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Spring cleaning..what to toss...what to keep.

Too_Many_ToolsToo_Many_Tools Posts: 765
edited 2015-05-31 08:32 in General Discussion
It's been awhile since I have culled my collection of electronics, computer electronics and test equipment....too much stuff for too little space.

So when you do a "spring cleaning" of your electronics collection, how do you decide what to keep and what to toss/recycle?

Thanks
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  • WBA ConsultingWBA Consulting Posts: 2,934
    edited 2015-05-18 15:56
    That's an age old question around here.... LOL Anyhow, my decision making comes down to three things:

    1) Why do I have it?
    Is it for a project idea? Was it given to me and I think it's neat? Did I buy it for some project? Is it one of those eventually will need it but never know type items?

    2) Will I use it?
    Will I ever get around to making the project idea I answered for #1? Do I need other parts, code, or $$ to make use of it?

    3) Can I sell it to buy something else more useful to my active projects?
    Can I use the funds from selling it to buy project items for something I will get around to?

    A lot of my answers in my latest round of spring cleaning went like this:
    1: for a neat project idea
    2: Will probably never get around to the idea because I have too many others that are better
    3: Yes, lots=eBay/Forums pile, Not much or No=HackerLab donation pile

    Since I recently re-did my workbench, I discovered I have a lot of items that are begging for a Parallax Expo Freebie table. Since those are long gone, I am thinking of making some drops at the newly opened Rocklin Hacker Lab. I will eventually have a new spring cleaning post in the classifieds with items for sale and some "grab bags" for the cost of shipping (I stuff a ton of items into priority mail flat rate boxes, so $6 gets you a good selection of trinkets)
  • Hal AlbachHal Albach Posts: 747
    edited 2015-05-18 16:51
    I have found that consuming a significant quantity of adult beverages prior to engaging in "what to keep - what to toss" aids tremendously in skewing the balance towards the toss column. Learned this from a fellow co-worker who had to move from a large repair shop to a much smaller one.,
  • frank freedmanfrank freedman Posts: 1,983
    edited 2015-05-18 17:01
    Nice, but I am a major pack-rat, even air lifting cool SMT chips off a board before disposing of it. I would likely need significant quantities of the appropriate liquid lube and the wife selecting the toss items to really make a significant dent in the pile.

    Next few days should see a )5+/-12V and +24V supply salvaged placed into a desk top box. GIG?. I guess


    FF
  • xanaduxanadu Posts: 3,347
    edited 2015-05-18 17:48
    Keep as much as you can! Build a small storage shed if you have to. You can squeeze tons of components in those cabinets over the sink.
  • GordonMcCombGordonMcComb Posts: 3,366
    edited 2015-05-18 18:05
    I never "toss" any of it, but I try to find it a good home. Last time, a few months ago, a bunch of extra stuff ended up in the back of Erco's PT Cruiser.

    I still have more. I'm going to talk to Xanadu about making a home for it, now that he has lots of office space.
  • xanaduxanadu Posts: 3,347
    edited 2015-05-18 18:29
    If only we had this conversation six months ago. Moderators, this is going outside of ethical robotics boundaries so please turn away. Anyone offended by random acts of tossing robots shouldn't read it.

    Six months ago I sent the chassis, motors and wheels of my largest robot ever to recycle because it was taking up too much space. I tried selling it locally too. Yes, largest robot.

    Needless to say I absolutely regret that.

    Gordon you have some VIP space reserved ;)
  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    edited 2015-05-19 04:09
    I support the "don't throw it away, find it a good home" idea.

    Over the years I have binned many things, usually under duress from parents or 'her in doors. So often I have regretted doing so later. One of the worst cases being the disposal of 10 years worth of Wireless World magazines from the late 1960's early 70's.

    At least if these things had gone to a good home I would have the satisfaction of knowing that somebody got some use or pleasure out of them.
  • Hal AlbachHal Albach Posts: 747
    edited 2015-05-19 06:55
    The word "toss" seems to take on several meanings here. I, too, would never throw into the trash usable technology items no matter the amount of, er, lubricant, but rather "toss" them over to someone else who wants them and can make a home for them.
  • mindrobotsmindrobots Posts: 6,506
    edited 2015-05-19 07:05
    Women's shoe boxes - put all your "extra" goodies in women's shoe boxes and place them in the back of your wife's closet. The best hiding place is often in plain sight of the enemy! :D
  • frank freedmanfrank freedman Posts: 1,983
    edited 2015-05-19 09:41
    Uh, Rick, what's that shadow over your shoulder? The what? Oh, so busted!!!!!
  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    edited 2015-05-19 09:52
    Strangely enough I get the feeling that a lot of my "junk" has been hidden away in shoe boxes some place. Things just disappear. Usually after a house cleaning episode. Sometimes, months or years later I find stuff that has been tidied away and stashed in odd places.

