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BYTE Magazine - back in the day!

Hey kids!! Come feast your eyes on how many of your respected elders learned about new computer trends!

I'm wondering if David Betz, Leon Heller, Gordon McComb or any of our other esteemed forum members have any articles buried in these gems???

BYTE Vol 1, Issue 1, September 1975

I don't remember having issue #1 - I'll need to cruise through the archives and see if there's a cover that jumps out at me as my "first" - you should never forget your first BYTE, right??

(On looking at the archive covers, from issue #10 onward looks like where I started. Things start to look unfamiliar starting with issue #10...shortly after they came out with their "Guide to the IBM Personal Computer"...meh, just another PC magazine after that!

Have fun as you go back to a kindler, gentler era in micro-computing......maybe there are even thing to learn/re-learn that you can use today!

Comments

  • GordonMcCombGordonMcComb Posts: 3,366
    edited 2016-04-06 17:45
    Only one or two in Byte. I went more consumer-oriented than Byte usually ran (at least in their earlier days). There were more general interest computing publications at the time, so that's the subject matter I concentrated on.

    https://archive.org/details/computermagazines

    Among those collected on archive.org that I contributed to include Compute, Creative Computing, 80 Micro, Kilobaud/Microcomputing (good 'ol Wayne Green) and I think the odd Computer Shopper here and there. By '84 I was writing primarily for a buyer's guide magazine that's been long gone, Macworld, and a few others. It would be cool if more of these magazines had issues scanned. They're fun to look at.
  • Wow, very cool. My dad was a faithful Byte subscriber during my youth. I recall perusing the issues that he would pass to me and discovering a good mix of glorious amazement and being utterly stumped and trying to comprehend the articles. He was heavy into Pascal programming at the time and I just couldn't wrap my head around the language but loved seeing what he was working on.
  • I wrote a number of articles for BYTE and some more for Dr. Dobbs Journal. I also wrote articles for a magazine no one has probably ever heard of. It started out life as MIPS Magazine and then got renamed to Personal Workstation when MIPS Computer sued us. :-)
  • I always looked forward the the newest edition to see what Steve Ciarcia was up to.
    I still have a copy of the "Best of byte Vol1" kicking around.
    A great magazine.
  • ozpropdev wrote: »
    I always looked forward the the newest edition to see what Steve Ciarcia was up to.
    I still have a copy of the "Best of byte Vol1" kicking around.
    A great magazine.
    Yeah, Steve had some really interesting projects. He continued them in his Circuit Cellar Ink magazine for a while but I think he's sold that to someone else now.

  • I kept a couple of my old Byte issues, I have one from December 1976 even and boy did I go through hoops to get hold of these magazines back then when I was just getting into microprocessors. The mags were also great for the ads and in fact some of the ads were so great that they were incredible in the true sense of the word (vaporware).

    There's also an ad from tri-tek with a rather buxom "AMPL'ANNY' skating figure that may have inclined you to go buy that VMP1 N-channel MOSFET in a TO-3 package that could switch one amp in 5ns for only $9.75 (in '75 dollars ~= $50)!!! In those days computers could do ANYTHING, you were only limited by your imagination, and of course software, and of course memory etc etc.
  • David Betz wrote: »
    ozpropdev wrote: »
    I always looked forward the the newest edition to see what Steve Ciarcia was up to.
    I still have a copy of the "Best of byte Vol1" kicking around.
    A great magazine.
    Yeah, Steve had some really interesting projects. He continued them in his Circuit Cellar Ink magazine for a while but I think he's sold that to someone else now.

    I thought I read last year that he was taking it back somehow!

    I have MANY issues stashed away in wooden crates somewhere - not sure how many years! I was an avid fan!!
  • Paul Sr. wrote: »
    David Betz wrote: »
    ozpropdev wrote: »
    I always looked forward the the newest edition to see what Steve Ciarcia was up to.
    I still have a copy of the "Best of byte Vol1" kicking around.
    A great magazine.
    Yeah, Steve had some really interesting projects. He continued them in his Circuit Cellar Ink magazine for a while but I think he's sold that to someone else now.

    I thought I read last year that he was taking it back somehow!

    I have MANY issues stashed away in wooden crates somewhere - not sure how many years! I was an avid fan!!
    Ah, yes. I believe you are right about that.

  • ozpropdev wrote: »
    I always looked forward the the newest edition to see what Steve Ciarcia was up to.
    I still have a copy of the "Best of byte Vol1" kicking around.
    A great magazine.

