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    From: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=eI4P1bzSk2QetqUzjQ4Fb8V4edo5Fj5Z6Dc4kzd6fZT8GMHetmdn8oN9vBvZ8bLTLfWwrfGBWHQfRzxoydBnkcU]basicstamps@yahoogroups.com[/url
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    There are 25 messages in this issue.

    Topics in this digest:

    1. Unsubscribe
    From: Alain CHAUTAR <achautar@c...>
    2. Re: beam break detector
    From: "Russ Bassani" <RussBassani@a...>
    3. Re: Re: 5VDC Reed Relay
    From: david cousins <cuz_hsv@y...>
    4. Re: Re: 5VDC Reed Relay
    From: Rodent <daweasel@s...>
    5. Re: 5VDC Reed Relay
    From: iceninevt@y...
    6. BSI Problems
    From: theryan@t...
    7. Re: Circuit board transfer film
    From: "Sean T. Lamont .lost." <lamont@a...>
    8. Re: Finding Solid State Relays
    From: "Sean T. Lamont .lost." <lamont@a...>
    9. happy birthday code
    From: "Nicolas Fournel" <Nicolas.Fournel@f...>
    10. Re: 2n2222 transistor?
    From: "Sean T. Lamont .lost." <lamont@a...>
    11. 6502 Help
    From: "Tim Whitmore" <timproject82@h...>
    12. Re: happy birthday code
    From: PicProgrammer@a...
    13. Re: 5VDC Reed Relay
    From: theryan@t...
    14. Re: Re: 5VDC Reed Relay
    From: "Robert Staph" <rstaph@a...>
    15. Very Urgent : Require Freelance programmers
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    16. Re: Very Urgent : Require Freelance programmers
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    17. RE: Very Urgent : Require Freelance programmers
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    18. Re: Very Urgent : Require Freelance programmers
    From: Rodent <daweasel@s...>
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    22. Re: Very Urgent : Require Freelance programmers
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    23. Re: BS2 for Eagle PCB editor
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    Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:47:37 +0200
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    Message: 2
    Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 07:13:55 -0400
    From: "Russ Bassani" <RussBassani@a...>
    Subject: Re: beam break detector

    Hi Michael,
    What I meant was to use the I/R beams (4) as you described, but to
    simply connect their outputs in parallel with each other, each through a
    diode, so that if any of them were to register a dog "hit", that beam sensor
    would pull down your signal line through its diode, to stop your counter.
    The diodes would provide some isolation between the I/R sensors, since
    we don't know the sensor's output configuration, and to simply connect all
    four of them together might cause problems, the diodes are a way to do
    it more safely.
    Russ


    Original Message
    From: Michael Clark <mdc@i...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 7:36 PM
    Subject: RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] beam break detector


    | Russ - thanks for your reply. I'm not certain that I understand exactly
    | what you are describing. Should I 1) connect all outputs to a single
    diode,
    | or 2) connect each output to a different diode, with diode outputs tied
    | together?
    |
    |
    Original Message
    | From: Russ Bassani [noparse]/noparse]mailto:[url=http://forums.parallaxinc.com/group/basicstamps/post?postID=HC7lDOrSqTJBFsRgXG3N7VGwPfzV4kuUbSDxHc5QU33kPUDQOXE6K3i7AU80S8nM8mRc8mxjuksAM8w]RussBassani@a...[/url
    | Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 5:40 PM
    | To: basicstamps@yahoogroups.com
    | Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] beam break detector
    |
    |
    | Hi Michael,
    |
    | You might simply connect each of the four led/detector pairs through
    | a silicon diode, thus configuring a four input "or" that way. No TITLE
    chip
    | needed. Whenever any of the four register a "Hit" you'll get a signal,
    | either hi or lo, depending upon your circuit configuration. You can poll
    | this this point in a looping routing with the stamp and branch to a
    | subroutine to service this, such as a timer or whatever you like.
    | Hope this helps,
    | Russ
    |
    |
    |
    |
    Original Message
    | From: Michael Clark <mdc@i...>
    | To: Basicstamps List <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    | Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 8:43 AM
    | Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] beam break detector
    |
    |
    | | Hi List:
    | |
    | | This is my first posting to the list. I am an occasional electronics
    | | hobbyist (and Ham - AA4YH) from Cary, North Carolina. I bought a BS-1 a
    | few
    | | years ago and fooled around with it, making some LEDs blink, etc.
    | |
    | | I now have a real project that I'm trying to design. The target
    | | microcontroller is still undetermined, but I'm leaning toward the OOPIC
    | (I'm
    | | a computer scientist by profession, and like the programming paradigm of
    | the
    | | OOPIC).
    | |
    | | Here's what I'd like the advice of the list on: I am designing a race
    | timer
    | | for timing flyball races. Flyball is a relay race for dogs - they have
    to
    | | jump four hurdles, and press the pedal of a spring-loaded box, which
    | | releases a tennis ball, then return with the tennis ball, across the
    four
    | | hurdles; repeat with next dog.
    | |
    | | I want to time the start/stop with a beam break detector. Since the
    dogs
    | | that run these races can be any size, my plan is to use a total of four
    | | beam-break detectors in the same vertical plane at four or six inch
    | vertical
    | | spacing. I'm thinking infrared LEDs and phototransistors. What I'd
    ideally
    | | like to do is to use only one I/O line to detect whether any of the four
    | | beams have been broken. I don't need to know which one was broken, only
    | that
    | | one of them was broken.
    | |
    | | I suppose I could build something like a four-input OR circuit, but I'm
    | | wondering if there isn't some way to create a serial chain of these
    | | detectors, and just detect a high-to-low (or low-to-high) transition if
    | any
    | | beam is broken.
    | |
    | | Does this make sense? Any thoughts? Any thoughts on my choice of
    | | microcontroller or LED/phototransistor combination?
    | |
    | | Thanks folks. This is a great list!
    | |
    | | Michael Clark
    | |
    | |
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    Message: 3
    Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 07:37:22 -0700 (PDT)
    From: david cousins <cuz_hsv@y...>
    Subject: Re: Re: 5VDC Reed Relay

    As many of you said, my diodes do have part numbers on them, and I did save
    the
    tag in the bottom of my parts bin. They are indeed the 1N914's.
    Thanks to everyone for their inputs and teaching. Your responses have
    provided me with numerous little learning tasks to cement these studies.

