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Kerry Barlow wrote:
> I struck out on finding a useable PCboard utility.After testing 10 differant
> PC board programs I found them all to have some deficiency.Mainly the price
> of buying a full package,but also auto routing and ratsnest rewiring etc
> ,there was always some gotcha.
> I wound up using the ExpressPCB program. <SNIP>
I've also used ExpressPCB. With good success.
and after you've prototyped and perfected your board (if you desire to have
professionally made boards), you can send them the file and have boards made at
a
pretty reasonable price.
Rus
> I struck out on finding a useable PCboard utility.After testing 10 differant
> PC board programs I found them all to have some deficiency.Mainly the price
> of buying a full package,but also auto routing and ratsnest rewiring etc
> ,there was always some gotcha.
> I wound up using the ExpressPCB program. <SNIP>
I've also used ExpressPCB. With good success.
and after you've prototyped and perfected your board (if you desire to have
professionally made boards), you can send them the file and have boards made at
a
pretty reasonable price.
Rus
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PC board programs I found them all to have some deficiency.Mainly the price
of buying a full package,but also auto routing and ratsnest rewiring etc
,there was always some gotcha.
I wound up using the ExpressPCB program. I first design my circuit on
paper and then manually route the wires using the program. This appears a
real pain at first but really is not that bad,for low quantities of
components. I so far have done at most 5 IC's and numerous support
components(Resistors,caps,Diodes,plugs etc). I also design all single sided
to save myself grief later on. This of course requires around 3-5 jumpers on
board sometimes.This is no huge problem for home use. To print the board, I
have the program display the board on a white background with black
traces,and the grid turned off. I then do a screen capture of the board with
a differant program and then print the board out to my printer on a
transparency. I use .012 size traces as a minimum.
If you wanted to use the double side feature,then you would eliminate any
unwanted jumpers as well. I use the presensitized boards for PC making.
Right now for example I am making a board for the Homebrew stamp kit. I
have the design finished (single sided) and only 1 jumper wire. I next plan
to add a 555 timer and 5 volt regulator to the board to make it an all in 1
package for my small robots.
This may give people some idea of the level of wiring I am talking about here.
Sincerely
Kerry
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the
grid. What program do you use to screen capture? I hate sending a board to be
made
and not testing it first!
Rick
Kerry Barlow wrote:
> I struck out on finding a useable PCboard utility.After testing 10 differant
> PC board programs I found them all to have some deficiency.Mainly the price
> of buying a full package,but also auto routing and ratsnest rewiring etc
> ,there was always some gotcha.
> I wound up using the ExpressPCB program. I first design my circuit on
> paper and then manually route the wires using the program. This appears a
> real pain at first but really is not that bad,for low quantities of
> components. I so far have done at most 5 IC's and numerous support
> components(Resistors,caps,Diodes,plugs etc). I also design all single sided
> to save myself grief later on. This of course requires around 3-5 jumpers on
> board sometimes.This is no huge problem for home use. To print the board, I
> have the program display the board on a white background with black
> traces,and the grid turned off. I then do a screen capture of the board with
> a differant program and then print the board out to my printer on a
> transparency. I use .012 size traces as a minimum.
> If you wanted to use the double side feature,then you would eliminate any
> unwanted jumpers as well. I use the presensitized boards for PC making.
> Right now for example I am making a board for the Homebrew stamp kit. I
> have the design finished (single sided) and only 1 jumper wire. I next plan
> to add a 555 timer and 5 volt regulator to the board to make it an all in 1
> package for my small robots.
> This may give people some idea of the level of wiring I am talking about
here.
>
>
> Sincerely
> Kerry
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imagine any screen capture utility would work. I believe there are others at
www.tucows.com
At 11:23 AM 3/25/2000 -0800, you wrote:
>Hey cool, I have been printing out the pc board and recopying it to get rid
of the
>grid. What program do you use to screen capture? I hate sending a board to
be made
>and not testing it first!
>
>Rick
>
>Kerry Barlow wrote:
>
>> I struck out on finding a useable PCboard utility.After testing 10 differant
>> PC board programs I found them all to have some deficiency.Mainly the price
>> of buying a full package,but also auto routing and ratsnest rewiring etc
>> ,there was always some gotcha.
>> I wound up using the ExpressPCB program. I first design my circuit on
>> paper and then manually route the wires using the program. This appears a
>> real pain at first but really is not that bad,for low quantities of
>> components. I so far have done at most 5 IC's and numerous support
>> components(Resistors,caps,Diodes,plugs etc). I also design all single sided
>> to save myself grief later on. This of course requires around 3-5 jumpers on
>> board sometimes.This is no huge problem for home use. To print the board, I
>> have the program display the board on a white background with black
>> traces,and the grid turned off. I then do a screen capture of the board with
>> a differant program and then print the board out to my printer on a
>> transparency. I use .012 size traces as a minimum.
>> If you wanted to use the double side feature,then you would eliminate any
>> unwanted jumpers as well. I use the presensitized boards for PC making.
>> Right now for example I am making a board for the Homebrew stamp kit. I
>> have the design finished (single sided) and only 1 jumper wire. I next plan
>> to add a 555 timer and 5 volt regulator to the board to make it an all in 1
>> package for my small robots.
>> This may give people some idea of the level of wiring I am talking about
here.
>>
>>
>> Sincerely
>> Kerry
>> Admin@M...
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unbeatable.
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Rus Hardy wrote:
>
> Kerry Barlow wrote:
>
> > I struck out on finding a useable PCboard utility.After testing 10 differant
> > PC board programs I found them all to have some deficiency.Mainly the price
> > of buying a full package,but also auto routing and ratsnest rewiring etc
> > ,there was always some gotcha.
> > I wound up using the ExpressPCB program. <SNIP>
>
> I've also used ExpressPCB. With good success.
> and after you've prototyped and perfected your board (if you desire to have
> professionally made boards), you can send them the file and have boards made
at a
> pretty reasonable price.
>
> Rus
>
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screen or Alt-Print Screen to capture the active window.
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Hey cool, I have been printing out the pc board and recopying it to get rid
of the
grid. What program do you use to screen capture? I hate sending a board to
be made
and not testing it first!
Rick
Kerry Barlow wrote:
> I struck out on finding a useable PCboard utility.After testing 10
differant
> PC board programs I found them all to have some deficiency.Mainly the
price
> of buying a full package,but also auto routing and ratsnest rewiring etc
> ,there was always some gotcha.
> I wound up using the ExpressPCB program. I first design my circuit on
> paper and then manually route the wires using the program. This appears a
> real pain at first but really is not that bad,for low quantities of
> components. I so far have done at most 5 IC's and numerous support
> components(Resistors,caps,Diodes,plugs etc). I also design all single
sided
> to save myself grief later on. This of course requires around 3-5 jumpers
on
> board sometimes.This is no huge problem for home use. To print the board,
I
> have the program display the board on a white background with black
> traces,and the grid turned off. I then do a screen capture of the board
with
> a differant program and then print the board out to my printer on a
> transparency. I use .012 size traces as a minimum.
> If you wanted to use the double side feature,then you would eliminate any
> unwanted jumpers as well. I use the presensitized boards for PC making.
> Right now for example I am making a board for the Homebrew stamp kit. I
> have the design finished (single sided) and only 1 jumper wire. I next
plan
> to add a 555 timer and 5 volt regulator to the board to make it an all in
1
> package for my small robots.
> This may give people some idea of the level of wiring I am talking about
here.
>
>
> Sincerely
> Kerry
> Admin@M...
> WWW server hosting
> [url=Http://mntnweb.com]Http://mntnweb.com[/url]
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