    Hmmm...I'm currently still paying every month to keep a pile of stuff in storage where it found itself during our last house move. "You are not bringing that junk in here". Perhaps I should fetch it out of store and put it up for grabs.
  • GordonMcCombGordonMcComb Posts: 3,366
    edited 2015-05-19 10:52
    I find it liberating to get rid of stuff I no longer use. I figure if I forgot I have it, and still can't think of a project for it, there's no sense keeping it.

    Some things, like magazines or books, I'll donate. I had a collection of old (1950s) SAMS TV service manuals. I found a 'TV museum' on the Web and they were thrilled to get them.

    I used to keep my large collection of resistors and capacitors in giant parts bin drawers. Then I realized I only ever used a couple of standard values anyway, so my parts bins went from five or six to just one. Truth be told, some of the aluminum electrolytic caps I've been saving all these years were from Olson's, and I bought them in the mid 1970s. I mean, really?

    Erco actually didn't take all the stuff I offered. Silly him. In one bag I had a dozen or more brand new PC mount 5V DPDT relays. The guy's slipping!
  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2015-05-19 12:01
    mindrobots wrote: »
    Women's shoe boxes - put all your "extra" goodies in women's shoe boxes and place them in the back of your wife's closet. The best hiding place is often in plain sight of the enemy! :D

    Women's shoe boxes are hard to come by. When a woman buys a pair of shoes, she want the box to store them in. But when a man buys a pair of shoes, he just wants the shoes.

    You might find a shoe store that is will to give you shoe boxes that are left behind by customers that don't want them. But I bet the majority will be men's shoes.
  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    edited 2015-05-19 12:17
    Loopy,
    When a woman buys a pair of shoes, she want the box to store them in.
    That is not my experience.

    Then there is the case of Imelda Marcos:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2207353/Imelda-Marcos-legendary-3-000-plus-shoe-collection-destroyed-termites-floods-neglect.html
  • GadgetmanGadgetman Posts: 2,436
    edited 2015-05-19 12:54
    I use IKEA boxes...

    Their Hyfs series may be good for those who prefer shoeboxes, but I go for their 'Samla' series.
    (Samla actually means 'to collect'... )
    One for breadboards, one for wires, one for motors, one for microcontrollers, one for LEDs and LED assemblies, and so on...
    I think I may need to visit IKEA again soon, to get a dozen or two more boxes...

    Anyway...
    Any interesting vintage electronics or books in the pile?
    I collect home computers, PDAs, consoles, accessories, diagnostics tools, the weird and the wonderful,,,
  • Ron CzapalaRon Czapala Posts: 2,418
    edited 2015-05-19 14:43
    What to do with out transformers??

    I have collected ten 110V Primary transformers with secondary voltages ranging from 6 to 45 volts
    and twenty wall-wart transformers - some with AC outputs and some with DC outputs (regulated and non-regulated).

    Many of them are useful but some need to go - e.g. 45VAC secondary,

    I hate to throw them away but don't want to spend hours trying to save the cooper.

    I wonder if any recycle sites accept them...
  • prof_brainoprof_braino Posts: 4,313
    edited 2015-05-19 20:36
    how do you decide what to keep and what to toss/recycle?

    If I haven't touched it in a year (other than get at something underneath it), I toss it. Unless its part of a project that I have been working on for ten years. Usually I get distracted by a project I hadn't realized I now have all the parts for, and start back in on that and do cleaning next year.

    This year I tossed (to electronics recyclling) all old PC's Pentium and lower, all tube monitors, VGA, EGA, CGA, and monochorme video cards, all modems 38400 baud and lower.

    Also did in the scraps and spares of wood and metal parts if I could not figure out either where they care from or where they were supposed to go.

    My shop space almost doubled. OF course, all the junk that the recyclers wouldn't take is in the garage now, and I'm getting motivated to get a dumpster bag.

    But a little bit each weekend got me this far in only 6 weeks.
  • potatoheadpotatohead Posts: 10,261
    edited 2015-05-20 00:28
    I'm with Gordon and Heater. Find a home for it. Somebody, somewhere usually wants it and could use it.
  • wmosscropwmosscrop Posts: 409
    edited 2015-05-20 06:29
    I wonder if any recycle sites accept them...

    Ron,

    I've been able to dispose of my electrical junk (old motors, transformers, etc.) by taking them to a local metal recycler. I usually get just enough to cover the gas for the trip out to the boonies and back, but I feel better knowing that the copper, etc. will be recycled.

    Side note: I hate to throw anything away. I'll strip hardware (screws, nuts, etc.), switches, whatever if I think it'll be useful from broken appliances. My definition of useful may not agree with anyone else's, but it's my mess, I mean garage!

