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PC fan dies when blowing 80°C air - any ideas / remedies?

MJBMJB Posts: 1,235
edited 2015-03-28 15:02 in General Discussion
Hi All,
for my new Propeller controlled solar air heaters (3*1 m black sheet metal insulated at back side, with 3 cm air gap covered with polycarbonate transparent doulbe layer sheets) I am using cheap China PC-fans (12V, PWM-able) as the blowers. Blowers sit at the top / hot side and blow the air into the room. At the bottom is a long slit (with moscito-net) where the air enters (so not good for blowing in the cold air).

After running for about a week two of them just stopped working.
I had max air temperatures of 80°C coming in for about an hour at noon, other times below usually 40-50°C (at 10°C outside temp at less than full sun).
The system is equipped with a load of DS18B20 1-wire temp sensors, H-bridges for the motorized air-flaps (running at 3V, about $2.5 from China/EBay) and drivers for the PC-fans.
Tachyon is the controller with Internet connection in preparation ...

Could the Hall-Sensors or the permanent magnets have problems at this temperatures?

When I connect the problem fans to 12V directly there is sometimes a little forward/backward movement, but not sufficient to start off.
Even at nominal currents of around 300mA.

Anybody tried something like this?
Any positive or negative experiences in running PC-fans at such high temperatures?
Those would be just ideal, size and cost wise.

thanks,
Markus

Comments

  • LoopyBytelooseLoopyByteloose Posts: 12,537
    edited 2015-03-28 08:51
    Well, 80 degrees C is way over the self-destruct of a PC motherboard isn't it? A CPU might run at 60 degrees, and a mother board less than 40 degrees. So it does seem you are working beyond design goals. There are CPUs rated as high as 90 degrees max, but I am not sure that is wise or useful

    Many of these have a magnetic bearing. Could that demagnetize with excess heat?

    Looking as specs for some of the branded fans seems to have nothing about maximum temperature, except Sanyo Denki at 85 degrees tops.

    http://www.sanyodenki.com/news/newslist/20141113_SanAce40-120_9gt.html
  • CuriousOneCuriousOne Posts: 931
    edited 2015-03-28 09:07
    Get automotive air conditioner fan. They are much more rugged and capable.
  • RickBRickB Posts: 395
    edited 2015-03-28 11:50
    Put the fans on the intake or get better fans.
  • kwinnkwinn Posts: 8,697
    edited 2015-03-28 15:02
    As RickB posted, put them on the intake side. Mechanical and electrical parts don't last long at those temperatures, and even lubricants will deteriorate rapidly.
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