Yes, that's an interesting board and concept. I can only wish for something like that with a P2 for hard real time tasks though, depending on how that XMOS is connected, the XMOS can be an excellent RT proc but nowhere as easy to use as either the P1 or P2.
It says this TTL serial debug and expansion serial ports up to 3.6Mbps which seems a little slow ?
Unclear if that 3.6M is a hard (HW) limit, or a Kernel support ?
RaspPi HW can support I think 16MBd UART and 128MHz SPI
Looking at the GPIO lists, it looks to have 56 gpio's
UARTn UART1/UART2 with RTS/CTS
UART Debug
FST_SPI_xx - looks to be QuadSPI with 4 CSn
SPI1 - Another SPI port
I2Cn - I2C0..I2C6 - plenty of i2c
I2C_NFC - Near field reader ?
JTAG - maybe for debug/pgm/board test ?
MF_PLT ? - 6 Clocks, grouped with PWM ?
SDMMC2 SDMMC1..3 CLK, D0..D3
MF_HDA_xx - SPI like ?
Yes, that's an interesting board and concept. I can only wish for something like that with a P2 for hard real time tasks though, depending on how that XMOS is connected, the XMOS can be an excellent RT proc but nowhere as easy to use as either the P1 or P2.
The GPIO lists are promising, and it might connect well to P2, as I doubt the quoted 3.6M is all the Serial IO is good for. Faster should be possible.
What life-time do they give on this module ?
Just went to the site, and all items are sold out. It sort looks like an interesting product, maybe a replacement for a Raspberry Pi. Since there is a SimpleIDE Linux version still available, install that so you could program from a small Linux configuration. Or if you have extra cash laying around, Win 10 Pro - $150, install that, then you could install SimpleIDE Windows version, and be running some relatively up to date software. Just some thoughts.
The Atomic Pi is listed on Amazon but shows unavailable with no idea when they will more. However, in the comments, it seems the vendor states that Amazon has 500 to sell. That is unless they sold out already.
I get a bit weary with these board since they never perform to the specs the vendor shows and they tend to go out of production rather quickly. Although it does have an Intel Atom processor, give Intel's history with similar dev boards (Galileo, Edison(Atom Processor) , Arduino 101), I would not put my money on this.
They claim to be a RasPi killer, but since the Atomic Pi only has a 26 pin GPIO header, I wonder if that comparison is with the older Raspberry Pi 1 A or B and not the current RasPi 3 B+ which has a 40 pin GPIO header.
Personally I would like to see more of the spec on the GPU and see what the OpenGL-ES support looks like. The RasPi has built libs for OpenGL-ES but only supports up to OpenGL-ES 2.0, so something like 3.0 would be interesting.
They claim to be a RasPi killer, but since the Atomic Pi only has a 26 pin GPIO header, I wonder if that comparison is with the older Raspberry Pi 1 A or B and not the current RasPi 3 B+ which has a 40 pin GPIO header.
How many people actually use the GPIO on the Pi though? Sure, if you're using it to build something, you use it. But the majority of Pis seem to sit in people's cupboards and host their IRC bouncer or whatever.
They claim to be a RasPi killer, but since the Atomic Pi only has a 26 pin GPIO header, I wonder if that comparison is with the older Raspberry Pi 1 A or B and not the current RasPi 3 B+ which has a 40 pin GPIO header.
Worse, that 26 pins is nothing like a RaspPi pinout !?
I cannot find a rear board image, as the SW DOCs suggest more IO, but maybe on some fine-pitch SMD connector or not even routed to a connector ?
They claim to be a RasPi killer, but since the Atomic Pi only has a 26 pin GPIO header, I wonder if that comparison is with the older Raspberry Pi 1 A or B and not the current RasPi 3 B+ which has a 40 pin GPIO header.
How many people actually use the GPIO on the Pi though? Sure, if you're using it to build something, you use it. But the majority of Pis seem to sit in people's cupboards and host their IRC bouncer or whatever.
