Shop OBEX P1 Docs P2 Docs Learn Events
Xilinx based props??? — Parallax Forums

Xilinx based props???

roglohrogloh Posts: 5,796
edited 2014-08-08 13:41 in Propeller 1
For those into Xilinx based FPGAs, this might make an interesting platform for a propeller. I wonder if it would fit the LX25.

http://www.xess.com/shop/product/xula2-lx25/

Has anyone used one of these boards before? They look interesting if a little minimalist.

Roger.

XuLA2-0x300.png
301 x 300 - 126K

Comments

  • Cluso99Cluso99 Posts: 18,069
    edited 2014-08-08 01:31
    I was wondering the same thing...

    I think there may be the same problem of less efficiency with the LUTs in the Spartan-6 which I understand are similar to the Cyclone V.
    Similar LUT sizes, similar Distributed RAM (hub?). Not sure how to compare 52*18Kb blocks with 196*M10K blocks (cog?) but think Cyclone has 2x but we don't need it.

    I have a Spartan 3A board. IIRC it has 200,000 somethings.

    Might be worthwhile trying a compilation for the LX25.

    Has anyone looked at the resource usage on the DE0? Just checked Chip's post - Cyclone V uses 33% more LUTs than IV (DE0)
  • AntoineDoinelAntoineDoinel Posts: 312
    edited 2014-08-08 08:46
    Cluso99 wrote: »
    I was wondering the same thing...

    I think there may be the same problem of less efficiency with the LUTs in the Spartan-6 which I understand are similar to the Cyclone V.
    Similar LUT sizes, similar Distributed RAM (hub?). Not sure how to compare 52*18Kb blocks with 196*M10K blocks (cog?) but think Cyclone has 2x but we don't need it.

    I have a Spartan 3A board. IIRC it has 200,000 somethings.

    Might be worthwhile trying a compilation for the LX25.

    Has anyone looked at the resource usage on the DE0? Just checked Chip's post - Cyclone V uses 33% more LUTs than IV (DE0)

    Lately there is a flood of LX9 based boards, expecially in kickstarter projects (LogiPi/LogiBone, Papilio DUO, miniSpartan+, etc)
    I think the LX9 is approximately equivalent to a Spartan 3A/3E 500, (which had 500,000 "somethings" :-)
    The LX25 would be approx 3x the LX9.

    Also I believe it is much faster, even in the lowest speed grade, as many of these boards are coming with HDMI directly connected to FPGA pins.
  • overclockedoverclocked Posts: 80
    edited 2014-08-08 11:23
    I give it a try to synth it for my xilinx cards. Though these are older Spartan3 and Spartan3E
  • LeonLeon Posts: 7,620
    edited 2014-08-08 12:28
    I've got one of the Digilent Spartan 3 boards, but a better board would be the Adapteva Parallella Embedded board which I bought recently which has a Xilinx Zynq Z-7020 SOC (Artix FPGA with a dual-core ARM A9):

    http://www.xilinx.com/products/silicon-devices/soc/zynq-7000/silicon-devices/index.htm
  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    edited 2014-08-08 12:48
    Is there enough room on a Adapteva Zynq to put the Propeller? That boards runs hot.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 7,620
    edited 2014-08-08 12:52
    85K logic cells, it should be enough. The current boards have a much larger heat sink and don't need a fan.
  • Heater.Heater. Posts: 21,230
    edited 2014-08-08 12:58
    Leon,

    Interesting. If one can create an interface from the propeller HDL on the FPGA side to the Zynq ARM core that looks like a serial port and can by used by SimpleIDE. And create the interface to the IO pins on the other side the we have a great ARM + Propeller I/O processor combo in one chip.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 7,620
    edited 2014-08-08 13:12
    There are Cyclone V SoCs with ARMs, as well. They should be cheaper. The Zynq chips have other stuff that might be useful, though.
  • overclockedoverclocked Posts: 80
    edited 2014-08-08 13:41
    Talking COM-ports, isn't this the way to go with all Altera-based cards to get a common solution?

    http://idle-logic.com/2012/04/15/talking-to-the-de0-nano-using-the-virtual-jtag-interface/

    I have not tried it myself, just found it by searching. Seem to be a JTAG-based solution showing up like a COM-port! Any comments? This would suit my upcoming BEMicroSDK-port perfectly! I'm missing the COM-port, but have everything else.
Sign In or Register to comment.