    I also searched on the optoisolators and started learning about them. Of
    course I immediately have questions. Hoping that I haven't already worn out
    my
    welcome, I will ask it.

    Does the optoisolator have an internal LED and Phototransisoter inside the
    chip?
    The switching is done with only light? Since no electricity is passed
    between
    the circuits, they are isolated? If so, very cool.
    Thanks again.
    Dave

    --- Rodent <daweasel@s...> wrote:
    > *Usually* the glass ones are 1N914's -- a low-current general-purpose
    diode.
    > Should work fine for a *small* relay like a reed relay or one of the DIP
    > relays. Yes, the banded end goes toward +5 VDC.
    >
    >
    Original Message
    >
    > > I bought the same pack of diodes I think, small 2mm glass encapsulated
    > > kind? I've used them with 5vdc relays in 2 different projects, one is
    > > nearing 2 years run time without a problem. I've always put the black
    > band
    > > toward the +5v (if I remember correctly)
    >
    > > > Are you saying that I shouldn't use these generic diodes? That I need
    a
    > > > special diode for the reed relay protection? I don't think I phrased
    my
    > > > previous question correctly.
    >
    >

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    Message: 4
    Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:09:54 -0500
    From: Rodent <daweasel@s...>
    Subject: Re: Re: 5VDC Reed Relay

    Yup. There is no electrical connection between the input and output on the
    opto-isolator. These are typically used to isolate a low-voltage circuit
    from a high-voltage circuit. We used them to drive 110 VAC relays with
    logic-level signals.

    You'll still probably have to use a transistor to drive the relay -- most
    opto-isolators are very low current.

    Original Message


    > As many of you said, my diodes do have part numbers on them, and I did
    save the
    > tag in the bottom of my parts bin. They are indeed the 1N914's.
    > Thanks to everyone for their inputs and teaching. Your responses have
    > provided me with numerous little learning tasks to cement these studies.
    >
    > I also searched on the optoisolators and started learning about them. Of
    > course I immediately have questions. Hoping that I haven't already worn
    out my
    > welcome, I will ask it.
    >
    > Does the optoisolator have an internal LED and Phototransisoter inside the
    > chip?
    > The switching is done with only light? Since no electricity is passed
    between
    > the circuits, they are isolated? If so, very cool.





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    Message: 5
    Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:32:37 -0000
    From: iceninevt@y...
    Subject: Re: 5VDC Reed Relay

    Yep

    The switching is done only with light. Inside the optoisolator
    (photocoupler) is a LED and either a photodiode or phototransistor.

    Opto's come in a ton of flavors...

    Some are used as triac drivers. What this means is that your stamp
    could switch an AC load (like your coffee maker or lights) with just
    a small handful of parts, and without using a relay. Sometimes the
    relay is a good choice, but is is a mechanical device, it is slow,
    noisy, and being a mechanical device has a much shorter life than a
    solid state switch (like a triac)

    Opto's do many, many other things.

    if these things interest you I would recommend you get a trial copy
    of Nuts and Volts magazine (www.nutsvolts.com) and consider
    subscribing.

    I am a new "stamper", I got my BS2 three weeks ago. I have found NV
    to be very stamp-friendly. A good source for electronics info, and
    for stamp hints. I am 44 years old and my electronics education
    stopped about 20 years ago, until three weeks ago, when I got my BS2.

    It is never to late to learn. Good Luck

    Regards

    Rich
    http://geocities.com/rbc1956

    --- In basicstamps@y..., david cousins <cuz_hsv@y...> wrote:
    > As many of you said, my diodes do have part numbers on them, and I
    did save the
    > tag in the bottom of my parts bin. They are indeed the 1N914's.
    > Thanks to everyone for their inputs and teaching. Your responses
    have
    > provided me with numerous little learning tasks to cement these
    studies.
    >
    > I also searched on the optoisolators and started learning about
    them. Of
    > course I immediately have questions. Hoping that I haven't already
    worn out my
    > welcome, I will ask it.
    >
    > Does the optoisolator have an internal LED and Phototransisoter
    inside the
    > chip?
    > The switching is done with only light? Since no electricity is
    passed between
    > the circuits, they are isolated? If so, very cool.
    > Thanks again.
    > Dave
    >
    > --- Rodent <daweasel@s...> wrote:
    > > *Usually* the glass ones are 1N914's -- a low-current general-
    purpose diode.
    > > Should work fine for a *small* relay like a reed relay or one of
    the DIP
    > > relays. Yes, the banded end goes toward +5 VDC.
    > >
    > >
    Original Message
    > >
    > > > I bought the same pack of diodes I think, small 2mm glass
    encapsulated
    > > > kind? I've used them with 5vdc relays in 2 different projects,
    one is
    > > > nearing 2 years run time without a problem. I've always put
    the black
    > > band
    > > > toward the +5v (if I remember correctly)
    > >
    > > > > Are you saying that I shouldn't use these generic diodes?
    That I need a
    > > > > special diode for the reed relay protection? I don't think I
    phrased my
    > > > > previous question correctly.
    > >
    > >
    >
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    Message: 6
    Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:35:24 -0000
    From: theryan@t...
    Subject: BSI Problems

    I recently purchased a BSI for a project I'm working on. I plugged
    it into my comp and powered it up to pin 1 with a 9v battery. Every
    time I tried to connect I got an error hardware not found error. I
    called parallax and it seemd my comp/parallel port were messed up. I
    made sure everything was right and it still didn't work. After
    calling them again they told me to check the voltage on the pins.
    Pins 2-5 show about 9v. The service guy told me the regulator was
    broken or something like that and that I had caused the dmage. Since
    the specs say pin 1 can handle 4.5-12v I don't think I did anything.
    Has anyone heard about BSIs that have arived DOA(dead on arrival)?
    Does anyone know how I can fix this problem(other than buying a new
    chip)? Thanks for any help.
    -Ryan



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    Message: 7
    Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:15:26 -0700 (PDT)
    From: "Sean T. Lamont .lost." <lamont@a...>
    Subject: Re: Circuit board transfer film


    It's more like plastic. Toner itself is basically plastic which fuses onto
    paper and/or copper board when it's a few hundred degrees.