I suppose there are some that buy a Pi for the novelty, but I know plenty of folks that use it for its GPIO capability. There are a ton of Pi Hats such as the PiFace line and the more recent Matrix Creator and such that use the GPIO interface quite nicely.
They claim to be a RasPi killer, but since the Atomic Pi only has a 26 pin GPIO header, I wonder if that comparison is with the older Raspberry Pi 1 A or B and not the current RasPi 3 B+ which has a 40 pin GPIO header.
Worse, that 26 pins is nothing like a RaspPi pinout !?
I cannot find a rear board image, as the SW DOCs suggest more IO, but maybe on some fine-pitch SMD connector or not even routed to a connector ?
Well, I am just going by what is present on the Atomic Pi currently and their claim.
I believe a better comparison for the Atomic Pi would be to the Up Board which does have an Atom as well and is pretty much a mimic of a RasPi including the 40 pin header. https://up-board.org/up/specifications/
They claim to be a RasPi killer, but since the Atomic Pi only has a 26 pin GPIO header, I wonder if that comparison is with the older Raspberry Pi 1 A or B and not the current RasPi 3 B+ which has a 40 pin GPIO header.
How many people actually use the GPIO on the Pi though? Sure, if you're using it to build something, you use it. But the majority of Pis seem to sit in people's cupboards and host their IRC bouncer or whatever.
I suppose there are some that buy a Pi for the novelty, but I know plenty of folks that use it for its GPIO capability. There are a ton of Pi Hats such as the PiFace line and the more recent Matrix Creator and such that use the GPIO interface quite nicely.
Yes, the question is less what is the mix of Pi use, as there are literally millions of them, and more what can you use Pi for.
The GPIO expansion eco-system, is massive and growing, and those board determine what you can use Pi (or anything that has a Pi Connector !) for.
I believe a better comparison for the Atomic Pi would be to the Up Board which does have an Atom as well and is pretty much a mimic of a RasPi including the 40 pin header. https://up-board.org/up/specifications/
Yes, that looks nice, uses a MAX CPLD as the IO shuffling, to manage pin mapping and resource. It does look to have cloned Pi pinouts.
No mention of MHz but looks to have UART/SPI/i2c/i2s/PWM to some level of function.
Overall Price and CPU sits above RaspPi.
Just thought I'd pop on and leave feedback. The Atomic Pi is pretty sweet! I initially bought my first one from Amazon. I didn't get the "whole Enchilada Breakout", so i had to make my own power supply and hook it up to the 26 pin port on the bottom. took me about 20 mins to find an old ac adapter that put out 5v 4amps and make one. Ive been using that one daily for a while now. i have tried it with Windows 10 (ran okay, not much room left on Emmc after install). I then installed Ubuntu Budgie 19 and that ran just fine. Now I'm running Debian 9. i have it set up for multitrack recording. using Jackd Audio, my Midi M-Audio Keystudio keyboard and Ardour. Runs everything flawlessly. My RPI 3 would die doing all that. lol
I just bought my second Atomic Pi direct from the Digital Loggers website. Took them about a week and a half to get it to my doorstep in Montana. This one has the "Enchilada Breakout" I havent messed with that one yet as im saving it for something at the moment.
Final thoughts - As far as a tinker board,
Pros:
it does some crazy cool stuff and has plenty o power, 4 mic inputs, xmos audio with 5watt amplifier. wifi, bluetooth and more.
Name brand. Made by ASUS
i would definately recommend it to a friend.Rock solid stable and high performance.
Cons:
only 6 gpio, and im a little confused how to use them (how i stumbled onto this website)
The USB3 port does not have a jack, you gotta make one i guess? or use the echilada breakout as it has it.
Community support not there yet.
Anyhow, if you can get one while the are in stock, DO IT!
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Interesting, I like a beefy looking heatsink
It says this TTL serial debug and expansion serial ports up to 3.6Mbps which seems a little slow ?
Unclear if that 3.6M is a hard (HW) limit, or a Kernel support ?
