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Something is WRONG with SimpleIDE

idbruceidbruce Posts: 6,197
edited 2015-02-14 16:47 in Propeller 1
After my updates were hanging, I decided to uninstall SimpleIDE and try a fresh install. After doing the uninstall, I opened Windows exploxer, only to find that the SimpleIDE folder still existed and so I attempted to send it to the recycle bin. The attempt to delete failed because the name was too long and so I began to investigate. No matter what I try, all attempts fail.

EDIT: It is probably a good thing I was at my computer and terminated the SimpleIDE process, otherwise... who knows how large that directory tree may have grown :)

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Comments

  • ValeTValeT Posts: 308
    edited 2015-02-14 10:23
    idbruce wrote: »
    After my updates were hanging, I decided to uninstall SimpleIDE and try a fresh install. After doing the uninstall, I opened Windows exploxer, only to find that the SimpleIDE folder still existed and so I attempted to send it to the recycle bin. The attempt to delete failed because the name was too long and so I began to investigate. No matter what I try, all attempts fail.

    EDIT: It is probably a good thing I was at my computer and terminated the SimpleIDE process, otherwise... who knows how large that directory tree may have grown :)

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    Holy cow!

    That is weird. I am having no problems with my numerous installs of SimpleIDE. What version are/were you running?

    If you install a fresh copy of SimpleIDE, can it remove the directories automatically? I would try that first......

    Good luck,
    ValeT
  • Beau SchwabeBeau Schwabe Posts: 6,566
    edited 2015-02-14 10:27
    Honestly that looks like a Virus .... The tactic is to create a never ending chain of recursive directories eventually disabling the FAT (File Allocation Table)
  • ValeTValeT Posts: 308
    edited 2015-02-14 10:31
    Honestly that looks like a Virus .... The tactic is to create a never ending chain of recursive directories eventually disabling the FAT (File Allocation Table)

    That sounds more likely compared to an issue with SimpleIDE. Do you have any idea how to fix this ( I would like to know too just in case I get infected :) )? Is there any way to manually force the computer to remove the directories ( such as can you rewrite the memory sectors the files are located in )?

    Thanks,
    ValeT
  • Beau SchwabeBeau Schwabe Posts: 6,566
    edited 2015-02-14 10:42
    "Do you have any idea how to fix this" - No idea other than a re-format and everybody loves doing that. The last time I saw something like that with the re-cursive directories was in the mid-90's and maybe once or twice there after....... I think what I was able to do was to rename the "Parent" directory as something else, but I could not delete it... but to rename it I used a HEX editor to directly manipulate the FAT name. That was only after I ran whatever available virus scan I could find at the time. It remained that way until I decided to re-format and start fresh with a clean system.
  • ValeTValeT Posts: 308
    edited 2015-02-14 10:45
    "Do you have any idea how to fix this" - No idea other than a re-format and everybody loves doing that. The last time I saw something like that with the re-cursive directories was in the mid-90's and maybe once or twice there after....... I think what I was able to do was to rename the "Parent" directory as something else, but I could not delete it... but to rename it I used a HEX editor to directly manipulate the FAT name. That was only after I ran whatever available virus scan I could find at the time. It remained that way until I decided to re-format and start fresh with a clean system.

    Uh, that doesn't sound good.

    When in doubt, you just got to reinstall :) ...........
  • ElectrodudeElectrodude Posts: 1,658
    edited 2015-02-14 11:13
    If it's actually a corrupt filesystem, shouldn't a file system check find it?

    NTFS does allow things like that - I think they're called junctions. They're similar to soft and hard links on Unix.
  • dnalordnalor Posts: 222
    edited 2015-02-14 11:17
    Which windows you have? Windows 7?
    Try to start windows-explorer as administrator (right-click, select run as administrator or something like that).
    Delete the flag "read only" in the attritbutes (see your second picture). Then try to delete.
    If that not helps, I don't know.
  • idbruceidbruce Posts: 6,197
    edited 2015-02-14 11:54
    I finally got the directories deleted after a little luck with some rename and move......

    I believe the version was 1.0.2

    Having worked with Windows pretty extensively in the past, I do not believe it is a virus. I believe the problem began to occur, when I decided not to accept the default workspace in My Documents, during the install, and I provided another path to my Desktop. From that point forward, I believe the update software became corrupt.

    EDIT: OS = WINXP SP3
  • idbruceidbruce Posts: 6,197
    edited 2015-02-14 16:28
    Jazzed
    Did you ever install a version of SimpleIDE before?

    Yes, I did have an earlier version installed at one time, which I uninstalled, however at that point, I never did check whether the the uninstall had completely removed all items from Explorer.
    What exactly did you do before you noticed this?

    I did a CTRL + ALT + DEL during an upgrade, due to what seemed to be an endless loop. And I should say, that I did this on more than one occassion.
    Was it simply by installing the workspace to a folder other than "Documents" ?

    I believe this was the culprit. If I had to guess, I would guess that there is a conditon of whether that My Document path exists, if not, then create directories, and perhaps in combination with, if no success then try again.

    I have not checked the registry, but are you saving the path of that dialog to the registry and basing update locations off that path?
  • idbruceidbruce Posts: 6,197
    edited 2015-02-14 16:47
    Jazzed

    Additionally, although I am not 100% certain, I believe this is the path that I used during the that install:
    C:\Documents and Settings\Bruce\Desktop\SimpleIDE\

    On the following install, I accepted the default :)
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