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Sensitive STAMP based Metal Detector - enjoy!!

Beau SchwabeBeau Schwabe Posts: 6,563
edited 2008-08-05 07:50 in BASIC Stamp
I know that this subject comes up every now and then about someone wanting to build a Metal Detector.

....So today was a good rainy day, and I decided to do a little testing with this idea in the back of my mind.


This design can be scaled and equipped with multiple "sense" coils, that should be able to compete with some
of the best Metal Detectors out there.... This is a unique implementation of the popular PI (Pulse Induction)
Metal detector that provides a STAMP RCTIME range of approximately 30000, on the original BS2 platform,
from "no metal" to "all metal".

Have Fun!!

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Beau Schwabe - Mask Designer III

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(Communication Interface Division)
500 Pinnacle Court, Suite 525
Mail Stop GA1
Norcross,GA 30071

Post Edited (Beau Schwabe) : 9/4/2004 4:56:24 PM GMT
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  • DntGvaShtDntGvaSht Posts: 65
    edited 2004-08-30 03:28
    Thanks for the info Beau, I have dabbled in home-made metal detectors before, using BPO and even some PI stuff interfaced with a soundcard.· This would be a new approach for me though, and I intend on checking it out as soon as time permits smile.gif

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  • Chris SavageChris Savage Parallax Engineering Posts: 14,406
    edited 2004-08-30 17:43
    Beau,

    ·· Could you post some pictures of the coils, and perhaps how they are arranged?· While you provided some nice schematics, a look at how things should go together would be nice, if it's not too much trouble (read: you already buried it).

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    Post Edited (Chris Savage (Parallax)) : 1/22/2008 3:55:25 PM GMT
  • Beau SchwabeBeau Schwabe Posts: 6,563
    edited 2004-08-30 21:03
    Chris,

    It's not quite buried, however it might be awhile on the pictures.... (read: My wife is out of town with the digital camera).

    The coil layout is pretty much like the design notes... except taped on the bench right now - grin. looks sorta like a bio-hazard
    symbol with the three coils at 120 deg to each other (flat-2D)

    I will post pictures when available.....stay tuned.

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    Beau Schwabe - Mask Designer III

    National Semiconductor Corporation
    (Communication Interface Division)
    500 Pinnacle Court, Suite 525
    Mail Stop GA1
    Norcross,GA 30071
  • steve_bsteve_b Posts: 1,563
    edited 2004-08-30 22:51
    Hey Beau..very cool.

    Did you wind the coils yourself?· Was wondering if you got dimensions and all...

    Thanks

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  • Beau SchwabeBeau Schwabe Posts: 6,563
    edited 2004-08-31 06:03
    Steve,

    Yes, I did wind the coils myself...If you look at "Metal Detector - NOTES.gif" you will see a description
    of how the coils are constructed as well as the calibration method I used to get this thing going. I used an empty
    film canister, which turns out to be about 1 and a quarter inch diameter, as the form for winding the coils.
    The important thing to remember is that the ACTIVE coil and the SENSE coil have the same characteristics and
    even this isn't absolutely written in stone. The Coils can certainly be larger or smaller diameters depending on
    your application needs. Feel free to experiment with different coil shapes, sizes etc....They don't necessarily
    need to be round... they could be square or even triangle. A good test setup would be to have various coils that
    are binary weighted... what I mean is for example one set of coils might have 50 total turns, the next 100, 200,
    400 etc. Try intermixing them to see how your results vary. I might point out that a scope really helps in a
    project like this especially since the oscillator circuit runs at about 750kHz with the project notes that I provided.

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    Beau Schwabe - Mask Designer III

    National Semiconductor Corporation
    (Communication Interface Division)
    500 Pinnacle Court, Suite 525
    Mail Stop GA1
    Norcross,GA 30071

    Post Edited (Beau Schwabe) : 8/31/2004 6:42:32 AM GMT
  • MeepoMeepo Posts: 24
    edited 2008-01-22 01:05
    Has anyone else built this? How well does it work?
  • Wolverine69Wolverine69 Posts: 31
    edited 2008-01-22 23:55
    So who's going to be the first to build this and report back?· It looks pretty simple to do actually.

    Thanks Beau!
  • Beau SchwabeBeau Schwabe Posts: 6,563
    edited 2008-01-23 03:27
    Wolverine69,

    Thank you! Sounds like you are volunteering... smilewinkgrin.gif

    Honestly, I think people are just afraid to wind their own coils. scool.gif

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    IC Layout Engineer
    Parallax, Inc.
  • jonasdjonasd Posts: 3
    edited 2008-07-28 08:38
    I made a brave attemt at this design, but I am stuck.

    I might have made som silly beginners mistakes, but the inability to calculate the design is most frustrating. Could you please provide some of the formulas you used while designing the circuits?

    I will send you some pictures of the progress and practical use if I succeed...
  • Beau SchwabeBeau Schwabe Posts: 6,563
    edited 2008-07-28 16:19
    jonasd,

    What have you put together so far, and where are you having problems with the calculations?

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  • jonasdjonasd Posts: 3
    edited 2008-08-04 09:20
    IT works. And it works rather well. The coils were a little problematic and tuning was an exercise of patience.

    Now I would like to increase the range of it, how do i balance the circuit for larger coils?

    Jonasd
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  • Beau SchwabeBeau Schwabe Posts: 6,563
    edited 2008-08-05 03:25
    jonasd,

    How much larger coils? ... The balancing should be about the same... I noticed with the adjustment coil that you had two separate wires going to gnd... this coil should be a closed loop "shorted" with a single wire going to ground.

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    IC Layout Engineer
    Parallax, Inc.
  • jonasdjonasd Posts: 3
    edited 2008-08-05 07:50
    Beau,

    Yep that was a silly one ....·How much larger? Well range is the criteria of optimization so let's say a clear identification of a·small coin·at about 5 inches (in the ground). I found some formulas for·inductance for single layer air coil, is it a reasonable approximation to regard the coil as single layer?

    Jonasd
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