    On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, Leroy Hall, Senior wrote:

    > This is not quite how I do it. I use plain paper instead of
    > transparencies. I then use an clothes iron to transfer the pattern to
    > the board. A lot cheaper and when soaked in water, readily leaves the
    > film on the copper. Just a little agitation and the paper just rolls
    > off. The iron must raise the temperature of the ink up to the point it
    > was when it was transferred to the paper in the printing process.
    > HOT!! Works great! Cheap and will do lines down to 0.010 easily.
    >
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    >
    > Leroy
    >
    > fernando hood wrote:
    > >
    > > I came in a bit late on the pcb manufacturing.
    > >
    > > I just need a basic understading of the process.
    > >
    > > Is this the process?
    > >
    > > 1) Print copy of the layout on transparencies.
    > >
    > > 2) Clean the board
    > >
    > > 3) Press the transpareny onto the board.
    > >
    > > 4) Etch.
    > >
    > > Is this correct?
    > >
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    Message: 8
    Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:38:54 -0700 (PDT)
    From: "Sean T. Lamont .lost." <lamont@a...>
    Subject: Re: Finding Solid State Relays


    Have you considered triacs? I ended up using something like a solid state
    relay in an 8-pin dip package. I would look at the voltage you want to
    switch and look for a triac or other device which will do it.

    FYI, I ended up using digikey's PVT422ND dual relay package to use a stamp
    to switch a 320V Peak-Peak AC signal at about 6khz, which I used for an
    electroluminescent wire prjoect.

    On Sun, 15 Apr 2001 sjohns10@h... wrote:

    > Where can I find cheap (under $3.00 US each) relays to hook up to my
    > basic stamp? I need solid state relays because the electromechanical
    > ones make too much noise. They will be going on and off pretty fast
    > so they have to have fast reaction times, also. Thanks very much.
    >
    >
    >
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    Sean T. Lamont, CTO / Chief NetNerd, Abstract Software, Inc. (ServNet)
    Seattle - Bellingham - Vancouver - Portland - Everett - Tacoma - Bremerton
    email: lamont@a... WWW: http://www.serv.net
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    Message: 9
    Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:39:50 -0700
    From: "Nicolas Fournel" <Nicolas.Fournel@f...>
    Subject: happy birthday code

    Hi,

    Does anybody know where to find the code to play the happy birthday theme
    using freqout?

    Nicolas




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    Message: 10
    Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:43:19 -0700 (PDT)
    From: "Sean T. Lamont .lost." <lamont@a...>
    Subject: Re: 2n2222 transistor?


    Well, I have a couple. [noparse]:)[/noparse] But www.findchips.com lists at least a half
    dozen matches.

    On Sun, 15 Apr 2001 mcmgamer@n... wrote:

    > Can someone please tell me where I can purchase the 2N2222
    > transistor. I would like to get it through Radio Shack but they
    > don't seem to have it on their web page. Is there an equivalent
    > transistor that I can buy through them? Thank You
    >
    > Mike
    >
    >
    >
    >
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    Seattle - Bellingham - Vancouver - Portland - Everett - Tacoma - Bremerton
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    Message: 11
    Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 20:44:52 +0100
    From: "Tim Whitmore" <timproject82@h...>
    Subject: 6502 Help

    Sorry for the off-list topic, I hope someone here might be able to help.

    I am doing a comparison of the 3 Chip Plus and the Basic Stamp kit as two
    systems used to teach control techniques at schools. I was looking for some
    information on what the 3 Chips are, and what they do. I know there is the
    6502 processor and the 6522 (?) VIA interface chip (not sure exactly what
    this does), but do not know what the third chip is. If anyone can help,
    could you please contact me off-list. My e-mail is timproject82@h...

    Thanks in advance for any help you can give

    Tim Whitmore


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    Message: 12
    Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:50:23 EDT
    From: PicProgrammer@a...
    Subject: Re: happy birthday code

    http://www.laffnow.com/humor/touch_to.htm

    This is not exactly what you were asking for, but it might get
    you started in the right direction. Simply use the DTMFOUT
    command instead of FREQOUT.

    Steve

    In a message dated 4/17/01 3:41:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
    Nicolas.Fournel@f... writes:


    > Does anybody know where to find the code to play the happy birthday theme
    >




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    Message: 13
    Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 20:11:53 -0000
    From: theryan@t...
    Subject: Re: 5VDC Reed Relay

    Personally I like optos, I've used them alot in robot applications.
    They really do protect a lot of sensitive electronics from high current
    lines going to a motor. They also cut out any knid of noise that
    motors will generate. Plus optical anything gives it a very high tech
    ambience.
    -Ryan




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    Message: 14
    Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:40:38 -0400
    From: "Robert Staph" <rstaph@a...>
    Subject: Re: Re: 5VDC Reed Relay

    I'm hearing alot about opto-isolators. Can anyone recommend a few part
    numbers that work well with stamps? I'm looking for smaller footprint
    types, I've seen them in an 6 or 8 pin dip before. I'd be interested in
    ones that could do 12vdc at around 1A, and ones that do 120vac at 1A.

    Also simplicity of design is good too. If I don't need a farm of external
    components, I'd love to start using them. Just never had any good leads on
    ones that would match up well with stamps.

    Robert Staph, W3RCS
    The Center for Advanced Technologies
    Computer Networking Consultant (CNC-DPT)


    Original Message
    From: <theryan@t...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 4:11 PM
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: 5VDC Reed Relay


    > Personally I like optos, I've used them alot in robot applications.
    > They really do protect a lot of sensitive electronics from high current
    > lines going to a motor. They also cut out any knid of noise that
    > motors will generate. Plus optical anything gives it a very high tech
    > ambience.
    > -Ryan
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
    >
    >
    >



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    Message: 15
    Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:20:28 -0400
    From: Innovative International Institute
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    Subject: Very Urgent : Require Freelance programmers

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    YOU MUST FULFILL OUR REQUIREMENTS AND CRITERIA....

    It is three stage process to get in...

    FIRST : You need to send your detailed Resume as detailed below
    SECOND : If you are selected
    --- you will be asked to enter into a specific agreement
    --- you need to deposit some amounts
    and some other criteria we will ask you to fulfill.
    THIRD : As soon as you fulfill our crietria we will start to send you the
    work
    according to our agreement.

    If you are interested follow the instructions below...

