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  • ercoerco Posts: 20,256
    edited 2014-09-28 21:14
    Win9 will be a free upgrade for Windoze 8 users: http://news.yahoo.com/confirmed-windows-9-free-upgrade-windows-8-users-133033409.html

    Is that a new record for the shortest life of an OS (Win8)? Seems like I just installed it last year. But it was October 2012 actually, 2 years ago.
  • RDL2004RDL2004 Posts: 2,554
    edited 2014-09-28 23:48
    I always kind of thought of Windows 7 as not much more than a massive patch Service Pack for Vista. I wonder if Windows 9 will be much more than that for Windows 8. The change in the name may just a Microsoft diversionary tactic. Since both Vista and Windows 8 were so poorly received, it's better for Microsoft if they are forgotten as soon as possible.
  • JordanCClarkJordanCClark Posts: 198
    edited 2014-09-29 10:42
    erco wrote: »
    Win9 will be a free upgrade for Windoze 8 users: http://news.yahoo.com/confirmed-windows-9-free-upgrade-windows-8-users-133033409.html

    Is that a new record for the shortest life of an OS (Win8)? Seems like I just installed it last year. But it was October 2012 actually, 2 years ago.
    I'm thinking WinME was even shorter.

    If it's true that it'll be a free upgrade, I wonder if doing a fresh install would involve installing 8 and 8.1 first. I did a fresh install on my Win8 machine-- no issues, more out of curiosity. My key wouldn't let my directly do an 8.1 install. I had to do an 8 install first. Which made the whole process twice as long as what it really needed to be. <sigh>
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,256
    edited 2014-09-29 13:29
    I just hope that they don't arbitrarily stop support for some older peripherals. Every other OS I need to get a new scanner, printer, USB/serial adapter or something else.
  • xanaduxanadu Posts: 3,347
    edited 2014-09-29 13:41
    erco wrote: »
    I just hope that they don't arbitrarily stop support for some older peripherals. Every other OS I need to get a new scanner, printer, USB/serial adapter or something else.

    The wifi sound thing is annoying if you ask me. Windows 9 doesn't support analog audio even in the form of an adapter. You have to use wifi enabled speakers, headsets and microphones.

    http://www.fakelink.c0m/windows9rumors/omg-wifi-sound-only-class-action-lawsuit.html
  • ercoerco Posts: 20,256
    edited 2014-09-29 14:33
    So I can't use my favorite ISA Sound Blaster card?
  • GordonMcCombGordonMcComb Posts: 3,366
    edited 2014-09-29 15:03
    erco wrote: »
    So I can't use my favorite ISA Sound Blaster card?

    Depending on the vintage some of these are cherished among certain users because of the use of an early FM synthesizer chip on them. If you can find a soldered-in DIP chip with the name Yamaha on it, and a YM3812 model number, it's a real oldie and somewhat collectible. Same chip was used in the AdLib, which was a very early MIDI sound card for the PC. Some folks get these cards, unsolder this chip, and use them either to repair an old MIDI instrument, or for building 8-bit style game synthesizers.
  • GenetixGenetix Posts: 1,754
    edited 2014-09-29 15:04
    erco wrote: »
    I just hope that they don't arbitrarily stop support for some older peripherals. Every other OS I need to get a new scanner, printer, USB/serial adapter or something else.

    Erco, you understand that windows support of peripherals is not free so of course older devices will be dropped or the default drivers will be severely crippled. Microsoft owes computer makers for the Windows 8 fiasco so of course they will make it so you have to finally junk that old XP machine.
  • potatoheadpotatohead Posts: 10,261
    edited 2014-09-29 15:25
    Windows 9 doesn't support analog audio even in the form of an adapter.

    There is no need for this.
  • RDL2004RDL2004 Posts: 2,554
    edited 2014-09-29 16:21
    There's audio that isn't analog? Please explain. My ears want to know.
  • xanaduxanadu Posts: 3,347
    edited 2014-09-29 17:01
    RDL2004 wrote: »
    There's audio that isn't analog? Please explain. My ears want to know.

    They use Monster Cables between the speaker and the amplifier.
  • xanaduxanadu Posts: 3,347
    edited 2014-09-29 17:03
    erco wrote: »
    So I can't use my favorite ISA Sound Blaster card?

    It's not wifi so no. You could get the ISA to wifi Home Bridge. Dock up to 32 ISA cards using one adapter and support WPS.
  • potatoheadpotatohead Posts: 10,261
    edited 2014-09-29 17:55
    This is all about "the analog hole", keeping sound digital, and maybe encrypted (I've not looked) through to the amplifier in whatever speaker you've got, at which point it's analog again.

    Apple is pulling the analog audio output on it's recent devices, or was rumored to at one point recently.

    IMHO, it's kind of silly. There still is an analog signal, and it's still just an analog signal. And making all digital audio devices is nice for the hardware guys, who like to sell stuff, but not so nice for basically all the audio gear out there now.
  • TorTor Posts: 2,010
    edited 2014-09-29 22:30
    Well, some consider listening to encrypted audio very relaxing.. of course it's also known as "white noise".

    -Tor
    (if it's true that win9 only supports audio over wi-fi.. oh boy. It sounds like an April 1 joke to me.)
  • localrogerlocalroger Posts: 3,451
    edited 2014-09-30 09:44
    If they really try encrypting the audio all the way to the speaker, the time delay between the OS coming out and the Hackaday article detailing a speaker teardown to get at the audio will be measurable in milliseconds.
  • GordonMcCombGordonMcComb Posts: 3,366
    edited 2014-09-30 10:31
    Why encrypt the audio? The files on iTunes (and many other sources now) have no DRM. So I seriously doubt the DDD to output is for encryption purposes. That just isn't the way the market is going.

    Where does it definitively (i.e. from MS themselves) say Windows 9 won't support sound devices with analog output?
  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    edited 2014-09-30 10:33
    Tor.
    Well, some consider listening to encrypted audio very relaxing.. of course it's also known as "white noise".
    Excellent.

    Sounds like the encrypted music would be much better than the real thing now a days.

    As my friend says "Music...mostly annoying".

    We should have the encrypted music in shopping malls, stores, taxis, railway trains and other public places.

    Did you know that around here taxi drivers have to pay copyright royalties if they have a radio in their cab. Which basically means I have to pay more for my taxi fare for the torture of listening to some garbage that I did not order! Now I would gladly pay to have it stop. Or just turn off the encryption.

    By the way this is White Noise, the band that featured Delia Derbyshire, the girl who made the original Dr Who theme music.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rF9kHw2N8Q4
  • GordonMcCombGordonMcComb Posts: 3,366
    edited 2014-09-30 11:54
    To be concise, Derbyshire arranged and produced Ron Grainer's theme of Doctor Who for electronic instrumentation, using an incredibly time-consuming engineering process. Though Grainer himself is jokingly said to not have recognized his tune when he heard her rendition of it. (Not that he minded, the story goes; he even tried to get her co-composer credit for her contribution.)

    She was 25 when she did the Doctor Who recordings, so not really a "girl." Ahem.
  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    edited 2014-09-30 12:05
    Delia Derbyshire:

    attachment.php?attachmentid=111230&d=1412103872

    Yep, looks like a girl to me.

    One of my heros since I watched the first episode of Dr Who in 1963. (Not that I knew who it was who that made that sound at the time)

    A pioneer in the field of electronic music.
    600 x 338 - 193K
  • LeonLeon Posts: 7,620
    edited 2014-09-30 12:05
    The next version will be Windows 10:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-29431412
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