    I have that same one. Made it through 8 moves. :)

  • TorTor Posts: 2,010
    BYTE was great, including the ads (compare that to all the irrelevant web ads.. ads *can* be done well, but websites don't understand that at all). But eventually Byte changed the same way nearly all magazines changed: all tech info disappeared and the whole magazine was only about reviewing "applications", which weren't even compilers for the most part. Not sure when that happened, last half of the eighties maybe.. around 1990 the transformation was all complete for sure, and unfortunately most copies I have left are from that time. I stopped reading Byte by then.
    Personal Computer World (PCW) was another great magazine, I bought it from the first issue (1978) and kept it up until they, too, changed to just an application review magazine. Then I stopped my subscription. Unfortunately I at some point dumped all my PCW copies due to space problems (again with a couple of the non-interesting late ones left). And PCW was never scanned, unlike Byte and other American magazines. But all is not lost: I said I had dumped all my PCW issues, but just before I left for Japan I found a whole stack of old ones, so apparently I didn't dump *everything*.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 7,620
    edited 2016-04-07 19:17
    I subscribed to Byte and DDJ, a couple of years after they started. I used to get PCW every month, as well. I no longer have any of them.
  • Only one or two in Byte. I went more consumer-oriented than Byte usually ran (at least in their earlier days). There were more general interest computing publications at the time, so that's the subject matter I concentrated on.

    https://archive.org/details/computermagazines

    Among those collected on archive.org that I contributed to include Compute, Creative Computing, 80 Micro, Kilobaud/Microcomputing (good 'ol Wayne Green) and I think the odd Computer Shopper here and there. By '84 I was writing primarily for a buyer's guide magazine that's been long gone, Macworld, and a few others. It would be cool if more of these magazines had issues scanned. They're fun to look at.

    Wow, I actually remember many of those covers...weird.
  • BTW guys, you do realize don't you that you can download decades of pdf scans of Byte magazine, they even have a '78 Kilobaud in there too!
  • Cluso99Cluso99 Posts: 18,069
    Byte Magazine brings backs lots of pleasant memories.
    It was difficult in the early days to regularly buy Byte from the newsagency. Then I was able to get the local newsagency to reserve me a copy before it was possible to subscribe with a reasonable shipping price and timeliness. Sadly all my copies, plus other mags like Dr Dobbs etc were put in the recycle bins when we moved in 2001.

    How many remember the April Fools joke of the Printergrated Circuit ? Not sure which mag ran this.

    At the same time as all this was happening, I had my own mini/mainframe in my airconditioned garage. I really should dig out those old photos - seriously, the mini was the length of my garage!
  • Cluso99 wrote: »

    How many remember the April Fools joke of the Printergrated Circuit ? Not sure which mag ran this.

    At the same time as all this was happening, I had my own mini/mainframe in my airconditioned garage. I really should dig out those old photos - seriously, the mini was the length of my garage!

    I think that was Electronics Australia or perhaps it was Electronics Today (International) that had printed the page with new technology ink that could create an integrated circuit on paper!!!! WOW! So totally impressive, you just wanted to get the battery and meter out to check it. Wait a minute......what's the date again?......... :)

    I had a friend who showed me the old IBM360 mainframe system he bought from a bank for $500 back in the early 80's. He had it parked under his high-set house, ALL of under his house!!!! Looked great though. The problem was paying to get the electrical supply upgraded enough to power the thing assuming all the units were able to be reconnected. Then there would be the problem with the missus when the power bill arrived........

  • Cluso99 wrote: »


    I had a friend who showed me the old IBM360 mainframe system he bought from a bank for $500 back in the early 80's.

    I learned Basic on a 360 albeit on a mainframe connected from my high school to a university in town. I got to see the main frame once, but most of the time, we only knew it through a golf ball Selectric.
  • Cluso99Cluso99 Posts: 18,069
    Cluso99 wrote: »

    How many remember the April Fools joke of the Printergrated Circuit ? Not sure which mag ran this.

    At the same time as all this was happening, I had my own mini/mainframe in my airconditioned garage. I really should dig out those old photos - seriously, the mini was the length of my garage!

    I think that was Electronics Australia or perhaps it was Electronics Today (International) that had printed the page with new technology ink that could create an integrated circuit on paper!!!! WOW! So totally impressive, you just wanted to get the battery and meter out to check it. Wait a minute......what's the date again?......... :)

    I had a friend who showed me the old IBM360 mainframe system he bought from a bank for $500 back in the early 80's. He had it parked under his high-set house, ALL of under his house!!!! Looked great though. The problem was paying to get the electrical supply upgraded enough to power the thing assuming all the units were able to be reconnected. Then there would be the problem with the missus when the power bill arrived........
    Unfortunately my Singer/ICL System Ten cost way more than that. It was only 18 months old when I bought it (1977) and was still totally current. But alas, when I sold it for scrap in 2001 it was only worth ~$500, all 3 tons of it ;) The printer was the heaviest part of it!
    Had to power each disc drive up separately as the initial surge was 30A @ 240Vac. Each disc drive was 10MB (removable 6 x 19" platters), the size of a washing machine, and cost $16,000 new. How things have changed!
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,256
    Cluso99 wrote: »
    Had to power each disc drive up separately as the initial surge was 30A @ 240Vac. Each disc drive was 10MB (removable 6 x 19" platters), the size of a washing machine, and cost $16,000 new. How things have changed!