    FIRST STEP

    Send your detailed resume in TEXT FORMAT ONLY TO E-mail
    innovativeinstitute2@o...?subject=Interested_A and must include
    following DATA... [noparse][[/noparse]DO NOT REPLY THIS E-MAIL]

    START
    Name
    Address (in detail)
    Birth Date
    Educational Qualifications
    Professional Qualifications
    Project Involvement
    Language Conversion Skill Set Detail.
    e.g.
    I can Convert....

    C To Java
    C++ To Java
    BASICA To C
    FoxPro To XML

    etc...

    Time you spare for us : ______ hours per week
    You get this information from :
    END

    Note : IF YOU FILL THAT THIS IS NEEDFUL FOR ANY OF YOUR FRIEND, PLEASE SEND
    HIM/HER...


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    Message: 16
    Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:27:06 -0400
    From: "Beau Schwabe" <bschwabe@a...>
    Subject: Re: Very Urgent : Require Freelance programmers

    At 06:20 PM 4/17/01 -0400, you wrote:
    >Dear List Member
    >
    >We require FREELANCE PROGRAMMERS OF VARIOUS SKILL SETS...
    >
    >WORK AT HOME OPPORTUNITY -- ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD...

    (snip)

    >FIRST : You need to send your detailed Resume as detailed below
    >SECOND : If you are selected
    > --- you will be asked to enter into a specific agreement
    > --- you need to deposit some amounts
    > and some other criteria we will ask you to fulfill.
    >THIRD : As soon as you fulfill our crietria we will start to send you the
    >work
    >according to our agreement.

    (snip)

    This sounds very DANGEROUS! ... use !EXTREME! caution if anyone decides
    to do this and send money?!! <<-- That sounds VERY WRONG!! I wouldn't
    advise anyone to do this! Signing an agreement is one thing, An employer
    asking for money should send up red flags.




    Beau Schwabe IC Mask Designer
    National Semiconductor Network Products Division
    500 Pinnacle Court, Suite 525 Mail Stop GA1 Norcross, GA 30071










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    Message: 17
    Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 00:37:37 +0200
    From: "Miguel Puchol" <mpuchol@w...>
    Subject: RE: Very Urgent : Require Freelance programmers

    I can convert HOT AIR into MONEY....duh!!

    The part I really like is the ...you need to deposit some amounts...this is
    an innovative form of employment, please pay me money, do the work, then
    we'll see if I pay you!

    That's the way we could end ANY recession...

    Cheers all,

    Mike

    > FIRST : You need to send your detailed Resume as detailed below
    > SECOND : If you are selected
    > --- you will be asked to enter into a specific agreement
    > --- you need to deposit some amounts
    > and some other criteria we will ask you to fulfill.
    > THIRD : As soon as you fulfill our crietria we will start to send
    > you the work
    > according to our agreement.



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    Message: 18
    Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:39:16 -0500
    From: Rodent <daweasel@s...>
    Subject: Re: Very Urgent : Require Freelance programmers

    What a scam!

    They want to hire you, but you have to pay money?

    Check out the item below:


    Original Message

    -- snip --

    > SECOND : If you are selected
    > --- you will be asked to enter into a specific agreement
    > --- you need to deposit some amounts
    > and some other criteria we will ask you to fulfill.

    -- snip --




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    Message: 19
    Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:51:21 -0700 (PDT)
    From: Gene Buckle <geneb@d...>
    Subject: Re: Very Urgent : Require Freelance programmers

    It's just spam. I've already fired a copy off to abuse@yahoogroups.com
    about it.



    On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Beau Schwabe wrote:

    > At 06:20 PM 4/17/01 -0400, you wrote:
    > >Dear List Member
    > >
    > >We require FREELANCE PROGRAMMERS OF VARIOUS SKILL SETS...
    > >
    > >WORK AT HOME OPPORTUNITY -- ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD...
    >
    > (snip)
    >
    > >FIRST : You need to send your detailed Resume as detailed below
    > >SECOND : If you are selected
    > > --- you will be asked to enter into a specific agreement
    > > --- you need to deposit some amounts
    > > and some other criteria we will ask you to fulfill.
    > >THIRD : As soon as you fulfill our crietria we will start to send you the

    > >work
    > >according to our agreement.
    >
    > (snip)
    >
    > This sounds very DANGEROUS! ... use !EXTREME! caution if anyone decides
    > to do this and send money?!! <<-- That sounds VERY WRONG!! I wouldn't
    > advise anyone to do this! Signing an agreement is one thing, An employer
    > asking for money should send up red flags.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Beau Schwabe IC Mask Designer
    > National Semiconductor Network Products Division
    > 500 Pinnacle Court, Suite 525 Mail Stop GA1 Norcross, GA 30071
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
    >
    >
    >



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    Message: 20
    Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:09:32 -0500
    From: Rodent <daweasel@s...>
    Subject: Re: Very Urgent : Require Freelance programmers

    I tracked it to Opera Software, which is a legit organization. However, when
    I sent them a nasty note, it signed me up to download their products. Go
    figure.

    Original Message


    > It's just spam. I've already fired a copy off to abuse@yahoogroups.com
    > about it.

    > > >We require FREELANCE PROGRAMMERS OF VARIOUS SKILL SETS...




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    Message: 21
    Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:58:20 -0600
    From: Dwayne Reid <dwayner@p...>
    Subject: Re: Very Urgent : Require Freelance programmers

    At 06:27 PM 4/17/01 -0400, Beau Schwabe wrote:
    >At 06:20 PM 4/17/01 -0400, you wrote:
    > >Dear List Member
    > >
    > >We require FREELANCE PROGRAMMERS OF VARIOUS SKILL SETS...
    > >

    This is SPAM. If you subscribe to one of the spam reporting groups, please
    send that message (with complete headers) to them.

    If we all work at it, we can inconvenience those idiots by getting their
    ISP to kill their accounts.

    dwayne



    Dwayne Reid <dwayner@p...>
    Trinity Electronics Systems Ltd Edmonton, AB, CANADA
    (780) 489-3199 voice (780) 487-6397 fax

    Celebrating 17 years of Engineering Innovation (1984 - 2001)

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    Message: 22
    Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 20:26:33 -0400
    From: "Robert Staph" <rstaph@a...>
    Subject: Re: Very Urgent : Require Freelance programmers

    I work for a large ISP in my area, these "anti-spam" organizations are more
    of an inconvenience to ISP's like us then to spammers. They just move on to
    other ISPs. In the mean time, our paying customers have to deal with MONTHS
    of rejected and returned E-mails. We do everything in our power to keep
    people from abusing our services, boo hoo if they get a few pieces of spam
    through, we'll catch it and SELF-ENFORCE. Sorry, but we were burned by the
    "internet blackhole list" about a year ago, when we failed one of their
    little "tests" that their server runs (no actual spam ever went through our
    system, I've got all the logs to prove it).

