silicon fab location?
m00tykins
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Hey there guys, been a while
I was wondering what fab parallax will be using for making the p2? Will it be possible to order custom chip packages? I'd very much like to see a windowed design (like those old eproms), though I'm sure it's a long shot. Ty!
Btw I'm typing this from my phone, hope the font isn't insanely large XD
I was wondering what fab parallax will be using for making the p2? Will it be possible to order custom chip packages? I'd very much like to see a windowed design (like those old eproms), though I'm sure it's a long shot. Ty!
Btw I'm typing this from my phone, hope the font isn't insanely large XD
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Interestingly, packaging may be done elsewhere.
Adding a window to a chip like the Prop would make it ten or a hundred times more expensive.
As the demand for such a thing would be very small that makes them custom made. That makes it tens of thousands of times more expensive.
Or...
Invest in some hardware to mill/grind the tops off of chips and otherwise gain access to the die. Then stick a window on it
Plenty of vids on YouTube as to how to do this.
Heheh, I know they had a window for erasing which would be useless on a propeller, but I guess this was more of a "it would look really cool if..." suggestion. I wasn't sure how much more expensive it would be, though... oh well.
It would look really cool.
For geek creds grinding the top off of a chip is something you or someone else should do.
But, the chip has to still be functional whilst visible.
We had a look around at whatever traces we could see, very beautiful.
Then his girlfriend takes a look and starts saying "Copyright Intel Corporation 1974" or whatever.
We were stunned that we could see that on the die.
But, the most exciting part about an EPROM with a window is when you put it in it's socket the wrong way around.
The whole die lights up red and then white, shinning a message through the window "I'm about to die".
Then it's dead.
http://forums.parallax.com/showthread.php/134596-Lobotomized-Prop?p=1037873&viewfull=1#post1037873
though no geek cred since I doubt it still works
Its a beautiful looking die though
This is one of my favorites
http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/creatures/pages/russians.html
Sandy
Edit: Just tested the De-capped P1 and it still works (07-19-2015) ... at least the IDE can identify it, I haven't run any actual code on it other than when I first started at Parallax I used it all the time without any issues.
Easy enough to use a un-formed J-Lead PLCC package !!
I've seen those in the wild only on marketing brochures, where the Graphic designer thought 4 sided pins looked 'sexier' than two ?
DIPs are dinosaurs, but a DIP module is quite realistic.Perhaps a BGA P2 would make that smaller/easier.
IT'S... BAYOOTIFUL... ;-;
Parallax could probably sell a dozen or 3 P2 bare at slightly above P2 price to Forumistas.
Maybe the package guys are cheaper and could run a few sans caps.
I got to see one of those and that spooky machine Chip used to fix the first P1.