RaspPi HW can support I think 16MBd UART and 128MHz SPI
Looking at the GPIO lists, it looks to have 56 gpio's
UARTn UART1/UART2 with RTS/CTS
UART Debug
FST_SPI_xx - looks to be QuadSPI with 4 CSn
SPI1 - Another SPI port
I2Cn - I2C0..I2C6 - plenty of i2c
I2C_NFC - Near field reader ?
JTAG - maybe for debug/pgm/board test ?
MF_PLT ? - 6 Clocks, grouped with PWM ?
SDMMC2 SDMMC1..3 CLK, D0..D3
MF_HDA_xx - SPI like ?
The GPIO lists are promising, and it might connect well to P2, as I doubt the quoted 3.6M is all the Serial IO is good for. Faster should be possible.
What life-time do they give on this module ?
Ray
I get a bit weary with these board since they never perform to the specs the vendor shows and they tend to go out of production rather quickly. Although it does have an Intel Atom processor, give Intel's history with similar dev boards (Galileo, Edison(Atom Processor) , Arduino 101), I would not put my money on this.
They claim to be a RasPi killer, but since the Atomic Pi only has a 26 pin GPIO header, I wonder if that comparison is with the older Raspberry Pi 1 A or B and not the current RasPi 3 B+ which has a 40 pin GPIO header.
Personally I would like to see more of the spec on the GPU and see what the OpenGL-ES support looks like. The RasPi has built libs for OpenGL-ES but only supports up to OpenGL-ES 2.0, so something like 3.0 would be interesting.
How many people actually use the GPIO on the Pi though? Sure, if you're using it to build something, you use it. But the majority of Pis seem to sit in people's cupboards and host their IRC bouncer or whatever.
Worse, that 26 pins is nothing like a RaspPi pinout !?
I cannot find a rear board image, as the SW DOCs suggest more IO, but maybe on some fine-pitch SMD connector or not even routed to a connector ?
There are other Pi Intel clones, like this ?
https://up-shop.org/
Well, I am just going by what is present on the Atomic Pi currently and their claim.
I believe a better comparison for the Atomic Pi would be to the Up Board which does have an Atom as well and is pretty much a mimic of a RasPi including the 40 pin header.
https://up-board.org/up/specifications/
The LattePanda boards are Intel Atom based as well.
https://lattepanda.com/products
Even the ASUS Tinker Board is a mimic of the Pi board layout and sports a Rockchip RK3288 and a ARM-based Mali™-T764 GPU.
Yes, the question is less what is the mix of Pi use, as there are literally millions of them, and more what can you use Pi for.
The GPIO expansion eco-system, is massive and growing, and those board determine what you can use Pi (or anything that has a Pi Connector !) for.
Nice boards, but Lattepanda seem to have a 24 pin header, that is not Pi Compatible, so cannot easily tap into the Pi connected eco-system
Yes, that looks nice, uses a MAX CPLD as the IO shuffling, to manage pin mapping and resource. It does look to have cloned Pi pinouts.
No mention of MHz but looks to have UART/SPI/i2c/i2s/PWM to some level of function.
Overall Price and CPU sits above RaspPi.
That has a lot of extra silicon on that module, quite impressive.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07N298F2B/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3D4241373L385&psc=1
I just bought my second Atomic Pi direct from the Digital Loggers website. Took them about a week and a half to get it to my doorstep in Montana. This one has the "Enchilada Breakout" I havent messed with that one yet as im saving it for something at the moment.
Final thoughts - As far as a tinker board,
Pros:
it does some crazy cool stuff and has plenty o power, 4 mic inputs, xmos audio with 5watt amplifier. wifi, bluetooth and more.
Name brand. Made by ASUS
i would definately recommend it to a friend.Rock solid stable and high performance.
Cons:
only 6 gpio, and im a little confused how to use them (how i stumbled onto this website)
The USB3 port does not have a jack, you gotta make one i guess? or use the echilada breakout as it has it.
Community support not there yet.
Anyhow, if you can get one while the are in stock, DO IT!