    Thank god for firewalls, every IP address in the class B that we trace back
    to an anti-spam organization gets banned from SMTP and POP3 ports. Freaking
    BS that we should have to go to these lengths just to provide un-interupted
    service to our paying customers. Sorry for the very off topic post, but I
    just get angry when hard working sysadmins lose money over what amounts to a
    single click fix (delete). I doubt you get that upset when a piece of junk
    snail mail comes into your box.. Do you call the post office and complain?
    What do you do... throw it away....

    Rob


    Original Message
    From: "Dwayne Reid" <dwayner@p...>
    To: <basicstamps@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 7:58 PM
    Subject: Re: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Very Urgent : Require Freelance programmers


    > At 06:27 PM 4/17/01 -0400, Beau Schwabe wrote:
    > >At 06:20 PM 4/17/01 -0400, you wrote:
    > > >Dear List Member
    > > >
    > > >We require FREELANCE PROGRAMMERS OF VARIOUS SKILL SETS...
    > > >
    >
    > This is SPAM. If you subscribe to one of the spam reporting groups,
    please
    > send that message (with complete headers) to them.
    >
    > If we all work at it, we can inconvenience those idiots by getting their
    > ISP to kill their accounts.
    >
    > dwayne
    >
    >
    >
    > Dwayne Reid <dwayner@p...>
    > Trinity Electronics Systems Ltd Edmonton, AB, CANADA
    > (780) 489-3199 voice (780) 487-6397 fax
    >
    > Celebrating 17 years of Engineering Innovation (1984 - 2001)
    >
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    >



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    Message: 23
    Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:38:20 -0700 (PDT)
    From: "Sean T. Lamont .lost." <lamont@a...>
    Subject: Re: BS2 for Eagle PCB editor


    I used some of the standard chip libraries, it worked fine.

    On Tue, 17 Apr 2001 bs2web@y... wrote:

    > Hello all! Does anyone know if a BS2 library exists for the Eagle PCB
    > editor software? I was able to find one for the BasicX BX-24, but
    > nothing on the STAMP.
    >
    > Any suggestions or knowledgeable Eagle users?
    >
    > Thanks,
    > --Jeff Wallace
    > --www.High-TechGarage.com
    > --{ Why park your STAMP anywhere else? }--
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
    >
    >
    >

    Sean T. Lamont, CTO / Chief NetNerd, Abstract Software, Inc. (ServNet)
    Seattle - Bellingham - Vancouver - Portland - Everett - Tacoma - Bremerton
    email: lamont@a... WWW: http://www.serv.net
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    Message: 24
    Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:45:47 -0500
    From: "Nagi Babu" <nags@c...>
    Subject: RE: Very Urgent : Require Freelance programmers

    Who the heck are these "Innovative Internation Institure" guys?!! I've
    been in the software consulting for over 14 yrs. I used to consult for
    Microsoft, EPRI, The Big 3, etc. From my past experience I've seen many
    people get tangled into stuff like these deals. I'd like to restate (as
    somebody already had in this conversation thread), signing the contract
    by itself is a tricky thing and over on top of that, these people are
    asking for money.

    Second of all, if this deal is so lucrative, why can't you guys look in
    the head-hunters? Not in e-grps or newsgrps - it by itself sounds very
    un-professional.

    A big No-No!!!



    nagi

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    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Very Urgent : Require Freelance programmers
    Importance: High


    Dear List Member

    We require FREELANCE PROGRAMMERS OF VARIOUS SKILL SETS...

    WORK AT HOME OPPORTUNITY -- ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD...

    We are a group of companies dealing in Software development since last
    20
    years. During our journey of 20 years in this field we had developed
    more than
    2000 routines and full applications which comprises of about 5 million
    lines
    of source code.

    NOW WE WANT TO CONVERT THESE 5 MILLION LINES OF SOURCE CODE INTO ONE
    PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE TO ANOTHER....

    WE PAY ACCORDING TO SKILL SET INVOLVED

    YOU NEED NOT LEAVE YOUR PLACE OR JOB... WORK IN YOUR SPARE TIME...

    YOU MUST FULFILL OUR REQUIREMENTS AND CRITERIA....

    It is three stage process to get in...

    FIRST : You need to send your detailed Resume as detailed below
    SECOND : If you are selected
    --- you will be asked to enter into a specific agreement
    --- you need to deposit some amounts
    and some other criteria we will ask you to fulfill.
    THIRD : As soon as you fulfill our crietria we will start to send you
    the work
    according to our agreement.

    If you are interested follow the instructions below...

    FIRST STEP

    Send your detailed resume in TEXT FORMAT ONLY TO E-mail
    innovativeinstitute2@o...?subject=Interested_A and must include

    following DATA... [noparse][[/noparse]DO NOT REPLY THIS E-MAIL]

    START
    Name
    Address (in detail)
    Birth Date
    Educational Qualifications
    Professional Qualifications
    Project Involvement
    Language Conversion Skill Set Detail.
    e.g.
    I can Convert....

    C To Java
    C++ To Java
    BASICA To C
    FoxPro To XML

    etc...

    Time you spare for us : ______ hours per week
    You get this information from :
    END

    Note : IF YOU FILL THAT THIS IS NEEDFUL FOR ANY OF YOUR FRIEND, PLEASE
    SEND
    HIM/HER...


    Bharat Thakkar
    Director
    Innovative International Institute

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    Message: 25
    Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:49:09 -0500
    From: Rodent <daweasel@s...>
    Subject: Re: Very Urgent : Require Freelance programmers

    So explain this:

    To use MSN Messenger Service to chat with a co-worker, I had to sign up for
    a Hotmail account. This email address is not shown in my MSN Messenger
    profile and I have never given out this email address or sent any email
    from it. I get 2-3 pieces of Smile mail a month, not even addressed to me.
    Sounds like the provider isn't doing a very good job. I complain, and
    receive no answer. Never had a problem with any small providers -- only big
    ones. Now you know why the anti-spam groups exist.

