a limiting practice with other spam, we,
    the consumers, MIGHT have a chance.

    All spam should die a natural death - same as this thread <smile>.
    'Til then, TRASH it all ! If we could ONLY re-cycle it and harness the
    energy and dollars put into it - we'd all be rich !

    Just my unsolicited spam-like 2 cents <g>, YMMV as always.

    Bruce
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-07-08 04:46
    Question:
    In the last few weeks we have receiving spam almost daily. Most have Yahoo
    addresses. Could it be a result of being on this list?

    TIA,
    Ray McArthur
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-07-08 05:01
    Home mortgage YES ! but lets stop attachments instead

    Ray McArthur wrote:
    >
    > Question:
    > In the last few weeks we have receiving spam almost daily. Most have Yahoo
    > addresses. Could it be a result of being on this list?
    >
    > TIA,
    > Ray McArthur
    >
    > To UNSUBSCRIBE, just send mail to:
    > basicstamps-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
    > from the same email address that you subscribed. Text in the Subject and Body
    of the message will be ignored.
    >
    >
    > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-07-08 05:06
    Ray -

    I suspect that the Yahoo addresses on the spam you
    have received are, like most spam from and reply-to
    addresses, faked.

    The spam is probably NOT from being on this list. I am
    one the list plus typically post at least once a week,
    but can not recall receiving ANY spam on my Yahoo
    account, which I use to access this list. I do receive
    "Yahoo Delivers" ads, but then I get sale ads in my
    Mail Boxes Etc. non-virtual mailbox too. This is much
    less than on certain other <cough hotmail cough> free
    email services, on which I can count on hundreds of
    spams per month.

    Bob Pence



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  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-07-08 12:16
    Email addresses can be scammed from Yachoo! depending on whether or not the
    list owner allows the member list to be public. All the spammer has to do is
    join the list, scam the list of members, then split.

    If you want to find out more about spam, check out www.spamcop.net

    Original Message

    > I suspect that the Yahoo addresses on the spam you
    > have received are, like most spam from and reply-to
    > addresses, faked.
    >
    > The spam is probably NOT from being on this list. I am
    > one the list plus typically post at least once a week,
    > but can not recall receiving ANY spam on my Yahoo
    > account, which I use to access this list. I do receive
    > "Yahoo Delivers" ads, but then I get sale ads in my
    > Mail Boxes Etc. non-virtual mailbox too. This is much
    > less than on certain other <cough hotmail cough> free
    > email services, on which I can count on hundreds of
    > spams per month.
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-07-08 22:45
    At 07:16 07/08/01, Rodent wrote:

    >Email addresses can be scammed from Yachoo! depending on whether or not the
    >list owner allows the member list to be public. All the spammer has to do is
    >join the list, scam the list of members, then split.

    Quite true, but the full membership list for BasicStamps isn't available to
    the members of the list. The spammer would have to harvest addresses from
    mail sent to the list. That's a very inefficient approach. We have been
    spammed by a well intentioned seller of BasicStamp (or related) materials
    in the past, over a year ago, maybe two. He learned his lesson *VERY* well.

    Most spammers harvest their addresses from article headers on Usenet. Some
    buy CDs full of addresses harvested from this source. If you post to the
    Usenet newsgroups and use your real address in the From: field, you will
    have serious spam very quickly.


    Jim H
  • ArchiverArchiver Posts: 46,084
    edited 2001-07-09 20:32
    When I post in Usenet, I use an alias mailbox with built-in spam filters, so
    no spam from there.


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