    Walter
  • ajwardajward Posts: 1,130
    edited 2015-05-20 06:58
    Sadly, I'm pretty much a technology pack-rat. I tend to keep objects till I can no longer remember what the heck they are. :-|

    @
  • PublisonPublison Posts: 12,366
    edited 2015-05-20 07:02
    Anyone need a 8" floppy drive and Hercules board? There is not enough bandwidth to list the others. :)
  • GadgetmanGadgetman Posts: 2,436
    edited 2015-05-20 07:54
    Which interface on that drive?
    And weight?
    Any floppies to go with it?
  • PublisonPublison Posts: 12,366
    edited 2015-05-20 08:14
    Gadgetman wrote: »
    Which interface on that drive?
    And weight?
    Any floppies to go with it?

    That's my hoarding problem. I have it on my inventory list, but I don't know which of the 50 boxes it's in. :)

    I know it is a Shugart 1/2 height. I don't know if I still have the full heights. I have about a dozen floppies from when I worked at Gerber.
  • GadgetmanGadgetman Posts: 2,436
    edited 2015-05-20 12:10
    If it has a HP-IB port it might be fun to hook it up to my HP 9816 Workstation...
  • kwinnkwinn Posts: 8,697
    edited 2015-05-20 12:18
    I would be surprised if any 8", 5.25", or even 3.5" floppies would still be readable. Last time I had a PC with 3.5" drives most of the floppies I had accumulated could not be read. Those magnetic bits tend to fade with time. Same for R/W CD's and DVD's.
  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    edited 2015-05-20 12:37
    I bet an 8 inch floppy from the 70's is still readable. Those bits were really big.
  • WBA ConsultingWBA Consulting Posts: 2,934
    edited 2015-05-20 15:59
    Still use 3.5" floppies daily. One of our machines at work (CR Technology RTI 7500) runs Windows NT 4 and is not network or USB friendly, so we transfer centroid data to it with floppy disks. Luckily, I gave my Engineer that manages the machine programs my External USB Floppy Drive from my old NEC Versa SX laptop (circa 1998) so he can copy files off his laptop. The machine still runs better than currently available low end AOIs.

    As others have stated, I rarely throw anything away into the garbage can. When I say "toss it", I mean it goes to recycling or donation pile for a nearby 2 year college where I reside on the Electronics Department Advisory committee.
  • xanaduxanadu Posts: 3,347
    edited 2015-05-20 16:21
    External USB floppy drives are key. Back in the day when computers had them built in the fans would suck dust through them and destroy them. I didn't realize floppies were reliable until I was forced into switching to an external drive. From there forward, about 8 years, I've used the same box of 10 floppies without any problems, so long as I used the USB drive.

    I work on quite a few machines with floppy only, no network, usb or optical drives. One of them runs a mill that shapes orthopedics. The podiatrist has a quote for an upgrade and it's $15,000. Floppies away! For those I have a few ATX style drives, but I don't leave them on site.
  • GadgetmanGadgetman Posts: 2,436
    edited 2015-05-20 22:14
    I picked up a '3.5" driver' on eBay a while ago...
    There's the ordinary floppy-connector on the back, but in front, instead of a slot for a 3.5" diskette, there's an USB-connector.
    To the host computer, it looks like an ordinary 3.5" floppy drive.

    The only 'problem' is that the USB-drive needs to be prepared with special SW.
    (It divides it into 1.44MB images)
    There's a small LCD and a pair of buttons on the front of the drive so that you can switch between the images easily.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-5-144MB-Upgrade-Floppy-Drive-to-USB-Flash-Disk-Drive-Emulator-CD-Screws-SU-/201190315032?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ed7e09418
  • TorTor Posts: 2,010
    edited 2015-05-21 04:20
    kwinn wrote: »
    I would be surprised if any 8", 5.25", or even 3.5" floppies would still be readable. Last time I had a PC with 3.5" drives most of the floppies I had accumulated could not be read. Those magnetic bits tend to fade with time. Same for R/W CD's and DVD's.
    8" and 5.25" shouldn't give you any problems, not even the highest densities. 3.5" 1.44MB on the other hand - you may as well toss them right away. I've recovered all my 5 1/4" floppies of various types, for PC and minicomputer, going all the way back to when the first 5 1/4" floppies were introduced (well, there were two that were unreadable, having been de-gaussed at some point). 8" are fine too, according to other folks doing recovery over on vintagecomputer.com. My own 3.5" backup floppies, stored the same way as the 5 1/4" ones, are *all* unreadable. In every drive I have (I have many). This matches what many other people report as well.

    I don't have any R/W CDs (that's rewritable, right?), but I have had 1 year old backup CDs fail. Factory written CDs are different, they're mechanically pressed and last a long time.

    -Tor
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