    One thing you seem to miss in your Post Office analogy is that the sender
    pays the postage. With email, the receiver is paying the postage in the form
    of a monthly fee and possibly per-minute connection fees.

    Original Message


    > I work for a large ISP in my area, these "anti-spam" organizations are
    more
    > of an inconvenience to ISP's like us then to spammers. They just move on
    to
    > other ISPs. In the mean time, our paying customers have to deal with
    MONTHS
    > of rejected and returned E-mails. We do everything in our power to keep
    > people from abusing our services, boo hoo if they get a few pieces of spam
    > through, we'll catch it and SELF-ENFORCE. Sorry, but we were burned by
    the
    > "internet blackhole list" about a year ago, when we failed one of their
    > little "tests" that their server runs (no actual spam ever went through
    our
    > system, I've got all the logs to prove it).
    >
    > Thank god for firewalls, every IP address in the class B that we trace
    back
    > to an anti-spam organization gets banned from SMTP and POP3 ports.
    Freaking
    > BS that we should have to go to these lengths just to provide
    un-interupted
    > service to our paying customers. Sorry for the very off topic post, but I
    > just get angry when hard working sysadmins lose money over what amounts to
    a
    > single click fix (delete). I doubt you get that upset when a piece of
    junk
    > snail mail comes into your box.. Do you call the post office and
    complain?
    > What do you do... throw it away....





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    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Digest Number 651


    There are 14 messages in this issue.

    Topics in this digest:

    1. RE: accelerometer
    From: C Stratton <cory@s...>
    2. Re: Re: AIC (Read Me)
    From: "Chris Anderson" <fes@g...>
    3. Re: Solenoid valves
    From: agarb@j...
    4. Re: Solenoid valves
    From: warren@a...
    5. Re: Re: AIC (Read Me)
    From: Chilton Webb <chilton@t...>
    6. Re: Might not be around too often anymore
    From: CHIPKEN@a...
    7. Re: Generator controls
    From: "Carl McIver" <cmciver@m...>
    8. Re: Cheapo generators & Basic Stamps
    From: auto106947@h...
    9. I2C slave Stamp
    From: thomas_seeker@y...
    10. Re: I2C slave Stamp
    From: bs2web@y...
    11. SMD Adapters
    From: "Kevin Cooper" <kev1718@h...>
    12. Re: SMD Adapters
    From: bs2web@y...
    13. RE: program calling with bs2
    From: Tracy Allen <tracy@e...>
    14. Re: EEPROM checking
    From: Tracy Allen <tracy@e...>


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    Message: 1
    Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 23:15:42 GMT
    From: C Stratton <cory@s...>
    Subject: RE: accelerometer

    Denis,

    thanks for the tip. If my project works I'll be making more then one.
    Each one will require 2 '202's so I'd hat to spend $60.00 every time I
    need to build one.

    Cory

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    On 5/14/01, 4:47:25 PM, "Dennis P. O'Leary" <doleary@h...> wrote
    regarding RE: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] accelerometer:


    > Cory -

    > I agree with Ryan about the eval board. But if you want to mount several
    of
    > the 202J series, I found a surface-to-dip board (0.72"x0.45") as part of
    the
    > Surf Board series at my local supply shop (also at Digikey). Use of a
    fine
    > soldering tip and a magnifying class helped solder the 202 to the surf
    > board.

    > Denis



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    Message: 2
    Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 07:39:13 +0800
    From: "Chris Anderson" <fes@g...>
    Subject: Re: Re: AIC (Read Me)

    Don't worry Anthony, the person that never made mistake, well, he never made
    anything. Your info on the list is appreciated.
    Chris
    Original Message
    From: Anthony Conti
    To: basic stamp
    Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 5:40 AM
    Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Re: AIC (Read Me)


    Look I said that I am sorry. I did not realize that the post was that big.
    See I am using a LAN for my internet, and I do forget that something that
    takes me 30 sec to download might take someone else 30 min (or longer) to
    download. I am human and god made us to make mistakes so we may learn from
    our mistakes. Well I learned from this mistake.

    So as I have been saying " I AM SORRY!!!"

    Anthony (TC)

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    Message: 3
    Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 18:24:06 -0400
    From: agarb@j...
    Subject: Re: Solenoid valves

    Define cheap...

    Check out Grainger. If memory serves correctly you can buy a coil for
    about $20 and valve that the coils sits on top of for about $25.

    On Sun, 13 May 2001 17:19:24 -0000 sjohns10@h... writes:
    > Hi. I want to connect a few (3) solenoid valves to my BS2. I am
    > getting relays to handle the voltage difference, but I can't seem to
    >
    > find any solenoid valves to fit my application (a beverage
    > dispenser). The beverages are going to be under pressure, not more
    > than 20 psi, and when I push a button on the basic stamp, I want it
    > to be able to fill up a certain sized cup to the right amount
    > automatically. I already have the code, but I don't have the valves,
    >
    > so could anyone tell me where I could get three of them for cheap?
    >
    > Thanks
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
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    >


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    Message: 4
    Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 19:55:16 EDT
    From: warren@a...
    Subject: Re: Solenoid valves

    You might want to try Industrial Plastic Valves (702) 883-6108, in Carson
    City, NV

    They have 12, 24 vdc and 120 vac, prices (list couple years old) were
    $20-40,
    depending on material (plastic, brass, stainless) and features.


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    Message: 5
    Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 19:49:41 -0500
    From: Chilton Webb <chilton@t...>
    Subject: Re: Re: AIC (Read Me)

    In the interest of the Stamp community, truth, justice, and liberty for
    all, my sanity, and in honor of the now-deceased Douglas Noel Adams,
    please stop posting replies regarding this topic. If you have any
    further complaints, problems, issues, etc., just take them off-list.
    Hey, you can even curse off-list.

    Don't even bother replying to this e-mail on-list. I know you want to,
    but try to refrain. Just click the little delete button in your e-mail.

