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OBEX won't have me

ErlendErlend Posts: 612
edited 2015-11-07 15:36 in General Discussion
Now I want to share some code. Problem is, I am not allowed in. I've tried with my Forum user & passw, I've tried the 'forgot password' option, and I've tried Register New User. None of them will allow me in.
Is there a magic trick?
Maybe OBEX is tired and Github is wired, I don't know - but I have found no information that it has been abandoned.

Erlend

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  • PublisonPublison Posts: 12,366
    Did you get instructions sent to your email address after signing up as a new user?
  • PublisonPublison Posts: 12,366
    I'm not sure Parallax monitors requests for new OBEX users on the weekend. That's not part of my Moderator status. I wish it was, I would grant the request.

  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    edited 2015-11-07 16:50
    OBEX is tired and github is wired. This suggests putting your project up on github and when you get access to the OBEX don't put anything there but a description and a link to the gihub project.

    This gets you a great tool with which to manage your project, share it and even collaborate with others on any bug fixes/improvements. Whilst not having to refresh the package on OBEX all the time.

    Or there is bitbucket of course.
  • ErlendErlend Posts: 612
    Publison wrote: »
    Did you get instructions sent to your email address after signing up as a new user?
    I does act as if it sends one, but nothing actually happen. Just for test, I changed my email in my Forum account just now - and it worked fine.

    GitHub, yeah I know, but it should not be in desperation :/

    Erlend

  • PublisonPublison Posts: 12,366
    Erlend wrote: »
    Publison wrote: »
    Did you get instructions sent to your email address after signing up as a new user?
    I does act as if it sends one, but nothing actually happen. Just for test, I changed my email in my Forum account just now - and it worked fine.

    GitHub, yeah I know, but it should not be in desperation :/

    Erlend
    That's good news.

    I'm still waiting on an email for a new user account.

  • cbmeekscbmeeks Posts: 634
    I second the GitHub's.

    Why doesn't Parallax just retire the OBEX?

    They could maybe put their official code repos into a Parallax GitHub account and offer links to other, approved developers for 3rd party repos.
  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    Erlend,
    GitHub, yeah I know, but it should not be in desperation
    Quite so. No desperation. Give up the old OBEX and embrace the new Github with enthusiasm.

  • DavidZemonDavidZemon Posts: 2,973
    The obex has a very specific appeal: it is well organized, and specific to the Propeller. Now, if only the Obex were re-implemented using a Parallax-hosted gitlab server for project storage instead of zips, that would be ideal I think.
  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    DavidZemon,

    Yep, we have been campaigning for a git based OBEX for years now. It will come to pass, one day.
  • Courtney JacobsCourtney Jacobs Posts: 903
    Erlend,

    IT has reset your user account settings. Please look for an email from OBEX on setting up a new password.

    If the issue continues, please email webmaster@parallax.com directly for more assistance.
  • ErlendErlend Posts: 612
    Courtney, thanks. I will do that.

    Erlend
  • Cluso99Cluso99 Posts: 18,069
    The OBEX was easier IMHO. GitHub is complex.
  • ErlendErlend Posts: 612
    edited 2015-11-12 07:46
    I do agree, I tried to go GitHub before the summer. It was no fun and I did not succeed, so I put it aside for a while. I am building up courage to have an other go at it soon. There are loads of tutorials, but I have found no good ones. Why do it? - because that is the way things are going. Still, OBEX is good because it is such a low-threshold resource for a lot of Spin'ers. I want to pay back to OBEX after all the help it has been to me, by putting my own objects there.

    Erlend
  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    Certainly git is more complex than posting a zip file some place. It has to be, it actually does something for you.

    On the other hand for day to day use it's very easy, only a handful of simple commands to get used to. As I describe here: http://forums.parallax.com/discussion/comment/1354117/#Comment_1354117

    I think bitbucket (Atlasian) perhaps has the best tutorials https://www.atlassian.com/git/tutorials/ Github has similar of course.

    You guys are programmers, you think in Spin and PASM and whatever else. I don't believe git is beyond you. I do believe a little time invested in it is worth it. It brings great peace of mind. No more worries about breaking your code, or where is that last working version I had? Or What did I do last? And so on and so on. That's before we even think about more than one person contributing to a project.

