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New Forum Issue: Forum links did NOT get converted.

Here's a post I made that has an internal forum link:
Phase Detection with Modulated Return Signals?

The link did not get converted to point to the new forum, and the old link redirects to this forum's home page. As a consequence, the one good thing I thought the new forum had going for it has also failed.
I seriously do not see any reason to post anything of substance to the forum until either we get it rolled back to the old forum, or some miracle occurs and Parallax is able to get this thing to work. I'm not holding my breath for the latter, though. Seriously, guys, give us the old forum back! There's no shame in retreat, but there is in stubbornness.
-Phil

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  • PublisonPublison Posts: 12,366
    edited 2015-06-30 16:25
    Phil, I was just able to link with the link you supplied, but darned if I can like to most of you  other threads you  started.

    EDIT: You may have had that open in another tab. I hade the same happen when I had you Triangulation with Ping Array open from three days ago. I went to go to the next page, and got new forum home page.


  • Publison,
    It's not the link in my post above, but the link at that link that did not get converted:
    http://forums.parallax.com/showthread.php/105674

    -Phil
  • Gottcha. It's the link in the post you referred to. Sad.
  • This is my main complaint with the forum upgrade. Most everything else will get resolved over time, but I have several project threads that reference other threads for inspiration, code, or other specifics and they are now defunct. What's worse, is some of the references I made do not include enough text details to figure out what the post is even titled so you can find it.

    Once the migration dust settles, I will begin migrating my project threads over to a wordpress site on some of my own web space. I have a lot invested into project threads that only exist on these forums and to have them degrade from migrations is unacceptable in my opinion. I already lost some mini projects that were in my blogs.

    see you guys in a couple weeks..........
  • jmgjmg Posts: 15,173
    edited 2015-06-30 21:26
    Here's a post I made that has an internal forum link:
    Phase Detection with Modulated Return Signals?

    The link did not get converted to point to the new forum, and the old link redirects to this forum's home page. As a consequence, the one good thing I thought the new forum had going for it has also failed.

    Hopefully, quite soon, someone will do a link-sweep pass.
    I'm curious how you created the first link, as I can find no way to reference a individual post in this new forum ?Addit: Ah.. just spotted hidden under the timestamp of any post is thishttp://forums.parallax.com/discussion/comment/1334177/#Comment_1334177
  • GordonMcCombGordonMcComb Posts: 3,366
    edited 2015-06-30 22:31

    Hopefully, quite soon, someone will do a link-sweep pass.
    That's about the only thing they can do at this point, though the time for it was during the migration, not after the fact. Now, any mangling that a misbehaving script might make to the links will do so on a live forum. During the migration the worst thing would be they'd have to rerun the scripts to pull the data from the old forum.
  • jmgjmg Posts: 15,173
    This post sounds like the links are not supposed to be broken / fail by mapping to home page.
    http://forums.parallax.com/discussion/comment/1334216/#Comment_1334216

    so maybe that can be quickly fixed, so as not to confuse Google engines in the meantime ?
  • GordonMcCombGordonMcComb Posts: 3,366
    edited 2015-06-30 23:33
    Yes, I read that too, and Bump's (pre-migration) notice that links should re-direct. If they can fix it, the right RegEx should do it, that would be great for outside links coming in. 
    It would have been better to have rewritten the links in message bodies during the migration, but we'll take anything at this point. The reason to have revised the links in the messages is that Google uses those as internal link references, and gives some SEO juice to them. It won't if it always sees these links are redirected, which they would (and should) be. 
  • The rewrite rules seem to be having an issue; I am looking into it.
  • GordonMcCombGordonMcComb Posts: 3,366
    edited 2015-07-01 00:02
    Sounds good.
    For in-message links, since the rewriting wasn't done in the data, maybe consider adding a hook into the HTML parser. Not entirely sure what Vanilla offers, but it probably can look for, and rewrite, URLs in link tags without much additional server load (it's already parsing pages as it is). That way, links inside messages are updated before anyone -- user, Google -- sees it. 
    A benefit of this approach is that it returns the opportunity to get some juice on the internal links. Those links, already parsed and updated, don't need any further server URL rewriting.
    I think this is something that can be addressed with some clever coding. Still remaining on my list is the limited categories. Really, it's a show-stopper for me and my participation here. Thus why I have been yammering about it so much.
  • Tracy AllenTracy Allen Posts: 6,664
    edited 2015-07-01 05:43
    +1 on this issue.  What Andrew said.  It seems like Deja Vu all over.  The Vanilla site claims that migration will retain SEO. 
    http://vanillaforums.com/resources/migration-best-practices
    Did we do that?

  • GordonMcCombGordonMcComb Posts: 3,366
    edited 2015-07-01 14:48
    Currently no, all SEO is lost, and if the rewrite rule is not fixed soon (days, not weeks), the forum will be penalized due its use of "spammy" practice or redirecting all gone links to a single page.
    #3 in that list was telling. Did we do this soft launch thing? Stakeholders -- moderators like you -- should have been involved in a beta. By the responses here, that didn't happen. Parallax is used to a testing phase, and as painful as it can be, it always results in a better product in the end.
  • RDL2004RDL2004 Posts: 2,554
    edited 2015-07-01 15:14
    Wow, it's as if no one at Parallax even saw that page.


    http://vanillaforums.com/resources/migration-best-practices

  • jmgjmg Posts: 15,173
    Now fixed :http://forums.parallax.com/discussion/161402/old-forum-links

    Links now correctly being redirected as originally intended.
  • Yup, it works now. Thanks, Bump & Co.
    -Phil
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