    If you don't feel the offending parties have been reprimanded, let this
    serve as your official notice that they have. The offending parties have
    been thoroughly reprimanded, those who reprimanded them have been
    reprimanded, and those who feel the offending party was not the
    offending party, have also been reprimanded. In hopes of stopping
    infinite recursion, please do not allow the Dark Side™ to force you into
    reprimanding me on-list. You can do that off-list and I'll feel just as
    sad. Yep, I'll probably cry like a school girl. A school girl with no
    Basic Stamps, no less.

    If you feel you have received this message in error, i.e. you didn't
    reprimand anyone, or you despise my use of the word "reprimand", please
    delete this e-mail now and a sense of revenge will comfort you.

    If you feel you have received this message because you deserved it, you
    probably did. Please delete this e-mail now and a sense of peace and
    completion shall befall you.

    If you feel you have received this message because it's just your luck
    that I'd send this while you're using your WAP cel-phone and you're
    calling internationally on a roaming charge, and this message alone
    consumed hours of precious battery life and ran up your bill thousands
    of dollars, please delete this message and call your cel phone provider
    and beg forgiveness. Come to think of it, don't do that, they'll
    probably just reprimand you.

    Please delete this message. It won't self-destruct on its own, you have
    to do it. It's OK, I won't be offended. Just click the delete button. Go
    ahead...


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    Message: 6
    Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 20:56:10 EDT
    From: CHIPKEN@a...
    Subject: Re: Might not be around too often anymore

    I want to expand this subject area more. First, the BASIC Stamp carries a
    heavy load out there in the world and it has to be reliable when it does a
    pbasic command. Interrupts must be done under a control condition. To do an
    interrupt in the middle of a command can in some cases mean trouble. You
    could lock up your control sytem causing an operation not desired. Second,
    the polling interrupts on the BS2p only become active after the pbasic
    command has been completed. This way you, the programmer, know that the
    command was completed when an interrupt occurs and the next command
    resulting
    from the interrupt was defined clearly in the program software. Third, the
    pbasic commands allows the polling interrupts to be locked, if desired, and
    the interrupt I/O pin causing the interrupt is stored in stamp memory for
    programming input use. All pins can be interrupt I/Os which more than
    available on a PC.
    The BASIC Stamp is a simple reliable device and will always work well if its
    design and firmware logic remains simple. I think time will prove this out.
    Regards,
    Chuck


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    Message: 7
    Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 18:22:09 -0700
    From: "Carl McIver" <cmciver@m...>
    Subject: Re: Generator controls

    --- In basicstamps@y..., auto106947@h... wrote:
    > Bought a cheapo gasoline generator (<$400), of course
    > once I brought it home and opened it up there
    > was a warning about driving "solid state" equipment,
    > goes on to say "damage may result if the equipment
    > is not designed to operate within a ±10% voltage variation
    > or a ±3 hz frequency variation.
    >
    > Any comment on this anyone?

    'Been distracted by a number of other things lately, so I went into lurk
    mode and digest. Lurk mode off for a few minutes.

    During the new century preparations, I was thinking about using a Stamp
    to control speed of the generator. The thinking is that the Stamp would
    monitor frequency and then adjust the speed to match the load through a
    servo. While it's at such a casual job, it can also monitor oil pressure
    and fuel level, sounding alarms as necessary, and maybe even firing the set
    up when necessary, providing all the necessary controls for starting.
    Everything else is easy to figure out, giving it brain time only, but
    how to measure 60Hz close enough to keep it within one or two cycles normal
    operation is the tough part. I may miss this reply, but I thought I'd throw
    that out for grinding around in your brain. I figure one can add a few
    bucks to a cheap generator and get one as good as far more expensive ones,
    plus a few bells and whistles.



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    Message: 8
    Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 02:30:59 -0000
    From: auto106947@h...
    Subject: Re: Cheapo generators & Basic Stamps

    Thanks Rodent, Scott, Jay, Ray, Mike, Ice!

    Actually the wall wart I had hooked up to the generator was to
    a cheapo black and white 5" TV/FM radio combo, the kind that
    run on 9 'C' batteries or a wall wart.

    The TV reception was fine, didn't notice any degradation at
    all and the TV was about 2' from the running generator, couldn't
    hear anything though.

    Like Carl mentioned there oughta be all kinds of neat possibilities
    with a cheapo generator and a Basic Stamp.

    This generator cuts in and out pretty much, it really seems like it
    over corrects and then overshoots as you watch the cooling blower
    driven govener pull on the throttle. Seems like a frequency counter
    hooked up to a linear stepper might be a pretty neat solution.

    Just wish I had the time.

    Thanks,

    Mark


    --- In basicstamps@y..., "Ray McArthur" <rjmca@u...> wrote:
    > About the "bar" on a TV due to freq error:
    >
    > I thought TVs have their own vertical oscillator, syncronized by
    the vert
    > sync pulse in the video signal, and do not depend on line freq,
    which can
    > vary on a short term basis. Our TVs work fine on our generator.
    That is
    > why most portable TVs work on the atrocious freq/voltage coming
    from the 12
    > volt auto inverters. Perhaps a video expert like Mike Hardwick
    would
    > comment on this.
    >
    > Ray McArthur
    >
    > >
    Original Message
    > > From: <auto106947@h...>
    > > To: <basicstamps@y...>
    > > Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2001 8:21 PM
    > > Subject: [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] Cheapo generators & Basic Stamps
    > >
    > >
    > > Bought a cheapo gasoline generator (<$400), of course
    > > once I brought it home and opened it up there
    > > was a warning about driving "solid state" equipment,
    > > goes on to say "damage may result if the equipment
    > > is not designed to operate within a ±10% voltage variation
    > > or a ±3 hz frequency variation.



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    Message: 9
    Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 02:54:15 -0000
    From: thomas_seeker@y...
    Subject: I2C slave Stamp

    Greetings All,
    I was wondering if anyone had any ideas (links, code, etc...) for
    running a BS2 as a _slave_ on the I2C bus? I've seen plenty of
    examples for master applications, but none for slave. I've searched
    this message board, no help - I've searched the internet, no help.
    (Interesting side note, the word "slave" in your search terms turns
    up more fetish sites than you can shake a stick at.)
    Thanks in advance,
    Thomas



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    Message: 10
    Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 03:20:54 -0000
    From: bs2web@y...
    Subject: Re: I2C slave Stamp

    Thomas,

    According to the Basic STAMP manual (page 137, the page for the
    command I2CIN) the BS2 cannot operate as a slave. The I2C definition
    of a master is the device which generates the clock, and initiates
    data transfer. The definition of a slave is the device which is
    addressed by the master. The BS2 does not have a device type or a
    unique address for the I2C bus, and thus cannot operate as a slave. I
    have a small I2C tutorial at:
    http://www.high-techgarage.com/tutorial/i2c.php which goes over some
    of the basics of I2C protocol. There is also a link on that page to a
    copy of the I2C bus specification ver 2.1 which goes into lengthy
    detail about device types and protocols.

