Vista Party @ erco's: Installing Update 1 of 97
erco
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I'm doing the "free" Win10 upgrade (from Win8) to a 2007 Compaq desktop (came with XP) but it ain't really free, I'm paying dearly with hours of time. Win8 crashed with the dreaded endless repair loop. So I'm starting all over with a brand new 1TB HD. Had to start with the original XP restore disks, which took a while. But XP wouldn't upgrade direct to 8, so I used the Vista upgrade, which won't let me download Win8 until after Vista downloads & installs 97 updates (possibly more, currently on update #73!). Then Lord knows how much longer to install Win 8, then Win 10. Quite the party! At least it's a low-priority background task I just look in on occasionally. It's a hoot seeing the original low-res start screens on XP & Vista. A blast from the past.
This process reminded me that I have an extra HD with Win8 on it. I paid the $35 upgrade fee to put Win8 on my wife's computer, which she promptly rejected, so she went back to Win7. Eventually she'll have to go straight to Win10, so I can use her Win8 product key on another computer to ultimately get a free Win10 upgrade. I wonder if my little old Acer Aspire netbook (also XP) is a worthy candidate. I've seen that those can run Win10.
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/71296/20150723/this-old-acer-aspire-one-can-handle-windows-10-video.htm
Oops, gotta go, the desktop is restarting again. How exciting!
Edit: At least 16 +7 more Vista updates required, plus it looks like from Vista I can only go to Win8, then another time-consuming step to go to Win8.1, which is required for this not-so-free upgrade to Win10.
This process reminded me that I have an extra HD with Win8 on it. I paid the $35 upgrade fee to put Win8 on my wife's computer, which she promptly rejected, so she went back to Win7. Eventually she'll have to go straight to Win10, so I can use her Win8 product key on another computer to ultimately get a free Win10 upgrade. I wonder if my little old Acer Aspire netbook (also XP) is a worthy candidate. I've seen that those can run Win10.
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/71296/20150723/this-old-acer-aspire-one-can-handle-windows-10-video.htm
Oops, gotta go, the desktop is restarting again. How exciting!
Edit: At least 16 +7 more Vista updates required, plus it looks like from Vista I can only go to Win8, then another time-consuming step to go to Win8.1, which is required for this not-so-free upgrade to Win10.
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I had to go through a similar process recently, before Win10 was announced. I have Vista upgrade disks so did the trick of installing without a key, then re-installing Vista using the upgrade key. From there used a Win8 upgrade key I purchased to get there, then did the 8.1 upgrade, and finally went to Win10 in the insider program. This is a home-built tower system running an Asus P5K-VM motherboard, released around 2006-7.
I've also two HP DV6609WM laptops from early Vista era. They are Athlon 64 X2 and run Win10 as well as they did Vista. Only real issues with them are HP doesn't offer any drivers for anything newer than Vista and sometimes they don't want to wake from sleep. The former was taken care of by installing Vista era drivers for things Win10 didn't support out of the box or on Windows Update, and the latter is an issue I'm still finagling with but have worked around by either setting them to not sleep or to go to hibernate.
Well, I wish you good luck.
-Phil
Need. More. Beer.
Something I cant stress enough and one of the main reasons I run everything in a shell ....
McAfee isn't quite enough, you need to cross correlate your efforts with "SpyBot Search and destroy"
On another note: Erco, how close were you to that earthquake? .... We had a 4.3 this morning in Oklahoma that shook the house pretty good about 2 miles from the epicenter and knocked our power out for about 3 hours
Didn't feel anything except love & joy for Microsoft today, thanks...
However.... Dell tells me that this laptop is not capable of running Windows 10. It will run Windows 8.1 with disinterest. But not Windows 10.
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_vista-update/windows-vista-service-pack-1-wont-install/007a87a0-0d5a-4aad-880a-c7f343b50205
On the flip side, I have spent a few hours this week debugging a Windows 98 machine on a piece of equipment. It's looking to be a motherboard or flaky power supply issue, so the machine is probably going to end up as scrap very soon (it's custom hardware so a newer motherboard or OS won't work)
System requirements for Win10 are mostly identical to Win8/8.1... and actually a little relaxed compared to 7.
OS: Windows 7 SP1 or Windows 8.1 Update.
Processor: 1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster processor or SoC
RAM: 1 gigabyte (GB) for 32-bit or 2 GB for 64-bit
Hard disk space: 16 GB for 32-bit OS 20 GB for 64-bit OS
Graphics card: DirectX 9 or later with WDDM 1.0 driver
Display: 800x600 or higher
Downloading SP2 now. It's fun, I keep telling myself.
That is good. But I thought people were avoiding Win 10 because it's a big spy bot trojan indistinguishable from malware:
http://bgr.com/2015/07/31/windows-10-upgrade-spying-how-to-opt-out/
Perhaps I have to get one and see for myself.
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I really don't understand everyone's resistance to upgrading. I upgraded a 6 year old Dell from 8.1 and it runs just as well as it did before.
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FireNWater: I don't really have anything specifically against Windows 10, just that I have no issues with all of my systems, so the last thing I want is to create one from a "free upgrade". I have a lot of hardware that spans a decent amount of years, so I still need some legacy style support.
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_8-windows_install/windows-8-upgrade-we-cant-connect-right-now-please/dc570767-5e8a-4fda-b1f0-dbb2cc46bf0e?auth=1
Silly me, I thought only vintage ham gear could be called boat anchors! http://www.dxzone.com/dx2836/boatanchor-manual-archive-bama.html
Roger that . . . I have a CNC machine running XP that works "just so" that won't be getting upgraded. I'll probably take it "off the grid" and use USB's to transfer the G-Code.
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I haven't used W10 yet, however disinterest has only increased as time and MS's bumbling goes on.
Work gave me a laptop with the option of going with W8.1 which I unfortunately took.
Even with Classic Shell, its still a bit of a PITA, and I prefer still W7 Ult with SSD I use in the CD expansion slot.
Aside from Cortana's Blade Runner-esque UI, or future DX12 gaming, I haven't heard of anything mind blowing worth the effort, aggravation, loss of privacy potential, etc, etc.
Jim
Seems the mods don't care about the forum members anymore.