    Don't forget. Once you have your project up on github or bitbucket it does not matter what disaster or mess you make of your local repository. You can always nuke it. Delete it entirely and clone it again. In the worst case scenario you are no worse off than having a blob in OBEX.

    No we don't do git because "that is the way things are going". That is the way things are going, github, bitbucket etc because we were all doing git for a long time already. It had so many advantages over all preceding source management systems. Easy enough to use for even the smallest personal projects, not a nightmare you have to use because your project manager says so :)



  • Cluso99Cluso99 Posts: 18,069
    I prefer to manage my own software, and backups. I don't need or want it to be in the cloud. That just slows me down. I understand got and bit bucket is great for multiple users editing code. But it's not happening here so I don't need it.
    As far as posting code, the obex is simplest for me,apart from the forum before it's ready for obex.

    As for that's the way it's going, just because everyone starts jumping off bridges doesn't mean I am going to follow. Same applies for P2... Everyone is going ARM, so best not do a P2 ;)
  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    edited 2015-11-12 12:15
    Backups are something else. I'm not sure relying on git for backups is such a great idea. However I do at the moment because I have my repos pulled to so many different machines in different places. If github is backing things up correctly that is a bonus.

    One need not use Github or Bitbucket or "cloud" anything. For a long time I have had a git server running on a spare PC. In fact you don't even need that. Just use git locally. 
    $ cd myExistingProject
$ git init
    ...it's not happening here so I don't need it.
    My contention is that even for a small, one man, project a quick git add/commit is a lot more convenient than having to manually copy and version all your files as you go. You don't need a history that can be rolled back in an instant with a log of what you were doing when but I find it very helpful and convenient. Especially if I put a project down for a few weeks and then can't remember exactly where I was when I get back to it.
    Everyone is going ARM, so best not do a P2
    Yeah, that's why I'm going MIPS :)http://vocore.io/store/index

    Any chance you could knock up a Prop board to match the VoCore form factor?




  • ErlendErlend Posts: 612
    edited 2015-11-12 17:48
    Cluso99 wrote: »
    I prefer to manage my own software, and backups. I don't need or want it to be in the cloud. That just slows me down. I understand got and bit bucket is great for multiple users editing code. But it's not happening here so I don't need it.
    As far as posting code, the obex is simplest for me,apart from the forum before it's ready for obex.

    As for that's the way it's going, just because everyone starts jumping off bridges doesn't mean I am going to follow. Same applies for P2... Everyone is going ARM, so best not do a P2 ;)
    I like to be hands on, so in one ARM I have C, and in the other ARM I have Python. Both let me fly around in the Cloud and have fun. It is the Propeller though that every time gives me a quick take-off and let me take a Spin within minutes from start.

    My code at present is in Dropbox folders together with all the other Propeller Tool stuff. So I am always synch. I am fine. It's just that I believe the Open Source way of things is so powerful that I need to be and want to be part of it, even if GritHub it is I have to learn.

    Erlend

  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    Awesome!
  • Cluso99Cluso99 Posts: 18,069
    Heater. wrote: »
    ..... Yeah, that's why I'm going MIPS :)http://vocore.io/store/index

    Any chance you could knock up a Prop board to match the VoCore form factor?
    Sure. What do you want on it? 1"x1" so its just like my original CpuBlade but with 0.05" spaced headers.
    I just had a quick look at vocore. What do you want to do with the prop? Combine with the complete VoCore?? or replace the cpu???
  • Cluso99Cluso99 Posts: 18,069
    heater,
    Looked some more. Presume you want to replace the dock with Prop + uSD board and connect one of the serial ports and DTR/GPIO#?? to reset the prop.
    Is this sort of what you are after?
  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    Clusso,

    No idea, I don't have the VoCore to play with yet. Certainly a VoCore board, no dock, plus a Prop board would be neat.

    Anyway I'm now thinking we should gear up for using LoRa with Pprop boards. Very soon LoRa wireless is going to be everywhere what with Microchip and others getting into making LoRa modules.
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