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Soviet Intel 8088 Clone

ercoerco Posts: 20,256
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/USSR-Soviet-KM1810BM88-CPU-ceramic-microprocessor-Intel-8088-clone-NOS-1991-Kiev/232185848389

$15 NOS, free ship from Russia! Lots of other Russian micros on that page too.

I know there are vintage computer collectors of domestic stuff. I guess collecting a computer from every country adds another layer to the onion.

Is there a Soviet "Stamp" I should acquire? Does it use Bulgarian BASIC? Interpreter from India? Romanian RAM? Estonian EEPROM? Oscillator from Oman? Venezuelan voltage regulator? Firmware from Finland?

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  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    I don't know about the rest but "firmware from Finland", Linux, check.
  • TorTor Posts: 2,010
    edited 2017-06-12 07:12
    From what I've heard about Soviet clone chips you will want the military grade chips, not the commercial ones. The former are fine, the latter junk. But I don't know how to identify them as one or the other.
    erco wrote: »
    [..]Bulgarian BASIC? Interpreter from India? Romanian RAM?[..]
    Almost right.. there's Bulgarian RAM IIRC (and I believe I have some at home).
  • localrogerlocalroger Posts: 3,451
    Does it have the 8088 bug which doesn't finish a REP operation if it's interrupted?
  • YanomaniYanomani Posts: 1,524
    edited 2017-06-13 04:50
    As a statement, I have nothing to do with Russia nor any other country but mine, Brazil, wich in fact, never produced any commercialy-available cpu.

    That said, and despite some ancient (90's) (and unconfirmed) rumours about early USSR-made Intel cpu clones, being marked at the factory, warning for any flawed instructions they had, in a piece-by-piece basis, like pre-ide hard disks, with their bad track lists, Wikipedia shows that perhaps Intel owes something, to russian's ingenuity... :lol:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Pentkovski

    and

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Babaian

    to name a few...

    Henrique
  • AV_TechAV_Tech Posts: 24
    A couple month's ago I bought a Russian Z80 clone. Put it in my MPF-1 and it's running perfect. Directly I buils a device to upload my program's from USB from a W10 laptop to this nice computer bord.
    Ofcourse I buy a white ceramic one with gold pin's. What else ;-)
    Z80_Clone.jpg
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    1632 x 1224 - 467K
  • ozpropdevozpropdev Posts: 2,792
    I remember the Russian "Agat" computer ( Apple ][ clone) that had a cpu that emulated(not very well) a 6502 cpu.
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,256
    "MiG Pilot" remains a favorite book of mine. It's about the Soviet fighter pilot who stole a MiG 25 and defected to the US via Japan in 1976. There's a LOT of backstory detailing life in Russia, mostly terrible conditions. And there are a lot of comparisons between airplanes. While Soviet tech, materials and construction techniques lagged the US, there is a lot of praise for Soviet engineers who got the most out of steel, rivets, vacuum tubes and other older tech. They didn't have much titanium, so they used it sparingly in critical spots, doled out in small strips and patches.

    erco-approved! Still a great read, and the book is slowly appreciating on Ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/JOHN-BARRON-Mig-Pilot-The-Final-Escape-of-Lt-Very-Good-Condition-/182577921947

  • frank freedmanfrank freedman Posts: 1,983
    Wonder if the MPF-1 can be updated to run CP/M? If I use AV_TECHs Z80, will it speak Russian?
  • PublisonPublison Posts: 12,366
    erco wrote: »
    "MiG Pilot" remains a favorite book of mine. It's about the Soviet fighter pilot who stole a MiG 25 and defected to the US via Japan in 1976. There's a LOT of backstory detailing life in Russia, mostly terrible conditions. And there are a lot of comparisons between airplanes. While Soviet tech, materials and construction techniques lagged the US, there is a lot of praise for Soviet engineers who got the most out of steel, rivets, vacuum tubes and other older tech. They didn't have much titanium, so they used it sparingly in critical spots, doled out in small strips and patches.

    erco-approved! Still a great read, and the book is slowly appreciating on Ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/JOHN-BARRON-Mig-Pilot-The-Final-Escape-of-Lt-Very-Good-Condition-/182577921947

    Reminds me of the Firefox movie with Clint Eastwood:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox_(film)

    There was a later book, "Firefox Down" that I read, and should have been a sequel.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox_Down




  • ercoerco Posts: 20,256
    And anyone who doesn't like the book & movie "Hunt for Red Oktober"... well I'll just have to unfriendly you immediately. Zero tolerance.
  • mindrobotsmindrobots Posts: 6,506
    erco wrote: »
    And anyone who doesn't like the book & movie "Hunt for Red Oktober"... well I'll just have to unfriendly you immediately. Zero tolerance.

    "One ping only."

    NOT an Erco''s E-bay Bargain Club card holder...if you need one ping, you need 10!
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,256
    mindrobots wrote: »
    "One ping only."

    NOT an Erco''s E-bay Bargain Club card holder...if you need one ping, you need 10!

    That's my guy! Welcome back, Rick! Hope all's well with you!

  • mindrobotsmindrobots Posts: 6,506
    Thanks!


    All''s well, Buckaroo!

    ...at least I haven't lost another submarine.
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,256
    mindrobots wrote: »
    ...at least I haven't lost another submarine.

    Watch carefully, there will be a quiz!



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