    Good luck with your I2C project!

    --Jeff Wallace
    --Add a RTC, 256k EEPROM and an I2C buss to your BS2
    --http://www.high-techgarage.com/products/timekeeper.php

    --- In basicstamps@y..., thomas_seeker@y... wrote:
    > Greetings All,
    > I was wondering if anyone had any ideas (links, code, etc...) for
    > running a BS2 as a _slave_ on the I2C bus? I've seen plenty of
    > examples for master applications, but none for slave. I've searched
    > this message board, no help - I've searched the internet, no help.
    > (Interesting side note, the word "slave" in your search terms turns
    > up more fetish sites than you can shake a stick at.)
    > Thanks in advance,
    > Thomas



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    Message: 11
    Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 00:14:19 -0400
    From: "Kevin Cooper" <kev1718@h...>
    Subject: SMD Adapters

    Does anyone have any SMD 16 pid to Dip adapters
    for sale?

    Kevin

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    Message: 12
    Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 04:56:54 -0000
    From: bs2web@y...
    Subject: Re: SMD Adapters

    Digi-Key has a wide variety of SMD to DIP adapters covering many
    price ranges (economy to the deluxe models). If you prepay with a
    check, they (Digi-Key) pay for shipping.

    --Jeff Wallace
    --Add a RTC, 256k EEPROM and an I2C bus to your BS2
    --http://www.high-techgarage.com/products/timekeeper.php

    --- In basicstamps@y..., "Kevin Cooper" <kev1718@h...> wrote:
    > Does anyone have any SMD 16 pid to Dip adapters
    > for sale?
    >
    > Kevin
    >
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    Message: 13
    Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 22:09:27 -0700
    From: Tracy Allen <tracy@e...>
    Subject: RE: program calling with bs2

    [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] RE: program calling with bs2
    [noparse][[/noparse]basicstamps] re: program calling with BS2e, BS2sx, BS2p

    At 10:04 PM +0200 5/11/01, Peter Verkaik wrote:
    >Thanks for your suggestions. I have put them in, together
    >with some readable constants for the TargetID values...

    >EN1P0 con (1<<3)+0 'entry 1 in program 0
    >EN2P0 con (2<<3)+0 'entry 2 in program 0
    >EN14P4 con (14<<3)+4 'entry 14 in program 4
    >EN6P7 con (6<<3)+7 'entry 6 in program 7

    I like that--it remains clear for the sake of program documentation.

    >Your suggestion regarding the stack overrun/underrun would keep the
    >stackpointer inside. Its boundaries but then the stack might get
    >corrupted, so where does that leave me?
    > ref: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/basicstamps/message/11794

    It was a bad suggestion. A corrupt stack is going to be a sad face
    anyway, so there is no point in clamping the overrun/underrun.
    Right, it is up to the user to keep track of the stack nesting.

    >Finally, the parameter passing.
    >Suppose I have a function that takes 2 variables.
    >Then I would get some code as below:....
    > ref: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/basicstamps/message/11815

    Great! It does take a lot of overhead in time and code, but it is
    very systematic. What recursive function are you planning?

    The code for the multi-byte push/pop could be shortened by use of a
    FOR-NEXT loop:

    PushLocal:
    for X=0 to 9
    put stackpointer-X,B16(X) ' implied array
    next
    stackPointer=StackPointer-10
    return

    PopLocal:
    for X=1 to 10
    get stackpointer+X,B16(10-X) ' implied array
    next
    stackPointer=stackPointer+10
    return

    >Variable definition have to be very precise (use predefined names like W0
    >to declare variables at a known location).

    That is another subject! I prefer _not_ to use the fixed names
    (w0,..,w13; b0,..b25, nothing for nibs nor bits). Instead, I name
    global _word_ variables in every bank. Being words, the compiler
    puts them first in the memory map. I then name my global bytes, nibs
    and bits as chunks within those words. For example,
    sxword var word
    sxgo var sxword.byte0
    sxaux var sxword.byte1.nib0
    sxflag0 var sxword.byte1.nib1.bit0

    The names are aliases. The global words and chunks thereof appear in
    every bank.
    <http://www.emesystems.com/BS2SX.htm#variables>

    There is (hopefully) some main RAM left over in the memory map after
    the global variables. I use that for local variables, named with
    meaningful names as usual, and the compiler will position them
    automatically above my global variables no worries. I just think it
    comes out more readable and maintainable that way.

    The stack mechanism would in any case provide a good way to store up
    all of those global variables if the entire RAM was needed for some
    completely different purpose. For example, I had one application
    reading out the packets of data from an Oregon Scientific weather
    station, and the only way to capture all of the data was to free up
    the entire ram. So I had to "stack" my main variables in scratchpad
    while the BS2sx program jumped to another bank to capture the packets
    of data. I didn't use a real stack for that, just an ad-hoc buffer.
    (Now, the BS2p offers the SERSTR modifier that allows data like that
    to be captured directly to the scratchpad RAM).

    -- regards,
    Tracy Allen
    electronically monitored ecosystems
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    Message: 14
    Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 22:14:27 -0700
    From: Tracy Allen <tracy@e...>
    Subject: Re: EEPROM checking

    >Hi all,
    >dose anyone know of a way a BS2 can check it's EEPROM before it
    >starts it's program? What I mean by check it's EEPROM is to see if
    >there are any errors or any bad program slots.
    >thanks,
    >TC

    You could READ the individual bytes from 0 to 2047 and calculated a
    checksum or CRC. Since you mention program slots, maybe you also
    want to do that on a BS2sx, BS2e or BS2p. It is easy to extend the
    checksum to all banks on the BS2p, because you can access the entire
    eeprom memory through use of the STORE command. On the BS2sx or
    BS2e, you will have to load a small program into each bank to check
    the eeprom memory for that bank.

    -- regards,
    Tracy Allen
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