    OMG that's hysterical. It's a wonder we ever got computers in space. The pendulum has swung the other way now. These days I worry about losing a 64 GB micro SD card. Oops, get another one for $5.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Class-10-64GB-Micro-SD-SDHC-TF-Memory-Card-w-SD-Adapter-For-Smart-Phones-Tablet-/262372376157
  • erco wrote: »
    These days I worry about losing a 64 GB micro SD card. Oops, get another one for $5.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Class-10-64GB-Micro-SD-SDHC-TF-Memory-Card-w-SD-Adapter-For-Smart-Phones-Tablet-/262372376157

    That's probably why you would "lose" them....64GB Class 10 for $5 one off.....that can't possibly be a real 64GB memory, can it? (and I'm used to really good prices on memory too)
  • WhitWhit Posts: 4,191
    Thanks so much for posting this - what fun!
  • Cluso99Cluso99 Posts: 18,069
    edited 2016-04-08 05:57
    erco wrote: »
    Cluso99 wrote: »
    Had to power each disc drive up separately as the initial surge was 30A @ 240Vac. Each disc drive was 10MB (removable 6 x 19" platters), the size of a washing machine, and cost $16,000 new. How things have changed!

    OMG that's hysterical. It's a wonder we ever got computers in space. The pendulum has swung the other way now. These days I worry about losing a 64 GB micro SD card. Oops, get another one for $5.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Class-10-64GB-Micro-SD-SDHC-TF-Memory-Card-w-SD-Adapter-For-Smart-Phones-Tablet-/262372376157

    Today's problem is that ~22nm and finer are not guaranteed to last > 10 years because the metal layer track widths are too fine to remain stable for longer. Apparently the metal is so fine it flows over time as if it is a liquid.
    Best not to plan space missions, satellites, planes, etc for >10 years using the latest technology. Bet there are a lot that don't know this and will get caught.

    Voyager 1 & 2 are nearly 40 years, plus the build time of ??? years.
    One of the Mars Rovers is over 12 years on Mars, plus trip to get there and build time.
    New Horizons is about 10 years (the Pluto mission).
    Space Station ??? years.
    Hubble Telescope ??? years.
  • What I want is that Mars Rover to wander past the latest arrival. They are constantly taking selfie shots, why not take them of each other. Which in fact is more the touristy thing to do.

    And incidentally we've only had integrated circuits onboard any space craft since the Apollo missions, and possibly late Gemini. And then highly specialized. Look up rad hard in the methods of making sure they work up there.

  • GordonMcCombGordonMcComb Posts: 3,366
    edited 2016-04-08 17:42
    What I want is that Mars Rover to wander past the latest arrival. They are constantly taking selfie shots, why not take them of each other.

    Here's why:

    mars-comic.jpg
  • "Recycling Used ICs".

    With a blowtorch and pliers.

    I wonder if that would still work for SMT chips :)

    Regarding the System/360... it was a sad day when they tore apart (literally) the model 50 I learned on... for the gold in the connectors. I could have bought one of the circuit modules for $5 but being a poor student, I passed.
  • What I want is that Mars Rover to wander past the latest arrival. They are constantly taking selfie shots, why not take them of each other.

    Here's why:

    mars-comic.jpg

    Thank you, that explains most of it.

    Enjoy!

    Mike
  • Peter JakackiPeter Jakacki Posts: 10,193
    edited 2016-04-09 00:12
    If the Martians really have three eyes and six arms then why are they still bipedal (and hoofed) and why are aliens always stark naked!? (and completely neutered)

    If they had seen any Hollywood action movies the Martians would know they could just hack all the sensors with dummy data and mission impossible control would be none the wiser.
  • Problem being is that I know that Martians do not look like that. (Think of the ones from "Red Planet", or the ones that the Doctor always had problems with.)

    Besides, that was funny several years earlier.

    ---
    Incidentally erco why are all of your robots at Gordon's place watching TV?
  • BTW guys, you do realize don't you that you can download decades of pdf scans of Byte magazine, they even have a '78 Kilobaud in there too!

    Thanks for that link, finally got every one of them using a phone and limited 3G. Paged through every one from beginning to end, It was a great look back in time, the birth of home computing and just how it evolved. Byte news stand price started out @ $1.50 US and ended up in these files @ $3.99 per copy. Byte count started out @ around 60mb and the later edition's were around 300mb, most of that increase was advertisement. Not to interesting after 86 and the migration to IBM and compatables.
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